Why aren't you working on your indie game idea, /v/?
>Hurr indie games are pretentious.
>The devs are lazy.
>Look at that pixel shit.
Why aren't you cashing on in then?
I write instead
because I'm a programmer with no art skills/creativity
>>343578630
Because I'm a scientist.
Because I'm an artist with no programming skills/creativity
>>343578630
pixel shit
im not buying anything with such little effort put into it
>>343578630
where do i sign up on this /acdg/ x /v/ meme?
>>343578812
Why aren't you writing game scripts?
>I don't want to write for games.
Then why are you even in this thread?
>>343578887
Then why aren't you building game engines? Tons of creative people would like someone capable of programming on their team. It's the programmers dropping out of projects that always lead to disaster. And half the time, they drop out because they get in over their head.
>>343578974
Take that 150K starting salary and pay people to make a game for you.
>>343579036
No one cares what you're buying. Why don't you make something you would want to buy?
>>343579686
WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK
YOURE NOT MY FATHER
I want to but
>have to learn how to program
>"just use gamemaker"
>still have to learn how to use gamemaker
>still have to learn art/pixelart
>still have to learn how to make music
>"just pay someone to do it for you"
>no money
Yeah nah, I'll stick to learning moonspeak
>>343579686
>Then why aren't you building game engines?
I sort of do, I get about 50% of the requirements I want out of them done and then give up because I realize the ideas suck or just feel unfun and then let them rot in whatever repository I used. With no team I have no ideas to bounce off and even if I do its hard to see those ideas come to life with just shapes and blips
I just stick to my decent paying normalfag career
>>343579686
>Then why are you even in this thread?
You asked
>Why aren't you working on your indie game idea, /v/?
And I answered.
I also prefer prose.
>>343578812
im the oposite of you, im doing the art and story of one , but i dont know a shit about programming
shitposting on /v/
it's a plank
So, did he ever finish set F?
>>343580019
So learn to use gamemaker then. The knowledge won't come to you buy sitting around and thinking about it.
Make a decent demo. Find a music freelance guy.(they're everywhere) use his song to make an appeal video, then kickstart the game and pay for more music.
Your pixel art can be shit if the music and game are both good.
>>343580278
I like my plank
>>343580112
Maybe hang around more creative people, and less programmers? There's a ton of creative people just hoping and praying some rogue programmer will offer his service. Or, if you want to really make your own idea come to life, I'm sure you can find rogue artists out there too. A lot of artists just want to be a part of something successful. Go impress them with your half baked builds, and they'll glom on.
>>343580019
Learning programming, especially in an environment like GameMaker, really isn't that hard. When you get right down to it all of programming is learning to assign values to things, comparing those values, and then getting the program to decide what to do next based on those values.
>>343580881
>>343580278
Fine looking planks there.
>>343580938
At work I have little options since my team is completely programmers. I've offered programming services on /v/ a few times in the past, but jump early on when they start going through the early mistakes most failed software projects go through of improper documentation and planning, even after I warn them.
>>343581512
Keep your eyes open for Plank Simulator 2017, coming 2017 on Steam Greenlight
Endless planks, endless content
>>343581673
I wanna be a load bearing beam.
>>343580881
it's a good plank
>>343581901
Get the fuck out of here, this game is not for you beamfags
>>343580881
>>343580278
Will there be board DLC?
>Could code
>Could draw
>Could possibly do a basic passable story
>Can't do music
Well I guess I can't be the jack of all trades.
By the way, what program should I need to use in order to make a 2D game? I heard about Unity and Unreal but should I do everything from scratch?
Because iv never made a game in my life. In decent with code but can't into art at all
>>343578630
>Why aren't you a hypocrite?
>>343582076
Only if I get 2 million on Kickstarter
because I lack creativity.
> I like to draw
> am kinda good at it
> ask some dudea if they want some art made for their gaymes
> do it, upload. Get yelled at for horrible style
Beggers cant be choosers you fucking wanker
>>343582384
>Not just making a buck on an easy project.
It's like you're allergic to money. Don't fall for /v/'s anti-indie meme. It's one of the best things you can do in your life. Getting paid to make video games.
>>343578630
Did anyone ever do the cowgirl version?
>>343582829
Why aren't your working on your cowgirl game idea, anon?
>>343582207
Musicguys are all over the place.
>No Programming skills
>No art skills
>No creativity
>No writting skills
>No music skills
I atleast i had a good innovative concept or a good story i would do it, but no anon, i'm human useless garbage.
>>343583069
Have you tried developing a skill?
>>343583069
never too late anon
>>343580019
Pick your focus. Programming or art
>>343583069
Skills typically don't automatically manifest. Pretty much everyone starts out being shit at what they want to do.
>>343582207
>Can't do music
One app, just one.
SOUNDCLOUD
>>343583260
Sure, Drawing Programming and Composing music.
I just don't have discipline, if i Invest all my free time on it i'm sure that i would be fucking amazing right now.
But there's nothing that makes me want to "do it"
There's no motivation, maybe it's because of all the time that you have to invest but i just don't enjoy drawing or playing guitar, for me is more like a tedious obligation instead of a Joyful Hobby.
You can say that i'm a lazy piece of trash and you probably you're right.
Anon, you must help me. Where can I learn programming? I want to code in Game Maker but I don't know how. Please help.
>>343582654
You probably need formal practice. Get some anatomy books. A lot of natural artists lack fundamentals
See: anyone that animated on Newgrounds or Shadbase
>>343583664
Literally just start with the official documentation
>>343582829
What is this?
>>343580191
Fellow writefag here. Watcha workin' on? I'm trying to find the motivation to work on my novel.
>>343582957
I'm more of an idea guy.
>>343583632
Go back to school.
>>343583690
Yeah, I have read a fair amount of anotamy books, and I have a good understanding of how it works
Should probably say, I misread the request, and when I sent it they started calling me all these names, just hurts man
>>343583909
Art is usually criticized man. It can only make you better
Be real with me /v/
If I make a shitty 10 minute long jump scare walking simulator can I become a billionaire?
>>343583889
No money.
Also the free education in my country is pretty shit.
You can pass through highschool being a total retarded.
>>343582829
Fixed
>>343584045
No,
>>343583664
Look up tutorials. Check the official documentation. Get a game's source and glaze over the scripting. Everyone has to start by relying on other sources.
>>343584045
You just need luck.
>>343584071
Such boring tastes. Completely vanilla. You couldn't even stomach the second forms of each?
You fucking normalfag.
>>343584045
No. FNAF pretty much stole that market till the well ran dry.
Make something because you want to make it
>>343582680
I'm working on a sci-fi novel about a guy getting tracked down by his old organization after he violently defected. The story bounces between flashbacks and present day. Very character driven, some spooky stuff.
Its the first part of a series, but each book has a significant gap between them and a different POV. With the final story piecing them all together.
The first draft is more or less done, ding some serious edits now.
What about you?
>>343578630
I am! I'm working on my third game. Gonna have a kickstarter in a couple months. Cyberpunk isometric RPG splashed with Ben10. It's gonna be dope
>>343584301
He probay masturbates to Nintendo girls and Disney princesses
>>343584041
Fair enough, thanks
>>343584409
>Cyberpunk
>Ben10
Please no
>>343582654
Post some
>>343583909
Post some of it
>>343582207
Gamemaker Studio
RPGMaker
Unity
>>343584071
>not liking blobby slime girl transformations
get it together
>>343584498
I'm hoping he means something more like cyberpunk breath of fire with more transformations than just dragons
>>343584501
>>343584513
Im posting on my phone, and I dont keep any on here. If the thread isnt ded by the time I get home ill post some
>>343582591
Pajama Sam
>>343584390
>I'm not making a video game. I'm writing some bland science fiction novel nobody wants to read.
>What about you?
Hmmmm... Well let's see... I'm NOT writing for projects that aren't video games.
>>343584498
Don't worry, you'll be one of the first ones buying it. You're gonna buy my premium kickstarter package. You may even blow me after playing my game
>>343578630
I'm building a PC and taking some animation classes to do just that.
I wanna make an action adventure platformer inspired by Sonic and Ganbare Goemon in terms of gameplay. fantasy/cyber punk aesthetic
>>343584409
>Ben 10
I was juuuuust too old when that one came out. Missed the Ben 10 boat. I can only see it as that lame kiddie action series.
>>343582591
Stabbity "Donte" Jones, the soldier who never scores.
>>343582552
That is some nice ass water there anon, keep up the good work.
>>343584878
It isn't that good after season 1 anyways
>>343580881
>>343580278
It's just a plank, bro.
>>343582591
Keyll
>>343584762
Huh, responded to the wrong guy, no wonder.
>>343580239
yo
>>343584390
>>343584048
can confirm, I passed highschool and I'm a fucking idiot who barely even remembers anything about algebra even
>>343578630
Because I know nothing about programming, sound, or art.
>>343584414I doIn their normal clothes, too
>>343585609my fetish is ballroom gowns/long dresses/cloaks/regal outfitsNintendo and Disney cater to me almost 100% of the time
Nigga, i cant art, i cant program, i have literally 0 ideas for games, and i dont have time because i have a job
Because I'm a creative with no art or programming skills. No one needs an "idea guy".
>>343585968
you can be an ideas guy and still be useful
project management when done properly is very helpful and useful
>>343578630
>Why aren't you working on your indie game idea, /v/?
I've always been working on the "ideas" but I have no drive to make them
>>343585784
The fact that the video game industry tends to favor sexy, scantily clad women is the biggest tragedy to my preferences ever
>>343585968
If you can't create, then you're not creative.
You need to have the skills to actually manifest your ideas into reality. Even if it's what the other anon suggested by being a project manager. Leadership is very important.
I like to think I have excellent ideas, but I have no fucking clue how to start working on one.
Because I'm a writer by profession and everyone thinks they write fine enough by themselves.
And if they're just writing indie games, they're probably right.
How's HeartBeast GM tutorial? Any good?
>>343585609
I make pretty good reads on people
>>343585968
>Friend of mine is only taking a game design course at college (despite like 4 of his other friends who took that and dropped out have told him not to do it) solely because he's an idea guy
>His ideas are fucking terrible
I'm curious to see how long he'll last
>>343578887
>tfw exact opposite
>>343586246
>You need to have the skills
Most important skill being the skill to pick up skills in an area where you have none
If you can use google you're halfway there
>>343585961
Where do you work?
>>343578630
>>343582829
What game is this? I already like it from what i see of your sprites.
>>343586157
Fucking this.
>>343586296
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gamemaker%3A+studio
>>343586431
>>343578887
wow it's almost like you can team up or something
>>343586537
It's not a game, just some spritefag making sprites for kinks sake
>>343586501
warehouse, physical labor, afternoon to late night
>>343586312
Lol real talk. The standard for vidya stories is next to webcomic tier.
In all honesty though, gameplay does matter more.
>>343586597
Neither of them have the drive and discipline.
If The Witness can go for $40 and sell well then anyone can make a Myst-like puzzle island adventure game and it'll work out, right? Because my personal dislike of the game really made me want to make something like it. But better.
I just wanna make a first person game where you play as a psycho, and your trying to either calm yourself down ( the mash 'button' sequences ) or just fo full apeshit
And the kills would be actually brutal
I'm thinking about making a text adventure but the website I'm using for it has some problems that I don't like so eventually I'm thinking about figuring out how to code one which shouldn't be too hard but harder than anything I've ever done.
>>343578630
I seriously want to know if this "game" will ever amount to anything.
>>343586719
Just use twine
>>343586597
I can't just go picking up anons and expect it to work out well
>>343586641
Perhaps, I know I'm guilty of it.
Still, would be interesting to see them use. I imagine they work like transformation abilities akin to something like Wario 2 or Shantae.
>>343586648
I work production line, mornings.
You gotta find time to do what you want to do otherwise you'll be there forever. You don't want to be one of those people that say "I planned to work here for a year but ended up working here for 10" Do you?
>>343586664
>>343586824
yeah you fucks lack discipline and patience like the first guy i quoted implied
>>343586789
Hmm. This looks good but is there any way to type in what to do? Can I make it so you can look at stuff in the scenery? That's kind of the most important part.
>>343586783
Is there a blog for it?
>>343587076
Programming anon come forth please
We need to prove this man otherwise
>>343586597
Working with people on /v/ is a waste of time, I've got more success with /tg/
>>343587094
I beleive so, just try out the interactive tutorial. People have made some crazy stuff in it too since it runs of HTML
>>343578630
met someone here in this very thread a couple days ago to work on a free game with
I bet there are others, too, with art skills or programming skills just waiting for partnership but you guys just don't ask.
>>343587183
I'm >>343587203
If I need people I'll go to other sites. /v/ on average is filled with underaged and depressed people. Both whom are very passive with ideas/feedback and act like yes men even when everything is on fire
>>343587379
>Both whom are very passive with ideas/feedback and act like yes men even when everything is on fire
care to elaborate on that
>>343587379
I was mostly kidding but thanks anyway haha
>being creative enough to write, code, and design a fucking video game
get the fuck off of my /v/ you fucking nornalfags
>>343587457
You dont want betas on your team. They just "go with the flow", get all these juicy and impractical ideas then wig out when things get challenging.
Happened with nearly every single /v/ dev team
>>343587379
and you're being a contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. not much better.
>>343587183
at least this bro has the spirit. i was hoping you fags would prove me wrong. i'm half right, but ultimately completely wrong
>setting is basically the colony ship from alpha centauri a couple of weeks before planetfall
>the ship is torn apart by civil war and mutiny
>factions spring up, controlling areas of the ship
>sabotage is rampant, and controlling an area with power, heating, running water and a food supply is a momumental task
>and with less than a month before planetfall, it also becomes essential to control a landing pod and exploration gear
>teaming up with other survivors is viable, but not necessary. You can form your own enclave or join another
It'd be incredible as a first person game, journeying outside your territory to figure out why the water has run out, a bit like Alien Isolation or System Shock 2. But more feasibly it could be a simple RPG where you assign jobs to your survivors.
>>343587605
This was my experience working with /v/ as well.
Bunch of memey fucks too. Holy shit. I thought the memes were ironic, until I started chatting with them outside of the board, and they were still spewing that shit.
I've been tinkering with making my own RPG, and I thought it would be neat if the music was actually public domain classical music.The final boss is on the moon and the theme is New World Symphony
>>343587559
normalfags don't make video games.
>>343578630
>European girl moves to America and discovers tumblr.png
>>343587227
Where is that? I've downloaded it and am messing around with it but I can't find that tutorial on the site
>>343587559
Normalfags aren't creative. Normalfags are like you.
>>343588221
alright try this then, has a bunch of documentation
http://twinery.org/wiki/twine2:guide
>>343588046
The music itself, as in the literal sheet music, is public domain, but recordings of public domain music are not themselves public domain.
What's the point? What's the fucking point?
/v/ is going to hate my game anyways.
I keep writing ideas and ideas but when I read I keep thinking: /v/ will hate this. Meme idea. This one is literaIIy reddit. /v/ will hate this. Meme game. No one wants to play this. /v/ will make fun of me.
>>343587457
What >>343587605 says is mostly what I meant.
They're nice people, but when it comes to ideas as long as they get their one or two ideas they don't care about anything else and just "go with the flow". I don't want to use the term as a derogative, but they're really "beta" and its hard to bounce ideas back and forth like that. In small groups, even one of these kinds of people is a huge setback.
>>343587643
contrarian? I've worked with /v/, and this is usually the case. I understand how projects succeed and fail and the people who find on /v/ are mostly the type to lead a project into the fail category. Its not just me, most everyone that's worked with /v/ usually has negative experiences, its why you rarely find any successful /v/ projects where as other boards usually comes out with at least one or two successful projects.
I'm not be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, I've tried it, it doesn't work, I don't want to wast 2-6 months on another failed group, its obvious to almost everybody that's attempted in the past that if you have a vidya project that you want to succeed, don't base your recruitment on /v/
>>343587489
I'm just sick of the people I've found here, good luck with your project m8
>>343588790
Anon you really need to get away from that mindset. /v/ is the absolute last group of nerds whose opinion you should care about.
>>343588790
And why is /v/ an expert community that will give you the feedback that you need?
>>343586662
I didn't mean it as a dig. There's just not much need for me.
But everyone thinks they're a competent writer even if they're shit. Ask every client I've ever had.
>>343588792
One day I will make video games
>>343588790
>Centering the potential of your ideas on what a shitty website things
This is fucking /v/ we're talking about, they hate just about everything. If it's triple A, it's shilled and if it's indie, it's pixelshit.
Just do your best to create something that you believe is good.
>>343588790
/v/ shits on good games because they're popular. Fuck /v/ it's opinion is worthless.
>>343588790
bad post
>>343588790
Are you nonmetaphorically autistic? /v/ hates everything, and it likes everything. It's a collective of people, so unless it's reviled by every type of person, it has an audience.
>>343589016
What kind of writing work do you do?
>>343586667
The witness didnt sell that well
http://steamspy.com/app/210970
>>343588447
It really looks like this isn't what I'm looking for. I looked at a forum post where someone asked if they could make one and it's not easy to do. I'll stick with Quest for Text Adenture but I might use Twine for stories as well.
Quest is good for it but my problem with it is that I can't save my game as an exe and if it's a long game the UI gets bloated with no way to expand or reduce things you're looking at so you just end up with a huge line of stuff and it's hard to look at. But doable.
>>343588790
Protip
Treat /v/ has the HUMONGUS PILE OF SHIT that will be the fertilizer for your getting good.
You dont eat shit, you dont keep it in your house, but you SURE AS HELL will use it to make that really cool garden
Treat /v/ as a platform to eventually branch out from, thats all it ever can be
I'm pretty confident in my art skills and I'm learning to program but I've never felt like a very creative person.
Is creativity something you can improve?
>>343589093
me too friend
>>343589621
Watch and consume media that you like and other art that you're into and if you get inspired or ideas then that's creativity. If you don't get that then you're not. I doubt you can teach it.
>>343589492
Cool, good luck dude! Hopefully you find what you need.
>>343588790
I was worried about the same thing, but listen. Make that game for you and no one else. It's impossible to please everyone, so be selfish and please yourself. Make the game that YOU want. Make what your heart desires. Pour your heart and soul into it and be proud of your creation no matter what anyone says.
>>343582591
>that bulge
>>343588934
>>343588982
>>343589109
Why are you even here?
If you didn't cared about what /v/ thinks you wouldn't even be posting.
>>343589621
Yes, most creative people in history are successful only after a lot of failure, and even then their creativity isn't recognized until after they're dead. Just keep at it, fail, learn from it, and try again.some people are lucky and get it right the first time
>>343589996
/v/ is a fun place to talk to people and maybe you'll get some good threads out of it amidst the shitposting but it's clear if you've been here for any length of time this place is worthless when it comes to opinion.
Anyone have that "fetish game" idea someone posted in one of these threads?
>>343589996
You can be part of a "community" while also understanding its faults.
A lot of people here are negative and shit on things for the hell of it. Because of the nature of this site it can be impossible to tell if the person is genuine or not. ignoring feedback from this site is generally a good idea.
>want to make h-game
>have general idea of gameplay
>development is at a standstill because my writing is shit-tier and i can't conceptualize characters worth shit
I am, just finishing my savegame system. Its Dark Souls but with phone booths.
>>343578630
The real reason is because 90% of the people on /v/ (myself included) have no talent but like shitting on people anyways
Search your feelings, you know it to be true
>>343590506
Looks cool! Got a blog?
>>343590526
Search my feelings? It's not as if you're saying something that's difficult to come to terms with. It's a very obvious observation.
My game idea is basically an RPG minesweeper clone with some MMBN thrown in.
I even drew out the what the first and second phase of the final boss look like (pic related phase 1), and made a battle theme for the first phase (https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/the-great-four-armed-general)Can someone please collaborate with me on this
>>343578630
>Want to start seriously working on my game but there are a lot of things which are preventing me from doing so
This fucking sucks. I really want to work on it while I still have a lot of free time and motivation too but everything is out of my control.
>>343590585
It would be cool but I worry the advertising wouldn't be worth the time it'd take to make the blog.
>>343589265
Freelance. Mostly marketing writing, but also ghostwriting some books, doing resumes and CVs, and magazine articles.
>>343590986
Enjoy it at all? How hard was it to get into?
>>343590894
It takes 5 minutes to make a tumblr.
>>343590728
This song is pretty neat, anon. Wish I could help, but my only strength is writing.
>>343591186
Aah okay, well thanks for the sentiment!
>>343578630
Don't have money. Have to work on other people's ideas to eat. Sucks to be me.
>>343590728
Pretty cool reminds me of Something like castle crashers.
>>343582829
>>343578630
what even is this?
>>343591546
I fucking loved that game so that's great praise
>>343591634
I think it's called,read the thread.
>>343591706
read the thread but I got nothing dude
>>343591076
Frankly I hate it most of the time. I thought writing for a living would be awesome but it turns out that 90% of the time you're writing stupid bullshit you don't care about for self important assholes who see you as nothing more than labor and only value the time it takes to write and not the skill of writing.
On the occasion you do enjoy something, it almost always gets chopped to bits by the client who thinks they need to make a thousand changes to everything in order to prove that they're better than you at the thing you do for a living. Which, by the way, makes every project take twice as long as it should as you trudge through a dozen revisions.
It's like being a race car driver forced to drive a limo for some spoiled rich girl who can't stop backseat driving.
It's easy to get into, there are always jobs, but expect to make lower than minimum wage at first until you find a client who actually values you
I'm thinking of changing careers.
>>343591926
I guess you should lurk more then.
>>343591986
Glad I decided to just do Marketing and write on the side
I dont think I can deal with that
>>343591634
It's someone who started out with a pixel game, and it turned into fetish fuel
>>343591634
It's just some anon's sprite art
>>343580019
The Unity tutorials are actually really, really good for starting out learning how to code. Lots of practical application.
in b4 >Unity
Gotta start somewhere.
>>343591658
Great, hope your game will be fun to play, and not some boredoom shit.
I have no gods but i'll be praying for your success.
>>343592435
Unity is a fine engine. You can do pretty much anything in it.
