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The great debate.
thief 1
2
i feel like thief 2 really fatigued during the last few levels and i enjoyed all the exploration levels in gold, so im gonna go with that.
Thief 1 has much better story atmosphere and pace.
But Thief 2 has a bit better gameplay since all the missions are actually thief missions.
1 is more interesting, 2 is more consistent
>>343447446
Pretty much this.
>>343444354
Thief 2 because it had none of that paranormal spooky shit.
>>343444354
They weigh up each others flaws for a fantastic full experience
>>343447613
This, fuck that shit I'm a huge pussy. I just want thievery in my Thief.
Y'all remember tailing the 2 assassins in Thief 1?
Fun, tricky stuff
>>343447942
>robbing the guy's mansion as payback
>fucking pickpocketing him in his own chambers to teach him a lesson
this mission was the shit
Thief 2 is one of the rare examples of a sequel being better than the predecessor in all ways
1 for the plot.
2 for the thieving.
3 for the attention to detail.
>>343448163
and 4?
>>343448126
>in all ways
The ending in 2 was really bland and anti-climatic compared to the one in the first game.
>>343448245
For the shitposting
>>343448245
>and 4?
Silly anon, there are only 3 Thief games.
>it's a friday night Thief thread
>>343448492
how many games besides THI4F have /v/ been right about?
>thief 2
>guards in chainmail with swords next to motion detector cameras and mechs
They went full retard with the lore. Also I liked the missions in 1 more, getting the Horn of Quintus was better adventuring than any Tomb Raider game.
>>343448245
for the dumpster
>>343448245COCKRINGS
Both are great. Personally prefer the first, because I only got to play the second part much later.
>>343444354
Thief 2. I didn't care too much for the non-thieving missions in 1 and holy fuck the thieves guild can go fuck itself. The problems with 2 are minor in comparison.
>>343448245
4 was good for reviving the series. A shame it had to be like that but I still have hope that after the movie, Squeenix will give the series to a competent studio and it'll get the Deus Ex treatment.
A man can dream.
>>343449279
Thief doesn't translate into modern gaming as well as Deus Ex does so that's highly unlikely.
2. Not only best Thief game, also best stealth game of all time.
Thief 1, didn't like all those robots in t2.
need magic return age
fucked baron and moira
>>343449279
Did Thief ever really die though? The modding community never really died down, between TDS and Thief 4 there was T2x and TDM, and hundreds of other missions including many mini-campaigns. And the quality on these things vary but a great many of them are better than anything we're going to get from a new AAA Thief game. It wasn't much of a revival, just a subpar addition.
TDP > Gold > 2
>>343450347
>Gold
>better than 2
>thieves guild
>>>>>>>>>>>>
guys, what about the dark mod?
>>343449408
It's a very simple concept to translate to modern gaming. Shit, i have Thief 1 and 2 set up to play with a 360 controller and it works great.
They're just fucking idiots.
>>343451076
I meant the style of gameplay doesn't translate well. Deus Ex is an action/stealth with emphasis on the action. Thief is a stealth game through and through and outright discourages any combat. People don't want to be stuck in a level for hours sneaking around and avoiding enemies.
disohnored is hitman thief deusex Spiritual Successor.
however not thief.
>>343451620
Well Styx proved stealth games are still profitable. And it's getting a sequel too. Granted a Thief game would need a somewhat bigger budget but still.
>>343451620
I dunno, I think pure stealth is still a pretty popular gameplay type. Definitely not AS popular as stealth action, but still.
Granted, you probably would have to give Garrett a lot more mobility to maneuver around guards quickly and escape if you're seen, or just make the levels way easier, maybe reboot the mechanics a little like they did with Deus Ex. The older games definitely are too slow for a lot of people.
did thief 4 really have good gameplay or is this some shitposting on wikipedia? Never played fourth because /v/ told me so.
>>343453331
Would you trust your average reviewer's opinion on stealth gamepaly?
Remember, these are probably the kind of people who would dismiss Thief because it's "archaic".
>>343444354
Better question. I've never played either (despite being born in the 80s so I was old enough to play them when released just never did) so should I just buy both or one of them?
I enjoy games from this era so graphics will be of no concern just wanna know if they're both worth playing or just one of them.
>>343453640
They're both part of a bigger picture. You can't just play one and not the other. Play both.
>>343453640
They are both worth playing. Some people will try to meme you into skipping the first game but you should ignore these people, they don't know what they've missed. Just don't be surprised when zombies pop out in Thief Gold. Take the monster missions for what they are (fun Indiana Jones adventures) and you will not be disappointed. Also don't feel bad if you look up a guide for the level called Thieves' Guild.
Get TFix for Thief Gold and tafferpatcher for Thief 2, don't bother with graphical upgrade mods.
Are there any mod that fix 16 bit color and game change resolution when you read something ?
>>343449279
>Squeenix will give the series to a competent studio
>they use part of the profits from SS3 to buy Thief off Squeenix
>>343450862
The Dark Mod is fun. It's the closest thing you'll ever get to a proper sequel.
>>343449279
Deus Ex HR was the same level of horrible as Thi4f. It amazes me that anybody thinks that game was acceptable in any way.
>>343454163
>Just don't be surprised when zombies pop out in Thief Gold.
I would actually like that honestly as long as it's not a theme from the get go and is instead gradually introduced via a storyline (I saw someone mention paranormal happening which intrigued me).
They're both under $2 so I'll grab just those as I'm assuming the "Thief Collection" isn't worth bothering since I heard the newest game was shit.
>>343454370
Well granted any game made after Pong is a piece of shit that killed gaming but still, HR was good. And you are one jaded waste of skin.
>>343454581
I think the problem people have with the zombies is that one of the early missions is absolutely massive and mazelike, and it's all monsters. People go into the game expecting to be breaking into mansions the whole time and get caught off guard. Personally, it's the level that really sold me on the game. There's a lot of cool things in it.
I HAVE HEARD SOMETHING
>>343454163
Thats a good piece of art, nice
>>343444354
Thief Gold for atmosphere, plot
Thief 2 for gameplay
>>343454330
Let's see how their new Underworld game ends up before we talk about them doing another Thief game. Underworld Ascendant doesn't look all that great.
>>343455214
Anyone that had already played Ultima Underworld or any dungeon crawlers would already be used to mazes and large maps. Shows the age of the players really.
>>343455956
The new build looks pretty good (other than that horrible skeleton model) in motion. You should check it out.
>>343455956
Hey, I'm skeptical from their misadventures with Deadly Shadows/Invisible War alone
They are in pre-alpha stage right now(similarly to SS1R), but I'm not a huge fan of all the elements either. I'll definitely take a closer look though
They kept praising on twitter the fact that Stellmach is working on UA and that we should look forward to the stealth, but I'm not sure what to think yet.
>>343444354
I prefer 2 for its more consistent design.
>>343444354
Unchained Atmosphere
Unrivaled Level Design.
Two sides, same coin.
Anyone got FMs to recommend?
>>343456191
To be fair it took me over 3 hours to finish that one level because I kept going in circles so I can see why people would dislike it. I wish I could get lost in it again.
>>343456668
What kinda mission you want senpai?
>>343455956
desu it'll probably be shit but I'm somewhat happy Paul Neurath escaped mobile game hell and finally got his UU3. He'd been continually trying to convince Origin/EA to let him do it since 1993.
>>343455956
Stephen Russell's Role Revealed in Underworld Ascendant!
We announced back during the Kickstarter that Looking Glass' fan favorite voice talent Stephen Russell and Terri (System Shock's SHODAN) Brosius would take part in Underworld Ascendant, but haven't revealed either of their roles... until now.
Stephen will play the role of Cabirus, the character responsible for the establishing the fallen utopia in Ultima Underworld before his mysterious, untimely death. While you've never encountered Cabirus directly before, you've certainly seen the huge impact he had on The Stygian Abyss. In Underworld Ascendant you'll come face-to-face with him... somehow... and learn about the secret pre-history of the series, directly from its enigmatic founder.
Neat.
>>343456332
Environments and mechanics look solid right now for UA. It could be good or bad it's too early to tell.
>>343457373
but we already got UU3.
>>343457373
>What kinda mission you want senpai?
Disorientation-esque? I know Melan is the go-to guy, but I'm curious if any new good stuff appeared in the recent months?
Also, did the /vr/ thread get consumed by Doom?
>>343457601
I haven't been playing FM's lately so I don't know if I'd know anything you don't. If you've played enough to know authors by name you've probably played skacky's missions, but if not then go play them.
>>343457763
Well, that's alright.
I've went through a bit of skacky's missions, I remember Shadow Politics the most
But seriously though, what happened to the /vr/ thread? There was also this guy that tried faithfully remaking the textures and was posting updates in the thread. That shit looked gorgeous but he said he took a break to work on another project.
Anything recent?
>>343458315
I think that project's abandoned, there have been no updates on it since he posted the files for Bafford's manor.
As for FM's the only recent one I've tried is Waterfront Racket. It's nothing like Disorientation and it's nothing like Thief in general but it's pretty cool.
>>343457510
I really have to get around to finishing that game. I've gotten very far in it twice but I always get sidetracked by some shit. I got to the part whereYlsids attack Arxbut I was terribly underleveled and overwrote my earlier saves.
Best mission
>>343458315
>>343459162
Also, you should brace your anus for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKVSyGvSQR8
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146501
thief4 lore ,Stephen Russell voice old garret is dead? 200 years ago.
new garret chenge voice actor is proper.
however i need other he voice character.
SQUENI is fuck
TDP had better map design and spookier enemies, so I'm going with that one.
>>343460817
what
A Challenger Appears
>>343460356
>expect cave diving
>get ransacking an opera house
best bait and switch?
![083[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SCIO43g.jpg "083[1].jpg")
>tfw Jonathan Frakes nearly saved Looking Glass
1 because I can't stand Karras' voice and some levels towards the end of 2 were arse
>>343461452
>he doesn't like Karras
1 gold > 2 > 1
3 > 2 > 1
>>343461452
You know what? I'm happy.
>>343461259
why do 90´s gamedevs look so based?
They always look like cool nerds that know about anything and everything, the guys you would share a beer with.
>>343461259
How did Looking Glass die anyway? I thought everything sold pretty well.
>>343462005
Fuck off with that consolized trash.
>>343462145
John romero made them his bitch
>>343462145
They took creative risks which didn't pay off financially. Their games sold alright, but not enough.
>>343453331
okay that has to be bullshit because i can only remember like one review praising this game's busted ass stealth and hallway levels, and everyone else bitched about the nonexistent AI or panned its design.
>>343444354
we all know THI3F if the best
>>343462145
>>343462214
>>343462250
http://www.ttlg.com/articles/lgsclosing.asp
Romero had a part, but in the end it was a sum of situations that ended in them bankrupting
>>343453640
I played both for the first time in 2014 and loved them, I think they hold up incredibly well. Just make sure to rebind the controls to something tolerable.
>>343462145
http://gambit.mit.edu/podcasts/lgs/podcast10_neurath.mp3
0:41:40
thief4 is true suck.
but i like background lore 400 years .
.
.
i like t1gold.
They're both 9,5/10 for me, for differing reasons.
That is the only good answer.
>>343461259
>Jonathan Frakes nearly saved Looking Glass
Wait, how?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGZA-KDy87Q
Gold has the best ending though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY483Gd3lOU
So you think you've won?
>I think I got my food back.
And yet still, you are hungry.
>>343448620
>how many games besides THI4F have /v/
I think all of them. When will people learn? We're never wrong.
>>343464198
>>343464424
except when /v/ is wrong 50% of the time
>>343463412
It's nothing, there was just a dev who looked like Frakes.
>>343465058
you are wrong
you must be a redditor
>played Thief so much I got bored of it
>everything else feels like shit compared to Thief
HELP
>>343467073
Dude Sex. System Shock.?
>>343444354
Am I the only one who doesn't get the thief meme? Atmosphere is incredible (and mostly thanks to sound direction) and level design but everything else is absolute fucking shit garbage. Besides level design the second most important thing in stealth games is AI and this game has one of the shittiest enemy AI ever.
How can you seriously play outdated games like this?
>>343467579
>why does this 18 year old game have bad AI
>>343467579
>Besides level design the second most important thing in stealth games is AI and this game has one of the shittiest enemy AI ever.
Anon, the best classics in the genre have deliberately underpowered AI so that you can actually stealth by them.
Hitman Blood Money's AI is abysmal but people still love it.
>>343467727
Funny since the AI was actually pretty great for it's time.
