why does no one talk about this game? it's a really good hunting game
>dat dismemberment
>dat weapon variety
>>343612770
shit graphics and gameplay
Never played it but the gameplay and visuals are shit.
>>343612770
no reason to play when mh exists
>>343612770
I haven't played this but the sequel looks really good so I might pick this up before the sequel comes out
>>343612770
It's not hardcore enough to siphon away MH players, and it's not easy enough to draw in non-MH players.
Plus the weeb theme turns off many potential players I'm sure.
Still my favorite hunting game though.
>pic related
>>343613198
It -looks- good but they play like garbage and when you get in-game you realize the graphics actuall are terrible.
They're really poorly made games, likeMonster Hunter.
>>343612770
isnt it like 80 dollars? whos gonna spend that much on a pc game?
>>343612770
>dat ass
>literally no marketing
>forgettable nipnong name
Huh, I wonder why no one has heard of it.
>>343613873
oh baby
>>343612770
>why does no one talk about this game? it's a really good hunting game
It was talked about a lot when it came out. People pretty much finished with the game already and are waiting for Toukiden 2.
>>343612770
30fps
>>343613814
it's 30 shekels on sale on steam right now and it's pretty cheap on vita and ps4
>>343614095
It was funny that KT released the PC port at full retail price when the Vita and PS4 versions had been given a few price cuts already and sealed physical copies were easily findable for a third of the price it was on Steam.
To add insult to injury, the PC version is missing a portion of the DLC, some of which the PS4 and Vita versions got for free in the week following launch.
Then they'll wonder why it took 6 months to even come close to 10,000 sales.
I thought it was waaaaaay to easy. I don't remember dying once in the 8 hours I spent playing the game. Does it get any better later on?
>>343614635
i feel that its a bit easy though that's probably because i usually have 3 party members with me
>>343614635
> I thought it was waaaaaay to easy.
The problem is that they made the AI way too good. If you played online with 4 human players, you'll see that actual human players fuck up way more and actually need to start getting gud.
> Does it get any better later on?
It does. Especially a few parts in the later chapters when you have to solo shit.If you still think it's too easy, try one of those solo trophies or achievements where you can't equip armor or mitama.
>>343614882
this,though it is nice to see that your party members can handle themselves and aren't just there to be punching bags for the enemies
>playing anything other than MH
enjoy your shit clones
I find it a great little game, but it needs the time and polish that MH has had since 1 to really come into it's own, so hopefully 2 will show off some growth.
I was pretty sad about the dismemberment in the end since the moment after you cut off a limb it just gets the ghost limb right then.
Granted, I wouldn't really know how to make a game where you have the Oni hoping along with one leg for a bit, but it would make the dismemberment feel better I think.
>>343615167
>He doesn't play all of them
>>343615167
I enjoyed SSD a hell of a lot more than I have MonHun for years tbqh
>>343615167
that shit hasn't been good since 3rd
>>343615226
it'd be too easy if you could just take off its legs and then you just sit there and whale on it until it dies
>>343615365
>implying 3rd was good
>implying 4U isn't the best game in the series
>>343615395
That's where I'm drawing the blank really.
I'd probably just be happy with the collision for the ghost limb not showing up the moment the thing is cut off though.
>>343614882
You should of played the original non Kiwami version. Computer AIs were dying left and right and you had to keep reviving them. In the Kiwami version, they got a lot smarter and would barely die.
>>343615309
I hated SSD desu fampai
>>343615619
you have shit taste.
Wasnt there like a shitload of threads about it during release?
Left of right?
AGI > Str > Luk > Def > Spd
>>343615679
*or
>>343615654
SSD is like the metal of hunting games, its fans are cancerous and the thing itself is fucking trashy.
>>343615679
Why does 2 look worse than Kiwami on Vita? I bet it runs at 20fps too, fucking Koei.
How's the PC version?
>KOEI TECMO
>>343615619
I hate you.Not really though, I'm sure you're alright deep down.
>>343615748
Because open world
>>343615748
>SSD is like the metal of hunting games, its fans are cancerous and the thing itself is fucking trashy.
You're a idiot who can't appreciate really good storytelling.
>>343615809
The open world meme claims another series.
>>343612770
Because Freedom Wars, God Eater and Soul Sacrifice Delta exist.
>>343615751
1:1 port of the PS4 version (So logic-based frame rate lock) with some stability glitches that were never fixed and missing DLC. Better off getting a cheap physical copy for the PS4 if you have the choice between the two versions.
>>343615894
It's not a meme it's an inevitability
>>343615883
Storytelling doesn't make a game, much less a fucking game in this genre.
And the translation really hurt the story.
>>343615941
Incredibly sad that this is true.
>>343615679
Right looks more or less like... psp version.
Pic related, it's vita version and psp version.
>>343615950
>Storytelling doesn't make a game
On a whole, no. But the storytelling can make you appreciate the entire game much more than it's gameplay if it's really good.
You just have really shit taste and probably skipped all the story/dialog. Or you most likely just a shitposter who never even played it.
Toukiden had two really big problems for me.
One being how often and how long the monsters would just stand there doing absolutely nothing. Just letting you hit them, being damage sponges. They rarely even have idle animations like taunts. Just staring at you and bursting back into movement with little warning.
This plays directly into the second flaw. Because they just sit around doing nothing, each successful strike completely lacks satisfaction. My gear meant far more to my kill times than any player skill.
It was a neat distraction but I had absolutely zero motivation to continue to play for the sake of the hunt after the story had ended and I had seen most of the monsters. My least favorite of the "hunting" games I've played.
>>343616238
>how long the monsters would just stand there doing absolutely nothing.
I don't even think people who make these arguments actually played the game. They're just.... shitposters.
>>343615895
Toukiden IS better than FW and SSD, though.
>>343616130
I tried taking the story seriously but I couldn't. A cursed arm, a cheesy chalice that takes away hefty punishment and gives an unsatisfacory reward, an edgy twist on classic fairy tales and characters that feel taken straight out of a 13 year old's head. Like, seriously? I could've at least suspended my disbelief if the wording wasn't so awkward thanks to the shit translation, but alas.
Eventually I ended skipping part of the story as I couldn't really give half a shit, but the gameplay was just as unsatisfactory, as well. And the enemy design, aesthetics aside.
I tried playing it for 10 hours and eventually dropped it, which was even less than what I played Freedom Wars for. I bought it like two weeks ago on sale and I really fucking regret the almost $8 I spent on it, since I really doubt I'll dedicate any more time on that piece of shit ever again.
I seriously hate this whole "SSD is good!" meme people keep pushing. Maybe I do have shit taste, but I mean, not even the lore descriptions or the little stories for the bosses contain any hints towards their elemental weaknesses or the like, how do you fuck THAT up in a game of that kind?
>>343612770
I can overlook shitty graphic and gameplay but not supporting kb/m properly is a deal breaker for me.
If you're porting to PC at least learn to make it feel right with PC apparel,fucking console cuck.
>>343616503
Do you seriously play action games with a kb/m?
Who does this to themselves? Most console controllers work on PC nowadays and all.
>>343612770
Shit port senpai
I have been ever so slightly interested in this if i ever decide to get it is it better on ps4 or vita?
>>343616375
Depends on the monster but honestly a lot of them have huge openings where they just literally stand there and take it. Those windcutters and shit like that might jump all over the place but some of the bigger things like Jollux and so on do an attack and then sit around recovering for forever.
Even at the highest level I've never felt safer in a hunting game.
>>343616375
I beat the whole story of Toukiden Kiwami. I don't mean standing there for 10+ seconds or anything, but just those 2-3 seconds at a time were incredibly noticeable and annoying to me and I'm not sure how you couldn't have noticed it.
>>343616572
I have no fucking problem playing action games like DMC and DQH on kb/m. It can work if you fucking make it to work. But as we know,retard apologist like you will keep giving them excuses not to do their job properly,so yes,fuck off.
Post webms niggers
>>343612770
Cause based TB confirmed the PC port is tripe.
Toukiden Kiwami (PSV) – 9/9/10/9 [37/40]
Soul Sacrifice Delta (PSV) – 10/9/9/9 [37/40]
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS) – 9/9/9/9 [36/40]
God Eater 2: Rage Burst (PSV) – 9/9/9/9 [36/40]
Phantasy Star Nova (PSV) – 9/9/9/9 [36/40]
Freedom Wars (PSV) – 8/9/9/9 [35/40]
I'm so sorry bros
>>343616795
>Playing DMC3 with a keyboard
I'm really sorry, Anon.
>>343616940
>>343616893
For what ? For you being born a dipshit retard ?
Also
>thinking the only DMC on PC is 3
>>343617076
>>343616940
>>343617003
Doesn't look too bad 2bh, will give it a try
>>343617076
Club and fists were the only satisfying weapons to play with.
>>343617076
>Club doesn't change at all
>Just gets new moves
Goooooooooooooooooooood.
>>343616375
>>343616940
Look at this. Look at how it just fucking sits there. Against a ranged attacker, too. I don't care that this is the weakest large monster, there are better ways to provide openings to the player than have the monster stick a thumb up its ass. It's not even trying, and this behavior was absolutely not limited to that monster in my playthrough.
>>343617141
>>343616940
>>343617003
>>343617076
>>343617141
This looks pretty fucking cool.
Why have I never heard about this game?
>>343617089
>thinking the only DMC on PC is 3
Holy mother of baseless assumptions and lack of arguments, Anon. Then again,
>Playing DMC3 or Chaos Legion with a keyboard
I feel really, really fucking sorry for you, Anon. Hope one day you'll stop being such an autistic dipshit and come to realize certain controllers work best for certain genres.
>>343617214
Which is more fun, bows or guns?
>>343617303
>>343617347
In Kiwami? Guns. Bows are too simple and lack power, as well. You can rape shit pretty hard with a gun.
>>343617375
>>343617003
>>343617076
>my favorite weapons are back
>they even have more moves than before
I guess it's time to invest on ps4
>>343617280
>Holy mother of baseless assumptions
Right back at you,sperglord.
>Playing DMC3 or Chaos Legion with a keyboard
>nowhere did I say DMC3 or CL
>even more assumption
Do you even read what you wrote ? You have dysfunctional brain or something ?
>>343617427
>>343617460
Even if I was clinically retarded at least I wouldn't be playing DMC with a fucking keyboard, that's just too much.
Poor mans Monster Hunter
>>343617508
Don't have spear yet.
>>343617571
So its Sword and shield, but also has a stance, but also has a duel wield mode.
Seems they are tackling the combination weapons now.
>>343617526
No of course not. You have proven to be capable of worse things,being incoherent when communicating,for an instance.
>>343617571
Thanks webm anon
>>343617735
At least I'm not uncapable of following common grammatical rules taught in preschool, like you.
Now stop shitposting, please.
I played a monster hunter game on my buddy's 3ds a while back, and really wanted to play a game like it but all I have is a PC.
I was thrilled when Kiwami came out because it looked just like a monster hunter clone. I plopped down 50 dollary doos for it right then and there.
I was sorely disappointed. I feel like it doesn't do nearly as much as Monster Hunter did, and the things it shares with Monster Hunter are executed poorly.
I just want a good Monster Hunter clone for PC ;_;
One last one. You can actually cripple monsters now.
>>343617836
In my heart of hearts I hope their next MH game announced this year is for vita or something so they could very easily take a page from Koeis book and do a cheap port for PS4 for minimal money.
They only want 2 million sales so we know its going to be an offshoot game.
>>343617836
>He doesn't just play MH on the PC
PPSSPP is black magic.Also there's Frontier and MHO, but that's far more work than I'd suggest getting into if you aren't rabid about the series.
>>343617836
Kiwami is more of a casual but fun MH clone that only shares breaking parts and the core concept of big monsters to fight, there's really no other comparison to be made. If you don't look at it as a replacement for MonHun, it's a pretty fun game.
Regardless, you're getting God Eater by the end of August, so rejoice.
>>343617869
You already could in the first one. Sure, their limbs would grow back, but they would stumble when charging/attacking.
>>343617943
I started playing this, then stopped because I don't want to burn out before MHG. Its nice to use a controller though, can't deny that.
>2 still not announced for localization
I don't really mind.
>MHG this month
>2 God Eater games next month
I swear Bamco Europe is insane.
>>343618041
No second game you can cripple them forever with the demon claw attack.
>>343618130
I know.
New gameplay changes in Toukiden 2. Doesn't cover everything, I know that there are random Mononofus killing demons on field you can join for example.
>>343612770
It just don't compete with MH or even GE.
Weapon don't have real feel of weight, mintama skill system are kinda shitty and lazily done, and game overall are too easy.
I can't recall much from play vanilla Toukiden other than spear being a proto-je suis monte
>>343616726
Show me your achievements or trophies for Kiwami.
>>343618838
Okay??
I'm not sure why you don't believe me and won't concede that the game has this flaw. It's evident even in the webms in this thread.
>>343612770
The PC port is shit, nobody owns a vita.
>>343616710
>but some of the bigger things like Jollux and so on do an attack and then sit around recovering for forever.
That only happen if you cut off his legs and he does a jumpping stomp attack. He falls over afterwards and take awhile to get back up. If he does that attack while still having both legs, he doesn't fall over. He gets right back into the action.
And like you said... not all monsters are slow like a Jollux.
>>343619062
Same shit happens with assholes like the King, there are a shitload of moments in this game where you have a good handful of seconds to whack on a monster while it just stands around.
I don't feel its as big of a deal as the other guy does, but its seriously the easiest MH clone around, and never once did I feel threatened by anything.
>>343619062
We're not talking about monsters being incapacitated or stunned or falling over or anything. We're talking about them standing there idle for a few seconds in between actions.
>>343618993
I think you're only remembering the slow monsters but forgetting there are lots of fast ones.
>>343619206
The fight where it bothered me by far the most was the Mynx. Probably because it looked like it should have been fast and constantly moving but it did the same thing.
>>343619169
> We're talking about them standing there idle for a few seconds in between actions.
Aren't all hunting games like this? including monster hunter. They made it like this to give yo a few seconds to attack it, otherwise it'd be impossible to solo if they never gave openings for you to attack.
>>343617203
Literally the worst thing they could've done on a MH clone, and they did it. Hell, popos make a better fight than this.
>Hellabunna is still apparently out of commission
Poor Toukiden.
>>343619446
No. MH may have moments where the monster is re-adjusting its position, or moments where it's taunting or tired, but it's always in an animation. It's always doing something. You hit it when it missed its attack and it's in the recovery end of its animation.
>>343619359
>The fight where it bothered me by far the most was the Mynx. Probably because it looked like it should have been fast and constantly moving but it did the same thing.
Didn't you have to solo one in the late chapters? I still found the Mynx hard to fight when you have to solo it. They barely give you time to attack it. Unless you were abusing the agility mitamas and just ran up to button mash everything, none of the monsters just stood too long after a attack.
>>343619718
>You hit it when it missed its attack and it's in the recovery end of its animation.
That's no fucking different from Toukiden.
>>343612770
Oh fuck I completely forgot about this game.
PS4, or Vita?
>>343620043
Why can't you see what I mean from those webms up there?
The attack animation is entirely over and it just sits there breathing and staring at the player. That's something entirely different. That's what I'm talking about. I don't understand why you don't understand why this bothers some players.
>>343612770
i wish ps4 had mh or at least soul sacrifice hd , played toukiden and i'm not feeling this game
>>343617076
that moveset reminds me of another game of a similiar genre
>>343617943
Is setting up multiplayer a possibility? With either Portible 3rd HD or MHFU.
>>343620509
Yes. With both games.
>>343620234
You mean the first boss of the entire game?
I hope you do know the early ones aren't as aggressive but ones in the later chapters are more aggressive. Also I bet they are using a non aggressive one just to show off the attacks of all the weapons.
Try soloing the high star ones online. They aren't as tame as these weapons demo videos.
>>343620603
That really is black magic. I'll have to look into some Monster Hunting goodness on PC. Thanks anon
>>343620656
Or you can play MHO
>>343620776
Not unless someone translated it. Rather not try to navigate Chinese. Shame, looks awesome. Is there controller support?
>>343620604
This was not limited to the first boss. I beat the whole game and this issue persisted the entire way. I was just pointing to those webms because they're a clear example right here in this thread. That .5% trophy from my screenshot up there is for soloing an Expert class with no Mitama, no companions, and no armor. I stand by my opinion.
I'm not going to discuss this issue any more because I'm not going to convince you and you're not going to convince me. If the monsters sticking their thumbs up their asses doesn't damper your enjoyment of the game then more power to you, man.
>>343620869
There was a fan patch but it doesn't work now.
>>343620776
If only Capcom would release this shit in the west. The team is no longer translating it so MHO is always going to be a mess for us in the western world.
Only hope we have is if MH5 gets a NX release or something.
>>343621050
I just want a mainline Monster Hunter not on a fucking handheld. Seriously holds back the visuals.
>>343621050
Tencent publishes MHO, doesn't belong to Capcom.
>>343621229
I don't think anyone would ever argue against a port of a MH game ala Toukiden. Shame Capcom is so fucking shortsighted to see that its a minimal investment scenario that fullfils the western market by itself.
If I could play MH4U or MHG on a console or PC even if it was only with updated resolution I would never touch a handheld version again. Hands are tied at this point, its the only reason I have a N3ds.
>>343621356
For now I'm just gonna stick with emulating the non-3ds games. the 3ds controls just feel too strange to me.
>>343621229
It's not just the visuals and resolution. The controls suck so fucking bad on the 3DS. The stupid pads dont work well at all with MH
>>343622451
The circle pad is a hell of a lot better than the PSP nub.
>>343616461
You didn't even explain what was actually wrong with most of those things, you just said they're bad without any examples or reasoning
However, I don't expect you to see much character development in 10 hours, But written by a 13 year old? I don't follow.
The stories generally highlight (Bolded text, even) the locational weakness of a monster. Again, I don't know what you disliked about them.
>>343616461
SSD was one of my GOTY contenders for the year it was that good.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the translation, it seemed top notch to me.
>>343622695
They fucked with all the names of the characters. The names were originally based in Arthurian legend; for example, Magusar is Merlin in Japan. Doesn't bother me that bad and SSD is my favorite Vita game but it's one great big Why when considering how everything else in the game kept its source material naming scheme.
>>343616940
the bow and rifle are fun as hell to use in these games and this comes from someone who only plays melee in most hunting games
>>343617203
yeah this is really the only bad thing about toukiden i wish the monster we a lot more aggressive
>>343612770
any vita bros who wanna play? i'm on chapter 2
psn is grinkdaboy
>>343612770
Should i buy Toukiden Kiwami or God Eater Burst?
>>343624365
god eater resurrection
There's actually people to play with online since it just came out. Toukiden Kiwami is kinda dead online nowadays.
30fps tied to gameclock, cant unlock
didnt even bother pirating
>>343624365
both
