Zero Time Dilemma: "Gamespot Reviewers are Dumb as Shit" Edition
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/zero-escape-zero-time-dilemma/1900-6416462/
>>343472871
No one cares about Gamespot since she left.
>>343472871
How's about you post a pastebin so I don't have to click on it?
>>343472871
>any game I like deserves a 9 or a 10
Look man, even if he did it for the wrong reasons, ZTD is a 6. It's okay that we all enjoyed it and love the series, but ZTD is a 6.
>>343475026
>any game I like deserves a 9 or a 10
Point to where I said that.
>>343474672
Will an archive.is do?
https://archive.is/COrxY
>>343473230
>she
>>343474672
http://archive.is/COrxY
>>343475149
>>343475186
archivemind
>Junpei: Hey akane you've been getting fat from eating all those cakes.
>Akane: How 'bout I cut off your arm and shove your ass in a vent?
Well that escalated quickly.
Junpei bringin' the bantz
Did I screw up in the control room? I have cards 2, 3 and 4 but not card 1
Only idiots and newfags care about gaming journalist reviews. To everyone else, gaming journalists has been dead for years now.
>>343475534
>>Akane: How 'bout I cut off your arm and shove your ass in a vent?
Kanny? OUR Kanny?
damn son
Reminder VLR ending was the best ending in ZTD and that one should be the true one.
what did he mean by this?
>MY PLOT TWISTS ARE....
>COMPLEX
>>343473230
I want to suck this person's feminine Penis.
>>343477912
hopefully ZTD is a clusterfuck because he's a hack and not because he had something coherent but butchered it so people who didn't play 999 and VLR could understand it
My shitposts are complex...
>>343475534
this is in response to her going through the vent right?
>>343472871
I really wish the mods would start cracking down on people who post direct links
I swear to GOD they refer to Sean as Q at some point, they absolutely must, and in the decontamination room the whole room is in shot or is panned, am I to assume Q was just circling around the camera or fell down?
get fucked
>FREE THE SOUL DESTROYED BY A 20 YEAR OLD BOY AND DISCHARGED 50 YEAR OLD DETECTIVE
>SOMEONE FROM FREE THE SOUL HAS MORE INFLUENCE THAN BROTHER
>THE LEADER OF FREE THE SOUL, WHO CAN READ MINDS, DOESN'T KNOW WHO IT IS
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
In the middle of playing this, and a for this first time multiple fragments became available for each team. I dont know which one happensdirectly after all the teams vote for the first time.
Does it the order I pick them in matter at all? Am I supposed to skip around the timelines?
>>343478245
that image on the bottom left is straight bustin me up senpai
>Let me tell you a story
>A long time ago, a game came out
>No one was quite sure what it was about
>But the end was a cliffhanger
>A cliffhanger whose resolution, people would wait 4 years to witness.
>Many died during that time.
>Many didn't see it.
>Those, would be the lucky ones.
>Because once it came out.
>It boiled down to...
>Alien technology.
>Life is truly unfair, don't you think?
So let me get this straight.The snail caused Eric's Mom to walk a different path which caused her to be Mira's first kill. Which led to Eric's dad going crazy and killing Chris. Also causing Akane's father to be falsely arrested followed by her mothers suicide. Sean is the boy at the end obviously.but the one thing I don't know isHow the taxi driver and surgeon connected?
>>343478279
>FREE THE SOUL DESTROYED BY A 20 YEAR OLD BOY AND DISCHARGED 50 YEAR OLD DETECTIVE
they just destroyed one of their bases
I hate reading games /v/.
In 5 words or less tell me why I should play this 6/10 game.
>>343478245
Just finished the game, and holy shit, you guys were not joking about the complex thing. It's a fucking ZERO ESCAPE game, there's always a big info dump at the end, why is this the only time someone doesn't want to spill their guts about their plan?
Aoi was never exactly easy to get along with, but everything I've seen in ZTD just reinforces that Akane's callousness and hypocritical tendencies make her an absolute nightmare to deal with. Kurashiki family life must be insane.
This is your decision game, /v/ Team.
If you open this spoiler box, you will be released, but 6 billion will die.
>>343478507
COMPLEX OLD MAN AYY LMAO
JUST REMEMBER TO SMILE /v/ NO MATTER WHAT!
>>343478498
>they just destroyed one of their bases
headquarters
>>343478408
Akane's father called the cab but because he was arrested it picked up the doctor instead. They got into an accident on the way to the hospital thus also causing the original Sean to die.
>Delta is 124 years old but is as fit as a very fit 70 year old, with no explanation
>No information is ever given about how Delta even knows the world will be destroyed if he doesn't release radical-6
>Blick Winkle / ? thread completely abandoned
MY MIND IS TELLIN' NO
BUT MY FETISH
MY FETISH'S TELLIN' ME YEES
>>343478408
taxi driver was going to pick up akane's dad
but since he was arrested, the taxi picked up the surgeon instead
>>343478575
that scene was fuckingcute
>>343478551
>I came to save the world!
Junpei dies
>FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU I'LL MURDER EVERYONE AND I'LL LEAVE PHI AND SIGMA TO DIE TOO FUCK FUCK FUCK DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH JUMPY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>343478650
He's 4chan the character
>>343478631
oh fuck
>>343478579
same shit
do you think every member and all their assets were in that headquarters when it was destroyed
What's with all of the dutch angles in the game?
>>343473230
That's a dude.is that the tranny Jim Sterling does a podcast with?
Was there ever any confirmation on who is the strongest esper out of all of them?
>>343478631
Please share later.
>mom asks why I'm playing "Saw games"
>>343477912
I'd like to know what happened to Uchi's vision of Zero Escape between VLR and ZTD.
Did the cinematic style shift it?
Did "catering" to the American demographic give him the wrong idea of what he needed to create?
Did time change it?
>Junpei and Seven went on fun and zany 90's buddycop adventures
I actually wish ZE3 had been about that instead. At least it wouldn't have had ALIENS and COMPLEX
>>343478625
He can see all realities he is alive in using the quantum computer. Considering he is alive during VLR he likely saw the end of the world in alternate timelines as well.
>>343478254
No, it was when he proposed.
>>343478908
Holy shit, she looks awful. She was right. White is better.
>>343478908
>>343478908
I would.
What the fuck was Uchikoshi smoking.
When he wrote alien space/time tech into the game?
>hahaha I played you like a fiddle nobody was supposed to die anyways I was helping you the entire time u mad?
>>343478830
A timeline exists where this motherfucker is.
>>343479115
>but why
>MY MOTIVES................
>>343479091
it's for the sequel
why do you think the next zero killed 8 billion people
So no matter what happens in any of the ZTD timelines, Zeroends up saving people? Either 2 billion or all 8? How is he a villain then?
>>343478830
I thought it was going to be Brother, but honestly it really isn't. Probably Carlos.
>>343479091
Man who gives a shit about the aliens? Like is this so fucking out there it ruins the game for you?
>>343479218
Complex plot developments.
Also, he is a fucking retard. There are much better ways to catch the terrorist
>>343479218Everyone dies in the don't jump timeline an presumably there is nobody to stop the fanatic from starting a nuclear war.
>>343479091
>sending information to the past/future in 999 and VLR
>reasonable
>clones existing in VLR
>reasonable
>sending information to the past/future to make a clone in ZTD
>RIDICULOUS
>>343478631
>>343479151
>there's a timeline where this man has raped Clover, Akane, and Lotus
WHERE THE FUCK WAS KYLE? YOU FUCKING HACK!
>>343479218
Only 1 of the endings is Radical-6, every other ending is extinction, which is actually pretty stupid.
>phi has red eyebrows suddenly
>goes from white hair to grey
Just started the game and won the coin flip... what just happeend? It can't be this easy right?
>>343478381
separate version just for you
>>343478625
>Blick Winkle / ? thread completely abandoned
I don't think they were planning to use that as all. Wasn't it added on the localized version for NA / EU? Making it's canon status questionable?
>>343478631
>DO IT FOR HER
>>343478551
the way she was a kill joy when c team won the dice game really makes you question what junpei sees in her
>>343479390
Who did Akane do all that exposition at the end of VLR with if not the Blick Winkle?
>>343479292
Yes actually.
Well, VLR being for nothing, Akane, Sigma and Phi being a trio of useless dumbasses, Carlos creating the timeline where R6 doesn't spread in 5 minutes, Brother being good all along, Free the Soul not being the evil endgame, etc.
All of those ruined the game for me. AYY LMAOS was just the most pathetic development
>>343472871
inb4 comment deleted and review edited with no acknowledgement of a mistake
or did it already happen?
>>343479314
I just wish they hadn't said "aliens made it lol"
why are delta's eyes purple?
>>343479569
Aliens. No idea, literally never explained.
Well, this game did answer the "Did Akane love Junpei or was it all an act in 999" question once and for all.
She loves him so much she completely forgets about saving the world every time he dies, and ust murders the fuck out of whoever killed him.
>>343479510
Obviously a lie.
>>343479569MIND HACK
>the fucking AB game
I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO CHOOSE BETRAY, MOTHERFUCKER.
>>343478279
I'm still looking for the bar scene where Eric referred to Sean as Q, but in the meantime I found this, in the don't inject radical-6 node. They start talking to Q near the end of it but in this scene the camera had panned all around the bar and Q is nowhere to be seen. Complete and utter bullshit.
I-I liked ZTD more than VLR
>>343478830
Isn't it Akane? She can SHIFT literally whenever she wants
>>343479672
But it definitely existed in 1908
>>343478275
Why? Because it triggers your gamergate mentality?
>>343478846
At this point I'm not even sure whether or not Uchi should be criticized for all the bullshit.
...I mean, what can he do? No Q & A will ever be good enough to fix ZTD and this IS the end of Zero Escape, there's no way to simply rescind it
So, is Akane's love what powers Junpei's SHIFT ability?
>>343479462
Carlos creates a future where Radical-6 doesn't spread by winning the coin toss, but the entire human race will still be wiped out in nuclear war.
There's literally only one ending where Radical-6 actually gets out and it is the one leading to VLR. Every other one leads to nuclear holocaust except the final ending.
>>343479569
M I N D H A C K
>>343479569
2 COMPLEX 4 U
I could have sworn VLR said Junpei couldn't jump through time and he and Clover can only receive information from the past
>>343479905
What did you find so bad about the game? The only issue I had was Kyle not being brought up.
I don't know how I feel about the terrorist causing nuclear war thing
At least in VLR Radical-6 was brought up early on, developed, and went: outbreak -> exploding annihilation reactors (either b/c of suicide or fanaticism) -> RIP 6 billion
In ZTD it's just: vague terrorist attack -> instant global nuclear war
What kind of terrorism makes all the nuke-holding governments blow each other to shit? It's just thrown at you in the last 1/4 of the game, with NO detail whatsoever, and you're just meant to accept it results in everyone dying.
What was the point of the Delta twist, him being there changes literally nothing in any scene besides making you think "oh I guess he could have been there yeah"
It's like it's only there to fill a quota, "Oh the other games had these crazy plot twists so this one needs it too even though it's completely pointless"
>>343479316
Cute
>>343479712
Swear to god I got some PTSD flashbacks after walking in there.
I was hoping it was gonna be a tongue in cheek sorta "haha, look at how dumb those guys from VLR were not just trusting each other!" but fucking Junpei stabbed Carlos in the back like a cock smoker.
the fuck? Why are these threads so active and why do I continue to read them
every story driven game i've played in the last year has let me down
first life is strange, then mgs5, now this
in all 3 games i enjoyed the ride, but they all stumbled at the finish line big time
>>343480025
shit was changed from "able to see different futures" and "telepathy across time" to "WE CAN ALL JUMP THROUGH TIME AND SPACE NOW"
>>343479801
So did I, I can't tell if the people shitting on it are serious or just shitposting memes while they're fresh
I actually really liked Eric
Pod room was my first puzzle room and he's fucking hilarious there
>>343480295
MGSV fumbled at the halfway mark and then made you limp back to the starting line.
>>343480026
>no Kyle
>no Snake
>zero mentions the fucking meeting and the fucking robe is right there and he says a huge truth about the world will be revealed BUT WE DONT FUCKING SEE IT AND IT'S NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN
>Free the Soul is destroyed off-screen
>Left is basically completely unimportant despite his identity being a plot thread left in VLR's epilogue
>brother was a good guy the entire time he killed 6 billion to save 2 billion all according to plan
>>343480371
I'm shitting on a lot of the story problems and disappointments as a big fan of the series.
>no more Zero Escape games after this
>>343480371
There's always going to be people that don't like something, but there's also people who just need time to digest everything that didn't play out the way they pictured it would in their heads.
>>343479774
Another instance: in the Yellow Door node you can see Q's shadow on the floor in a few cuts, but the camera pans around the entire room and Q isn't even remotely visible in any cut at all. There are also four falling sounds heard when they're knocked out (not counting the dropping shotgun clatter), despite Mira being dead at this point.
>>343479801
>more than
Nah, it was ok but I found VLR more interesting and engaging.
>>343480094
>What kind of terrorism makes all the nuke-holding governments blow each other to shit?
You do know how nuclear deterrence works right? The governments of the world keep a stockpile of nuclear weapons in order to make sure that other countries with nukes don't do the same to them. If just 1 country launches an unwarranted nuclear attack the rest of the world would be on their ass and would be looking for ways to spin the attack to their advantage by using it as an excuse to launch their own attack somewhere else
>>343480371
Most of the people "shitting" on it are big fans of the series. I know that I'm personally just trying to 1) talk out the issues I had to finalize my opinion, and 2) hoping someone has a good explanation for the stuff that doesn't sit right with me.
>This game probably would have been the one that answers all VLR questions as well as solving a few 999 mysteries
>Instead they butcher a lot of Uchi's vision just to pander to newcomers
How do I access the epilogue?
>>343480758
enter a fragment, then go to FILES. They're under the Cinema tab
>>343479569
Maybe they were artificial. He is old as fuck, i'm surprised he's still walking.
i absolutely loved ZTD, but there's too many flaws to overlook... i guess you could say my opinion on the game is...
Who else thinks adding a time travel machine to the story only made it worse?
>>343479658
A world without Jumpy isn't a world worth saving.
>>343480879
I loved the ride but was disappointed by Delta's motivations.
>>343478575
here
>>343472871
This is the same shit with Wooly World, Tropical Freeze and a myriad of other games with Gamespot. Why is anyone surprised?
>>343472871
I just beat itThank you phi for interrupting delta from explaining why they brought akane, junpei and Mira so Uchi could get away with not explaining shit
>>343480942
as a plot device it was okay.
it's """explanation""" was atrocious.
>>343479387
Uh....if Mira stops her past self, won't that mean the whole true ending gets ruined?
Do you feel like Uchikoshi cribbed too much from his previous works?
Or did he put enough clever twists and interesting things so that Zero Escape stands on its own?
>>343478245
Ace WAS mentioned, Junpei said he was in jail.
Same with the robes, in the VLR ending Brother gives them to her.
Same with Brother's age.
>>343481391
999 was a good standalone work even if I could see similarities with E17. VLR is when the rehashing was too much for me.
MY MOTIVES.
ARE.
COMPLEX.
>>343480942
It was vaguely foreshadowed in VLR, so i'm okay with it existing. The "DUDE ALIEN TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS ACTUALLY EXISTED THIS ENTIRE TIME" was fucking stupid and makes VLR entirely pointless.
>>343480525
>>343480525
Q is invisible to the cameras, dumbasses
the truth is invisible
>>343480427
>no Kyle
This is valid. I doubt Uchi straight up forgot, though. Given all the small callbacks to things from VLR.
>no Snake
Why would there be? I get he said we'd find out what happened to him in ZTD, but considering he apparently meant just epilogue shit for the other 999 characters, why would he get any more?
>ROBES
You would have to be straight up retarded to not get that was referring to Akane having gone to the meeting in Beginning or End.
>FTS is destroyed off screen
Their headquarters were. Considering they have 1,000,000+ members, an important building getting destroyed is hardy the destruction of the entire organization.
>Left
He was Delta's adopted brother, it was never a mystery.
>Brother is a good guy
...What?
He did things to achieve a higher goal that could be considered 'good', but that was the case even before the end of ZTD, and certainly nobody thinks of him as a 'good guy'.
I'm inclined to think you just really wanted to hate this game.
Am I the only one who disliked the Phi origin reveal? I was mindfucked at first but then the more I think about it the more I now find Phi's role in Zero Escape completely meaningless.
>>343481368
Stopping her young self will make a branching timeline from that point which will be different from the ZE timeline.
Her original timeline stays, just like Tenmyouji's story about the bikers.
>>343480026
>All my worst gut feelings+predictions about the plot twists and characters were right. Went into ZTD expecting to be pleasantly surprised. Never was.
>I honestly wish all the new characters other than Carlos were returning characters. I'd easily replace Eric with Snake
>Free the Soul, Brother, and Left being shafted. Suffice it to say that they were my favorite plot thread from VLR
>Objectively, the alien thing was bullshit
>The moral of the story about the motorcyclist that Tenmyouji told feels like it was shit upon multiple times
>Almost all the characters unique to the VLR timeline falling off into oblivion. Guess it's collateral damage but still, the lack of acknowledgement stings
>>343481391
I should actually play his other VNs.
>>343478625
>>Delta is 124 years old but is as fit as a very fit 70 year old, with no explanation
quantum immortality
Ok somoene explain me something.How can D-team end 1 be the past of VLR if Junpei and Akane are both death?
The way Akane keeps talking about how much she loved Junpei when they were playing around with his limbs was too much.
;_;
>>343480525
And in the very first scene where Q's shadow is sometimes visible and sometimes not, and the camera again doesn't show him despite him being in its visible field several times.
>>343481571
I wouldn't even doubt Uchikoshi pulling this as an excuse if prompted.
>>343481761
Keep playing the game and you will find out. There is a reason there are fragments past that ending.
>>343479384
it was that easy
that's why people are complaining, it's a 10 minute game
>>343481841
thanks fambalam
>>343481635
I loved D2 end
>>343481509
I love VLR and I'm afraid playing Ever17 will somehow make me appreciate it less
FIXABLE THROUGH QAs
>every complexity of delta
>snake
NOT FIXABLE THROUGH QAs
>open ending
>ayys
I'd say we're fine
is this shit worth the price?
>>343481713
ever17 has a far better final route than any ZE game, but it takes pain and suffering in the form of 12 hours of boredom to get there
>>343480392
WHACCA
>Don't worry, I won't die
>he fucking died
>>343481792
Were they not all fake body parts?
>>343482083
You wish
>>343473230
>she
>Final decision
>If we SHIFT to our bodies in the time line where we won the coin flip then it's unfair because they will be sent back here to die!
>despite shifting various times to get here, resulting in consciences being sent to dead bodies already multiple times... but let's just forget that because that was okay
Fucking really, that final decision was utter bullshit
>>343480863
thanks anon
video game journalists in general are garbage. The only good one is Total biscuit
Literally carrying a ring so he can put it on Akane.
Forget punished, how whipped can one man be?
>>343481647
yeah...but that means mira dies before her 30s
>>343479905
He could have actually upheld his promises instead of lying but that's too much to ask for, and certain fans will enable that behavior.
>>343478526
Newcomers to the series might not like info dumps. :-)
So was Zero's speech to Diana if she pressed the Acid Shower button complete bullshit? Just having some fun fucking around with mom and guilting her the fuck up? Or did he not mindhack her?
>>343479462
Glad I'm not the only one. I'd rather have not gotten the game at alljust like the new Berserk animu
>>343482048
It's fucking awful from a culinary standpoint.
I doubt that Gordon Ramsey would harass random restaurant goers for having shit taste at random pizza places, but if a place wants to call itself high-class it's got to be held to a higher standard.
Remember that Ramsey is actually a fairly okay guy the network just feeds him idiots so he has something to yell about
>>343482152
it would have made some sense
except if they don't shift 8 billion people die
dumbasses
>>343479390
It's in all versions, but it was only voiced in the English dub.
>>343480338
Espers passively buff other espers if they're around them. Sigma and Phi are both powerful espers, but to even activate their abilities they needed Junpei, Clover and probably Dio around to help them all boost their abilities to the maximum and unlock them. Carlos was the same, he needed to be around Junpei and Akane to give his abilities the kick they needed to activate. Diana doesn't seem like she can jump, but she can access the Morphogenetic field far easier than Carlos can.
By the end of the game, there are a total of 6 powerful espers all gathered in one place. Considering only two or three were needed to boost Sigma and Phi (who were already latent themselves) it's no surprise that 6 espers were able to carry the weight of two normies.
>>343481661
>>The moral of the story about the motorcyclist that Tenmyouji told feels like it was shit upon multiple times
pretty much
in this game, the bikers who crash and die basically switch places with the bikers who survived, right before the big accident
over and over again
Now bringing you Zero Escape 4: Back to Baghdad.
>>343482048
Because a well made pizza would taste even better as late night comfort food.
Can confirm.
>>343481391
WHY WAS SHE IN THE WASHING MACHING, THOUGHThere are newfags lurking and posting RIGHT NOW who don't know why she was in the washing machine.I wish I could find a VN that mindfucked me as hard as ever17
>>343482348
But in VLR, the explanation is that stronger espers absorb the resonances of the weaker
Ok, complexity aside, why was Gab getting shot a good thing? He was such a good doggo
>VLR
>super complex plan to send consciousness to the past
>ZTD
>let's just jump around, no problem at all, even people that can't usually do it
>>343478908
It needs to be brighter and match her eyebrows.
>>343482212
It's possible that heMIND HACKedher into pushing the button, but I'm pretty sure Diana staying in the bunker is her own decisionas Delta is dead by this point.
>NOOOOO WE CAN'T SHIFT MUH MORALdilemma
>Junpei and Carlos shift to save their hides a fuckton of times in rapid succession not even that long ago
>>343482525
>VLR
>jumping causes memory loss until you constantly use it
>ZTD
>brand new jumpers have all their memories without any explanation, but even bringing Blick Winkle as an excuse
>>343482212No, it's not bullshit. I think it's possible that he didn't mindhack her but she was definitely not showing some of her other colors. She definitely has multiple personality but not as in the disorder. More like, when she's stressed as fuck she'll become abusive and try to get her way. And if she can't she'll play the victim and try to suicide until she gets what she wants out of pity.
>>343482525
>999
>Junpei is an esper, later realizes Akane is too
>VLR
>Sigma is an esper, realizes Phi is too
>ZTD
>YOU CAN SHIFT, AND YOU CAN SHIFT, AND YOU GUYS CAN SHIFT BUT JUST THIS ONCE
>>343482492
I wanted to play it but people said that the translation is bad
>mfw I made pic related
>mfw pressed the button and cracked up
>>343482590
>completely fine shifting 2 people into gatling gun fire
>all 3 of them fire sending people into a reactor explosion
>>343482493
>999
>you have receivers and senders for the morphogenetic field, they have seperate powers
>VLR
>actually it goes both ways but when strong espers are around weaker ones can't use it
>ZTD
>being around other espers actually makes it stronger and with enough espers makes non-espers into espers
There's no continuity at all.
>>343482764
Well I mean Delta needed as many SHIFTers as possible for his plan to succeed
>>343482806
it's not
>>343482764
they had four "awakened" espers in close vicinity which apparently resonated to give the other's their powers
>>343482847
>press the button
>it just fucking explodes
i laughed too, but why the fuck was that even a decision
That feeling when I enjoyed seeing Akane having Junpei die on top of her in the fireplace.
I am a bad man.
>"Guys this game is only possible thanks to you! it was made for you!"
>That ending
We picked "Ally", but Uchi picked "Betray" after all...
>>343482698
it was addressed once when carlos came back
you keep your memories if you're around enough espers
that's why carlos "just knows" the password instead of remembering why he knows
>>343482979
DO IT
FUCKING DO IT
>>343479292
It's introduced in the final entry in the game, the one that should be wrapping everything up, with no foreshadowing, and isn't even explored that well. It's just, "Oh, I guess we have aliens now." If the technology wasn't explicitly said to be made by aliens or didn't look like alien technology, it could have the exact same role and be at least a little better. If the series was oriented around alien technology from the first or second game, that'd be fine. The concept isn't inherently bad, but the execution in ZTD absolutely is.
>>343482914
What plan? All he wanted was a group of people who wanted to stop a single terrorist, why couldn't he do that on his own?
>>343482850
>>all 3 of them fire sending people into a reactor explosion
While D-Team was still alive mind you. They literally killed them.
>>343483018
I'm sure you people are all shitposters
VLR's ending was more bullshit than this
999's ending had more plot holes and unresolved shit
ZTD is actually the most solid game in the series
>>343483045
It's complex
>>343483063
Oh yeah, man at the time I was annoyed at that until I realized it was Akane suggesting it, proving she will never evolve past 999/VLR Akane.
>>343482979
I think it was a nod to all the decisions in VLR that led to literally the same giant explosion that kills everyone.
Kinda like how most of C-team's deaths are gruesome like in 999.
>your best plan to kill one guy with as much information and power at your fingertips as delta is to kill 6 billion people and hope you hit the jackpot
>>343482493
SHIFTers do that.
ZTD establishes that there are three esper types: Morpho's, SHIFTers, and Mind Hackers. Morpho's boost each other, SHIFTers absorb the essence of weaker espers, and Mind Hackers are unnaffected by either of them. Being good at one means your worse as the other. Junpei, a Morpho, isn't good at SHIFTing until he's around Carlos, a natural SHIFTer, and Akane, who in general is a strong psychic. With enough training, you can presumably be strong at either.
What happens is the different routes train the different party members, who then upload their memories/thoughts/skill to the Morphogenetic Field, which are then downloaded into their bodies, so they remember how to SHIFT. In essence, the Carlos, Junpei, Akane, Phi, Sigma and Diana of the farthest left route are a combination of every possible version of themselves that played the Decision Game.
>>343483102
>999's ending had more plot holes and unresolved shit
Such as?
>>343483102
Except VLR explained all the stuff related to the game only leaving the things for the sequel vague obviously.
>>343483283
read the Q&As again
so, guys...
d-do you think we live in the timeline where ZTD sells surprisingly well and uchi gets to make a ZE4 that follows c team going the terrorist and ties up every single plothole perfectly?
it's a possibility, r-right...
How hard is Junpei going to smash her vagina?
>>343483018
>The person who made ZTD is you.
Hey, don't push the blade on to me, I wasn't responsible for this.Shitposting jokes aside, I think ZTD was my favourite game of the series. I really liked the cinematic style used and the fragment system added some crazy surprises, like the Pantry.
>>343483102
>VLR's ending was more bullshit
>999 had more plot holes and unresolved shit
You really need to give your reasoning for both of these before I write you off as a complete and total fucking retard.
>>343483334
I don't even want a ZE4, I would rather have a mulligan ZE3.
>there are people in this thread that think aliens are real, not realizing that the Transporter is the masterwork of the 1904!Phi, whose resonance with her brother allowed her to become an impossibly powerful esper as they aged.
>>343482806
play it you fuck
it's infinitely better than the shitfest that is zero kyle dilemma
>>343483018
Yeah I'm pretty fucking disappointed and aggravated at the ending we got
>it's all because of you that this game exists!
>doesn't answer half the shit he promised to
>introduces horrible elements to cater to the newcomers because ZE newfags are more important than people who supported 999 and VLR
>gives us the garbage conclusion that is ZTD
goddamn
the more I think about this the more MAD I get
I will never NOT be mad
So you're telling me that Delta, who lived for fucking years and obviously had a lot of resources and followers, couldn't find that terrorist without going full 6 billion? Even his powers are perfectly suited for it.
>>343483334
It's game over, man. Let it go.
>>343481661
>We will never have a ZTD where Snake is a participant, isn't Brother, and is voiced by Gideon Emery
>>343483334
I won't give that hack my money again
>>343483042
They could have just said some random German scientist got the blueprints for it through the morphogenetic field and built it, not really knowing what it was. But no, it had to be aliens.
>>343483374
Glad you like it. I think it might be because I finished it a few hours ago but ZTD might be my least favorite ZE game by a significant margin.
>>343482083
They were all real. When you put Junpei's arm in the microwave Carlos will say it feels sticky and gross.
>>343483102
/v/
I want to take you into my office and talk to you for a moment.
I know there are a lot of suicidal and depressed individuals on this board but no matter how low you fall, know that you will never descend this low
For it takes true genuine talent to be this outright worthless and wrong in every possible conceivable mannerThere does not even exist a timeline where this creature is correct
>>343483429
the terrorist was DIO
read between the lines
What was your first OH FUCK moment thanks to the fragment system?
I played a lot of Q team at first, so mine was seeing Akane get Carlos'd
>>343483463
So they can reveal that the terrorist is actually an alien and that's why they couldn't find him
>>343481212
Goddammit,why did she have to deny the cast (and us) the truth? Someone ask Uchi why she felt the need to cut him off like that!
>that feel when my expectations for Free The Soul and Brother will never be realized
>>343483659
Fuck aliens. Trump was right, we should build a wall.
>>343483334
He's gonna make the next game newcomer friendly which is why it won't resolve those plot pointsBut seriously, this game is gonna bomb whether or not you were satisfied with the game. Life is simply unfair
>>343483640
I literally picked the Pantry for my first fragment.
Junpei's been my favourite character in both of the previous games. It was a legitimately great way to start the game.
>>343483837
I don't know why they went with 3D models and full voice acting, both of them felt very unnecessary.
Guys, I have a question. This was my first Zero Escape game. Who is Junpy and why is he so important?
>>343483903
because the game is clearly trying to capitalize on the success of stuff like Life is Strange and the Telltale games
>>343482048
Gordon loves gourmet food and anyone that calls their restaurant high class will get scrutinized by him.
>>343483965
protag from 999
>no old man in a wheelchair
>no terrorist causing a nuclear war, Brother just wants to purge humanity
how much would these simple changes improve the game?
>>343483726
WHOA, ANON
THAT OPINION IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT ZTD WAS A PERFECT GAME AND ANY OTHER OPINION LABELS YOU AS A <PERSONAL INSULT HERE>, EXCLAMATION POINT
>>343484065
Life is Strange is a bit too recent for it to have influenced the development of ZTD in such a significant way, but I do think the Telltale Games were an influence.
Not even necessarily to cash in on success though, Uchi is westaboo as fuck and I bet he digs it. I bet he very easily arrived at the thought "Okay, how can I use this form of adventure storytelling to tell a twist about how you're seeing from Zero's point of view?"
>>343484169
>brother is snake
>alice is mira and eric's daughter sent to the far past by machine
>clover is junpei and akane's daughter
>>343483463
Yeah, that's what I meant. If he needed the machine as a plot device to get himself out of a corner, fine, but there was no need to suddenly establish that there are aliens in the universe so late, when nothing comes off it.
>>343484169
That's all I wanted. I just wanted Brother to just be an antagonist who sees all timelines and sees humanity cannot be redeemed. I also want Radical-6 outbreak to be an intentional thread by Free The Soul instead of a single accidental outcome on a single timeline. At a certain point you completely lose the feeling that everyone even gives a fuck about Radical-6.
>>343484169
If his only objective was to release Radical-6 there would be no point in holding any kind of nonary game.
>>343484169
I really wish the game subverted the "all for the greater good" endings of the first 2 games and just had the Decision Game to be some sort of plan by brother to release Radical-6 in every possible timeline, and the characters have to use their SHIFT powers to overcome an otherwise impossible situation.
>>343482048
Because Gordon can only tolerate the pretentious world known as fine dining
>>343483873
Same, I fucking yelled when I saw what was inside the freezer
>>343482508
Translation awkwardness. I'm assuming in Japanese Delta said something like 「いい事を教えてやる」. Although that literally means "I'm going to tell you a good thing," the figurative meaning is closer to "I'm going to tell you a secret" or "I'm going to tell you something interesting."
Was it just me, or did ZTD's translation feel a bit more awkward than previous games? I noticed it especially whenever they brought up Carlos' sister complex.
>999: The end justifies the means
>ZTD: Junpei the end does not justifies the means!
>Beginning: I'm gonna save the world, and not even Junpei can stop me
>One of the endings: Fuck you you killed Junpei I'm gonna have my vengeance
Why didJumpy fall for Akane's hypocritical pussy again?
>>343483102
>ZTD is actually the most solid game in the series
Aksys_Danny pls. Just focus on giving us our watches instead of selling it to Anime Expo attendees.
>>343484370
I felt like the whole brother being born in the bunker was such a lazy way to try to give him a motive for why he wanted to create the decision game.
What was with the developers being so focused on making this game newcomer friendly? It's the last game in the series so it's not like VLR where there was any executive meddling to try and make it reach a broader audience. It felt pretty odd whenever Akane and Junpei talked about the events of 999 and neither, Junpei especially, ever brought up thatAkane was Zero
>>343484358
My pre-release guess was: Brother was making them play the Decision game as one last test for humanity, to see if it was worth anything. If they "failed", he would release Radical-6. Like >>343484354 said, I just wanted a Zero who WASN'T working for a greater good - or in this case, a Zero whose greater good was terrible for everyone else.
>>343483431
Delta understands everything, and is never confused.
>>343484454
To put it bluntly, she's really hot.
>>343480392
Same. I loved how he would try to compete withSeanover simple things.
Truly /v/ incarnate
>>343484663
This game was barely made in the first place, with minimal expectations. It would therefore make sense to reach out to a broader audience to maximize sales
Why the fuck is literally every timeline Delta suicidal?
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>>343479569
it's not the best idea to conceive children in alien pods
In the biolab, what was the hint for the specimen puzzle? I didn't see the connection so I just tried every combination until something worked
