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Discuss snails.
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TEN MONTHS
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10642144
Vote for best boy.
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I really like Q's design
Both of them
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>>343449159
Reminder that there are 2 Carlos in every timeline
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>>343449159
I-I just wanted to save my friends
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>>343449052
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>>343449232
uchikoshi does it again
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I've been really enjoying discussing, theorizing and funposting in these threads with all of you fellow ZEanons over the past few days. I'm glad we could all band together one more time.
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Q (the 124 years old one)
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The biggest surprise in the game is how Akane has great hips and ass. Fuck Mira and her eye candy shit
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Reposting cause thread died

Blick-Winkel here.

Friendly reminder the ZTD stream will start next Friday the usual time
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>>343449336
Shut the fuck up.
Same, anon. It really has been fun.
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>>343449232
Yeah, but what does Virtues Last Reward mean?
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>there are people who didn't like hot dog joke
>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
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Are we just gonna continue pretending Akane didn't organize the death of 3 people in cold blood in 999 and was ready to fly off the fucking handle if anything hurt her Jumpy in ZTD?

At least Mr. COMPLEX was a smug shit to her about it.
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Is carlos gay?
>super handsome
>muscular
>blonde
>'no time for love life'
>loves his little sister
>interested in Junpei
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>>343449052
I really liked Zero's monologues. It was the most eloquent bitching and whining I've ever heard.

>IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS!!! SEAN WAS MEANT TO LIVE!! HE WAS A GOOD BOY!!
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I want to FUCK Carlos
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>>343449434
How did you like the game?
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>>343449349
It's a best boy thread, not a best girl thread.
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>>343449521
The biggest homo
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H-How did she survive anon?
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>>343449521
Definitely.
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>>343449432
I unexpectedly loved Phi's ass too, great outfit choice to emphasize it. If only she realized what goodness she has down there instead of focusing solely on her fluctuating-sized boobs.
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>>343449515
I stopped after three times what did I miss? Does Sigma start crying or something?
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>Your decisions can materialize us
>materialize us
>us

Reminder that old Phi helped Delta organize the decision game.

Reminder that one of them is Akane and Aoi's grandparent.

Maybe even both of them.
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>>343449528
SEAN WAS 12
HE LOVED TO READ THE BOOKS
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>>343449515
>>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
>tfw Sigma and Diana probably had lots of sex in that shower
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Violence with children makes me very uneasy. So the whole Q is a robot makes me feel much better about the whole thing.
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>>343449673
>she didn't even realize she was giving birth to twins
>18 INCHES
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>>343449673
It's okay, her insides can expand to the size of the moon.
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>doesn't have anyone to go to prom with
>goes with his cat
Why is this man so based?
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Just finished it.

What a shitty ending, senpaitachi. Hold me.
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Can someone explain the Q / Sean shit that went down? I beat the game and went through the files, and I still don't get it at all.
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Question regarding something that always bugged me in the VLR Q Room:
How was I supposed to find the squares that released part of the walls with the shitty cube? I literally guessed and they all came out after some trial and error. It seemed like Minesweeper, but not at the same time.
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>>343449852
Read the files amd stop using ebonics if you dont want your post to be ignored and discarded
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>>343449528
There's something about this Zero, man
>Goddamnit fucking shit Akane why are you such an hypocrite bitch, Mira go chop Junpei to pieces and bring them to me, let's teach her a lesson
In another timeline
>Holy fucking shit Junpei propose to her already, shit, Sean time to set the four gatling guns we prepared
In another timeline
>I can't handle this melodramatic romance, where's that gas mask
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>>343449956
It was minesweeper without mines and not counting diagonals I believe.
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Just started this. God the animation is awful, but the banter is tip top.

>you're getting there in age, sigma

>Hey sigma, try dying.

>oh, a vent. Phi, you're up.
>I won't repear myself. My breasts are D cups.


>Akane's glare when junpei tells her to access the m-field

>someone likes cake too much
>chop your arm off, asshole
>Junpei still cracks awful jokes


>turbo hitler literally say "you could have prevented this"

I bet Mira is the heart ripper.
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>>343449852
read the files faget
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>>343449825
Sexual assault with children makes me very uneasy. So the whole Q is a robot makes me feel much better about the whole thing.
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>>343449825
>no blood on Q/Sean whenever he died
>I thought it was simple censorship since he was a child
>nope, he's a super-tough robot who was faking every death and can only be damaged by alien metal
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>>343449904
In 2011, Sean was a kid who was dying, but who was very, very smart. Delta kept visiting him in the hospital, bringing him books, and the boy would tell him what he thought. Delta offered to give the boy a job after he was cured, but he died because of the Mira / Akane's parents / Eric's mom shenanigans.
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can anybody upload the premium booklet to some filesharing site or at least post the story portions?
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Holy shit what was with all the packing puzzles and cube puzzles?
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>>343450039
Which team do I follow?
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GIVE ME
SIGMA AND DIANA
DOUJINS NOW
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>>343449159
>YEAH, but then I wouldn't have met you guys
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>>343450149
sigma and phi doujins WHEN
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FBR death rate = 100%
Radical 6 death rate = 75%
"Fanatic" Bio R
75% of 8 billion is 6 billion

FORESHADOWING
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I just ended the game, why the fuck Mira killed Junpei? I don't get any of that.
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>>343449232
fuck me
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>>343450149
>not diana and her drunk wifebeater husband doujins
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>still no porn
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Some Anon in the last thread asked what the best moments were:
Serious:
>Phi alone at DCOM
For fun
>Shoot me
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>>343450337
do not bully the diana
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>>343449478
i still don't know this
i get the japanese title though
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>>343450114
>>343447291
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>>343450161
>doesn't even get a thankyou for being a meat shield for a girl he hardly knows

Carlos had a hard life
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>>343449521
Definitely. Best husbando.
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>>343450161
he just wanted to hang
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>>343450295
Maybe cuz she's a literal serial killer.
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well?
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>>343450101
>>Delta offered to give the boy a job after he was cured

>there is an alternate timeline where the snail didn't fuck everyone's shit up
>Sean got better
>Delta gave him that job
>Sean became a Free the Soul cultist
>he was the one who killed Alice's father

:^)
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When's the game with the actual conclusion?
Instant fucking refund.
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>>343450386
Get creative and make it yourself.
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>>343449515
>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times
What happens if you do? Any screens?
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>>343450295
Use spoilers tags anon.

It's because she's a psycho killer, ques ca se That's all there is to it, I think.
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>>343450387
Best moment was clearly pushing the "Do not push" button
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>>343450386
never say never
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>>343450295
because she is the Heart Ripper. BTW why was the whole team cool with her being the killer in Payoff 2 ending? She really fucked up some lives beside killing them in different histories for fun
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>>343450101
I get that part, but I don't understand why Eric and Mira called Sean "Q", yet after the reveal, you're given a file that states that everyone has always called him Sean, and that Q is what they call Delta.

Also, how does Delta even fit into the story? It seems to me that you're playing as him (like when you make decisions for the characters), but how come he appears in person in a few scenes? Do the characters see him coming and going?
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>>343450501
No Gab, you are a dog and that is bestiality.
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>>343450507
Delta doesn't exist if the snail doesn't exist.
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>>343450546
I've already fapped to both the pictures more than enough
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>>343449598
Just as much as everyone else it would seem. I liked the ride, but was disappointed with the destination.
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>>343449904
Read the files.
Delta was there the whole time. Nobody never referred to Sean as Q.
And there is a SHITLOAD of foreshadowing to it, including:

Saying "Sean" to Eric
You can see his shadow sometimes
Mira referring to "old man", but the camera pans over Gab
Announcer saying Q is dead, while Sean is still seen alive
Gab's medicine was for him
Orher teams scream "Eric! Mira!"
"Who would anyone kill Q?"
People not questioning when announcer says Q, but freaking out when they see his body
"Together we are ten. Delta"
Mira shooting twice. You can even hear Q fallinf out of chair.
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>>343450387
Serious
>D2
For fun
Anything with Carlos, really.
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>>343450161
6 BILLION CARLOS
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Best boy. No question. Thanks god he had no face "animation"

His VA(both) were too feminine though and when I saw his portrait in the study room I was afraid he would be a reverse trap.
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>>343450392
I want to punch and fuck Diana in front of her friends!
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>>343450532
Sorry, I forgot. I'll delete the post. But my question was how she wasn't sleeping, and how she found Junpei.
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>>343450584
do they actually call him Q? I don't think I recall that, the player just assumes he's Q because he is the 3rd Q team member
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>>343450161
>It's just a prank bro
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>>343450584
when they where talking to Q in every scene they were talking to the old man
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>>343450714
>"I'm interested in you, Junpei"
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After finishing the game, I feel bad for Diana remembering that she chose to let her daughter burn to death.
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>>343450542
I only thought Sigma in that scene was pretty funny.
>Maybe there is a bomb and pushing the button will disable it!
The setup itself was meh.
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>>343449478
>>343450435
"Will you prove your Virtue and choose "Ally"? Or will you choose 'Betray" and send your companions to their Last Reward?"
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THE FUCK?1?
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Why is no one mad at Mira at the end? Why arent they immediately subduing her?

She is at fault for all this shit.

Also how come Delta got live a 124 years, why do we get so little info about him
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>>343449515
>there are people who didn't enter shower 10 times

I'm sorry, what?
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>>343450802
>Akane is actually Carlos and Junpei's daughter
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>>343450724
I could have misinterpreted it but didn't Delta say she was undrugged? Or was that only the amnesia one.
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Finished the game, ending felt pretty flat but the adventure, with all its twists and turns, was great.
I hate this feel.
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Who else spoiled the Delta is Zero and he was always standing there twist by getting the Perceptive Ending by accident?
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>>343450876
Too complex for you to understand.
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>>343450838
>setup itself was meh
But that's exactly it, seeing Diana do this really fucking derpy face as she presses the button, goes "HEH?", Phi's expression and suddenly a big nuclear explosion was just too fucking hilarious that I couldn't stop laughing for the next ten minutes.
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>>343450661
Correction.
Sean's body
Also, when Zero says Q is their leader, Mira says "Are you kidding me?"
And the camera sometimes panned in a really strange ways in Q fragments. Like when they're cutting chains.

The game never contradicted itself. It simply made you assume
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>>343450582
They weren't cool with it. Read the files.
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>>343450876
This, and does fucking Eric not know that she killed his mom
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>>343449478
Virtue refers to what one has when they are virtuous which is to show high moral standard. To be ethical. To be a good person.

If one is Virtuous in the AB game then they will get betrayed. They will die. Their last reward is death.

Virtue's Last Reward refers to the death one receives should they choose to ally. It's a subtle hint to the player what will happen most of the time they ally as well as a way of naming the game almost literally "Death".
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>>343450981
how do you even get it by accident without getting spoiled on the internet?
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>>343450714
>Carlos is Dianas husband
>we know he has rapist tendencies with akane
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>>343450981

I actually thought Delta was supposed to be me the player so Zero would have been the player.
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>>343450802
"The more you resist the more I want to put it in"
what did he mean by this
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>>343451059
Read.
The.
Files.
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>>343450661
I never noticed Sean still alive when the announcer said Q was dead. That said, did any of the characters realize or address the fact that Sean wasn't even on the board? And why is the status screen of Q just a picture of some circuits?
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How's the PC port, guys?
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>>343451054
OK senpai
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>>343451075
No it isn't, the last reward is the good ending
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>>343451092

I thought Delta may have been Q's(Sean) real name.
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>>343450708
I was so convinced he was going to be a young Phi. His voice was feminine and also the way he acted, especially when Eric tells him and Mira the story about his mother. The decal on his helmet also looks like the hair clip Phi wears in VLR.
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>>343451092
Do stranded pair and just enter delta for shit and giggles.
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>>343451130
He has rapist tendencies
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>>343449850
I don't understand
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>>343451110
This would be a good twist actually.
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>>343451176
>carlos say's if he dies from shifting he'll kill jumpei
>get's shot up by machine guns
>doesn't kill jumpei

I really thought he was going to be the one who dismembered him
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PS TV support WHEN
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>>343451176
didnt have any issues with it
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>>343450760
Oh that's right, I completely forgot about that. I think he said he has amnesia, so he never really says his name. You're right, I just assumed he was Q
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>>343450876
It's not her fault. It was the snail's fault.
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>>343451275
ME TOO. I already knew that he wasn't young Phi because I got spoilered early on with the name "Sean", but I really really wanted it to be true
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Somebody for the love of god tell me what happens if you get into the shower more than 10 times I don't want to replay another goddamn puzzle room
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>>343450981
I went to get that ending immediately after D2 and just didn't know what to make of it. I thought it was a joke ending.
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>>343451276
This is what I did and I didn't understand what just happened. I assumed they had shot the player and that it'd get revealed elsewhere that Delta got shifted with ??? or something like that.
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>>343451092
First, I tried "Q", thinking that was Sean's name. The message said something like "That's not Q's full name".

As soon as the name Delta appeared, I tried to input that in the decision, and I got that spoilerific ending.
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>>343451317
One of the famitsu pages said he went to prom with his cat.
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>>343451152
>That said, did any of the characters realize or address the fact that Sean wasn't even on the board?
That's precisely why Eric is SO suspicious of him throughout the whole game. Also EVERYONE is suspicious of him during the initial coin flip but none of them remember that and 99 percent of players forget that when everyone on C and D starts talking about how they know Q.

>And why is the status screen of Q just a picture of some circuits?

Because it's Q as in Delta. He doesn't have a doll on the wall in the study just like how Sean doesn't have an X pass and thus isn't on the status screen.
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>>343451131
how? the menu after the ending doesnt let you access the files
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>>343451152
Because otherwise you would've revealed who Q is. Even Crash Keys twitter omitted Participant 4
>did any of the characters realize or address the fact that Sean wasn't even on the board?
Eric was constantly saying that Sean is suspicious as fuck. And the names always appear after a character died.
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>>343451276
I also did this because I was stuck and trying everything.
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>Open the status menu after the twins are born
>Q and Phi are alive
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>>343451682
just pick a part of the game and enter it
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>>343450030
Don't forget the way he talked when Mira was present
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I_5si-fDcos
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>>343451128
I also thought this. I also thought it meant Sigma was my dad and thus god or some shit...
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>>343451545
Nothing. It was a joke, damnit.
But still, do it.
For Diana.
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>>343451578
I actually thought the ending was a 4rd wall breaking one myself. A blick winkel type moment for this game.
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>>343449052
I'm 12 hours in and I think its the worst zero escape.
The other games grabbed my attention and didn't let go till the end. Here I'm just going through the motions and waiting for real shit to hit the fan. Also Q team a shit, the other 2 games had meh characters but here I'm forced to stick with the 3 worst characters for 1/3rd of the game. Not just that but Carlos is lame, Junpei is an asshole now and Akanes a bitch.
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>>343451968
Also thought this.
But then he says something in latin (don't remember what is was) and I just thought:
Did I just spoil myself? What the hell.
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>>343450030
>IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS!!! SEAN WAS MEANT TO LIVE!! HE WAS A GOOD BOY!!
>>Goddamnit fucking shit Akane why are you such an hypocrite bitch, Mira go chop Junpei to pieces and bring them to me, let's teach her a lesson
>>Holy fucking shit Junpei propose to her already, shit, Sean time to set the four gatling guns we prepared In another timeline
>>I can't handle this melodramatic romance, where's that gas mask
Sounds like something that pic related would say.
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>>343451176
Does it run on toasters?

When 999 and VLR come out on Steam I may buy all three of them.
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>>343452064

>Carlos is lame

Keep playing fuccboi
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>>343452064
Well you should get out of this thread before someone SNAKE IS ZERO
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Zero is Delta
Phi and Delta are the children of Sigma and Diana, who were sent back in time to 1904 using Alien technology
Phi was then sent to 2008
Zero/Delta trapped everyone to cause the circumstances under which he would be born and to instill in them the beleif that the future can be changed in order to prevent a terrorist attack in the future
Mira is a Serial Killer and killed Eric's mother, who took the wrong path because of a snail, which caused Akane's parents to kill themselves due to a wrongful accusation, which prevented Sean (the helmet kid) from being saved by akane's dad.
Zero/Delta visited the genius Sean in hospital and recreated him in a Quantum computer after his death.
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I really loved the game despite it being really crap in the animation and graphics department. Can you emulate the older ones on PC or some shit?
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>>343451959
Fuck you I thought there was going to be some kind of bonus dialogue for being persistent
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>>343452231
See that's the problem. I have to keep playing and despite being half way through the game he's still meh.
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>>343452275
Yes?
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How the fuck did Delta even know he was born in that facility? This knowledge alone triggered the events of this entire game, but the fact that he knows is kinda strange.
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>>343452198
Would explain his eyes. Bet he was a whiner the whole 124 years of his life.
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>>343452373
He mindhacked Sigma at birth
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>>343452275
Volume 4 confirmed
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>>343452275
>which prevented Sean (the helmet kid) from being saved by akane's dad.
The surgeon was somebody else. He boarded the cab instead of Akane's father who got arrested.
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>>343452097
Yeah, the latin was the true spoiler.
What pisses me off is that it didn't need to show that possibility in the flowchart. It's just an easter egg.
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>>343450501
I wonder what it feels like to watch a clone of yourself get laid while you're stuck in a dog
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>>343452373
M I N D H A C K
Probably just meme field shenanigans
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>>343452373
probably muh mindhack somewhere along the way. Or maybe the transporter researchers could tell where/when he came from
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Do Sigma, Diana and Phi get a happy ending? Didn't see anything about them in the files.
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Did you support the games devs or did you pirate it?
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>>343452286
Your fault for hyping yourself up.
See? That's the problem with /v/. People set up really specific expectations and then get disappointed when game doesn't meet them.
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>that cringeworthy scene with jumpei beating up carlos to bond like some shit from persona 4

>that cringe ending scene where all the characters do a one liner in response to the world being doomed "8 billion people die? SCREW THAT"
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>>343452198
>>343452387
/r/ edit of that wojak with Delta.
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>>343452373
It's so complex that he had no time to explain.
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>>343452460
Do you or anybody remember what he says? Iam too lazy to start my DS now.
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>>343452579
that ending scene was really bad.
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>>343452575
stop ruining my dreams anon
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>>343452373
COMPLEX
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>>343452556
I this sells even 100,000 copies i'll eat my hat
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Delta in a nutshell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wisHcuBzTCM
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>>343452614
Audentem Forsque Venusque iuvat.
"Both love and luck help the bold".
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Why was Zero so intent on bullying Diana, but not Sigma?
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>>343450273
oh shit nice catch

also, want to hear everyone's theories on where the fuck Kyle is. Most solid one so far to me is that he's Gab, and the player character, who previously inhabited Gab, was set free and allowed to act as the morphogenetic field during the previously unknown events of ztd.

more like I refuse to believe unca uchi just discarded that plot point entirely just fuck my shit up
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>>343452556
Took part in Operation Bluebird, you bet your ass I wasn't going to pirate the game we got from it
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>>343452556
I pirated it. Glad I did.
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>>343452535
Yes
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>>343452579
I bet Kazutaka wrote that scene
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>>343452556
I bought it on steam myself
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>>343452556
Well they got my $40 on release.
But at this point, people pirate purely for cost instead of things like DRM and shit.
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>>343452779
Because it's fun to bully Diana.
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>>343452556
I pirated the PC version and am still awaiting my watch version due to Amazon.
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>>343452765
I like remembering latin phrases, but fuck that one.
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>>343452724
S-SNAILS AND SHIT
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>>343451756
That's pretty neat
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>>343452696
No. Get down to Earth and accept harsh reality. I bet you were one of those "I'll off myself after playing the greates game that will ever be made : MGS V!" people.
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>>343452923
Checked
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>>343452579
>that cringeworthy scene with jumpei beating up carlos to bond like some shit from persona 4
are you retarded
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>>343452387
>"Left, why do you look so much more handsome and trustworthy than me, as if people would pick ally just by seeing your face?"
>"Why am I named like a goddamned Greek letter? What kind of faggot fratboy must my father have been?"
>"THEY KILLED LEFT, IT'S NOT FAIR! I'LL CHANGE MY NAME TO SOMETHING LESS RETARDED LIKE BROTHER AND FOUND A CULT TO CREATE A BETTER HUMANITY!"
>"I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS TERRORIST IS, BETTER KILL OFF 75% OF HUMANITY INSTEAD OF MIND-HACKING THE PRESIDENT INTO CARPET-BOMBING SYRIA OR SOME SHIT!"
>"MY MOTIVATIONS ARE COMPLEX, DON'T QUESTION ME NORMIE REEEEEEEEEE"
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>>343452937
Many keks were had during this game, I just forgot them cause I marathonned the shit out of it.
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>>343452779
because she is a used up whore
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>>343451130
Wait a second, at what point did Carlos say this? I've played through most of the game (and know most of the major plot twists).

And why did he do that to Akane? I mean, I never thought Carlos would be the one reviewers were talking about when they were complaining about an "Attempted Rape" scene...
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>>343452556
Bought the 3DS version and loved it, but I think I'll pirate the PC version whenever I'll feel like replaying it. I'm not such a saint as to double-dip.
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I thought ZTD was pretty neat
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>>343453097
>reviewers were talking about when they were complaining about an "Attempted Rape" scene
Who would have guessed?
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>>343452990
>MGS V
God damn I will never forget the disappointment this game brought me. I was disappointed in how Delta turned out, but the rest of ZTD was really satisfying. MGS V just repeatedly was not satisfying
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>>343452813
>Russian coat of arms
Every time
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>>343453017
I know it's a jap trope. But it actually happens in persona 4 with MC and youske
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>>343452556
Supported it so much, I bought it twice, Once on 3DS (Fuck playing on it though, hurts my eyes) and again on Steam.
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>>343453145
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Please refrain from discussing ztd until I have a chance to play through vlr, thanks.
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>>343452937
Best sequence in the game. Felt like 999 again, with Jumpy protecting Akane, and her acting all damsel in distress.

I'm really pissed that there were no "Jumpy" and "Kanny" in this game by the way. Apparently they are in the japanese script, but whoever localized it took it out.
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>>343453097
He was just fooling around
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>>343453220
but that's not what the scene in ZTD was about at all
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>>343453243
Edgy
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So was the secret ending from VLR just basically retconned out of existence? Like, we just pretend it never happened, since every single plot point that was brought up in it ended up being dropped?

>Kyle never went back with Sigma
>Clover and Alice never mentioned again
>Phi being an 'X-factor' and being unable to tell ? what happened at the test site because it would cause the future to be locked (despite there only being one possible, extremely specific set of circumstances that leads to VLR's timeline which is the only one where they could be standing on the moon in the first place)
>? going back or existing whatsoever, because the manipulator forcing people to pick crazy choices was eventually revealed to be MINDHACKS with ? never showing up either


Honestly it makes me sad to think of all the aborted plot threads from VLR. I thought this one was meant to clear everything up.
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>>343453243
Is there any significant meaning to the matryoshka alongside the truth is invisble line?

Should have thrown a lot of red flags given the status screen.
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>>343451478
diana has a lot of greek in her
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>>343453289
There was Jumpy (Junpei-kun) from Akane, but no Kanny from Junpei.
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>>343453243
Oh dear
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>>343451756
>it's true

UCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>343452556
I supported it and bought a copy
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>>343453029
>"How could she KICK me, she was supposed to be afraid of my MIND HACKing powers"
>"You can't shoot me, I DINDU NUFFIN, REALLY. It's not like I'm the leader of some evil cult"
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>>343453097
Healing room
When he was not talking about his sister he was talking about Junpei, and when he was not talking about Junpei he was gonna be murdered by Akane.
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>>343453405
I think ZTD's Apocalypse ending (where R6 is released) ends a month or two before VLR actually starts?

It wasn't necessarily retconned, just wasn't the goal of this game.
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>>343453289
Bad localization from 999.

Jumpy and Kanny were literally Junpei-kun / Akane
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>>343453405
? is Blick Winkel is the player is the morphogenic field.
-Some tweet I don't have saved

Everything else was dropped, though, yeah. THE DOCTOR WOULD NEVER ABANDON KYLE!
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>>343453405
The only dropped plot point was Kyle

>people honestly believe Uchikoshi meant for Clover and Alice's story to go anywhere after VLR

What's it like to have autism?
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>>343453310
Yes it was, he even says shit like now we are even, and we were doing some bonding when they ask him why he's all beat up.
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Who else was disappointed at Eric's backstory having no relevance in the story?
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>>343453405
>>343453542
To expand, you have to realize retconning in this series is basically impossible with the timeline shit. Nothing is lost, just a different perspective.

You may be trying to imply that given ZTD's plot VLR doesn't NEED to happen.
That's up to interpretation.
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>>343453542
???
ZTD starts on 31 December.
Sigma gets abducted on christmas.
Alice and Clover 2 or 3 days before.
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>>343453405
I have a lot of thoughts about how ZTD might not even be the end of the ZE universe's problems...but, for now I'll cut all that shit out and just say that I like to think that the "VLR" that ZTD leads up to isn't the same as the one we know, which explains the lack of continuity in some places.
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>>343453682
I seriously disliked that dude, was pretty happy to find out he had literally no importance in the plot.
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>>343453523
>I DINDU NUFFIN, REALLY
Well at that point he hadn't legally done anything wrong. Just having a cult isn't a crime as seen with Scientology.
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>>343453682
i thought he was gonna be brother
nope apparently hes just some annoying douchebag with a traumatic past
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>No final puzzle room

Biggest letdown of the entire game, though at least it wasn't dice
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>>343453717
I mean regarding where you go back to Akane in VLR, that's after the Apocalypse ending.
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>still no Vita TV compatiblity patch

Is there any other glitches in the vita version I should know about?
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>>343453669
he was joking, autist
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>>343453682
There's always one faggot/whore in each game that's there for no apparent reason so I wasn't surprised
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>>343453682
I cared so little about this character.

I don't really know why, I think I was just interested in other characters way more and felt like whenever he talked he was wasting my time.
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>>343453243
Was there any meaning to all the different artstyles here?
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>>343453807
Zero mentions the date for that in the Apo. ending. can't remember though.
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>>343453652
>THE DOCTOR WOULD NEVER ABANDON KYLE!
SIGMA IS WORST DAD. WORST!
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>>343453243

So what's the meaning behind the toys?

>Phi is a paper doll because she's so flat
>Carlos is a Barbie accessory because he's handsome I guess?
>Q is a Matryoshka because he can remove his head
>Junpei is a voodoo doll because he gave one to Akane in 999's past
>Eric is a DAMN BRAT because he's a massive manchild all game

Anyone else figure out the rest?
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>>343453303
Ah, that's good. Was that really what SJWs were complaining about though? What the fuck.
>>343453524
Christ. Maybe he has some minor sadistic tendencies.
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Sigma holy shit, you had a hard life ;_;7
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>>343453786
I think the Force Quit Box was supposed to be the final puzzle room, in a sense. In VLR, the Q room was the culmination of the entire game, and it's where Sigma is able to utilize his knowledge learned from different timelines.

They couldn't really do much more than that in ZTD. Everyone has already shifted a shitload of times so there wouldn't be much impact.
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>>343453780
They at the very least killed Alice's father. Yeah, it was probably through some company they were in the shadow of like Cradle Pharmaceuticals, but they're definitely still criminals.
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>>343452581
All I'm willing to do.
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>>343453848
The entire Q team is worthless and unnecessary. They only fill up a quota of having a cast of 9 characters.
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>>343453964
Akane is moe!
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>>343453682
He's effectively the Lotus of the game in the backstory is connected to the events that brought things to this point but has no real relevance.
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>>343454052
10 characters*
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>>343453964
it even says akane is moe in the game
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>>343454007
I want to comfort naked, crying sigma in the shower
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>>343453964
You forgot to mention Phi is an alien because she straight up was born from an alien machine.
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Let me fix the game:

>Kyle jumped to the past months before the game starts
>He warns Seven and Junpei about Free The Soul
>Seven investigates it and finds out it's all true
>Sees that they have files on the Kurashiki siblings
>Warns Junpei
>They destroy FtS and kill Brother
>Brother secretly uploaded a copy of his conscience to the Quantum Computer under the Mars Test site
>All the endings except the True one end with Radical-6 being released
>The Quantum Computer can see and calculate all timelines, like the morphogenetic field
>Zero is a combination of the computer, and the player, who is a fourth dimension being with the power to observe all timelines
>Everything we see is uploaded into the Quantum Computer
>"Zero" is just a hologram generated by AI Brother, who plans to trick the player into changing places with hi by making us experience endless possibilities and jumps until we're lost in time and space, and weak enough to be mindhacked
>The only reason Brother could pull off this entire game was because we wanted to see what happened in the test site, and wanted a third ZE game
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>>343453964
Carlos dolls eyes are a little fucked up, he's meant to be a one dimensional action figure, hence >>343450161

and Mira is a barbie doll that looks like adams family shit
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Reminder Carlos literally saved the world and without him VLR would not even exist.
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>>343454123
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>>343454007
where is this from
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