You don't actually think this is good, do you?
>Mom i posted it again!!!
fuck you best game in the series
I do not. I think it has a few incredible and memorable moments, but the actual gameplay is shit. Shit boss fights, repetitive and bland level design, way too much backtracking, literal underwater escort missions, the katana controls sucked.
I like talking about it and seeing some of its shit on youtube, but I'll never play it again.
I played all of them in order, enjoyed mgs2 and five the least
>>343543435
Best game in the series and one of my favorite games of all time.
>le edgy "game within a game" trope high schoolers think of
>"A masterpiece of postmodernism
God I fucking hate this game it's everything wrong with "intellectual" games
>>343543706
>>343543772
pretty much dis
>>343543853
>game within a game
What the fuck?
Confirmed for never playing it
>>343543435
Your shitpost thread is one of the many indicators already that it's the best.
Playing right now, it's fantastic.
>>343543435
I really, really wish it was good. The whole idea of the game is fantastic on paper; but when you have a complete hack like Kojima making it, you just get trash.
i like it because im deep and i like good story over gameplay or design
>>343543787
Really? With all the recycled levels and assets, terrible bosses and awful level design in the form of swimming and escort missions,how could you actually enjoy playing the game?
The story is interesting sure, but the game is awful.
>>343543435
its great
not the best onemgs3 is, fight me faggotbut its a amazing game
no replay vaue once or ever though.
>>343544173
I've replayed it over 7 times
>>343543435
Eh, it's alright, but very problematic and clunky.
Easily the worst MGS game, before 5 came around
Not even sure why, but I found myself enjoying it, even though I don't consider it that great, apart from the story. And occasionally I start to think if the story could've been better brought out through a different kind of a game, or even a different medium. When mixed with the usual Kojima-shit, it sometimes feels like a mess.
But like I said, even after a whole decade, still enjoying it.
Plus
>MGS 2 European Extreme
Talk about rip 'n tear if you haven't played in a while.
>>343544423
>very problematic
I don't understand.
>>343544276
me too
every single time was the same game.
i mean, nothing "changes" between games
>>343543953
"lol Raiden is the player"
"lol simulation"
"lol I guess that makes us Postmodern?!?!?!"
>>343543435
Of course not. I think it'sgreat
>>343544993
That's not a game within a game, it's acknowledging the player's existence within the game, while keeping what's real and not deliberately ambiguous
The story is amazing but in terms of gameplay it's easily the worst in the series, right next to V.
>>343544964
apart from your understanding of the game and your relationship to it
which is why it's such a masterpiece
if it had some of the more "open" elements of mgs3 it would be the best game of all time without a doubt
>>343545165
lol so postmodern
totally not something I wrote when I was a Junior in high school
>>343545269
Do you even have a point you fucking retard? A game within a game is playing fucking roulette in new vegas or san andreas, MGS2 does a different thing
Mother did it first though.
60fps on PS2
MGS was the only good game in the series
MGS3 would have been good if the menus were slightly faster
>>343545412
>MGS2 does a different thing
>Mother did it first though.
lol both are postmodern masterpieces for sure amirite
gaming is such high art
MGS is so good guys
>>343545480
I never said that they were post modern masterpieces, I said that they acknowledge the player's existence directly, and that your game within a game comment proves you didn't get it and just threw shit at a wall to see what sticks
>>343545457
Still looks pretty good.
>>343543702
gameplay wise, that would be V
>>343543435
It's my favorite of the seriesbut 1 and 3 are really good too.
>>343546941
V has great mechanics but the game itself is terrible. It should be a crime to put such good mechanics in such a shitty game.
>>343547021
This. I will call you my brother if anyone of those is one of your favorites.
>>343547320
BROOTHAA
>>343547421
LIQUID
>>343543435
it's the best mgs gamethat doesn't mean it's particularly good, though
>>343547660
SSSSNAKE
>>343544158
swimming and escort missions literally make up 10 minutes of the game
>>343547929
>Story is subordinate
>Original and unique
>Sublime/Often profound
>Stands on its own merit
Excellent bait
Too many fucking codec calls jesus christ.
That being said it's my second favorite behind 3.
>>343547215
Less story focus does not mean the game is bad
>>343548169
That's still 20% of the game, mind
>>343548057
FOX
>>343543435
Of course not. It's amazing.
>>343548484
OCELOT
>>343543435
MGS2 is one of the most artistic video games ever created.
only thing I didnt like was not having the sword from the start
>>343545680
Most MGS2 haters are usually too plebeian to understand it, so don't be surprised.
I love how his argument is seeing what makes MGS2 clever and thinking he can undermine it by saying 'lolol so postmodern'
>>343543435
OF COURSH
Read some Japanese literature and you'll realize as a culture they are flat out dumb, they perceive things like friendship, light and dark (this comes up in MGS4), and willpower to be physical forces in the world because they're too retarded to understand abstract concepts.
>>343543702
This.
I don't get how "change your camo every four steps simulator" is thought of as the best. It's really good and that title I gave it is very exaggerated, but 2's just better.
>>343552738
You can literally play all of MGS3 with the Leaf camo in jungle areas and the splitter camo in base, people need to stop overexaggerating MGS3's menu problems.
>>343543435
It's the greatest game ever made, anon.
