All these people leaving.
http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/1/12083496/unannounced-diablo-4-blizzard-hiring-new-game-director
What do you think is going to happen to Diablo? It's in total limbo right now.
>>343515779
Who gives a shit? Diablo 3 is abhorrent trash.
>>343515779
Blizzard didn't even make Diablo 1 or 2, they were both from Blizzard North which is some other company Blizzard bought and renamed. All they've done with Diablo is leech on other people's work and then shit out an inferior knockoff.
Diablo 3 is entering maintenance mode. All the content that will be created for it, has been created for it. They are now trickling out that content in the final seasons till its all finally released. We've known this for months.
We've known Josh Mosqueira was leaving for MONTHS too.
On the flip side they were hiring conceptual artists for a Diablo game late last year, and it didn't look like it was going to be a new expansion.
>"In total limbo"
>"I get my info from polygon"
Seriously stop being a fucktard, google for like ten seconds next time.
>>343517003
>>343516786
These. Anyone to change up the game design and progression of Diablo going into 4 would be great
I am actually surprised they didn't milk it with another expansion
Reminder that this game sold a quadribillion copies thanks to the hype machine and the church of Blizzard.
Well done.
>>343515779
Fuck that guy
>>343517468
>>343517409
>>343517367
>>343517226
>>343517001
>>343516786
no hype for D4 even if it looks promising?
>>343517684
no hype for Blizzard ever again
I was very careful around blizzard since preordering WoL turned out to be 100$ mistake.
And then this piece of shit came out, played the demo out and swore I will never buy a blizzard game again. Original diablo was the game that shaped my childhood. I still play it from time to time... Gothic art, soundtrack, atmosphere....
Fuck you blizzard, never again.
>>343517974
>Original diablo was the game that shaped my childhood... Gothic art, soundtrack, atmosphere....
>>343517468
To be fair he was the game director well after they shipped Diablo 3 and I think he did an alright job of somehow steering a complete disaster into something halfway fun.
Thankfully Jay "Fuck that loser" Wilson also left, funnily enough his final project was Titan, another game turned into something decent once it left his hands.
>>343518126
not that guy but 0/10
>>343517974
Thank god Blizzard isn't pandering to muh nostalgia faggots like you.
Modern D3 is way better game than D1 and 2 and all their expansions put together.
>>343518126
A shekel for the good goy.
>>343518205
Slow day at HQ Chris?
>>343518205
nice try Jimmy
>>343518205
Yeah even Kripp said LoD which for some reason is priased here, was absolute shit because you could just buy the best gear in the game for real money
/v/ definitely nests some absolute retards
>>343517684
Anon, there is absolutely no reason to hype for any game anymore, everything released now is proven to be trash. Name one AAA game in the last years that hasn't been utter garbage and that isn't witcher 3.
>>343517684
>people who made d1 and d2 good all left
>mediocre team that made d3 even left
>most of blizzard's other games are bad, were good and became bad, are bad sequels to good games, or are decent right now but at risk of becoming bad
You're very optimistic.
I dont even get why people still played that game. I mean, the first 1-2 weeks after release were fun because everything in Inferno one shot you, but after they changed that the game was utter garbage.
>>343518323
>>343518395
I sure do love auto attacking everything for hours until your skills stop being completely shitty/mananhog
I sure do love using the same 1 skill on everything
I sure do love the complete lack of challenge after your first clear
D2 is such a great game!
>>343518503
fixed*
>>343518482
yeah you could buy duped shit but what kind of an argument is that you idiot? the game was amazing
also, krip is a hearthstone shitter
>>343515779
>DIII is online only and mods are not allowed
Yeah no wonder it went to shit, you weren't allowed to have literally literal fun literally.
>>343515779
>Polygon link
Pretty sure Acti were chomping at the bit to bury D3 after the Chinese release. Hearthstone and now Memewatch are giving their coffers cash for absolutely no effort on the development side of things.
Just like why WoD had no content. They'll push to have D4 out in a couple years that will have a better RMAH to keep a revenue stream that once had but Reaper killed off. Reaper was only an act of good will to get in people's good graces again after the shit show.
>>343518835
I respect you opinion
>>343517918
wtf actually happened to Krip
>>343518760
HAAH WAAW
>>343518835
Post the version with the MedianXL shit pile
>>343518837
>hurr durr pay2win fest was amazing because I'm a retard who can't let go of my nostalgia
pathetic
>>343517003
I'm pretty sure he quit because Blizzard didn't want to authorize another expansion and settled with seasons for Diablo 3. Now they're working on something new Diablo-related and hiring for it.
>>343518967
He got whipped.
>>343515779
>literally the guy that gets all credited for the expansion and turning the game around after FUCK THAT LOSER was removed from Diablo 3 and now he left
Well, it was good for Diablo 3 while it lasted.
>>343518967
Became a legit Blizzard shill.
>>343519106
it's their own fault for keeping online characters stored on the player's side and letting people play with modded saves.
>>343519232
d2 was shit
get over it
>>343515779
As a diablo player im just waiting on Expac 2 or Diablo 4 to be announced.
>>343518835
I actually have an anti-bait forcefield.
>>343519232
To be fair D3's simple online play is amazing, but you have to question was having no offline mode really worth it after the initial half year when game pretty much died and only dedicated people stuck around? People who would learn how to use a service properly in order to group with others and don't need any handhold-y match making.
>>343519106
fuck off back to your bind on pickup +43248 mainstat sticks, cash shops are always a thing but only for the good online persistent games
>>343519315
After last Blizzcon came and went with no announcement and now with all of the job listings that have cropped up since then, the latter is looking like the only option.
It is what it is.
>>343518835
RoS was a great step in the right direction and brought some players back, but you'll never win over people who just Diablo 2 all over again and have fundamental problems with Diablo 3. Nothing short of entire 180 design-wise could accomplish that, which is something that never happens post-launch.
>>343519232
it was stored on their servers clueless nigga
>>343519391
Always online was just more DRM they tried to pass off as a social feature. Console versions have offline don't they?
>>343517684
>hyping for a game that hasn't even officially been revealed
>>343519537
bullshit nigga i remember seeing people running around with horrifically overpowered custom items they modded into their saves. if they did switch to serverside player information it was much later.
>>343519391
last I heard D3 had auto-matching dog shit online mode
>>343519557
Yes, the game plays just fine offline. Blizzard was lying through their teeth with that online-only shit.
>>343519632
open bnet was always a thing but no one that cared for legit play went there
>>343519506
Actually
IT HAS happened before, with FFXIV.
But this late after launch, you are correct, that will never happen.
But Diablo 4, maybe.
>>343517003
>tfw no druid
>tfw no necromancer
>>343519632
Those people imported saves from PS3 to PS4 to do that.
>>343519617
Anon, I was hyped for Diablo 3 for 11 years
And it was not as fun as Diablo 2
Simply by having Necromancer Diablo 2 is superior
>>343519557
Yeah, but console version doesn't have season so there's that. It's also much easier with less enemies on-screen.
>>343515779
Creative/Design heads seem to be leaving Blizzard a lot these past few years.
>>343519827
Don't worry, the IP's are here to stay.
>>343519819
Also better because console controls > KB+M, also no online-only garbage.
>>343519827
rats and sinking ship
>>343519752
I seriously wish Blizzard expanded all goodwill they had with their audience at this point, but we both know people will jump all over whatever they release just because they're Blizzard and players feel nostalgic about the company. Any brand loyalty is death and each game should be measured on its own.
>>343515779
You're surprised?
I too would've quit if I did a shitty game like DIII.
>>343515779
>What do you think is going to happen to Diablo?
I didn't think it could get worse.
>>343519752
SE treated ARR as a straight up relaunch, not really a fix or patch of the original, though.
>>343515779
>The guy who replaced Jay Wilson left.
This isn't good, keep Jay Wilson a million miles away from Diablo 4. Don't even let him consult.
>>343519827
Wonder why Titan turned into Overwatch? Those morons still play corporate ball. Still have a love for the industry? Don't work AAA.
>>343519995
don't underestimate blizzards epicness
>>343517684
I'm hype for Blizzard's failure
>>343518760
I sure love the 0-70 levelling being basically a tutorial and having all my endgame being bottlenecked by one material. I sure love the endgame being dependent on braindead set builds. I sure love the garbage music. I sure love the shitty story. I sure love the linear maps. I sure love the lack of random dungeon generator. I sure love the huge ass cooldowns.
I never finished Diablo 3. I didn't even get to the end. I'd be interested in Diablo 4, but only if it's got more stuff in it, which is unlikely. The current trend in Asia is Diablo MMO's, essentially. Stuff like Devillian, Lost Ark Online and Lineage Eternal, for example.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that is the new Diablo game genre. I'd be interested in it.
Until then, I'll keep playing Grim Dawn and keep dying...
>>343518837
>Players can legitimately sell items to other players with real money
>THIS IS NOT OKAY
>Players can and will buy off chink farm sites and sometimes other players unofficially
>lmao who cares lol :D
>>343520032
Jay Wilson quit the company and industry like a month ago. Pretty sure he can't fuck it up like he did D3, WoD and soon Legion.
>>343519961
You don't even know the director of D3 and still shittalk it.
Nice going, mememaster.
>>343520032
Jay quit blizz a month or so ago
>>343515779
>Diablo 3 Game Director Quits
thank god
nothing of value was lost
>>343520179
chill out Billy, RMAH was closed, the game is dead
no one said cash shops are good, only that it's something that will be always present
>>343520150
> having all my endgame being bottlenecked by one material
???
>I sure love the lack of random dungeon generator.
Anon, that's something that D2 doesn't have but D3 has. When was the last time you looked at the game?
>>343520150
My biggest hope for Diablo 4 is that they pretend D3 never happened. Christ, could they have not fucked up at least one thing about it?
>>343520241
d3 flopped so hard it will always be a meme
inb4 hurr one gorillion games sold
>>343519819
Is there any diablo clone for the PC that can be played with a controller. The only thing that pushes me away are the controls...there's just too much mouse clicking and my right hand gets destroyed in the process. I always stop playing them midway because of this.
>>343520391
D3 is full of good stuff. Only people who still live in pre RoS patch believe otherwise.
>>343520189
A LOT of people left Blizzard in these last few years, important people as well. I have no idea what to make of this but I guess danger looms as long as Metzen is still there.
Is Path of Exile better?
>>343520494
Victor Vran?
>>343520391
same chances they'll retcon everything that happened in WoW
>>343520473
>inb4 hurr one gorillion games sold
That's exactly the opposite fucking definition of a flop you dumbass.
Not to mention that still hasn't got anything to do with the fact that you don't know who directed D3.
>>343520345
Death's breath, you need it for the easiest way to get legs, you need it to reroll stats, you need it to extract proprieties, you need it so your pimp Tyroneal won't spank you and fuck your ass, you need it to keep your addiction in check, you need it for EVERYTHING.
Seems like Blizzard's just a name now with a bunch of old CEOs and a revolving door for real game designers.
>goodbye inspired direction
>hello mass-producing the brand
>>343517684
LOL!
>>343520502
>good stuff
is it the boring itemization or scooby-doo tier villains?
>>343520315
Yeah he fucked up the game just as hard as Jay WIlson
>made stupid OP sets that you were pigeonholed into farming
>made legendaries drop like candy which exterminated any fun in loot hunting
>GRifts are total shit with 0 story behind them and you fight RNG monsters instead of famous Diablo monster
>>343517684
They would really REALLY need to step it up. Like fucking big time.
>stop trying to appeal to multiple systems
>MORE FUCKING CHARACTERS with actual differences
Diablo 3 was like they were running down a checklist of abilities to give each class.
>movement ability
>steroid
>brief invincibility ability (with rune that automatically activates it at 30% HP
etc.
>>343520345
Oh yeah I forgot, I'm in no way excusing D2 shortcomings, but d3 "random" dungeon generator is nothing but story maps with random weather effects. That's pure garbage.
>>343520676
Good thing it fucking oozes from every fucking corner, yeah?
>>343520623
I'm up for any recommendation at this point, i never finished a single diablo clone because of this personal issue with the controls. As long as it has controller support, i'm up for it.
>>343520502
RoS is nothing but Item Set grind, you can't even make an original build because all blizzard did was recreate their braindead itemization from WoW into D3.
>>343520502
>D3 is full of good stuff
The only admirable thing about D3 is the combat and the way bodies fly everywhere when they get slammed. It feels good but gosh is the game ugly as a pile of dogshit
>>343520748
>but d3 "random" dungeon generator is nothing but story maps with random weather effects. That's pure garbage.
And literally randomly generated entrances and layouts you idiot. You expect them to have unique backgrounds before you think they're randomly generated? That's just stupid.
>>343520647
that director never became a meme
>>343520502
>game needed more than a year of patches to finally be considered good
>whoever didn't want to suffer and force themselves to continue playing is dumb as fuck
>>343520494
Van Helsing
>>343520609
If you ever played it before the skill tree nerf, no, if you didn't, yes.
I hope it dies, D3 was fucking shit.
Am I the only one who had fun playing diablo 3?
Maybe it's because I've played it coop with my
brother.
D3 was fun as fuck on launch you dumb fagotes
Progressing prenerf inferno was great and unforgiving.
most of you clowns didnt even played the launch version of d3 so please stfu
>>343520712
It's nice that you didn't play the game m8.
>>343520856
> braindead itemization from WoW into D3.
You haven't played WoW, have you?
If anything, they're taking Diablo itemisation and shit into WoW and not the way you're suggesting.
>you can't even make an original build
http://www.diablofans.com/builds
Honestly, D3 is pretty fun at the moment. No other ARPG has managed to capture the smoothness of the combat.
>>343520345
>D2
>no random dungeon generator
cool story bro
>>343517684
>being a shill
>>343520823
They're kinda rare because hack and slash games took a different connotation on consoles. You have your Dark Alliance and whatnot. Dungeon Siege 3 also qualifies for what you're asking for, but it's made by Obsidian and has shitty itemization. Keep in mind a LOT of negativity around the game comes from the fact it's nothing like the first two games.
>>343521014
>Progressing
Yeah doing the same ugly shit over and over sounds like progression to me
>>343520908
More like literally nothing but the RoS pre-patch. That's the patch that turned shit around.
>whoever didn't want to suffer and force themselves to continue playing is dumb as fuck
No you idiot. I'm talking about people who still think it's the fucking launch D3 or just plain don't know shit about D3 beyond "wow it sux xD" meme
>>343521026
I wish I didn't play it thats for sure
>>343520750
Ah you mean it drops at rate of two per group of superior monsters with higher chances on harder difficulties. Which means even if you want to gear an alt you'd be better off using a well equipped character because he can go to higher difficulty levels.
Stop spreading shitty misinfo. The endgame is one huge boring shit.
>>343521063
Pinpoint me to the random dungeon generator in D2, please. Because the random generation is limited to layouts of the same zones (not random monsters and whatnot) where entrances and shit are in different spots. And for that you need to change difficulties to even trigger. Literally farm til you get good layout so you can grind some bosses or whatever.
>>343521086
I think i only played the original Dungeon Siege. But that was so long ago i can't remember a single thing about it, except that i liked it.
>>343521026
cool loadouts, loving the big numbers
>>343520908
I sure appreciated having to wait three years and buy an expansion to finally have this game reach some semblance of playability
>>343520889
The layouts are literally the same you fucking idiot, if you have played it enough you'd know them by hearth.
Torchlight 1 and even the abomination that was T2 did a perfect job at it, blizzard has no fucking excuse.
>>343521156
>Stop spreading shitty misinfo. The endgame is one huge boring shit.
How is it misinformation? If you fucking play even a while at T10 you'll be swimming in that shit not to mention blood shards.
Meanwhile you'll suffer for all eternity grinding shit in D2 solo.
>>343515779
>What do you think is going to happen to Diablo? It's in total limbo right now.
Quite the contrary actually, RoS sold like hotcakes
>>343521264
>didn't play Hell
>didn't play Ladder
>probably didn't even play D2
>>343521341
>did a perfect job at it
Passive abilities: the game was perfect to you? Both TL1 & TL2 suffered from that.
>The layouts are literally the same you fucking idiot
Whatever you want to believe, I guess.
>>343521264
>Because the random generation is limited to layouts of the same zones (not random monsters and whatnot)
yeah, nice try but consider playing the game before discussing it
>>343521375
T10 takes a good while to reach with a new character, WHEN YOU DO reach it with one, you're better off using that said character to farm them rather than using a new character. Like I said, it's a bottleneck.
>>343521375
You are a colossal flaming faggot for hating Diablo 2, game which is easily in top 10 most relevant games ever, with Baldur's Gate, HoMM 3 and Quake 2. Diablo 3 may be decent, may even be good, but will never be loved as much as Diablo 2, nor it will be as "innovative"
Die in a fire.
>>343521442
Actually, I've not managed to get to hell on my Druid because I'm still fucking grinding gear to stand a chance there. But if I were sorc I'd be soaring through it thanks to the AMAZING scaling in D2 where anyone who uses melee needs a statstick but anyone who uses spells gets by just by picking their necessary skill points.
>>343518967
He decided gaming sucks and that he'd rather just make ridiculous amounts of money playing a shitty card game. He wasn't wrong either.
>>343521592
>Actually, I've not managed to get to hell on my Druid because I'm still fucking grinding gear to stand a chance there.
lol
>>343521375
fucking kids these days
>that feel when you were piss poor and SoJ dropped
>>343521543
>game which is easily in top 10 most relevant games ever,
There's no objective list of top 10 most relevant games you idiot.
>>343521530
After leveling up it's like 5 hours before you'll run in T10.
>>343521675
>tfw I've never seen a SoJ ever drop
>ever
>>343521672
Alright, can you tell me how the fuck do I "get good" and beat Hell on my Werewolf drood without having good equipment? Bear in mind the first zombies take like 4 minutes to kill, break my weapon 10 times over and can two shot me.
>Post WC3 TFT Blizzard games
You did this to yourself
>>343521703
>After leveling up it's like 5 hours before you'll run in T10.
Only if you have a fuckload of luck.
>>343521592
melee are much harder to play than casters and ele dru is a great character when starting out, sorcs are only better at boss farming
acquire proficence
>>343521675
The big problem with D3 is that everything is so fucking incremental. You're just grinding with no sense of satisfaction when you get something good. In D2 you were excited to get that one drop that would completely change your game.
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>>343521790
buy a Ribcracker for perfect gems
>>343521874
Like I fucking said. It fucking sucks donkeydick when it comes to gear balance between casters and weapon users: If you are a caster you just need skill points, if you are a weapon user you need extremely good gear AND skill points. It's fucking stupid.
>>343521703
Specially for you you ass cancer:
Top 10 most relevant games list by anon:
1) System Shock
2) Quake 2
3) Baldur's Gate
4) Diablo 2
5) Heroes of Might and Magic 3
6) Starcraft
7) Super Mario Bros
8) Mortal Kombat
9) Need for Speed
10) Half Life
If you never played at least one from that list you are cancer and you should kill yourself. These games brought so much new shit, or expanded old shit, they are relevant even now.
>>343521753
Me neither. I don't really get it, I managed to get tons of other even more rare items.
>>343521675
Honestly, I think they fucked up loot drops twice in the game.
>pre-2.0
RMAH was a thing and they obviously rigged the chances most of your loot was shit so you'd have to sell and buy on the AH.
>post-2.0
They overcompensated and made rares and legendaries drop like candy in steady interval so you feel like you're making progress.
I mean, let's not kid ourselves here - you're grinding shit either way, but I'd rather grind through low-medium shit so when I get a legendary it's a HOLY SHIT moment. The way D3 is currently you're basically sifting and throwing away legendary gear because there's no minute increase in stats and you don't feel that buzz of getting good shit anymore.
Is it still online only?
>>343521992
>half-life
fuck off
>>343521983
holy freeze zealot is a perfectly fine melee character for starting out, but yeah melees are bad with no gear
I want them to hire a new fucking art director first.
Fuck Diablo 3.
>>343521967
How do I do that in single player?
>>343521992
Like I said, there's no fucking objective list of relevant games. That's a list of YOUR top 10 relevant games.
>If you never played at least one from that list you are cancer and you should kill yourself
Sorry I don't like the same shitty games as you
>>343521790
Go wind druid
>>343522172
No, how do I do it on my werewolf druid?
>>343521992
Please get out of here faggot. None of that shit has been good or relevant for over 10 years. They had their time, and now they are garbage.
>>343522141
if you started out as a gear dependant character you need to grind, all there is to it
even with flaws like that D2 is a masterpiece of game design compared to later Blizzard games
>>343521631
>turned on his birthday steam
>he enabled text to speech donations
>for 8 hours straight he received donations varying from $2-$500
>there was literally no pause at all from the text to speech program, it was just donation after donation
That dude is living the life. He must've made $10,000 that night.
>>343522215
Don't? You fuckhead
>>343522270
It really doesn't spell a masterpiece when so many specs are behind gear grind wall that can take hundreds of hours to get.
Wasn't D2 supposed to be good for having multiple builds? Yet all I'm getting suggested is respeccing into caster.
Is it still good for coop on console?
>>343522141
>objective
You are motherfuckin idiot. There cannot be objectivity as you know it, because there is no way all people who ever played games will sit in one room and proclaim top 10 list. My list consist games who are beloved by as many people as it can be, thus making this the most objective list.
You are still a faggot.
>>343522112
What would you put there? CoD ? People liked Half Life because reasons.
>>343522060
two opposite poles of shitty item design, pretty impressive if you ask me
>>343522215
What the flying fuck, i'm playing Diablo 2 too because i'm poor, and shit it's sad, how the fuck do i make work My Werewolf Druir
As someone who hated vanilla d3 and now has the console version, in its current form the game is great. It's still a treadmill of paragon levelling and trying to get ancient items and set stuff, but there's enough things to do when you hop in to adventure mode that it's fun to play off and on.
It's good. Whereas vanilla was literally abysmal.
>>343522363
See >>343522381 If anything, Hell seems like Inferno V1.
> My list consist games who are beloved by as many people as it can be
No dude, there's neither Minecraft or WC3 there (Which led to fucking DotA and LoL) making your list a shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Multi-platform
>>343522537
Ah hell, skipped out on >>343522417 for the second part.
>>343522514
Yeah, current diablo is all right. I think it gets boring after a couple days though.
>>343522381
look, you barely have any idea about the game and sure as hell this won't make anyone feel it's any less good
some characters are better than the others at certain things, I played werewolf druid for YEARS back in the day despite that he was a bitch when starting out
>>343522381
>It really doesn't spell a masterpiece when so many specs are behind gear grind wall that can take hundreds of hours to get
That's exactly why it's good you stupid faggot. Why do you think you should be able to get everything all at once? That's exactly why games these days fail.
>>343522251
>Implying Baldur's Gate or HoMM are not relevant RIGHT NOW
>>343522537
Ok, I would put WC3 there, but Minecraft? Hell no. Game is literally building from infinite lego bricks.
Also, best selling does not mean best
Bread is sold way more then pizza.
>>343521014
only hc because you could not abuse this hard sc was royal fucked because Nu-Blizzard cant think straight and le we don't test stuff :^^^^^))
>>343522417
>Anyone who doesn't like le cinematic quake game likes Cawadoody!!
Might as well put fucking Bioshock there instead of System Shock.
>>343518701
Alien Isolation was pretty good, aside from its "We totally ran out of money to finish the game" ending.
>>343517684
Didn't D3 sell 30+ million copies breaking a few PC sales records?
Why are they treating it like some red-headed step child?
>>343522723
BG2 and HOMM3 are still the best games of their type
you triple turbo faggot
>>343522798
Well yeah things tend to sell when they've got the right name backing them.
>>343522490
play more lazy faggot.
>>343522798
no one played it after three weeks
I haven't touched D3 in ages. Marvel Heroes has its own issues but it's a much more fun skinner box imo. If I wasn't playing MH, would probably play PoE.
>>343522490
>play game
>look for better drops
>use magic find if you're impatient
>>343522645
Yeah, but it's just something I have installed on my PSbrick. Play it local with friends, pull it up once a week and have a blast smashing shit for an afternoon, etc. It helps that it shows the games controls were clearly designed for console after playing that version.
>>343522798
They are not. D3 is going into maintenance mode and not being supported anymore. No more expansions or huge patches.
They will shift development onto D4 with a new game director, otherwise there's no reason to look for a new Game Director.
>>343522697
>look, you barely have any idea about the game
Considering I'm 100% right about the stupid disparity between melee "statstick" and caster builds when the amount of builds was supposedly insane for D2 you can't say I'm wrong.
>>343522717
>That's exactly why it's good you stupid faggot.
So why the fuck did people hate that portion about original Diablo 3, then? Hmm? Or is it only okay when D2 does it?
>>343522723
>Ok, I would put WC3 there, but Minecraft? Hell no. Game is literally building from infinite lego bricks.
You're an idiot. Minecraft is insanely influencial, successful and all that shit. Making one guy a fucking billionaire. Shining example of indie success.
There's also shit like WoW (example for gorillion MMOs) and like I said, DotA (Popularising esports) and far more better picks than what you listed.
>>343522867
obviously meant for this fag >>343522251
>>343515779
Probably a way the make it more console friendly
>>343523083
>So why the fuck did people hate that portion about original Diablo 3, then?
Eh? Diablo 3 didn't even have items at all.
>>343522867
Ofc they are you ultra autist.
>>343522251
>None of that shit has been good or relevant for over 10 years. They had their time, and now they are garbage.
This is the guy that should be hanged
>>343522791
Ok then, you don't like Half Life. But it is still very important piece of vidya
>>343522798
It has gotten shitloads of stuff for the expansion, dude.
Development for FREE can only last so long.
I loved Diablo 2 even though I was shit in it
I never have beaten nightmare for fuck sakes. Fuck the last act and its mobs
>>343522931
I'm on it
>>343523026
It's my first time playing the game anon, i barely passed through andariel.
Diablo 4 will have a cash shop.
>>343523146
>Eh? Diablo 3 didn't even have items at all.
Funny maymay : )))
>>343523083
deus ex is also shit, swimming isnt worth it
>>343523270
talk to the hand bitch
>>343523208
Don't bother with melee on solo. It's fucking suffering. I farmed like 20 hours all around the place killing bosses and getting runes and shit but got fuckall drops.
>>343523336
So I take it your answer is that it's literally okay when Diablo 2 does it but not when Diablo 3 does it?
>>343523360
Fuck it, i really liked the werewolf concept.
Anyway i think that i will just play the necromancer it looks overpowered.
>>343523083
>Minecraft is insanely influencial, successful and all that shit.
>shit
You had one thing right. Just because something got sold in huge amounts to autists, does not mean it is not good. And Dota and all assfaggots are just RTS with removed multi control and base building.
People like you who care more about money or huge playerbase are thing that kills gaming more then feminists. Games were better when they were made by smaller studios or in basements.
>>343515779
Happen to Diablo 3? Get a few more updates and then dumped into the trash, the game has no microtransactions to sustain itself, it was supported only because it sold a fuck ton copies.
Hopefully they'll deliver Diablo IV, I don't care if they steal ideas from either Grim dawn or PoE, I just want it to be good and completely different than the turd D3 is.
>>343523458
Enjoy Duriel
>>343523191
I remember fighting A3 council on hell after 1.10 hit and honestly thinking killing them is an impossible task for most characters
but yeah since then people completed hell difficulty with naked characters
>>343523208
The game is always rough in the beginning until you get your main skills and enough mana to maintain them. If it's your very first time playing though I would recommend a caster class. Physical damage-based builds are viable only with good gear.
>directly linking to polygon
Fuck off lad
>>343523492
Looking for Baal?
>chills
>>343523445
No but I could say that. Considering Diablo 3 is a sequel made 10 years later it really has no excuse.
>>343518835
Rerminder.
>>343523164
The RoS fixed some problems but made things much worse when it came to the longevity of the loot game.
Giving players so many options to find loot has made Seasons a 'log in play for a week then quit' experience.
Then you have the other extreme where players must farm paragon levels in order to compete in ranked which led to an explosion of bots.
They made the game unappealing for casual and hardcore players.
>>343523191
Talking about those skeleton archers? It's like hitting a brick wall.
>>343523468
>You had one thing right. Just because something got sold in huge amounts to autists, does not mean it is not good
Who said good (which is subjective, idiot)? It's literally one of the most influential games of last decade and only an idiot would deny that.
>And Dota and all assfaggots are just RTS with removed multi control
DotA has multiple units you fucking idiot. One character relies completely on managing several copies of the unit to farm and do all sorts of shit. Stop with /v/ memes and start knowing your games.
And again, it's an influencial game.
>People like you who care more about money
No you fucking idiot. They're influential.
>huge playerbase
Funny that you complain about this since this was literally your excuse for picking those top 10 games of yours.
>more then feminists
Who aren't killing gaming at all. Wow.
> Games were better when they were made by smaller studios or in basements.
Hey, like Minecraft? Or indie games in general? Oh wait, I forgot the /v/-meme where every indie game is shit.
My mind will be blown if Diablo 4 ends up being even more casual than 3
>>343523525
But i don't want to play magic/socceress class, i would play amazon but she looks like shit (it's a 2000 game i know).
This season barbarian's set is utter shit. Up to tier 2 is literally useless.
>>343523578
>Considering Diablo 3 is a sequel made 10 years later it really has no excuse.
Excuse for what? Said shit drop rates were removed after all the whining, along with the AH.
>>343523891
Jesus Christ, how?
>>343523191
>>343523829
hi
I see nostcuck still thinks boycotting blizzard is going to pan out. Have fun with that
>>343518395
source\?
>>343523783
>D3
>RoS
>No Hellfire
>No LoD
>>343515779
>direct linking to Polygon.
Are you a shill or just retarded? Archive that shit:
http://archive.is/3CPyb
>>343517684
Nope.
At least i'm already jaded, and when you're working on projects as big as these, one fuckup means the entire seires may be dead for years to come.
Look at Relic Entertainment. They did the most lauded RTS in the 00 and it just took DoW2 to make it trash bin.
You should all look forward to the next Diablo, for which they coined the term "DiablOBA"
It will be the best shit ever made, obviously, since they'll be ditching all of the established dark fantasy lore and instead copying League of Legends and other popular games that the average idiot adores.I'm never buying a Blizzard product again, I'm not joking and I've maintained this attitude since Diablo 3
>>343523896
If you want to stick with the Druid, the wind Druid is powerful and easy to use. Just pretend it's not magic.
>>343515779
WoW is turning into Diablo 4 so it's cool.
>>343523973
exactly
that's why my mind would be blown
just
how
but I'm sure they'll figure out a way
>>343523976
How could I forget about these fuckers
>>343524086
In that case i would pay a shemale to fuck me and pretend that i'm not gay, but i appreciate the advice anon.
>>343524017
> +LOD
>>343524075
You mean Heroes of the Storm?
>>343519223
>became a legit blizz shill
someone asked him if he would apply for the director position for Diablo after hearing this news last night on his stream. He said he would because he wouldnt want to work under blizzard unless he was the ceo. he plays blizz games yea. but he doesnt shill their games. he hates overwatch and hots and diablo
>>343523829
They were cunts, but my assasin could blind them and they could not shoot me. They were still pain in the ass. I just got tired of grinding mobs and I am sure that I would have gotten stuck on those freezing Yetis anyway.
>>343523783
Grim Dawn isnt that good
MAINLY BECAUSE ITS FUCKING TITAN QUEST 2.0
>>343523783
Torchlight 1 sucked ass
Diablo 3 story, ambience and visual design was garbage. The gameplay was shitty too. Doesn't matter how much people fellate D2, it was archaic and boring after awhile, just clicking with one hand everything. D3 at least should have attempted in doing something FUN about it.
Blizzard stories are shit lately too. SC2 entire campaign was not only bad, but complete cringeworthy. Even if the game is good there's no hype for campaign expansions unless it comes with something AMAZING for the MP, and lo and behold, they didn't, but came with things that were consciously stripped out WoL like very needed units and techs to justify the next installment because, honestly, HotS and LotV story is known by no one.
Should have kept charms and added runes. D2 loot system held up over the years because shit like that was underpinning it.
So now they know exactly how they fucked up in D3, they can avoid making the same mistakes in D4, right?
>>343523865
Fuck off.
>DotA has multiple units you fucking idiot.
Controlling 3-5 units vs controlling shitload of units with different abilities and microstrategy? Fuck off, Dota multi control is not even relevant when compared to Starcraft
>No you fucking idiot. They're influential.
You are motherfucking idiot if you believe in that. Only thing you can influence with your wallet is greedy devs making shit games
>every indie game is shit.
I like Darkest Dungeon, Don't Starve, and Hotline Miami. They are indie and they are good.
But yeah, let's measure game worthiness by copies sold. Truly great marker.
By your standards Angry Birds are probably best game ever, because shitload of people play it on phones.
>>343523783
The van helsing trilogy is fucking amazing.
>>343524708
except you only need 3 because its a complete rehash of 1 and 2
>>343523783
>liking RoS
>hating Viktor Vran
what a shit-eating pleb
>>343524585
>Controlling 3-5 units vs controlling shitload of units with different abilities and microstrategy? Fuck off, Dota multi control is not even relevant when compared to Starcraft
Starcraft units also require substantially less individual micro, with most having 0-1 abilities and only needing direct control in specific engagements.
The two aren't really comparable on a pure number basis.
I hated the washed up colors so much.
Not only it was anti-Diablo like, but straight up a fuck up in visibility.
In the very beginning the zombies are some grayish blue that blends with the grayish blue background perfectly and makes a blurry mess out of anything.
>>343523973
guaranteed uniques
>>343523976
max light res + tgod vigor, you can stand in front of million of these fuckers without problem
>>343524585
>Controlling 3-5 units vs controlling shitload of units with different abilities and microstrategy?
You're moving the goalpost and don't even understand that they're not the same fucking genre and that they require shitloads of attention still. You know fuck all about DotA yet whine about it.
>You are motherfucking idiot if you believe in that.
Are you seriously claiming Minecraft isn't influential? Or how DotA isn't Influential? If they're not influential how the fuck does everything want to become the next DotA or Minecraft? Another addition would be DayZ launching survival boom - another hugely influential game.
But apparently only games from the 80s can be influential.
>But yeah, let's measure game worthiness by copies sold. Truly great marker.
Stop being a fucking idiot when you yourself used
> My list consist games who are beloved by as many people as it can be, thus making this the most objective list.
For your list. Which can both be interpret as huge ass audience AND copies sold.
>>343517684
Only if they understand the points made in this video:
https://youtu.be/I22Ivb8ELzQ
Diablo had something special, and unless they can manage to get that back (which I'm 99% sure they won't since they're pandering to the WoW/Hearthstone/HoTS casual crowd now who demand cartoony artstyles and item pickups and care little for mood and story and all the things that made Diablo great).
>>343524987
Or rather in DayZ's case, a mod.
>>343524571
Eh
No.
I mean come on, you would have to be very naive to trust someone that didn't even held true to the D1 and D2 gothic dark horror roots.
Not even the visuals are appealing. I mean shit that was the first RED FLAG RED FLAG in a very very EARLY development. And then, basically told everyone to fuck off it's fine :)
Yes it sold a lot, but it was out of pure entire nostalgia and brand recognition.
>>343524751
Yeah, but it's still pretty good.
Torchlight 1 my dudes
>>343524751
You mean Final Cut, which melds the 3 games together to make an actually decent game.
3 is abhorrent shit, and it was released quickly to get Final Cut out to fix it.
>>343524987
>only games from the 80s can be influential.
Yep, because they invented shit we are using right now in nearly every game, and most genres as we know it now.
>influential
Influential to stupid faggots who only play that shit games, yes. People who play Dota are cancer. Same with minecraft. Why the fuck would someone play the same map over and over and over just to have higher rating? If you want to compete, go kick a ball or run fast.
And I can compare the fuck out of Dota and RTS because Dota starded as WC3 map.
You claim that map made in WC3 map generator specifically for WC3 is not same genre as WC3
You should go visit a doctor.
>D3 is bad because it isn't D2 HD
>>343515779
Diablo has been shit ever since 2012. It's not going to get better.
Compare this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJg6nJbL-k
to this
>Gaze upon the destruction I have wrought. It'll be the last thing you see.
>My armies flow through the hell rifts. Heaven will be destroyed long before you set one foot into the Silver Spire!
>Look upon these gardens, now they seethe with the corruption of Hell!
>The hell rifts are closed, but it is of no matter. Soon there will be nothing left of these High Heavens. All creation will be the Realm of Terror!
Literally five second of dialogue destroys metzen $90 million budget try-hard tolkien
fucking gay
>all this people ITT suddenly caring about story in loot em' up games
>>343525409
>the game is bad because its on the same map
>>343524571
There were plenty of things from D1/2 completely left out of D3.
I'm still mad about no light radius
>>343525469
Nothing incorrect about that tbqh.
I WANT TO FUCK
THAT DIABLO
>>343525409
>Influential to stupid faggots who only play that shit games, yes
No, influential all around. Just because you don't like the games doesn't mean they're not influential.
WoW has had huge influence on MMOs, DayZ was a mod that made a huge boom in a specific genre, DotA created a whole new genre and raised interest in esports a lot through LoL and DotA 2. Minecraft has had insane influence as well.
> People who play Dota are cancer.
It's hilarious how you whine about a game and its players while not knowing a single shit about it.
>Why the fuck would someone play the same map over and over and over
Pretty much just like RTS, yeah? The map in DotA and LoL both have had changes made to the map as well.
>And I can compare the fuck out of Dota and RTS because Dota starded as WC3 map.
So by your logic you can compare RTS and other popular custom maps like Wintermaul, Sheeps vs Wolves and such? Nah. Don't be ridiculous.
>You claim that map made in WC3 map generator specifically for WC3 is not same genre as WC3
Like I said above, are those the same genre as WC3? Is ANGEL ARENA same as WC3 (=RTS) - NO.
Then there were things like Slide Ninja Slide, Run Kitty Run, Escapes, Uther Party (based on Mario Party, though), Murder Mysteries, literal RPGs like Black Gate and shittons of others that had fuckall to do with RTS.
>>343525474
100% agree. And dont forget Azmodan... I think the only one that was "ok" is Belial since he actually got me surprised when he changed.
>>343526000
>>343525409
Oh and let's not forget Hero Siege, HeroLineWars, Hero Defence, Vampyrism and more. Nope, totally RTS because they were custom maps for WC3!
Did you know that WoW is based on WC3 engine? It must mean that WoW as well is an RTS!
