I don't feel like playing it, so let's discuss it instead.
Dragon quest thread!
the girl with the thing is hot
>>343568389
>tfw all the porn is about Maya instead Meena
>tfw most of them are futa
>>343568539
The headband?
>>343568845
Needs more Sofia porn
I've never played a DQ game but I learned of the females from 3 recently. It was a good day
I also don't play DQ but I like to pretend I do. Usually I just masturbate to risque fanart. My favorite is Alena.
>>343568389
Are these ladies in chapter 3 or 4? Please don't tell me I have to play as Torneko next.
>>343569069
Warrior, mage, priest, they're all great
>>343569168
Torneko is next, but he is very likable
>>343569104
>Alena
that butt is just...
>>343568389
That /ss/ doujin with those two by Unou is top tier. I recommend it to everyone
>>343569532
Hnnnggg... my tongue fetish...
>>343569032
>Sofia
Who?
>>343570140
Weirdly for all its popularity and importance in Japan DQ doesn't have nearly enough good doujins.
>>343570419
The heroine from IV. All the dq girls are top tier.
>>343570962
Don't be silly DQ heroes don't have names
>>343571141
The hero from V is called yoshihiko. That's my head Canon
>>343569032
But Meena is my waifu
>>343569032
Agree, it's always 3 heroine.
>>343568389
>brown
>twins
>tight bodies
>exotic jewelry
how many of my fetishes can they fit into one pictures?
>Maya and Meena
It's Mara and Nara you dumb fucks, it was meant to be like Marinara sauce!
Cunts.
got 4 for my mobile because of the party chat, but it got destroyed at the chapter when they all group up and you've gotten all the artifacts. Now I can't bare to start up again, a year after I lost my phone
>>343568845
http://exhentai.org/g/809476/85ca3def39/
>>343571696
They aren't actually twins, the dancer is the older sister. They just look alike because Toriyama can't draw ages for shit.
>>343573968
>They just look alike because Toriyama can't draw faces for shit.
FTFY
>>343574226
He can draw faces, he just doesn't go beyond the same pool of 7 faces for girls and 5 faces for men.
I feel like playing DQ. I always do. I've just played all the games. At least twice. I'm playing most of the FF games at the moment just as filler until DQVII comes out.
>>343572502
thanks based anon
>most DQ porn is Bianca getting impregnated by the giant horse monster
I'm okay with this.
>>343576420
And yet only some of it has birthing, sucks...
>>343576553
>And yet only some of it even has baby bumps, sucks...
FTFY
How much do you enjoy the following, on a scale from 1 to 10:
- fighting random battles
- fighting boss battles
- exploring the overworld
- exploring dungeons
- ransacking towns
- viewing cutscenes
>>343577414
>fighting random battles
1. I've never liked random battles, even back in the 90s I never liked them.
>fighting boss battles
10
>exploring the overworld
If it's interesting, 10. Otherwise, a much lower score.
>exploring dungeons
10, as long as they're designed well.
>ransacking towns
8
>viewing cutscenes
There's too many variables for this one. In general it's fine unless there's too many and/or they're too long, unless they're the best part of the game.
>>343577414
>fighting random battles
Depends/10
Sometimes I love grinding in RPGs, it's kinda relaxing but when I need to go to X point then is really annoying
>fighting boss battles
10
>exploring the overworld
9/10
It's funny because I hate open-world games because there's too freedom...funny enough, in JRPGs I love explore shit
>exploring dungeons
5/10
Sadly most dungeons are shit. Pic related for example was a fucking nightmare
Dragon Quest 8 dungeons are really good though
>ransacking towns
7/10
>viewing cutscenes
I love short cutscenes so is basically why I'm into DQ games
>>343577414
>- fighting random battles
5/10 in other series, 10/10 in Dragon Quest
- fighting boss battles
6/10, bosses aren't really necessary to me. But they work to show an obvious end to a story arc or dungeon.
>- exploring the overworld
20/10, this is why DQVIII is my favorite game in all of gaming.
>- exploring dungeons
8/10, along as as they're done well, they are some of the more enjoyable parts of an RPG.
>- ransacking towns
1/10 in most games, 10/10 in Dragon Quest.
>- viewing cutscenes
3/10, very few games do it right. And most games that don't do it don't really lose anything in the immersion or story.
>>343579072
>5/10 in other series, 10/10 in Dragon Quest
What makes random battles in Dragon Quest special?
Same with ransacking towns.
>>343579546
>What makes random battles in Dragon Quest special?
THe DQ team spends a lot of time playtesting and tweaking EXP rates to make sure areas have a good balance. This is because in Dragon Quest II, there was some massive balancing issues. So Yuji Horii has vowed since then to never rush a game to release until after everything has been playtested by himself personally.
Aside from EXP rates and flow, the game also gives you a dozen different ways to lower or avoid battles, as well as skills to trigger battles when you want. Zoom, Evac and Whistle are basically the best tools I've ever seen in a random encounter game. And really should have been in all games by the SNES. Yet its 2016 and we still have most series not utilizing them.
>Same with ransacking towns.
There's just 100x more stuff to find in DQ towns than most other RPGs. There's more items to find in just the starting town of DQVIII than an entire game like FFVI. But along with having tons of stuff to find, its also been balanced well. You get items you need for the next dungeon (like a free pot lid for a shield) and some items you probably won't even need for 20 hours (such as an alchemy item like Orichalcum). But the point is, you are rewarded for exploring. Whereas you can search all of South Figaro in FFVI and only come up with 2 potions and an elixir out of hundreds of objects.
>>343580284
>the game also gives you a dozen different ways to lower or avoid battles
Which I can almost never do because I feel like I'm cheating myself out of EXP and money.
>Zoom, Evac and Whistle are basically the best tools I've ever seen in a random encounter game. And really should have been in all games by the SNES. Yet its 2016 and we still have most series not utilizing them.
I agree with that. Playing other RPGs after Dragon Quest was kind of annoying due to not having fast ways out of dungeons. Final Fantasy used to, but they got rid of that in the mid-late 90s.
>>343580724
And even then, FF only had Teleport. But no zoom option. Took them until fucking FFXII to have a way to warp across the world. And it was still limited to just crystal points.
>>343580284
Thanks for the thorough explanation. Strangely, I've actually had a hard time trying to figure out how to approach Dragon Quest's random battles. In VIII for example, I think the most time-efficient strategy is to use padfoot/holy water to reduce the encounter rate, run from most battles, and to whistle like crazy whenever metal slimes might show up. But if I take that approach, what's stopping me from grinding past the "right" level and then breezing through the next dungeons? Or even if I don't fight metal slimes, whenever I get to a boss I think I could beat, unless I've committed to avoiding random battles altogether then I feel like I should level up a bit to save items and real time in the boss fight. And that ends up ruining said boss fight.
In some RPGs I can just skip all random battles, but random battles are just so crucial to Dragon Quest that I can't ignore them entirely. I realize this is an incredibly autistic / OCD sort of issue, but I think I'd enjoy Dragon Quest games more if I could just figure out a concrete rule for dealing with random battles. Can anyone suggest a solution?
>>343582282
>Can anyone suggest a solution?
Play the 3DS version, kill metal monsters now and then, avoid other encounters. Other than that, no, I think your autism is too powerful.
>>343582282
DQVIII is one of the best balanced games out there. If you just fight what enemies you naturally encounter, you should be at the right level. And if you explore all the optional areas, you'll be more powerful than you need to be. Not only because of extra levels, but all the free gear and alchemy items you get.
If you still can't stand to fight stuff, then the game just probably isn't for you. Though I will point out that DQVIII has one of the lowest encounter rates for an RPG out there, if not the lowest. So if you can't stand DQVIII, you probably won't get through any other JRPGs. Try playing Final Fantasy IV or Pokemon Red/Blue sometime. Battles every 1-2 steps.
>>343583459
>Though I will point out that DQVIII has one of the lowest encounter rates for an RPG out there
This is another reason I'd like to play the PS2 version someday, people say it's random battles done right, and that's kind of hard to comprehend. Still sucks that you get into random battles on the... I forgot what it's called, the big cat you can ride. In the 3DS version it's easy to avoid enemies while on it.
I wonder when Chen's going to show up.
I'm looking forward to DQ7. Never played it before.
I've never played a DQ game, which one should I start with?
>>343584449
It's fun.
>>343584563
If you're up for it: The first one, and go from there. I did and it was fun. That's not for everyone though. III, IV, V, and VIII are all good starts, or even the upcoming 3DS version of DQ VII if you can handle really long games.
>>343584449
Same here. But I have a normal 3DS XL and it'll probably run like shit on it.
I love Dragon Quest
>>343584817
I played it on an original 3DS, it and DQ VIII and I had no issues. You'll be fine.
>>343584817
DQ7 isn't N3DS enhanced.
DQ8 I don't know, though.
>>343585009
It's not. Speaking of that though, the only bit of 3D even in the game is a menu. I can't even remember which one, but I remember Trode in it. I think it was battle history or something. But yeah, that's the only place where the game has any sort of 3D effect at all, strangely enough.
>>343585159
Oh, good. I was a little worried about that myself. I also have an O3DS. An original sized unit, though.
>>343585582
Not that it makes a difference.
>>343584242
>>343584242
>>343584563
>>343576816
>not liking birthing
Shitposter.
>>343568389
What's a good intro to the series famalam? I've been interested in getting into it for a while now.
Most of places I look suggest that VIII is a really solid one and I'm planning on getting it for 3DS when its out in 3 years or however long localization is taking. But until then wat do?
>>343586602
3 or 4. 5 is also excellent but I wouldn't say it's a good starting point.
Also, see >>343586104
>>343582282
>Running from battles
Nigga no
Use status effects on enemies that are susceptible to them, they're much more reliable in DQ than in most other series. Even Thwack will kill half of an enemy group pretty reliably if they aren't immune.
Use Boomerangs, Whips, and AoE abilities to speed this up further.
dragon quest is the perfect pooping game.
i really hate how the ds titles won't let you quick save everywhere though.
>>343586602
4 is the best starting game since Chapter 1 is pretty much a tutorial by itself
>>343586924
Thanks senpai!
>>343586945
This. I cannot stress enough how fighting in DQ games is not about dealing the most damage, but dealing damage in a smart way. In effect, fighting in a DQ game is about doing things in the least amount of turns. So hitting all enemies for only 40 damage with a boomerang will still be faster than hitting one enemy at a time for 100 damage.
The 'strategy' in DQ game is about how to mitigate turns. In other words, play smarter, not harder. And nearly everyone I see who seems to dislike the games follows the harder route.
>>343587006
Sofia is cute, cute!
>>343587535
bruteforcing is a perfectly viable strategy for at least 75% of each game.
send help, its the classic RPG shit I never got the hang of. Lack of MP restoring items, or they cost a fuck ton compared to HP. If I don't use MP in normal battles I get shit on by the enemies and if I do I run out before I get anywhere significant in the dungeon or by the boss.
ded thred
ded series
>>343588965https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npMOFSObE24
>>343588961
Most spells are cheap besides like, Kazing and Kaboom. You shouldn't be running out of MP much once you get past the really early game.
There's other ways to get MP back like Prayer Rings, or some abilities.
Who /hypeforDQ7/ here?
>>343586945
>>343587535
I (think I) know how to win random battles as efficiently as possible (e.g. in 8 use boomerangs, thin air, whips, re-usable items like timbrel of tension, etc). But running is an even more efficient way to end random battles in one turn. It also keeps your team in better shape for boss fights. If you decide that you will fight random battles, then the "smart strategy" is to only fight metal slimes.
But while that may be more efficient, perhaps a more fun way to play is to ignore the smart strategy, fight random battles, and avoid metal slimes.
>>343589496
Running is stupid because DQ is generally pretty balanced and if you fight all the battles you run into while exploring normally, you'll be at the perfect level to deal with whatever shit the game throws at you.
The only time you should be spamming shit like Holy Water/Padfoot/etc is if you're going back through an area you've already been to before to unlock a chest you couldn't open earlier or some shit like that.
Playing III on sfc and fighting zoma, should I do the bonus dungeon or move on to I-II on sfc?
>>343589478
Can't wait.
>>343589478
Me. God damn it looks good.
>>343588961
There's so many ways to return back to town or get your MP back in battle, I don't see where you are running into problems. And its not like a sign of weakness to go back to town and heal. They give you the evac and zoom skills for a reason. Some of the hardest parts of the series are Rhone in DQII or Orochi's dungeon in DQIII. And its perfectly fine to leave those areas, heal, and then come back.
The only time you can't leave in a DQ game is the Jail/Dharma Temple in DQVII. Which is why its so hard.
>>343589496
Fighting everything you encounter and metal slimes is more efficient. You might be able to beat the regular game by avoiding battles, but probably not the end game boss.
>>343589478
Every DQ fan.
Man slogging through DQ6 is just so awful, this story makes no sense and nothing I'm doing seems to have any connection to anything else that I'm doing. What were they thinking? At least the gameplay is pretty good.
>>343589814
Probably just move on to I-II, the bonus dungeon isn't that interesting. Bonus dungeons rarely are in JRPGs.
>>343590016
I believe DQ VI was made by a different team. It did feel like a total slog to me. My 138 hours in DQ VII seemed to go by quicker.
>>343590016
VI is the most disliked game in the series behind only II, worst character designs in the series, even counting VIII's generic designs.
Which DQ has thecutest girls?
>>343590324
Please no, not waifu stuff again. It's fine now and then, but we've had at least a couple DQ waifu threads in the past couple days.
>>343575623
What's the story behind this?
I'm playing DQ II. I've got the Sun and Moon seals. Now I have to go find some Moon Shard so I can get into the tower but I don't know where to find it. Or some silly fabric for a robe.
>>343590237
My problem is that there is no overarching plot besides getting the hero his body back, but nothing I've done so far has been even remotely linked to that, I'm just running around helping random people. I can't even tell where to go half the time because nothing I'm doing is connected to what I'm going to be doing. You know you have a shit game design when you have to fall back on returning to a fortune teller to slap the player in the face with where they should be going.
>>343590316
The characters are pretty bad, but to be fair, I actually like Carver and Amos is at least passable.
>>343590316
>worst character designs
I just can't agree with that senpai, Barbara, Muriel and Hassan were great.
>>343590469
That is the most delicious Alena I've ever seen.
>>343590609
>nothing I've done so far has been even remotely linked to that, I'm just running around helping random people. I can't even tell where to go half the time because nothing I'm doing is connected to what I'm going to be doing
This is probably DQVI's biggest flaw: there's no real main villain to lead you along after Murdaw. In most other DQ games you're chasing the villain or a villain, in VI you just roam around fighting evil. It feels really directionless.
>>343590609
Yeah I know what you mean. I don't play DQ for its story, and the earlier games didn't bother me, but DQ VI's plot was really bad to me for some reason. As you said, like, a quarter of the way into the game (or a third or something) you're literally told to find yourself, and that's how it stays until the last third of the gamewhen everyone suddenly starts talking about a new Dark Lord all of a sudden like they've all known about him before.
>>343589893
It really does. I love how vibrant everything looks.
Stealth robert morrow thread?
https://twitter.com/RobMorroLiberty/status/749421044096651270
>>343590772
I agree completely. I was surprised when I finished Murdaw and there was no reveal for the real big bad guy.
>>343584004
Who?
>>343590892
The resolution isn't terrible either if that makes sense. Nothing really looks blurry or unfocused; it's all crystal clear.
>>343591038
The worst part is you run into other Dread Fiends but you kill them right after you meet them and they don't provide any direction. It's a giant waste.
Can anyone explain the waifu mechanic of V? I have a vague idea of how it comes down to three qts and you get to fug one of them, I'm mostly wondering how well its carried out in game since its pretty intriguing to me to have something like this in an actual legit RPG.
Is it like a pseudo dating sim thing where you get to hang out with them for a while and then get to choose and then live out the comfy life like RF or HM or something? Or is it shitty like you meet them and get 3 text boxes and have to pick one and it has little bearing on anything.
>>343590016
>flashing muriel's tits every turn
best game
>>343591256
Who's the qt on the right?or is it a trap?
>>343590670
>Muriel
Huh? You mean Mireille? Or ts that what they called her in the fan-translation?
>>343591247
See: >>343589042
Shows up EVERY Dragon Quest thread without fail to post a clip from 10.
>>343591309
No, at one point in the game you have to choose between 3. That's it. They have some dialog but nothing major. After picking one you go back on the road almost immediately afterwards.
>>343591412
Maribel. No, not a trap.
>>343591412
Maribelle. Pretty sure I spelled that right. Anyway, party member in DQ VII and probably important to the plot.
>>343591309
Early in the game you go on a mini adventure with one of the eventual waifu choices
Way later when you're looking for a magical thingy, you go to a town where a rich guy owns said ancient shit and he's having a test to see who's worthy of marrying his daughter, with a bonus magical thingy thrown in free of charge (in the DS version he has another daughter that's also an option).
On your adventure to prove you're worthy to marry the rich dude's daughter, you run into Waifu #1 and she tags along. After completing your quest it turns out that rich dude is a massive bro and offers to pay for your wedding and give you the magical thingy no matter who you marry, then you pick your waifu.
>>343590237
DQVI had the same core team (Armor Project) behind it. Meaning, Yuji Horii wrote the story and laid out the games 'scenario' (pacing and development).
I honestly don't know why VI feels so hallow compared to the rest of the series however. And Yuji Horii seems to never talk about VI in interviews. Perhaps Yuji Horii had his hands full also working on Chrono Trigger. But that's just a theory.
>>343590316
DQVI had fine character designs. Except maybe Hassan who is way too DBZ. But some people like that.
In terms of unique design however, DQVI has some of the more unique looking stuff in the series. There was an anime that came out about 5 years ago where the girl looked exactly like Barbara. Same exact hair, eyes and everything. But I haven't seen anyone else use this style of hair.
>>343591309
You just pick one and then marry them, no dating elements. They have different stats and they have a slightly different spell set, that's all mechanically. Whom you marry effects the hair color of your children and the dialogue. That's about it really other some bonus money if you choose to marry Nera or Deborah.
>>343591449
I think you all mean Milly.
>>343591309
It's done pretty poorly in my opinion, none of the girls are really developed and basically are very basic stereotypes like "sweet and cute" or "mean but secretly nice". Bianca is basically forced on you too. All you do is choose which wife you want, that's it. Also as party members they're ok, not super terrible but your children and monsters are WAY better.
>>343591663
Oh so I was wrong. Huh. Well, even the best have missteps now and then.
>>343591753
Their personalities get fleshed out a lot more if you read every party chat possible.
>>343591682
Well, I was going off the Japanese name. Plus Alpha decided that Milly was better than Mireille.
>>343569032
>>343570419
>>343571141
i just name them the number of the game
>Four
>>343591753
I thought the whole wedding was forced. I mean the Hero rolls into town one day in the middle of his quest to find his mother, and to add to that he's probably pretty mentally messed up from spoilers, but then he's like "Hey, a contest. I'll win it and get married, because why not?"
>>343591663
>Meaning, Yuji Horii wrote the story and laid out the games 'scenario' (pacing and development).
He's done this for ever game in the series. Sugiyama, Toriyama, and Horii are the only three to work on every game without fail, because the three of them kind of joint own it.
>>343592042
He needed the Zenithian Shield
Sign this, the last got us Heroes, 7 3DS, Builders, 8 3DS
https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-square-enix-localize-dragon-quest-11-to-the-west-once-released
>>343592042
He needed the shield. He was collecting the Zenithian Equipment. That is literally the only reason he participated.
>>343590468
It's a side-quest from Dragon Quest X ver 2.4 or 3.0, can't remember
>>343592117
Oh yeah, kinda forgot about that.
>Even Zenithian is a fucking pun!
>>343591929
No, that's dumb as shit, as far as I know.
I- no official name
II- no official name
III- roto/loto/erdrick
IV- solo/sofia
V- abel(?)
VI- no official name
VII- arus(?)
VIII- eight
IX- no official name
X- no official name
XI- no official name (as of yet)
Can VII be emulated? It's the only one other than X that I've never played.
>>343592130
>sexualizing meena
STOP
>>343592080
>He's done this for ever game in the series.
That's what I was pointing out. And why its weird that DQVI feels so different from the other games. But I guess DQIX feels different as well. Though Yuji Horii admits he was putting more effort into making DQX, which was in production at the same time as IX.
>>343592615
I don't see the pun there.
>>343592739
Of course, there are many PlayStation emulators.
>>343592130
Gonna play the Nip version anyway, but sure.
>>343592739
Buy it on 3DS and support the series. This is one series that actually needs financial support or we might not get the other dozen games on 3DS, PS4 and NX.
>>343592729
>VIII- eight
wait wut
>>343591412
Maribel and here's some of her class images
>>343592729
..V, VII, and VIII's protags have names? I thought only III and IV's did.
Also, X's Hero does have a name, because none of the players are the Hero. She's an NPC in the world.
>>343592807
Zenith. What's a zenith? The highest point reached by a celestial object. And where is Zenithia?
>>343592947
as far as I know the names associated with heroes come from the manga adaptations of the games.
>>343592905
A lot of those are just the names from screenshots in the game manuals. I guess you could consider them official if you want but I always just roll with DQ_'s Hero
>>343592970
Oh, okay. I wouldn't really call that a pun. Nadiria is the same.
>>343592905
>>343592947
Abel and arus come from the mangas, why I put the (?). Eight is also debatable but things such as manual/guide books called him this. Pretty stupid name honestly.
>>343593180
Ha, didn't know that one (because I didn't know the English name). The Japanese names are more generic: Heavenly Castle and Demon Realm.
>>343592802
I don't really consider DQIX or DQX to be true DQ games.
>>343593364
what's VI's underworld called in Japanese? In English in's the Dread Realm.
>>343592802
Oh, my bad. I thought you meant that he had just come on board along with Armor Project for VI.
>>343593498
Literally, "The World In-between". If I recall correctly, it was sealed between the real and dream worlds, so that's where it gets its name.
>>343593672
Interesting, that's pretty neat. It makes it sound far less malicious. I almost feel like that should be what the dream world is called.
>>343593805
A lot of Japanese names are pretty plain actually. Interesting as the language can be, it's also pretty dry at times. Like, they like to use "Makai" (literally, demon world, but it can be translated other ways to, Ma isn't always demon) for most evil worlds it seems.
>>343594147
Japanese tends to sound really cool until you translate it
>>343570869
It's just like that sometimes. For Fate it was about half a year before there was ANY lewd of Jeanne. After that it just kind of exploded all at once.
>>343592801
It's Nara, idjit.
>>343594203
Yeah, that's why translators usually try to spruce things up. Sometimes they go too far, but their intentions are usually good.
Never realized they ported a bunch of DQ games to Android. Now I'm interested even though they have shitty Square Enix mobile pricing
Should I start with the first one? How well does it hold up
>>343593465
I do. And I want Dragon Quest X more than any game. It seems to have fixed all the issues DQIX had, plus is the only good looking MMO. Its the game we need in the west.
>>343594597
The first one's kind of grindy and simple. I'd recommend IV to start, it's a great game.
>>343594509
Changes to phrasing that ultimately mean the same thing are fine and to be expected, otherwise Japanese -> English would be full of run on sentences and borderline yoda-speak, the problem is when things like character names or dialogue gets completely rewritten for no reason.
>>343594203
Its also because some things don't translate well. 'Aniki' being translated as 'Bro' makes me cringe every time. Its normal Japanese speech that doesn't have an equivalency in English.
>>343594597
Play the roms. They actually have better translations and less bugs. Even if you don't care about the crazy dialects, the android versions crash on many systems. And its not worth paying them for a bad port. Just like its not worth buying a lot of the FF ports on Steam which run worse than the original games.
>>343594771
> the problem is when things like character names or dialogue gets completely rewritten for no reason.
Yeah, that shit's inexcusable. There are times where name changes are perfectly reasonable, but most of the changes in DQ are anything but that. Plus Alpha told me before that Meena and Maya are actual Indian names, so that's why they changed them from Minea and Manya, but that doesn't really fly since it takes place in a fantasy world, and there are already characters with crazy names like Balzack.
>>343592802
>>343595201
>Balzack
That's actually a real French surname
>>343595413
Well fuck me. I guess I shouldn't talk about names.
>>343595472
I dunno if it's his original Japanese name, but yeah it's not like it's some random joke name they made up at least.
>>343595201
>Flora, Ludman, Papas, basically everyone from Dragon Quest V changed for no reason
>Ludman's entire character rewritten into a terrible italian stereotype
>>343595654
Yeah it is, surprisingly.
What do you think the best skill point distribution for DQVIII is?
Here's my general plan for when I play the 3ds version:
Hero: A bit of courage for zoom, [possibly some point in boomerangs?], then swords until the attack boost, then more courage.
Yangus: Some humanity for heal and other utility skills, fisticuffs for padfoot and thin air, then the rest in axes
Jessica: 3 staves for accelerate, some sex appeal for charm, more staves, then whips
Angelo: Doesn't really matter, he's usually healing or using items for me. I guess staves then swords would be best.
Are spears any good for hero or bows worth using for Angelo?
>>343596540
Spears are great for metal monsters killing and putting the hurt on bosses.
>>343596540
Do not put points in any other weapons than the one type you plan on using.
>>343596540
>Are spears any good for hero or bows worth using for Angelo?
They both work very well for them. Spears in particular work very well for hero since they hit hard and make metal slime hunting much easier
>>343596540
>Hero
Courage for Squelch + Zoom -> Swords -> Courage -> Spears
You can dump a few points in Spears early for Metal Slime hunting if you want, but Falcon Blade + Metal Slash gets the job done almost as well while still progressing towards shit you want. Putting points in Boomerangs is useless since they already do their job just fine by default.
>Yangus
Axes for Helm Splitter -> Humanity for Padfoot -> Fisticuffs for Thin Air -> Max Axes and Humanity
Self explanatory, Clubs and Scythes suck.
>Jessica
Whips until Twin Dragon Lash -> Staves until Magic Barrier -> Whips until the last Attack boost -> Fisticuffs for the Evasion boost
Sex Appeal isn't really worth it, Charm Attack doesn't go off anywhere near as often as the wiki says it does at least, and Hustle Dance is way too late to be useful since you'll just have a Sage Stone or two for endgame. Puff Puff is amusing but Kasnooze already gets the job done. Daggers just plain suck.
>Angelo
Staff until Bounce -> Bow until Shining Shot -> Fisticuffs until Evasion Up -> Staves until Oomph -> Swords until Metal Slash, and Charisma until Divine Intervention
Bow is way better as his main weapon because Seraph Shot is infinite free MP. The rest is focusing on utility.
>>343593283
Eito is an actual japanese name so Eight makes a bit more sense as a name in JP land.
>>343596540
Hero: Spears (100), Swords (28), Boomerangs (12), Courage (100)
Yangus: Fisticuffs (40), Axes (82), Humanity (100)
Jessica: Knives (40), Whips (66), Staves (13), Sex Appeal (66)
Angelo: Swords (82), Staves (32), Charisma (82)
>>343597204
Is it really? I've never come across that name anywhere.
>>343597380
Nope. Can't find anyone with that name.
>>343597380
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eito_Yasutoko
there's this guy, at the very least. I don't think it's too common of a name
>>343597143
Oh I meant to add to Jessica after Fisticuffs, max Staves for Kazing. You probably won't need it often but it doesn't hurt.
>>343575623
whats going on here?
>>343577414
- fighting random battles
if i can come up with a fun strategy 8/10 otherwise 3/10
- fighting boss battles
10/10 always interesting to see what moves they pull off even better if it takes out the healer and i gotta end it quickly
- exploring the overworld
1/10 ranges from boring to annoying walking/sailing far away only to find out you need a key or other item to advance, even worst when there is nothing and you just wasted your time.
- exploring dungeons
8/10 fun to get treasures and figure out the maze
- ransacking towns
7/10 interesting but not the reason i play DQ
- viewing cutscenes
completely subjective to the story/characters
>>343577414
10/10
10/10
10/10
10/10
10/10
10/10
>>343597558
Well what do you know. I searched in Japanese Wikipedia but didn't come up with anything, nor from a Google search. It's either extremely uncommon, or that's not his real name. In any case, it seems it can indeed be used for a name.
>>343592729
>VI- no official name
Reck
I like Alena. Easily my favorite DQ girl.
>>343598812
she is great
>Dragon Quest X has multiplayer Parcheesi
>You will never play it
>>343599037
Super strong and fast too
>>343600432
Because.
>>343597143
>Bow is way better as his main weapon because Seraph Shot is infinite free MP.
Going Bows for Angelo seems to be common advice but in my experience it's a weak half-measure between the damage of Swords and the incredible freedom of Staves. I like full Staves (+ Charisma) because by the time Angelo gets MP recovery (free MP every single round) stacked on top of +70mp, you basically learn to ignore his MP and cast anything you feel like. Heals, Oomph, Kaswoosh, Thwack, Kabuff, whatever you like all damn day long. It's fantastic.
>>343601264
Shining Shot is fucking fantastic, and as long as you're spamming Seraph Shot on turns where he doesn't have to cast anything it's more effective than MP Regen by endgame since it's based on the damage done with the attack. With his best bow that means you're getting like 15 MP back a shot.
You could keep going down Staves instead of touching Charisma at all if you want, you already go most of the way into Staves by the time you get Oomph. Squelch and Divine Intervention are pretty much the only useful abilities there. Ban Dance and Chilling Chuckle are absurdly situational (Are there even any bosses that dance? There's barely any that Psyche Up) and Pearly Gates is redundant as fuck once you have Shining Shot.
Swords are useless for everything but Metal Hunting since Angelo's not around to do damage
Just beat III and starting I-II on sfc/snes, any advice?
>>343601728
Ever played them before? Be prepared to grind a LOT.
>>343597324
>she has to invest points into sex appeal
>she doesn't instantly start with 100
???
>>343601264
By the time you get the ability to drain MP, Angelo already has 300+ MP. And late game, its totally useless. Swords end up being better like you said.
>>343601728
>any advice?
Don't activate the bugs in II.
>>343601728
DQ1: Walking over a bridge means the enemies are gonna tear your ass to shreds unless you're sufficiently prepared (aka grinded) enough
DQ2: Have fun getting fucking lost
>>343601815
She has a sexy body, but does she know how to use it? Sex appeal helps with that.
>>343601815
Sex appeal is different from being sexy. Its her learning how to use it. There's plenty of girls who are sexy, but don't know how to abuse it to their advantage.
>>343601728
Play the Super Famicom versions for better resolution and cleaner interface. And don't feel bad about using a guide to find the seals in DQII. That's about it. The rest is pretty simple. Level if enemies are too strong and talk to every NPC.
>>343601857
He gets Cherub's Arrow at 18 points into Bows dude. It upgrades to Seraph's Arrow at 66. Staff doesn't get MP Recovery until 100 Points, although it does get Drain Magic at 12 points not everything has MP to drain. The +50 MP isn't super useful either since you lose it as soon as you switch to a different weapon, and Angelo's MP is already naturally really high.
Swords don't help Angelo in his support role in any way, give him a good bow and load his inventory with staves to cover a few spells he doesn't have and you're golden.
How come there's never a dragon quest general on /vg/? Would it just die?
>>343602634
Probably. You could try making one though, it could become a thing.
>>343602634
it's been tried, it always dies quickly. maybe try it when 7/builders are close to coming out
the /vr/ DQ thread is basically DQ general anyways
>>343602634
There is one, it's on /vr/, where it doesn't die in a day.
>>>/vr/3310165
>>343602138
I'm saying he gets so much MP just with base levels, he doesn't need to use bows or staves. I only put 32 points into staves to get one good spell and max out swords. By level 45 (end game), I already had 500+ MP on him. And even in the early game, I never ran out of MP. Mostly because I used items rather than heal. And rarely needed multiheal since my characters had good gear.
Needing to use MP draw skills might be good for playing the game the first time. But when min/maxing in a second playthrough, bows and staves are not as good as damage. The real problem with Angelo is his only group damage comes from spells. So for 3/4 the game, you're spamming Woosh. I would have been better if he could use boomerangs instead of the hero.
>>343601938
>>343601903
I'm surprised she wouldn't have just picked that up naturally as she grew into it. I mean she's obviously pretty smart she'd notice that people were ogling her and that she could use that to her advantage.
HERO
Sword (4) -> Courage (8) -> Sword (66) -> Courage (100) -> Sword (100)
OR
Courage (8) -> Spear (77) -> Courage (100) -> Spear (100)
OR
Courage (8) -> Spear (77) -> Sword (66) [or is this retarded?]
YANGUS
Axes (6) -> Humanity (10) -> Fisticuffs (42) -> Axes (82) -> Humanity (16) -> whatever
JESSICA
Staves (3) -> Whips (23) -> Staves (31) -> Whips (68) -> Staves (100) -> Sex (16)
OR
Staves (57) -> Sex (16) -> Staves (100) -> Whips (68)
ANGELO
Staves (9) -> Swords (40) -> Staves (100)
OR
Staves (100)
OR
Staves (9) -> Bows (88) -> Staves (100)
Am I missing anything?
>>343604546
I guess, but does she know how to use her body professionally or in combat? That's what sex appeal is for.
>>343604546
Jessica actually seems to be pretty ignorant. She gets confused by almost every guy who hits on her, doesn't even realize the kids in her own town like her and her party chat responses to multiple story events boil down to 'why do people do stupid things when they're in love?'
She seems like a pretty average teenage female. She might realize that guys find her attractive. But she doesn't know how or care to use it. She's really not as developed as a character as the other party members as well. Hell, I'd say Red has more development than she does. Back before she was playable.
>>343603345
>The real problem with Angelo is his only group damage comes from spells
.... Which is why you go Bows for Shining Shot.
>>343605312
Jessica is the beginning of the end for DQ girls.
I can't think of any notable female characters after DQ8.
>>343605576
Possibly because DQ VIII was the last mainline title to have set party members.
>It's been 12 years since the last time DQ had set party members.
Jesus.
>>343605576
Probably because there are only two entries after it, one of which is an MMO and the other one has custom party members. There aren't a lot of DQ girls after Jessica.
>>343605576
Only one I can think of is Aurora, the female MC from Heroes
I liked her honestly
>>343605576
Flurette and the girl from Joker 1 were pretty okay. But like others said, there just isn't many main girls.
>>343606583
>Flurette
I forgot her, She was alright.
>>343606583
dat butt
>>343577414
>fighting random battles
3/10
>fighting boss battles
8/10
>exploring the overworld
9/10
>exploring dungeons
7/10
>ransacking towns
9/10
>viewing cutscenes
8/10
Any nip speakers still here? Was wondering if someone could explain わけありの女, I looked it up, but don't quite understand it. It seems like "More to me than meets the eye"?
>>343604659
Fisticuffs for the Evasion bonus on Angelo and Jessica is really fucking important for the Dragovian Sanctuary
With Dancer's Mail and Phantom Mask, Angelo becomes pretty much immune to physical attacks
>>343609012
I heard somewhere that the evasion bonus skill doesn't actually work.
But that reminds me, Hero (and Angelo since he doesn't have much else to do with skill points) could put points in fisticuffs for Defending Champion.
>>343609405
>I heard somewhere that the evasion bonus skill doesn't actually work.
They definitely, definitely work. You just have to unequip your weapons for it to kick in since it's Fisticuffs only, like the weapon specific attack bonuses. Which is fine since Angelo and Jessica spend a lot of turns in boss fights just casting spells anyways.
>>343609405
Defending Champion is alright, I got it on my first run but never had much of a reason to use it. On later replays I just maxed out Swords -> Courage -> Spears first on Hero before I did anything with Fisticuffs on him.
>>343571953
Then why wasn't it Mari and Nara?
>>343608695
「訳ありとは、特別な事情があること、ありそうなこと。」
in this case it means the woman has special circumstances (your interpretation fits as well)
>>343609886
Thanks.
>>343590940
Came here just to post this.
Robert Murrow if you're here you're the savior of the GOP and you are my role model.
Anyone thoughts on heroes? Is it worth?
>>343610243
Enjoyable gameplay, lots of series fanservice
side quest system sucks and the tower defense missions may or may not be your cup of tea
I'd say worth it all in all
>>343610243
It caters entirely to fans of the series. If you played the past DQ games, you'll love all the monster and character references. If not, then it'll just seem like a weak musou.
>>343610243
Eh, it's solid enough. I got about 50 hours out of it.
what's going on in this thread?
>>343611276
Leave my wife alone, asshole
>>343611276
Oh, hello sir horse. Lovely day today, isn't it?
>>343612420
I like that piercing
Just waiting for DQ 11, even learned nip so I can play it when it releases.
>>343612769
Navel piercings are some of the hottest things ever. Doubly so for something cute like a heart or star.
>>343613450
They sure are. I've never seen a triple stud like that before, very hot.
Nobody will ever have as much horseporn as Bianca.
Makes me glad to be Florafag.
>>343613709
There's so many different ways to do piercings, it's hard to find them done the same way often if it's not common styles.
>>343613450
>>343612769
I love them she doesn't seem like the type of girl to get one desu
>>343614150
Of course, even the basic ring or stud is amazing.
>>343614314
I think the implication in that pic is that she was forcefully pierced, I don't think it was consensual.
>>343614314
Yeah, and she got that bull-head tat by her own choice too.
>>343614420
Not as big a fan of putting a ring on the navel. One with a little dangle is perfection on the belly button.And a little nose ring does funny things to me.
Which Dragon Quest is the best? Where do I start?
>>343614734
I like the ones with small chains that dangle a bit too. Especially when the girl leans over a bit and the chains hang down. Such a delicious sight.
>>343614975
IV or V. They're quintessential Dragon Quest. Play the DS remakes if you can.
>>343615084
I'd love to see a pic of that, but it must be a rare thing to draw them hanging while she leans, since I've seen none. I'd love to post some other piercings, but blue boards.
>>343577414
- fighting random battles
5, it is so ingrained into rpgs there is no changing it really
- fighting boss battles
8
- exploring the overworld
9, depending on how open it is
- exploring dungeons
- ransacking towns
Almost never happens in rpgs, but a 10
- viewing cutscenes
4, they can be good depending on length
>>343615296
Yeah it's usually in 3D stuff. I haven't seen it drawn at all. Oh well. The world of piercings is amazingly deep.
What the...
It's official, I think I love DQ series now
>>343615483
I fucked it,
>Exploring dungeons
Can be a 10, I really like tower type dungeons, but am indifferent to cave dungeons in dq
>>343615567
What, the grandson of the Dragon Lord?
Pree chill compared to his grandfather
>>343609479
>Which is fine since Angelo and Jessica spend a lot of turns in boss fights just casting spells anyways.
That's bullshit. Twin Dragon Slash >>>>>> anything else
Bow >>> Anything else Angelo can use.
Those are pretty much the canon weapons for both of them as well.
What's the best Dragon Quest to start playing as someone who never touched the series? Is there any similarities to chrono trigger apart from the artstyle?
>>343616131
IV or V, and no not really
>>343615509
Sometimes I wish the nips weren't so obsessed with overly/unrealistically pure girls in their games. It would be fantastic to have a character that canonically has a piercing on the team.
>>343615509
You're only limited by whatever space you have on someone's body.
>>343616258
Totally agree. Even mainstream series like Final Fantasy rarely do it, so there's not much hope.
>>343616427
Yup. I even like tongue piercings.
>>343616175
Neato, thanks anon
>>343616820
Never been into tongue piercings quite as much. You never get to see it as much, and I can't help but think how annoying it would be eating or kissing, etc. If I was aiming for the mouth, I'd rather see one of those under lip ones.
>>343617186
I just like tongue piercings because of the imagery of the girl sticking out her tongue with a nice juicy stud in there. My favorite still has to be navel piercings though.
>>343612957
How did you go about learning nip senpai?
>>343617412
Sounds hot for sure. I can learn to like new things. Navel is like, the ubiquitous piercing spot.
