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Luna is best girl, Diana is a weak human.
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Luna doesn't have qt red stockings
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First for Akane "really hot" Kurashiki
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Good job not including zero time dilemma in the OP, fuckface
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Mentioning something from last thread, do you think when Junpei dies Akane just gives up on that timeline? That's what it seemed like to me.
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>>343526552
>Carlos 'I was merely pretending' Nolastname
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>>343526580
She knows that she needs him for the AB game.
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>>343526579
>push it
>crying naked in the shower
>not amazing
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Make Akane Great Again
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>>343526685
She's not THAT good of an actress.
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Why is Phi so cute in this game?
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>>343526690
IS NOTHING SAFE
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>Zero Escape 4 gets made
>Blick Winkel is the fanatic
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>>343526673
>Nolastname
A man like Carlos needs no last name.
He is simply "Carlos". Not unlike Moses.
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>>343526580
Looks like it
When Junpei dies and Carlos sudokus, she just wordlessly opens the X-Door and leaves
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>>343526831
Cup D boobs
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>>343526891
I can believe it, we're the ones that want a different ending anyway
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>>343526579
It's like you can't act all moe and ditzy in front of the guy you've been dying to fuck for years without people hating on you.
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I WAS PROMISED SWIMSUIT ACTION

WHERE WAS THE SWIMSUIT ACTION?
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>>343527078
didn't you see moe akane
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Threadly reminder.
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Reposted from last thread:
>Okay guys, all 3 of us and team D is still alive. What do we do now?
>How about we let that nuclear reactor explode so that we can leave this timeline and go to another one where also one team is dead?
>ok lol

Bonus:
Several (gameplay) hours later (SPOILER)
>can we really justify shifting into another timeline knowing that some other version of ourselves are going to die as a result?!?!
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>>343527153
the sad thing is that he literally needed two more twists to fix the game

>delta is religious fanatic
>kyle is gab
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>>343526768
she is beauty
she is grace
she is gonna smash your face
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>>343527316
When that thing brought up, I was sure that would be the main thematic thinking.
I was hoping that Uchi can come up something that can give all timeline a happy ending.
In the end, what we got is pic related.
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Now announcing...the current casualties.
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>>343527153
He can be necessary even without being at the facility.
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>>343527375
To be fair: The reactor shift into a timeline where they would have died regardless. (the not 1-1-1 dice roll). You could even argue that dying by an explosion is better than getting torn into bits by guns.
But the fact that they killed Team D with the explosion is pretty BS.
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>>343526768
Akane toy for sale when?
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>>343527637
>I was hoping that Uchi can come up something that can give all timeline a happy ending.

doesn't this sort of happen in the final file where they go back in time preventing Mira from killing people?
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>>343527153
Maybe kyle was the quantum computer
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>>343527778
Then why did Akane save herself in 999? Would she stop existing if she didn't save herself? That's what Uchikoshi lead us to believe in the Q&A when he said that her sickness was you traveling down the timeline where you don't save her.
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do you think anyone reached this scene and didnt know who zero is?
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>>343526361
Don't talk shit about Luna's mom.
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NOW HOL' UP

Q was there for DCOM, right? But then who FLIPPED THE COIN?
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>>343527842
Eric toy with kung fu brat choking action when?
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If Junpei is so smart, why didn't he go into the ZTD AB game saying "Hey, we should both pick betray. We have nothing to lose if we both pick betray, and if you pick ally, you're only killing yourself. Pick betray carlos you dumbass"
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>>343528007
Q did and nobody noticed he wasn't in the cell because nobody gives a fuck about an old cunt who can't hear or see and they were all hoping his resource-wasting ass was already dead.
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>>343528007
He wasn't there during the coin flip.
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>>343527940
I guess they do have to recreate the timelines then.
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>>343528007
I guess he wasn't in the cell?
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>>343528007
no q wasnt there. Carlos found out there who zero is.
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found this gem on tumblr and laughed for a good 5 minutes straight
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>>343528110
Carlos actually did if I remember right. He says something to the effect of "I know, you're-" because he notices Delta isn't among them.
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>>343527930
wouldn't that stop phi from being born though

>>343528104
because then they'd be stuck there forever
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>>343527078
>Sigma never did get to see his daughter in a swimsuit

Maybe during the family beach trip
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>>343527930
Doesn't give everyone a happy ending.
The following happened to the winners of the dice roll (from Akane's perspective)
>win dice roll
>suddenly Carlos and Junpei switch personality
>Suddenly you wake up and dead Carlos and Junpei lie in front of you

From Carlos/Junpei:
>win dice roll
>suddenly you are standing in front of Akane and get shot in the back.
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>>343528007
Yea he was, as Zero of course.
Carlos realized at the last second tho.
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>>343528264
What? Does Zero ever state "If you both pick betray, you'll be stuck there forever"?
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>>343528203
>there were no cat jokes from sigma
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>>343528203
Sigma's "what I got" needs some buttons, but everything else is absolutely perfect
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>>343528332
there was
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>999 Akane
Junpei is cute, I'm scared, I don't know what's going on. Actually I did, I'm the mastermind. Goodbye Junpei my goals are too important, please understand.

>VLR Akane
My goals are more important than you Junpei. I have really nothing to say to you. I'm trying to create a timeline we can be together in. Please understand.

>ZTD Akane
YOU KILLED JUNPEI *smash* WHO KILLED JUNPEI WHY IS JUNPEI DEAD!?!? I LOVE JUNPEI MORE THAN ANYTHING, WHY ARE YOU DIFFERENT JUNPEI *chops up Carlos with a chainsaw* JUNPEI!?!? OOGA BOOGA
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>>343528332
There was one.
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>>343528203
I forgot about Space Pirate Sigma
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>>343528203
There's room for growth. Pic related for Phi for example
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>>343528332
He makes puns during the shower room escape puzzle. He does it twice when you open one of the lockers
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>>343528203
that's really bad
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>>343528436
Twice is not enough.
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>>343528412
That's what happens when you're not in charge of everyone's life this time around
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>>343527043
What does a moon have to do with it?
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>>343526768
So moe!
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>>343528330
The door doesn't open until someone has nine points.

If they both pick betray, then they can't leave. They'll play the AB game over and over until someone allies. It's the same thing in VLR.
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So tell me again mr complex motives, why does the blue button exist at all?
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>>343528396
>>343528424
>>343528436
at least I caught funyarinpa ;_;
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>>343528583
For laughs.
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>>343528583
these motives man, theyre just too complex for you , you wouldnt understand...
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>>343528583
Pretty much for shits and giggles.
Remember that he was also curious about the decisions they would make and the branching that happens as a result.
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>>343528583
Push iiiiit
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[/spoiler]
>Diana pressed the blue button,rigged the votation, pressed the acid button and the whole incinerator gun thing, WHOOPS.
>Akane went yandere everytime she could to carlos.
>Carlos pressed the acid button, rigged the votation and picked betray once killing 3, killed akane with is own hands with an axe.
>Junpei hitted betray , sent carlos to suicide with him in the rec room,
>Sean rigged the votation once, pressed acid button
>Eric went full psicho.
>Mira is Mira.
Meanwhile sigma was literally fucking and phi being irrelevant to the whole thing, the only thing she did was being born
[/spoiler]
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>>343528583
>there's a timeline where I get to hilariously watch my family blow themselves up
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Did anyone else get a boner for PHI-SAMA DA?
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>>343528583
To show how biased Zero was against C-Team. I mean come on they got don't press a button vs 1 oxygen mask only and roll all 1's in dice or get turned into swiss cheese
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I heard that to get true ending I need to do every single route which is fine but does that also mean that I have to go through every single decision game? I don´t want to go through the showers scenes again just to choose ending where two other teams die. It would be tiresome and in cutscenes like that nothing changes except for the surviving team. Please tell me I don´t need to 100% the flowchart
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>>343528542
I agree fully with you on that however
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>>343528785
what
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Why are you guys using the word "paradox" to describe Delta existing? I don't think the word means what you think it means.
A "paradox" is something that can't be true, yet must be true. For example, in the grandfather paradox, if I go back in time and kill my own grandfather, I can't exist, yet I must exist, because I have to go back in time and kill my grandfather in order for me not to exist. Therefore, my existence is paradoxical.
In this bootstrap "paradox" (not actually a paradox), Delta must exist in order for himself to exist, and quite clearly does exist. Therefore, there is no paradox, no contradiction.
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>>343528815
You don't need to 100% the flowchart.
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https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/driver-flips-car-after-sliding-on-snail-slime/69576

Are we in the history that God abandoned?
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>>343528789
>c-team
>blue button
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>>343528815
I considered lying to you just now but no, you don't have to 100% the chart, just the choices that change things, but guess what, you have no way of knowing which those are

Don't worry, though, the ones that don't matter are generally very short, you don't have to redo any escape rooms, just decisions which are very quick with the skip
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>>343528815
You can turn on skip text
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>>343528781
Do I remember wrong or there was a room in VLR with a giant button too?
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>>343528412
akane did nothing wrong
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>>343528815
I'm pretty sure that you need to do that. But there's barely no downside because you just pick the decision part in the flowchart, skip the cutscene and choose the other choice.
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>>343528957
it's amazing how well this works

>i'm trying

everytime
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>>343528985
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>>343528785
>tfw Sigma didn't at least retort with Phi-chan
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>>343528985
Mother fucker
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>>343528937
People use words they LITERALLY dont know the meaning of, whyre you surprised?
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>>343528957
I'm in tears
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>>343526361

fuck
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>>343528007
He wasn't there. They didn't remember because they were given that amnesia drug
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>>343529043
There are like 3 rooms (bar, maintenance, lirbary) in the beginning of ZTD that are ripped straight from VLR. They even share similar themes. Suits of armor used as weapons, Secret bomb in the floor in maintenance, and elevator chair and that puzzle pylon thing in the lirbary.

There's a bunch of 999 references too but not as blatant I think.
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>>343528957
christ my sides
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>>343528985
Well fuck. What can we do to stop 6 billion in the next 12 years?
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>>343528937
I think it's because the concept of a closed loop is still somewhat paradoxical. It's not that Delta's existence is explicitly paradoxical, it's just that there doesn't appear to be any proper genesis point. Like how Phi got her name because Sigma knew Phi.
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>>343529267
Because Delta mind hacked Sigma at birth and ripped off his ideas
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>>343528412
>>343526953
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>>343528937
The paradox here, is that the something was created from nothing. Take the bootstrap paradox for Phi's Brooch. Who created it? It must've been created at some point. But nope, it just always was. But this can't possibly be the truth. Spacetime doesn't just plop out with things that are humanly constructed, like a brooch.
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>999 and VLR never had good material to work off of for doujin plots
>Team C is literally rape, Junpei hitting on Carlos, Junpei getting drunk, etc
>tfw you could have god tier 3-way doujins or even Junpei trying to convince Carlos to fuck him because he's drunk, lonely, and desperate
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>>343526361
Diana or Luna /v/?
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>>343528985
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>>343529464
Luna cosplaying as Diana
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>>343529464
>girl who took a bullet for me or girl who put a bullet in me
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>>343529464
Diana.
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>>343528412
For once, June isn't the mastermind, so she's vulnerable.
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Just finished ZTD.

I have a huge crush on Carlos. I thought he'd be Dio 2.0 but hes so pure and sweet. I want to hold him for hours.

Boss Phi is cool too.
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>>343527960
I get Q not having red blood, but shouldn't there be white blood around him, not just nothing?
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>>343529464
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Finished it last night, pretty good. I'm sad to say it was my first Zero Escape game, so I felt like the stuff with Junpei, Akane, Sigma and Phi were lost on me, but otherwise it was a pretty great ride. I'll be honest, when I had to call out who Zero really was I was heading into the choice like "Fucking shit I have no clue oh fuck" and then the answer just came to me in a split second, like an epiphany. Made me chuckle considering all the SHIFTing talk.

Green team was pretty boring aside from the kid.
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Luna is a shit!

A shit!

does she even have a fuckhole?
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>>343529464
>Take Diana
>Create Luna
porque no los dos
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>>343529393
But... why does there need to be? You can claim there's no clear causality, but where's the causality in rolling a 1 on a 6-sided die? It just is. She could have been named Omicron just as easily as I could have rolled a 2. And there probably are universes where she is named Omicron. Just like there are universes where Delta doesn't exist and doesn't have to exist.
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>>343529587
A really, really small pool of white liquid.
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>>343529665
>it was my first
You fucked up so bad.
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>>343529665
Leave and play 999 then VLR and try to salvage what you can from them.
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>>343529585
Carlos was easily the best part about ZTD.

I really liked Phi, it's a shame she barely does anything. She dies in most of the timelines, so you hardly see her.
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Friendly reminder it's happening
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>>343529267
well the space station was supposed to prepare them for the "real mission" and I am sure they said it was based on the bomb shelter

or maybe I am just making shit up, I don't know
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Fuck I'm stuck in the locker room at the door of truth since the other fragments are now inaccessible. And I don't know the passcode. What do?
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>>343528985
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>>343529838
>Before we start, I'm going to assume everyone here has beaten ZTD
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>>343529838
I fucking hope that they announce a sequel. They know that they fucked up
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>>343529665
You should go back and play them. I liked ZTD but it's by far the weakest in the series.
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>>343529665
You missed out so much.
Go play the previous series now before someone spoil that Akane and Sigma are Zero in 999 and VLR respectively.
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>>343529838
3rd person shooter where you destroy Free the Nipple's HQ confirmed
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>>343528985
You fucked up
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>>343529665
To be fair, ZTD kind of ignores most of the things introduced in the previous games. It would have been better to play 999 and VLR first, but honestly ZTD drops so many concepts that you don't really need to play them.
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>>343529464
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>>343529907
>sequel is an FPS with carlos
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>>343527960
I answered Snake, Light, Santa and Aoi before going back to see what I was missing.
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>>343529869
"Back" or enter it wrong thrice.
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>>343529838
I don't mind if they go full Danganropna V3 on us and start with a new story
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>>343520983
>Akane is all Akanes at once.
>There is only 'Akane', not Akane at different points.

Please stop this meme. Literally the point of VLR and ZTD in order for an esper to travel to other timeline is to swap with his/her other timeline's consciousness.
The reason Akane in ZTD knows that there will be virus outbreak and had plan to counter it is because she got vision from morphogenetic field, not because she's the old Akane from VLR who travel back to the past.
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>>343529838
I told you this wasn't the last game. I TOLD YOU SO.
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>>343529907
>Announcing a sequel within less than a week after release
You don't know how business work, do you?
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>>343529707
>Implying Sigma would cuck himself out of his waifu
Luna has a free 18 inch emptiness in her waiting to be filled.
And this time, it's pure
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>>343529869
Have you:
Played the AB game (C-team)?
Rolled 3 1's? (C-team)?
Survived after Eric tried to kill you for killing Mira (Q-team)?
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>>343528985
>Even the date is close
Holy sheeeeet
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>>343529970
>Eric school shooter DLC
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>>343529990
Thank you i love you :))))
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>>343529838
Would you guys want ZE4 or a spiritual successor?
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>>343530073
DAMN BRATS
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>>343529952
Yeah. I really thought I'd have to sit through another 20min monologue on Time's Arrow when you constructed the key in the library.
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>>343529970
>takes place right after the ending
>only option is to shoot Zero
>Carlos vs Mind Hacking
>chase him around the world
>ends with a fight on the moon wear Carlos wears a space suit/firefighter outfit
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>>343529621
>>343529969
SHUT UP DIANA IS PURE
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>>343529869
Have you answered the question "Who killed Mira" correctly?
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daily reminder that Rebecca is Lotus
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>>343530094

A retry of ZTD
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>>343529869
Watch Q-team's execution. Make Carlos push the acid button. Do "the stranded pair" fragment, which is underneath the one where Sigma and Diana jump.
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>>343530148
lotus wasn't a nurse
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Man, there weren't a lot of new tracks. It was more like "Greatist Hits" where I just listen to 999 and VLR tracks with a few new ones in between.

People are angry about the plot but I'm more angry about this shit.
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>>343529749
It's not that there needs to be, it's just that its a strange thing to try to wrap your head around, that their reasons for existing is because the exist in the future, its the opposite of how its usually supposed to work. Plus, it doesn't seem possible for the loop to start, because Delta is required to run the Decision Game which leads to his own birth. His existence in the past is dependent on him existing in the future: its a tautology.

Again, it's not as though there needs to be an answer to the question of how it started, nor am I saying that you're wrong, I'm just explaining why a lot of people may describe his existence as paradoxical.
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>>343530094
I want a new trilogy that ties in with ZE in the end. It could feature young Delta and Left.
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>>343530026
I thought it was because Sigma told her.
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>>343530148
Except Lotus's name is Hazuki and she worked with computers when she wasn't belly dancing or taking care of her kids
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Has ZTD sold well?
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>>343530073
>Eric and Mira's Happy Homicidal Adventures
>Just Keep Smiling Kids!
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So uhh, I think I'm stuck?

Got through all the scenes and there's nothing new showing up and I don't think I have the answer for any of the locks (force quit boxes, door of truth). The only thing I can think of is the mother's mementos but just the brooch.
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>>343530302
I played the pirated copy and finished it because it leaked early

The game was so bad I don't think I'm gonna buy it.
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>>343530251
I was fucking mad how they overused Blue Bird Lamentation. In VLR it was saved for the most emotional scene, yet here they use it as the generic D-team drama music, which ends abruptly and is replaced by some generic tension music.
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What did he mean by this?
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What happens in the ending where everyone is dead but Sigma and Diana, and they go out to call for help
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>>343530378
roll the dice
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>>343530378
You're missing a decision outcome
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>>343526361

Why does anime always look so bland and ugly?
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>>343529838
I hope whoever created this game never talked to the danganronpa guy ever again. both games endings are pure shit.
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>>343530378
Did you answer "who killed mira?"
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>>343530378
You haven't done the dice yet, it's pretty important.
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how do i retrieve the coin from the incinerator room? no matter what i do it won't come off
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>>343530251
Nigger, give the dev a break.
The game was clearly made with low budget.
Just be thankful of what we got for fucks sake.
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>>343530430

It should have only been used for Stranded Pair and FQB-D
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>>343530448
His 18 inches.
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>>343530430
Blue Bird Lamentation is played at least half a dozen times throughout VLR. The clearest case I can remember is when Tenmyouji is describing what happened with Radical-6 after they realize they're on the moon in the true ending
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>>343530449
Well, nuclear war I guess?
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>>343530302
http://steamspy.com/app/311240

The number on steam is pretty bad.

>VA-11 HALL-A sold better
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>>343526891
>>343526960

That... actually wouldn't be that bad of a plot. It would make sense on a meta-level.
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>>343530430
>In VLR it was saved for the most emotional scene
It's used quite a few times in VLR as well, not just Luna End.
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Some questions, though they're intentionally ambiguous because they're never explicitly shown, so you guys are probably in the same boat as me

How did Carlos figure out about Delta and kill him in the timeline where he did

Why did Delta kill Mira anyway

Why did he mutilate Junpei

Whats with the shit with Akane and Junpei in the costumes in April? Set up for previous games?

I get Zero could Mind Hack, but it still feels like he's too omnipotent. Like how the hell would he know about his birthday to put on the door if he doesn't seem to be in that timeline when they're born.

How come nobody referenced him at all before you figure out he's there? I get that the player shouldn't know he's there until that choice, but it still feels like it almost came out of left field. Though maybe my ordering of fragments lended me to that option.
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If zero wanted to save the world then why did he send Dio to blow up the moonbase in VLR?
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>>343530551
you have to use phi in the other room
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>>343530672
Ah, I actually didn't remember that. Well, I'm retarded
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>>343530647
i dont know, it was on the topseller list during the summer sale
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>Carlos busts in to save C-team, reveals he's waited 10 months for this moment
>Akane: Carlos, why didn't you just stop Zero's plan?
>Carlos: Because....then I wouldn't have met you guys. (yes, fuckin finally got to say it, you nailed it bud)
>Junpei and Akane: You asshole, you fucking idiot, the world is doomed thanks to you, piece of shit
>Carlos: D:
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LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT ABOUT ERIC'S PAST:

>happy life with mom, dad, Chris and Eric
>mom goes jogging one day, goes down a new road
>kid with a knife easily over powers her, rips out her heart (somehow), and never gets caught (somehow)
>dad turns into abusive drunk
>dad fucks Chris in the shower
>Eric watches
>Dad kills Chris
>Eric drags the body to the lake under Dad's orders and dumps it
>neither ever get caught (somehow)

Moral of the story, in this universe most violent crimes go unpunished for some reason and a serial killer can exist, uncaught, since childhood.
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>>343530647
thats pretty bad. that only makes pc market less viable for chunsoft
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>>343530551
send the torch to Phi and use it on the thermometer
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Guys
Guys
English dub has different true ending
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>>343530448
>>343530586
FOLDED
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>>343530769
>Santa
>Maria
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>>343530647
va-11 hall-a is also way cheaper, and the number doesnt account for 3ds/vita sales. Its not great but it's not the full number either.
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>>343530601
No I'm pretty sure it only played on that scene and Luna's path (which was like twice). ZTD played on D-team almost every time there's an emotional scene
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>>343530467
>>343530478
>>343530541


Huh, shit, it worked now. I had done that twice already but I guess I needed to unlock something else to to get the three 1s.
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>>343529464
>hard and cold steel vs soft and warm flesh
Gee I dunno
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>There are people who bought the Steam game because their 3DS version from Amazon was delayed.
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>>343530030
It's the last ZE game I'll play. Fuck Uchi.
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>>343530551
You have to look at the wall of drinks from the right side.
You can see a bottle of water from the front, but you can only pick it up when you're looking at the right.

ZTD is the worst at this shit.
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>no scene where the female voice on the intercom bugs out
>SIGGYYYY... PHIDOOOOO
>Looks like you're in a harey situation

Missed opportunity.
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>>343530806
police are incompetent
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>>343530647
meme games usually do better
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>>343530852
SEND HELP
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>>343530898
It's rigged to give you all 1s after 3 attempts
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Delta:
>"I did this so all of you would get into a mindset where you want to find the bomber that will destroy the world"
>IMPLYING THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO OTHERWISE
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>>343526579
i like alice
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>muh complexity

why not just transport yourself to the event of the snail and prevent it?
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>>343530806
I didn't think Eric's Mom was the one who was jogging and died, but I guess that sort of makes sense. Don't know where you got the rape though.
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>>343530762
I actually don't remember that very well, but wasn't Dio following Left's orders?

Also, it could be possible that Brother did that in order to help Sigma and Phi come to terms with their abilities by exposing them to danger.
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>>343531061
complex
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>>343531027
is it possible to get it before then? I know other stuff is random too like the monty hall puzzle
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>>343530978
Imagine how much that would trigger Sigma.
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>>343530632
Yeah, but what about Diana and Sigma specifically, do they just live together until they both die?
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>>343531215
Do you mean the VLR ending or the babby ending?
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>>343531172
No. You will always get it at the third try.
Akane will mentions it later.
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>>343526960
>They intentionally made the game bad so ZE4 would make sense
>Truth is invisible
>They've been hiding the real sales numbers the whole time
>Zero escape is actually extremely profitable and high budget
>They played us like a fiddle the whole entire time
>Uchikoshi later reveals that he got the idea for writing Zero Escape after he passed a snail on his walk to work
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>>343531128
this is actually what i was hoping would be the whole fucking point of the game. i mean not delta going back cause he cant but instead we send back like mira so she doesnt kill that woman and everybody ends up happy.

like fuck everyone had bad shit happen to them because of that right? she killed erics mother, akanes dad was wrongly accused, sean died so delta was pissed about that
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how would a dog do it?
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>>343530746

I do know this: Some scenes you will see blood that doesn't belong to the others when they all die. The best example is when Q Team dies, Mira and Eric have blood, Q won't and then you will see a 3rd blood splat in the corner, that is in reference to Delta.

>When you shoot Delta in the 3 way standoff
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>>343531321
she was strangled
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>>343531215
I assume you haven't played VLR?
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>>343531265
Neither, it's the ending where everyone else dies (incl Phi) but them, and they leave through th X door together
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>>343530746
1.) He didn't kill Delta, but he was able to use the field to transmit information to himself and he did shift with everyone.

2.) Mira was the root cause of Sean's death, which made Delta angry at her.

3.) Mira did it, not him

5.) All he has to do is access Carlos, Akane, or Sigma. Just the latter 2 would give a wealth of information on the future

6.) Cripples make people feel uncomfortable, also there's no real point in communicating with a blind and deaf person. How were they supposed to communicate with him?
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>>343530746
Mira was the one that killed Junpei, not Zero
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>>343531134
The scene where Chris is crying, a shower is running, and their dad is grunting?

Then Eric mentions he was "just watching".

Also the whole point is that the first person Mira killed was Eric's mom.
>that lead to Eric going crazy
>Akane's Dad going to prison
>Akane's Mom killing herself
>the car crash
>the surgeon dying
>Sean dying
>life is simply unfair
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>>343531337
>Perceptive End
>Perceptive

Is it an Easter egg that makes no sense or is there a hidden meaning I didn't catch?
I literally put the name in right after going through The Hope of Two out of curiosity
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>>343530852
I am legitimately terrified right now
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>>343530647
Honestly they can't be expecting much more thant that at this point. It's a niche VN with no prequels on PC, almost no marketing, released during the Steam Summer Sales for $40.

Comparing to the total of owners for both DR games at a lower pricepoint long after release and going through discounts, I doubt Spike Chunsoft would expect much more right now.

http://steamspy.com/app/413410
http://steamspy.com/app/413420
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>>343531384
I'm not talking about the VLR ending, I'm talking about the one where ONLY Diana and Sigma live
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How in the FUCK is Delta not mentioned he was a 10th participant. How the hell no one talked about him before the reveal?
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>>343531287
Still won't stop that unknown fanatic that will kill 8 billion.
Guess it is too complex for you to understand after all :^)
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>>343531270
As she explains the idea, behind her written in blood it says something along the lines of "after twice, I will treat you".
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/v/, how can I convince myself that ZTD isn't canon?
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>>343531321
Dogs are fucking crazy, man.
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>>343531472
It's pretty much an Easter Egg ending
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>>343531401
is that the one where Sigma ketp lying to Diana about everyone being surely alright?
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>>343531454
I'm pretty sure that was his Dad beating Chris. No idea where you got the idea of rape.
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>>343531512
damn your complex motives
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>>343531493
No one can say.
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>>343531454
quite a large pile of coincidences
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>>343531506
This was the most stupid thing.
>Q was participating all along
>he was just off camera
>Q wasn't Q, he was Sean

No this doesn't work, this is just stupid.
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>>343531538
But anon, why are you trying to deny Carlos
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>>343531506
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>>343531454
All these "complex" motives was just Delta wanting to avenge Sean. He clearly liked the kid a lot.
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>>343531538
Choose not to shift at the Final Decision and stop there.
It's the ending the series needs, not the ending that it deserves.
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>>343531594
yeah, that one
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>>343531506
Zero never calls his game the nonary game.
Team Q knows it is 10 people, Team C and D with the nonary game survivors think it is 9 people
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>tfw didn't like ZTD Phi

what am I missing lads? Phi was my favourite character in VLR and one of the most exciting mysteries for ZTD to address but I feel like she was barely even in this game. I want to like her but it's difficult:
>spends a lot of time dead (not the characters fault, I know)
>a few decent bits of dialogue here and there, not enough though
>seems to disagree with Sigma over everything seemingly for the sake of it
>overly smug considering how little she does in the whole game, I mean Gab almost achieves more than she does just by wandering around with a collar
>bad English voice acting
>bad new design (the bright orange brows are really off-putting)

People are listing her as a top-tier ZTD character and shit but for what reason? What does she do in it that's so good? As I say, I want to like her but all of the Team D side was so disappointing.
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>>343531538
Well life goes on after Payoff so you can technically say that everything in the bunker didn't happen in the timeline that Zero Escape is going to go off of.
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how did delta even know how to do any of that shit if he isnt a shifter? he cant send information to the past
he would have had to find a shifter that knows 100% of everything that goes on inside of the shelter in order to recreate it, right?
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>>343531287
Read the files
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>>343531506
>Delta
>10th participant
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