Tell me, /v/
What went so wrong?
>Its another /v/ gets triggered by the term Toxic episode
Literally just a buzzword for players with shitty attitudes no one likes playing with
>>343607768
you browsing kotaku
>>343607768
Shit matchmaking
Cancer players
No actual incentive to do ranked
Why even do it?
>Play a game made for retards and children to win by pressing one key
>competitive is what ruins it
Bad players thinking they are good.
Nothing else.
>>343607768
this game is success and on par with ASSFAGGOT
>play game
>4 DPS shitters complaining that we have "too many tanks"
>tanks get gold, silver and bronze damage done
Every time, why can't people accept that 3 tanks is the best?
Blizzard really wasn't ready for competitive but since everyone wanted it they rushed it out. It was really bad at first but it should be fine by season 2. They really should've known people would want it from the beginning not sure why they thought they could add it later down the line.
>>343607768
Any left wing leaning group whether it's game journalism or redditors just can't into gaming competitively.
>>343608194
What's wrong with competitive right now?
So whats exactly wrong with the competitive?
1. the matchmaking is bad
when I solo queue I mostly get a balanced match win or lose
when I queue with a single friend at the same rating we get blasted by a 5 stack every single time
2. the new modes can take WAY too long
you can be stuck in a game for 40+ minutes thanks to how overtime works currently
they really needed to launch the overtime changes before they thought about putting this new best of 5 thing in
the other question is why did they even change it? the quick match method of determining the winners seemed fine
3. heroes are still crazy unbalanced
i'll let you decide which ones are op/up
>>343609164
There's nothing wrong with it. Shitters are being shitters and crying about everything as usual.
>>343609164
>get queued
>if someone leaves in the first 30 seconds of the match, it's invalidated
>someone leaves after that, typically ragequit after losing the first round
>you're given the option to quit after a minute 'without penalty' except it still counts as a loss
>that empty slot isn't refilled by a pug
>your situation snowballs from bad to worse as more people leave
>>343609164
Greentext because I'm lazy
>disconnecting only gives you 30 seconds to reconnect, even if you reconnect you still lose points regardless if you w/l
>coin flip sudden deaths
>solo queueing has a good chance of putting you in up against 4/5/6 stacks
>if your winning and the opposing team starts leaving your reward is penalized
>control point maps giving heavily reduced points on launch despite it being reported on ptr for a long time
>>343607768
Why is competitive toxic? Is it cuz people are expected to know how to play their characters?
>>343607768
Competative is shit.
Not cause it's toxic, that's to be expect, but because it's an awfully designed system,
Nothing is wrong
casual sjws cant handle the banter and salt
>Using the word "toxic" unironically
>>343607768
Nothing, ranked is the only time the game is fun. Casual Blizzard retards are going to bitch, though.
I notice LoL has a lot less of these faggots since OW launched, they were the chunk of the playerbase that jumped ship. Enjoy the liberal use of the word "toxic" and endless whining.
>>343609164
>KotH maps give/take maybe 1/10th of a rank despite possibly taking the longest
>They're best 3 out of 5 instead of 2 out of 3 which again, makes it take so fucking long
>Sudden death heavily favors defense as offense only has like 2 minutes to take the point
>>343607768
problematic/10
>>343609729
fuck your banter you whiny kids ruin everything
>>343609618
>pug
>>343609797
>I notice LoL has a lot less of these faggots since OW launched, they were the chunk of the playerbase that jumped ship. Enjoy the liberal use of the word "toxic" and endless whining.
it all makes sense now, did lyte get hired by blizz after he got shitcanned?
>>343609827
Kotaku's right in this case though
>be a shitter
>cry because you're shit
i got reported so many times that i was muted because i enjoy ridiculing people for being stupid
its not like i dont warn these people about what's going to happen, like a Phantom Assassin trying to outfarm heroes. when all the enemy carries have to do is buy an MKB and you're back to square one.
>>343607768
This is what happens when your game caters to casuals.
>>343609991
is this for real?
>>343609878
>some guy bitching in the chat
>i call him a faggot
>...
i dont see how its a problem its actually funny seeing all this salt going around.
>>343609946
No, they're not. Ubi and Bethesda are scum but at least they can see Gawker clickbait garbage for what it is.
>>343609946
>>343607958
It's just a PC version of cancer. There is no reason for the term to exist other than just being PC. Fuck it.
>>343607768
With how many Lolfags this game probably drew in, I'd be more surprised if it WASN'T toxic
>>343610116
Unfortunately yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ
The only appeal to this game are the characters.
>it's a blatant gamejournopros collusion episode
>competitive comes out
>people can't come to grips with the fact that they're just average
>the greatest ME OOGA, TEAM BOOGA-ING of our time begins
>>343607768
do people actually play overwatch
>>343609729
>>343609878
Never understood why people took stuff so personally online. It's from random strangers, you'll probably never interact with them again. They're not even in the same room with you.
>>343607768
man up, dont be a pussy you gay bitch
>kotaku
>enlarged numbers
for what purpose?
Stick to quick play?
>>343609618
>>if someone leaves in the first 30 seconds of the match, it's invalidated
>>you're given the option to quit after a minute 'without penalty' except it still counts as a loss
>>that empty slot isn't refilled by a pug
get rid of those and ranked will be fine.
>toxic
I wish everyone would work in some synonyms once in a while.
>>343610116
Look closely at the WebM. That's actually displaying a bug when the Mercy was getting moved by another hero but was still firing to her original LoS. Mostly irrelevant to normal gameplay since both people will be moving.
>>343607768
people think toxicity is a real thing
>>343610139
if it's a leak they should report on it
that's like the definition of actual gaming journalism, not social justice bullshit
>>343607768
>popular competitive multiplayer game has a toxic community
news at 11
>>343610309
someone leaving in the first 30 seconds of the match invalidating it is fine because it means the group isn't instantly shit on.
>>343607768
I've played competitive matchmaking about two hours a day since it has released and have only had one rager since then. People will call you 'toxic' nowadays if you don't say gg. Reddit is full of pussies, what do you expect.
>>343610206
>Placement scores me at 60
>Proceed to lose the next 8 or so games in a row
>Down to 55
Help, my team keeps trying to be solo heroes.
>>343608189
whats the game mode where you play 7v7?
>>343609643
>>disconnecting only gives you 30 seconds to reconnect, even if you reconnect you still lose points regardless if you w/l
Definitely not true.
I ragequit yesterday from a retard team and checked back 5 minutes later - the rejoin option was still up.
>coin flip sudden deaths
Yep.
>solo queueing has a good chance of putting you in up against 4/5/6 stacks
Nope. The system tries to put you into equal stacks and if all else fails, matches you with higher ranks to try and balance it out. It only becomes a problem at 65+ rank in my experience.
>if your winning and the opposing team starts leaving your reward is penalized
This definitely needs to be fixed. Not sure why *everyone* is penalized for one person leaving.
>control point maps giving heavily reduced points on launch despite it being reported on ptr for a long time
Already fixed for 3 days now bruh.
>>343607768
>Noobfeed editor
>doing anything competitive
I don't anything about this site,but thoughts dismissed right here.
>>343607768
>play nonranked
>teammates act like retarded children
>tell them to stop fucking around and choose better characters
>"lol chill out its not ranked"
I swear, ranked was a mistake.
>>343610372
Yeah but people just leave at 31 seconds.
So really just get rid of that completely and change it with a new system.
If someone leaves its a guaranteed loss and they can instantly join a new game.
Allow someone to "fill" the game you just left and if they do they will not suffer a loss if they do and if they win then its a win.
>>343607768
Nothing, the game is popular so the glorified bloggers are making inflammatory headlines they know dumb players of said game will click.
You didn't think they were serious or believe what they write did you?
>>343607768
The game was always bad but this is the excuse everybody needed to admit that the game is actually terrible.
OW wasn't a broken shitty mess flooded with shitty casuals and shitters, competitive just happened to ruin everything!
WITH A TASTE OF YOUR LIPS I'M ON A RIDE
>>343610309
Just carry them shitter
>>343607768
It's not been toxic at all imo. People have usually switched to support or tank if needed and the only insults I've seen are from salty opponents.
>>343610579
fuck off league nigger, this is why your game is dead.
>>343610175
Hanzo is a special case, everyone knows his arrows are bullshit, but they existed that way as a bad balancing method to make him playable. For a long time he was super shitty compared to Widowmaker so they let him keep his stupid hitboxes.
Also OW is less about hitscan aiming and more about using your skills correctly. If you want the former just play CS:GO.
>>343607768
>games the have competitive STILL don't know to fucking separate pug vs pug and Premade vs premade.
GOD
FUCKING
DAMNIT
What's the punishment for leaving a ranked match? I've lost like five games because of this faggot shit
>>343610393
what do they mean as in toxic? like griefers and hackers? Cause when someone says toxic , that's what it usually means not some guy telling the team that they suck and talking shit unless the guy does for entire game
>>343610175
Can anyone tell me why hanzo is acting as if he knows that there is one?
>>343610715
If someone leaves then just leave also and start a new game, no point in wasting your time.
>>343610715
Blizzard publicly denounces you
>>343610715
Counts as a loss and you get an xp penalty. Losses usually cause you to lose about half a rank.
>make game with extremely casual mechanics that pulls largely from the king of casual games
>slap on competitive mode
>despite the game still being unbalanced
>make the matchmaking terrible as well
>>343609946
Kill yourself
Let me predict a bunch of posts in this thread. Really, because I can already tell what a bunch of them will say.
>I was playing perfectly and had a K:D of 20 to 0, but all of my teammates were drooling monkeys who all picked (hero i don't like) and stood around all game.
>I tried to tell them to switch very nicely and only swore five times, but they all grunted at me and stood in the corner! I got so mad I called them all faggots.
>This happened to me so often in my placement matches that now I'm ranked 40! Why is literally everyone except for me shit?????
here's a tip you whiny shits: learn to lose gracefully. if you never want to lose, either get a team together that you know is good, or git gud so you can carry the whole team by yourself
after all, if you're better than everyone else, you can surely prove it, right
>>343610746
Probably was looking at Widowmaker's firing trails. It's not hard to figure out where she's shooting from.
>>343610864
No, it's more "We lost the first round and someone rage quit which solidified our loss even moreso as more people followed suit"
Sudden death is stupid. If we won the map in a certain amount of time, then the enemy in order to win has to do it faster than us.
We steamrolled a victory in Volksaya, capping the second point within two minutes, while the enemy pulled off a clutch victory in overtime. Sudden death came and we got fucked as attackers by the coin flip. How is that fair?
>>343610725
Toxic was popularized by LoL if I understand correctly. It basically refers to trolls, griefers, flamers, ragers, and ragequitters - basically the undesirable social aspect of any online community.
>>343610889
I mean the way he knows he can shoot her hitbox because she stays just there. He could have gone further to see her but he decided to stop exactly there.
>>343610959
Rank 58 here.
I have only seen 2 ragequitters in my entire time playingand I was one of them.
>>343610964
Defenders* sorry. It takes a stupid amount of time to get there compared to attack.
>>343611020
Toxic is also considered even in Dota to be someone who isn't playing the game right, as in say a noon not playing with the regular strategy or someone doing something different that isn't causing any harm.
>>343610964
it's funny because the game even accounts time taken in some way because it'll show the other team's time they finished the previous round.
>>343611040
Might have been waiting for her to stick her head out when taking a shot
>TEAM BASED GAME
>PEOPLE QUE UP SOLO
>WHAAAA WHY IS EVERONE ELSE SHIT EXPECT ME WHAAAAA
Literally Every Fucking Team Based Game in Competative You fucking Autists Cretins
Holy Fuck
>>343609164
Gameplay
>once mercy gets her alt she just hides in a corner until her whole team dies to get potg
>hanzo's lolhitboxes
>20 tick
>almost everyone on even pc is dead quiet in game
>solo queue is asking for a 50/50 win loss rate
Blizzard
>caters to the needs of the few instead of the many
>literally sucked a guy's dick and removed an important setting instead of changing it
>actual balancing updates have been extremely small
>>343610964
They already said sudden death and coin flips are getting removed after Season 1, which ends September 21. Everything will work off time banks now, even payloads, if one team wins in 6 minutes that's how long the other team has.
>mfw picking the retard "helpful by simply existing" heroes because I realise I'm not that good anyway
>>343611235
>capitalising every word
>calling others autists
>>343607768
Person who has actually played Overwatch here, just got placed, most of the games were pretty evenly matched, only 1 person out of 10 games was a shitbag. Ranked seems pretty alright imo.
>>343611459
which heroes would those be?
>>343611395
>once mercy gets her alt she just hides in a corner until her whole team dies to get potg
That's how the game is balanced right now and you disliking it is not a legitimate complaint. I could make the same case for Lucio requiring 0 skill to play yet being a near 100% pick hero.
>hanzo's lolhitboxes
He'll be useless without them.
>almost everyone on even pc is dead quiet in game
Not even a problem with the game.
>>343611040
He may have known it was possible, but the vast majority of Hanzo players just shoot arrows randomly around corners and score most of their kills that way. Since it's a projectile with a travel time someone can get hit peeking after you shoot.
>>343611538
Lucio, Mercy, Torbjorn
Full of casual shitters
>>343611538
Reinhardt and Lucio being the obvious two if I'm having a really bad night.
Junkrat if the situation calls for "annoying aimless grenade spam" and Mercy if I'm actually doing alright.
>>343611534
The big problem is with solo queue. You need to grind for an incredibly long time to get your correct rating in solo queue because of all the variables, you're just 1 person out of 12.
Meanwhile a 6 stack wins/loses every single match they should win/lose, there's no random chance in the formula.
I can't tolerate playing with pubs, I'd even rather play with my shitter friends because at least I can coordinate with them and know what they play.
>>343611557
>everyone being dead quiet isn't a problem with the game
To be fair, it is a problem with the game. Blizzard even during beta would ban or mute over damn near nothing, even saying someone was a bad player could get you fuck ed. It's a part of the culture the game itself has cultivated.
>>343611557
How is she balanced exactly? She can cast her ult instantly and it undos all progress made by your team. They hide in a corner because it's more valuable to do that than to actually be with your team and healing them.
>He'll be useless without them.
I would argue that it doesn't require skill but most of this game doesn't.
>not talking is not a problem with a game
>a game almost requiring communication with a small team is not a flaw
>>343611836
>To be fair, it is a problem with the game.
It definitely isn't. I've been in plenty of solo queue games where people talked and most of the other time it's because they didn't have a mic or weren't in the channel.
>Blizzard even during beta would ban or mute over damn near nothing
That only happens if you get mass reports... and if you get mass reports you're probably at fault.
>>343610454
You still won't get points for winning if you accidently dc and rejoin so it's shitty. Also maybe that's the case for the stacking at below 70, but I'm 71 and I've frequently been up against 4-6 stacks and it's just obnoxious sometimes.
>>343611890
>How is she balanced exactly?
How is she unbalanced.
>She can cast her ult instantly and it undos all progress made by your team
So kill her.
>They hide in a corner because it's more valuable to do that than to actually be with your team and healing them.
If she's in a corner then no one is defending her. Send a Genji to kill her.
>I would argue that it doesn't require skill
And yet he's still a shitty hero that is rarely picked in competitive.
>>343611984
>but I'm 71 and I've frequently been up against 4-6 stacks and it's just obnoxious sometimes.
You're in the top 400 players globally then so of course you're going to be seeing more stacks. In that competitive bracket you should be having your own team.
>>343612039
Not that guy but the only issue I have with Mercy is how quickly she can build her ult.
>>343611890
>Why is the dedicated healer character good at healing what the fuck is this nonsense blizzard
>>343611965
>>343612139
I don't really know anyone so I guess i'm fucked. Guess it's time to start adding peeps.
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20744874995?page=1
Jesus Christ have these people never played online before? I didn't think it was this big of a deal
>>343612039
>How is she unbalanced.
>quickly builds ult
>is most valuable sitting in a corner letting lucio fart people off a cliff while he heals people
>If you can't find her and the rest of the team cleans house with ults she can just zip into a dead teammate and instacast an aoe revive
>this is balanced somehow
>>343612269
>That entire thread
My god they'd have a fucking brain hemorrhage if they came here, and even 4chan's become more sanitised over the last few years.
>Points
>Rank
>Losing
Do you know who cares about such things when playing games?LowTierGod
If points, rank and winning are the only reasons why you play a game, you are casual scum.
I don't know much about overwatch, but I do know people played games to achieve mastery in them.
If the aforementioned 3 points are the only indicators of someone doing well in overwatch, it is pretty much a soulless joke of a casual shooter.
>>343612357
>quickly builds ult
Only if there's a damage sponge on her team.
>is most valuable sitting in a corner letting lucio fart people off a cliff while he heals people
I fail to see how this is unbalanced. If anything, it just speaks to how fragile she is.
>If you can't find her
Not exactly hard to find her. The problem you *should* be citing is how certain spawns make it so she can fly in after respawning.
>this is balanced somehow
How is it any more unbalanced than
>le aura man of dropping beats
?
Before you shitpost about Mercy, consider that Reinhardt, Lucio, and S76 are all picked nearly as much as her.
>>343609786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6alOnuN-wCY
would you not consider this to be toxic?
>>343612732
That was a better, simpler time.
>>343607958
Good thing there's a mute option huh :)
>>343612732
>all those 13 year olds
this takes me back
>>343609991
what the fuck, the shots didn't even hit the dude! they were like a foot away and killed him anyway, lolfuckingwhat
>Hey guys this game is gonna kill LoL
>Gets ranked which is the only thing that can actually make it beat LoL
>They fuck it up
Classic Blizzard
>>343613126
it was never going to beat lol when they decided to make it not f2p
>>343612269
>So grow up and know that if you're gonna troll or be an ass, be prepared to get dragged and roasted for all its worth :-) you're lucky there aren't real internet laws for slandering and hate speech. keyboard warriors are the least to understand how "things" really work ;-)
I can't tell if this is a new level of shitposting
>>343610167
Toxic exists to describe something poisonous, or bad.
Should we stop using words that have been part of our society for centuries just because of some rainbow colored hair faggots?
>>343612732
Fun times.
>>343607768
If competitive is toxic then just don't play competitive?
Nothing`s wrong. Expectations for OW ranked were really high for reasons I still don`t know, and now when it comes out people are shocked that it`s just like every other large ranked community.
Only things wrong right now are a) coinflips are fucking retarded, just use a stopwatch Blizzard you cunts and b) needs better protocols for a player leaving the game.
>>343611118
>a noon
At first I thought you meant a McCree
>>343607768
>Gaming "Journalists" shitting on Overwatch's Competitive mode because toxicity buzzword
>Literally played solo ranked for about 3 hours today and there was no signs of "toxic" behaviour
The ''toxicity'' arrived with League kids, Riot managed to fuck something up majorly so they change games.
Riot has been trying to control this buzzword ''toxicity'' which is everything not fun, hurtful and even not normal like playing hero X in the wrong lane. They've been throwing bans for swearing and even saying gg ez. Also, they've had psychological surveys for their players which don't even relate to the game.
Competitive has major flaws in OW, such as supports getting less MMR and when the opponents have leavers, the winners get almost no MMR, but that has nothing to do with talking shit in vidya.
Everyone who complains about ''toxicity'' needs to man up and realize your hanzo isn't a good pick for your team.
>>343611118
That's League. In Dota that's called being a dogshit retard, unless it's not in ranked. Then it's called new meta
Did no one expect this to happen?
Literally what
How could anyone not see this coming? I don't even play Overwatch and I knew competitive mode was going to cause mountains of asshurt. It's the MOBA doctrine.
>>343615058
I create a toxic environment. It works, my team actually does shit when told to
i hate it Overwatch fanbase, i was playing in the beta and i just said "easy match" after a obvious hard match both teams were pretty good, then suddenly everyone start to ask me to stop trolling and just say gg.
I really don't get it, i mean 90% of the fun is talking shit to the opposite team, if it is just playing without communication might as well play against bots
>>343611557
Mercy has one of the fastest charging ult and yet I keep getting ranked 50+ Mercy's who refuse to throw their ult down in the beginning/mid game. What the fuck.
>>343612269
>all those posts that are downvoted to hell
Hahaha holy shit
After seeing the thread I kinda want to play some Overwatch again just to say "lol ez" after every game
>>343612724
>>quickly builds ult
Only if there's a damage sponge on her team.
You do realize there will always be a sponge in the team right? Especially in comp.
>>343615371
Same
>>343615130
"Toxic" is a strange buzzword in general where it's sound like that negative behavior is an infection, but people use it as another word for dick or asshole.
Now tilted is what I don't get at all because that's mostly a chess term. I have no clue where it came from and I played LoL on and off since Season 2. It just feels weird to say compared to mad, upset, pissed, tight, angry and whatnot.
How long until Tribunals?
>>343615498
Tilted is used when you are playing worst and worst because you are angry, something like that.
>>343615359
>someone says "gg ez" after a match
>an enemy goes absolutely apeshit saying that the player should fuck off to a game with a community that tolerates this toxic behavior
I hadn't seen someone that assblasted in a while
>>343615359
I never got this whole "just say gg" shit. Saying gg after a bad game makes me saltier than if someone was intentionally causing asshurt. People don't just say gg after an actual good match, they actually fucking comment on it. Saying gg makes you look like a faggot who actually didn't mean gg.
>>343615615
I usually only say gg when both teams are good and there was a nice comeback. As much as I want to say "That game was alright" or "I had better games" that would just cause a riot in the room.
>>343615615
>>343615612
>>343615359
>play TF2
>say gg ez
>children get mad
>everyone talks shit
>I laugh
>everyone moves on
Where did we go so wrong?
>>343607768
>4 of the worst videogame sites, has a problem with it
Why am I not surprised. Get back to whatever shithole you came from.
>>343615058
I am "toxic" as fuck personally, any insta level 30 hanzo/mei locks on attack and I will bully them
>>343610339
You're totally right. And Bethesda and Ubisoft are also totally right to not work with kotaku, you can't expect no backlash just because muh journalism
>>343609085
Redditors make up the vast majority of assfaggots competitive though
>>343607768
Nothing for me, it's been great.
>>343615612
>>343615615
>>343615715
anyone else just instantly leave after you are defeated in a game, like before defeat even comes up on the screen, esc and leave game
>>343607768
It's all fun and games until you implement ranked.
>>343615715
Saying gg on the losing side, or on the winning side after a close comeback actually has meaning. Saying gg after a match with 2 hanzeros on attack that ended in 3 minutes makes you look like a smug, yet uncreative faggot. If you win by a landslide, shit talk.
>>343612724
You're just a mercy player who can't handle the fact that she's overpowered because you don't want her nerfed, the insta-res, huge mobility and super fast ult charge time is fucking ridiculous. Make her ult uninterruptible, make it take longer to res tanks, or make it charge longer because as it is, it really sucks getting a five man wipe but actually all you did was waste your ultimate's.
>>343607768
Casual game that tries to be non-casual.
>>343616074
Her pistol needs a nerf too
>be tracer
>focus in on healer several times up close
>whips out her pistol and fucks me
f-fucking 20 tick rate
>>343615746
Mei on attack is strong though. Because Mei is overpowered atm.
>>343612732
Hilarious
He never even said a word!
>>343611395
>almost everyone on pc is dead quiet
I never understood why this was an issue. The first thing I do in any game is mute any voice communication features. 8 times out of 10 its some stupid child squealing over the mic and I can't be arsed to deal with that, senpai
shitaku's isn't so bad, since overwatch in its current state has a too many bugs, and horrible balance choices so it's pretty anti-competitive at its core
unless it's also bitching about meanies on the internet in which case lelmao who cares
Blizzard exists
>>343616510
I've never heard a kid speak in this game, it's always an adult or so
And I've played for 120 hours
>>343609878
Says the whining kid.
>>343609786
>tfw Toxic Avenger isn't about an SJW fighting the patriarchy
>>343612269
>http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20744874995?page=1
have those people never played counterstrike before?
>>343610319
No it's not, Mercy's pistol hitbox is xboxhuge, same with D.Va's blaster and Hanzo's arrow, you can test that whenever you want in practice range.
>>343607768
>gets surprised when the leage of legends community migrates to overwatch
really?This is the new generation of players.Embrace it.
Quick Play is just as toxic and I'm completely mystified why games journos lied about it being some kind of happy fun safe space. I guess Blizzard forgot to mail the next batch of cheques out in time for the competitive launch.
TOXIC TOXIC TOXIC
I hate LoL for introducing this
>>343609946
Kotaku ain't shit and it doesn't even know what it did wrong. The games media has been cosied up to the industry so long they actually forgot this sort of casual corruption is a two way relationship.
You see the same sort of confusion in political journalism when a journalist accidentally does their job and suddenly the politicians don't want to play ball with someone who might ask hard questions.
>>343612269
>Freedom of speech doesn't apply to online services like those Blizzard maintains
>a universally recognised fundamental human right doesn't apply when it involves people being mean to me in a video game :(
Who would've thought this old childish argument would someday grow up to become a broader political movement?
tryhards being obnoxious and sucking the fun out of everything
nothing new
>>343621091
He's right though, that's not what freedom of speech means
>>343611118
confirmed redditor
>>343607768
>people can´t handle the bantz the post
>>343607768
>toxic nightmare
Why is Otaku still in existence, I thought Gawker going down would kill this shit.
>>343620209
This.I was playing LoL since S1 and when one of the conversations with Lyte had this magical word in it then everything went to shit.
Now most of the lolbab migrated to overwatch ruining yet another game.
>Toxic Nightmare
Sounds like a band whose members are all bugchasers.
Pretty much the only reason i play multiplayer games is to shit talk opposite team.
>>343621342
It's childish because it's an attempt to shut down the real issue of the discussion, that being people should try not being such crybaby wusses. It's not about "freedom of speech" it's a demand that everything be controlled and moderated to be acceptable to their sensibilities.
It's anal.
-MMR is based on damage you do so if you play a support you have SHIT MMR. This on it's own is full blown retarded and makes no sense at all
-If someone leaves at any point (yes even at the end) you get LESS rewarded. This makes sense if they leave at the beginning but no sense when they leave at 3 seconds left. And this works vice versa if someone on your team leaves and you win you still get dogshit.
-There is hardly any incentive to play it
The reason it's so "toxic" is not only because modern gamers are just like that, but because many of the people who play Overwatch are BLIZZARD fans. WoW contributed heavily to the cultivation of what people call "toxic" gamers today. They're the kind of infantile people who reject the possibility of loss, refuse responsibility and who impatiently demand instant gratification. A player-base of petulant, angry mewling babies.
>>343610529
This. It is amazing how fail to see that the problem is within the core gameplay itself and not some magic community composition that just happened randomly.
>>343615201
Even bizzare strategies can still function and even function well in dota. Honestly usually when someone tries to do something real fucked up I don't say anything because I never know what is going to happen.
I mean I did the radiance refresher build on spectre and my seer gave me shit about having no teamfight just before I got an ultra more or less on my own.
why would people even play "competitive" ranked games with 8 year old autists?
this is exactly why league is cancer
>Forcing competitiveness in a casual game
There is your problem
There really isn't anything wrong with competition in multiplayer games, but forcing ranking systems onto a playerbase turns what should be something fun into an epeen fagfest.
They should leave competitive systems to fan communities, rather then forcing the entire community under a single umbrella of rank, I mean MMR really doesn't mean shit either
>still no new maps
>still no new modes
>no new content of any worth since open beta way back in early may
People are still playing the same thing since launch?
DURR YOU ARENT USING THE META
omg report this noob it couldnt be me to blame for losing
fucking kids, go die, you are why we cant have nice things
I think Overwatch looks kinda plasticy. The art style just doesn't groove with me.
>knew immediately the game was complete dog shit the moment i touched the beta
>played 2 games
>all the immediate problems with garbage as fuck balancing were apparent
>havent touched the game since and know 100% my judgement was accurate
>all these plebs are only just now coming to the same realization i had, within 15 seconds of playing the game, because thats how out of touch and delusional they are towards online gaming
how fucking sad is it that , this is the state of competitive games right now? good games like rainbow 6 siege get overlooked, and casual little pissant games like this, that were obviously outsourced by activision, get praised to high heaven because of ass and tits and waifu bullshit
sad as fuck
>>343607768
The LoL generation
>mommy blizard this person says im terrible and retarded make them go away
>"No"
>what the fuck shit game toxic people im so nice why can't more people be like me and not care about competitive games???
These kind of people wont be happy until Blizzard lets them shit all over "competitive." They want competitive to be quick play, and they are used to being babied and getting their way because of LoL.
>Being an autistic retard with no social filters
>Calling people faggots and telling them to kill themselves outside of chinese image boards
>"BUH BUH ITS JUST BANTER!"
No it isn't, you toxic shits. Get rekd.
>>343618448
The bot hitboxes are even larger than player hitboxes.
Regardless, the game ain't a fucking team deathmatch and pixel perfect hitboxes don't help you stand on the capture point..
>>343624191
>Telling someone to git gud is the same as telling them to go kill themselves.
Are you the same people that say that talking to a woman without her wanting to is the same as rape?
>>343624068
>They want competitive to be quick play, and they are used to being babied and getting their way because of LoL.
Funny when Ranked in LoL is usually 40min long while in this shit like 20
>>343624191
kys cuck
I will always tell a garbage player they are garbage because I don't like to lose, and if I lose because of a garbage player I'm going to tell them to never play the fucking game again because I don't want to lose because of that garbage player again.
You think if you join a basketball game and shit it up you're gonna get to keep playing?
If your mommy (the dev) says "no he has to play" do you think the other players aren't going to trash talk you for being shit to try and get you to stop playing, and this make the game 100 times better?
Get over yourself. Grow up. You can mute people for being HUMAN BEINGS WITH EMOTIONS. But you have such a fragile ego you can't let anyone think you're bad, no you're great and they're """toxic"""
>>343611082
Good for you, I honestly think I've had disconnects in 75% of my ranked matches, on both sides. I won't call them ragequits because sometimes it's people on the winning team that disappears, which makes it even more frustrating for them when they lose. But given the system of penalizing the winners if the losing team has a leaver, which I can't even imagine what blizzard was trying to achieve by implementing, every time someone is disconnected everyone loses.
>>343623828
>game has been out a month
>STILL no new content
>>343624356
You telling me that people are getting banned for saying 'gitgud' and ':^)'?
Prove it.
>>343624570
Enjoy you're inevitable ban laddie. Gaming is a safe space.
>>343625070
Blizzard doesn't ban for trash talk cuck, or I'd have been banned from WoW or SC2 :^)
>play Overwatch in Europe
>No one says a thing
>Almost no one talks shit and if they do, other people will start calling him a faggot because he's obviously mad
>Only widely accepted reason to make fun of anyone is on a Toblerone or Bastion POTG
>join match
>block and mute everyone
>have fun
>>343624793
Last new things were from like March or Feb. Maybe even further back then that.
>people saying mercy is balanced
is there an easier way to spot shitters? her ult is easily the most broken thing in overwatch and thats really saying something
>>343625164
Then why are we getting people whining about getting banned/muted for 'muh free speech'?
>>343610167
Toxic is an adjective that describes something poisonous or harmful. Cancer is a noun for cells dividing uncontrollably and destroying body tissue.
Their term is being used 100% correctly while yours isn't.
Once again the ess jay dubya side of the coin proves it's smarter.
>>343625461
Only people that cheat get banned
Read the threads that are posted cuck?
>>343607768
I hope this kills the Overwatch.
>>343625205
>Play Torbjörn on Tibet
>Get POTG
>Quadkill with shotgun with minimal assistance from a level 1 turret
>"Wow, so impressive. Not. Fucking one trick Pony."
Why do people get so salty over Torbjörn even when you don't play him like someone who's jacking off with one hand?
>>343625265
The game has been out for a month. You have not been able to just buy it and play it for any longer than that.
Acting as if having a private, invite only beta is akin to already being released is pretty nutso, anon.
>>343625610
Why do you care so much over other people's approval?
I don't think there's much wrong with competitive. Competitive games in general are tense and high stress, so people take it much more seriously and try to dictate to or blame others if they fail.
The game is honestly a 6/10 at most and it was bound to draw in the MOBA shitter crowd anyway when they introduced Competitive play.
>>343607768
I just lost 3 30 minute games in a row. I know it's not that long, but I only get so much time to play and I'll never get a gold weapon at this rate. I wish at least wins gave more points if losses give nothing.
>Kotaku
But yeah, I do agree a decent amount of the players there are pretty bad.
I'm not a child so I can deal with it and have been called much worse but overall it's just not fun
We're not going to magically get better from having some 8 year old screaming about how he's carrying us and to kill ourselves
If I wanted to get called names and told to kill myself I would go to /v/ for that.
Why not subcategorise the competitive mode into Salty Spitoon and Weenie Hut Jr modes?
I don't really know why anyone wanted a competitive mode for this game anyway.
I guess on the bright side it gets all the retard tryhards out of normal.
>>343607768
It's quick play with actual punishment for losing. There's so many things (I hate to say it) about competitive that are "at odds" with the rest of the game.
Nobody communicates, nobody plays properly, everybody freaks the fuck out whenever you dare make a suggestion, nobody picks proper team comps.
The game is all about counters, but there are so many characters with no actual counter. Roadhog devastates your team with no actual way to be countered. Double Winston is broken and obnoxiously effective with little you can do about it.
Mercy's ult rewards the enemy team for playing badly. You wipe them, at the objective in an ult rush, the Mercy who was just hiding then flies out and instantly revives her entire team at full health causing you to lose.
The ranking system seems useless, people are brought up and down so far by their teammates that you're never actually playing with people on your skill level. It's a complete random amount of absolute shitters and people who are actually good. AKA quick play.
This dumb wannabe-stopwatch shit where you can stomp the enemy team on attack with 5 minutes remaining, but when sides switch they can take fucking forever and win in overtime but still tie the game.
If both teams play fast enough then you have to do another two fucking games on the same map with the remaining time you had on the last one.
Ties used to be decided with a single round on a koth map, which was fine. Now it's a coinflip for who attacks or defends on mini version of the map you just played, going to the first capture point. Which means attackers pretty much always win, because the meta changes and you can just tank rush to the point and cap easy. Most of the maps aren't designed to have difficult first caps. Now they're talking about removing tiebreakers and just having a draw, which is just a waste of time.
There is so much wrong.
>Popular game has lots of shitters.
WOOOOOOOOW
NO WAY I'VE COULD'VE KNOWN.
>>343626337
>Now it's a coin flip for who attacks or defends
This. I've went in to sudden death exactly 7 times so far in Overwatch competitive.
Each time the enemy team was able to attack and that lost me 7 games. Of course it's possible to win, but I'm put at an incredible disadvantage?
You know what the percentage of losing a coin toss 7 times in a row it?
%00.78125
Get rid of matchmaking and go back to old way.
Matchmaking is something you can't and never able to fix.
>all the League players flee to Overwatch
>surprised the casual game you play with randoms turns to shit the second winning actually matters
I like how people are pretending this is just now happening. I played the beta and I was already getting pissed.
>people playing like shit
>people picking retarded comps with no synergy
>people leaving games and the spot not being filled
>coming into a game that literally ends with a loss 2 seconds later
Who would have thought the casual bare bones game with no content is ruined after 2 weeks
>>343609946
>make game
>spend money on hiring people and making assets
>keep tight lipped because you want to surprise people at the annoucement. and potential make it a big deal when your ghame is annouced.
>clickbait site leaks all shoddy and shitty assets and images of the game
It's cool, its free speech they have the right to release that information if they so choose.
>Do the same as before this time have less contact with media and outside people
>Want to keep the secrecy so you have more potential gains.
>clickbait site gets angry about not being talked to
What do you expect? If you leak my games I will cut off contact. No where does it say that the developer or publisher HAS to keep in contact with the news outlets.
>>343609946
You could insert any website in the place of Kotaku and they would still be in the wrong. No company is obligated to respond or even read the emails you send them on a whim, especially if you're the writer to a known clickbait site.
>>343611040
The extra large hitboxes make it so that if you know the enemy characters height especially in a sniping duel you can shoot as close to the wall as possible where their head should be lined up and get a lucky headshot.
I've seen a decent amount of people fish for headshots this way ever since overwatch hitboxes have become a common topic of discussion.
>>343608027
To show everyone online that you did I guess
>>343607768
>"""toxic"""
>complains about competitive
>SovieticBacon
hmm.
>>343625164
But they do ban for trashtalk on WOW.
Its just no one pays attention to /p or /i anymore.
>kid who couldn't hang with the good players
>noobfeed
sounds about right
you realize the blogger was a lvl 30 hanzo and genji main right?
I would love to see their profile.
>>343607768
>What went so wrong?
Nothing. Stop listening to jelly as fuck sjw sites that are trying very hard to pander battleborn while shitting on overwatch.
>>343610653
5man premade. What now?
They just put flexibility first
Is toxic the new problematic since problematic became a meme?
>>343607768
a game where everyone is using different equipment is not 'competitive'
it's just another party time shooter and can be nothing else
I think my favorite thing right now is blowing out level 80+ tryhards in QM that try to tell me to switch characters or tries to lead the group and micromanage people, and I swiftly remind him that it's a good thing this isn't competitive mode then.
That sends them full tilt but it's actually true. I don't go shit up your 6 character meta cancer on competitive with Zenny, so don't come into MY HOUSE and tell me to git gud. I will git bad all day and will enjoy the fuck out of it.
>>343608098
This. Play a game, everyone do good but one. This retard start to rant about entire team. We lose. Play another game and i have this guy on other team. They lose so he start to write in chat that his entire team was bad.
>>343634184
So literally ever multiplayer fps is a party time shooter
>>343607768
The Problem is that bad players lose ranks and get called out for playing like shit.
This makes people from reddit say "There's no progression!" and "fucking toxic community"
if leddit keeps this up we're back in a hearthstone ranking and communication system where everyone is a winner and the only communication you have are Emotes
>>343634813
Embarrassing post, kill yourself.
>>343607768
>make casual game
>shoehorn a shitty competitive mode and gold skins to give incentive to play it
>community becomes cancerous with elitists playing a brain-dead game
woah, who'd have thought
>>343607768
DON'T SAY GG EZ PLEASE IT REALLY HURTS MY FEELINGS
>>343609991
same shit happens in TF2
>>343607768
reminder that OW threads need to be contained in their /vg/ quarantine zone. this shit doesnt deserve more than 1 threads in /v/ at any given time.
>>343637082
delete this
>>343625518
>once again
>>343626821
>00,78125
Do you even know mathemathics?
>>343607768
>Play Quickplay
>Retards "Maining" and being annoying
>Play Competitive
>Rarely see people do this
>When they do entire team reports for griefing
I honestly enjoy both gamemodes and see 0 issue
>>343629293
Right. Kotaku had every right to release the information they had. It's their job, and it's how they make money. What pissed me off is how they then proceed to write this giant blog post about how they have some kind of ethical mandate to post any leaks they come across, and how that makes Bethesda and Ubisoft bad guys for not talking to them.
>>343612732
>B-B-B-B-BUT MUH FEELINGS
Toxicfags are worse than the "toxic" people they bitch about. It's just some fucking banter. If you don't like it, fucking mute people.
>toxic
Just turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>>343607768
this is the first exposure for many to competitive play. Combine that with modern internet blogger arrogance and you've got a recipe for quality cringe.
>>343609827
god that is fucking ironic coming from kekplek
did anyone call him out on that shit?
>>343637485
Exactly just as its your freedom to post anything and everything you want as a free company.
It's their right to do business with whoever they want.
>>343637958
so is Bethesda and Ubisoft right to not do business with them.
>>343638254
Exactly, but it's always better to play the victim and throw a hissy fit in Kotakus place.
They just need to penalize leavers in competitive mode more.
