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the Generations demo is now out for everyone in NA.

How are you guys liking it so far?
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It's lit desu senpai
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Great Sword Aerial Style is SHIT.
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Aerial SA is fun as fuck.
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It's good desu
Really feel glad I didn't spend 5 bucks on the demo
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Adept Bow makes me hyped for the return of spread bows
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>>343427149
I think Aerial GS is pretty fun.

Now Adept GS, that's some shit on a biscuit.
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>mfw new particle motion after effects
So pretty
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>meanwhile playing MHX and doing DLC

No excuse. Import, now.
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Is it just me, or is the malfestio much harder than the nargacuga?
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Nargacuga
Room ID: 42-3440-8277-5106
Room pass: 7243
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>>343430290
I found it to be way harder too.
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>>343430541
One spot left
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>>343430290
Could just be already being experienced with Nargacuga but Malfestios are attacks are pretty annoying.
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>>343427149
It's effective and cool but it's boring. Remember you actually can charge, just only in the air.

I want to try it with focus, evade extender and earplugs
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>>343430180
>No excuse. Import, now.
There's a thing called "Can't speak Japanese" that's a problem.
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Is there like a rule of thumb for what style changes what? They all seem to change the moveset a bit regardless of weapon.

Also holy fuck Shoryugeki is the coolest move when you nail it
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>>343426876

I like it. Pretty fun as fuck playing HBG with aerial, and guild GS is fun as shit (and good).

All around, I love it, but I can't play more than a match or two without thinking it's a waste of time. I want the rewards and armor as much as the hunt.

Also, I'm going to make some of the best mixed sets ever, and if any of you are the "I-only-like-full-sets" type, kill yourself immediately. Seriously, we don't need your cerebral palsy on MHG
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>>343430180
The game is coming out soon. I can wait.
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>tfw no mhgenerations on vita
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>>343430290
The trick to owlman is to delay your wakeup whenever you get knocked down, so he doesn't combo you to death with the dives.
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>>343431476
are people actually elitist over just using the sets the game spoonfeeds you? I've only ever heard people saying clownsuiting is the best because it is.
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>>343430180

Literally "Retardation: The Post".
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deffo gonna play aerial GS in the full version
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>>343430180
English version of this game is getting its own dlc costumes such as Okami, Ghosts and Goblins, Strider, and possibly more. Ace Attorney filename was found somewhere in the demo's files.
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>>343431584

>are people actually elitist over just using the sets the game spoonfeeds you

Sadly, I REALLY fucking wish I was kidding buddy, but there are a lot of fucking people who think you should only go entirely in one full set that's completed.

Mind you, they aren't the majority, but they aren't a small minority either.

My favorite part of this game is theorycrafting broken-ass sets in MH4U, and adjusting the colors to make them less retarded later (assuming they don't mix well).

Some people are willing to exchange customization and OP sets -- simply to keep all of the same set to "not look stupid".

I can't understand it, but there are a lot of them out there anon.
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>Adept Longsword
I'm fucking loving this shit, the spirit attack is great and does solid damage, using it on Narga I can stay in red the whole time.

Finally Tripsword is good again, I'm truly back.
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>>343431543

Like clockwork. Thanks anon.
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>>343431901
I've never seen this happen. Since you're a gunner, are you sure it's not just people getting mad about hame sets?
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>>343431901
>unable to connect to the server. Please try again later.

Has it been like this for anyone else post-demo release? I saw someone post a room up there and i haven't been able to get on.
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Wait so Lagi and Ludroth are back but without underwater mechanics?
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>try to fight owl with my bro with CB
>managed to time out

I don't know if it was due to the unfamiliarity of the fight or what. Also how do you get red shields now? Do I just have to store more phials?
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>Aerial Light Bowgun

HOLY FUCK SO MUCH FUN
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>>343432064

>Since you're a gunner, are you sure it's not just people getting mad about hame sets?

I don't gun very much. And no, not Hame sets.

There are people who legitimately only like full sets mainly on Reddit, but I've had a couple in my rooms ask me (in G-Crown) why I use mixed sets.

In FUCKING G-crown.
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>>343432231
Yes, now you slay them as they ineptly try and attack you with their land based moveset.

>>343432315
You better NOT use aerial pellet HBG in the full game
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>>343432312
Go into axe mode, then press X+A. once you have a red shield you won't be forced to use axe mode to keep the shield in red mode for guard points.
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>>343432312
Red shield is the same, cancel a AED. Depending on your style you might not be able to do it from sword mode.
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>>343432417

You got a link to the other ammo that is new to the HBG and LBG? I saw some new stuff, but I didn't use it.
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>>343432417
>Yes, now you slay them as they ineptly try and attack you with their land based moveset.
Did they really add nothing to their movesets? They were piss easy on land.
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>>343432658
Lagi is basically ivory lagi on land now. Not sure about royal ludroth getting new moves.
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>Adept Dual Blades
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>>343432456
>>343432495
Thanks for the tip. I always went for AED from sword mode back in 4U so I was just a bit confused.
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Hmm its a bit too "cucky" if you get me
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>>343432525
I think it's "In-built" ammunition that is inherent to every bowgun.

It replenishes between hunts and you can't buy it. It seems to generally be a combo between two existing ammunition types.

Some examples are: Fire piercing shots, Water piercing shots, Stone shot etc.

None of this fucking matters for HBG because retards just use Aerial pellet faggotry in Japan.
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>>343432793
Yeah, you can only do that with Guild or Adept, and even then Guild only gives you yellow shield while Adept requires you to block a hit first.
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>>343432658

Not who you were responding to, but thats fucking retarded. Anyone have that video to the Lagi perma-headlocking in MHX?

It made the game look like a fucking joke for that monster.
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How do I dual swords? Do I just demon mode whenever possible and mash attack?
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>>343432396
I actually find more of these retards on /v/ monhun threads. Not leddit, not /mhg/, but these general casual /v/ monhun threads. It is basically the autistic casual hunters who don't know shit. They need to neck themselves asap
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>>343432989
Go into demon mode, spin until your meter is filled, then spin some more.

occasionally use demon dance
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>>343432868

>Some examples are: Fire piercing shots, Water piercing shots, Stone shot etc.

Ok, that's pretty cool. I like that.

>None of this fucking matters for HBG because retards just use Aerial pellet faggotry in Japan.

Fuck the Japanese. I never use pellet anyway. Always prefered Normal 2/3 and Pierce 2/3 for damage and cooperation.
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>Want to pick up a 3rd weapon
>Too stupid to find something else I like

Aerial SA is my main and Adept Bow my secondary. Help a scrublord out anons?
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>>343432989

Spin like a top. Get your red bar filled then deactivate demon mode and spam A+X xax combo as long as you can
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>>343433013

Yeah, you're right, sadly they are here too.

>They need to neck themselves asap

Amen.
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>>343432989
yeah? and don't get hit
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>>343433013
Get your mixed set shilling out of here. I'll play the game how I like.
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>>343432989
Pick Aerial.

1.Activate demon mode
2.Jump off monster, attack downwards
3.Repeat

u did it champ
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>>343433317
blacklisted
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All I wanted was a Wii U port. Why is that so difficult?
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>Swarm
>attacks allies and enemies
I haven't played online but is this a tripper to surpass longsword?
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>>343431584
Just for you I'm posting my favorite mixed sets from MH4U
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>>343433696
>is this a tripper to surpass longsword?

No, that's Striker Lance and Aerial HBG. Longsword is actually losing some of it's trip ability in its best style.
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>>343433860
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>>343433948

This set has Cham head up top but the back is the more interesting angle
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50 hours on it, with jap version and english patch actually.

Just hack your 3ds guys and you will get more than a demo.
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>>343433360
Whatever retard.
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>>343434193
don't speak for me, faggot
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Anybody using SnS in Generations?
Are the modes enjoyable? Any of them suck balls?
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>>343431813
>okami dlc
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>>343433696
Switchaxe is new trip

What the fuck is up with everybody in the demo having no sense of positioning and swinging like idiots?
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>Adept Swaxe
>free Axe finisher on a dodge

Ooh baby.
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>>343434453
Striker SnS is fun as fuck.

Shoryukens, Roundhouses all fuckin day.
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How good is the insect glaive in this game?
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>>343434497
The Switch Axe hunter art is a bit wild, and there's no way to stop it if when you realize you're about to launch your entire team halfway across the zone
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>>343434453
I'll be using SnS but mostly because of the blade oils. Striker seems good for those hunter arts.
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>>343434453
SnS is arguably one of the best weapons to use thanks to the introductions of coatings which only the SnS can use. Stick to guild or striker if you want that extra hunter art. Adept is ok, I don't see much use for aerial.
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>>343434497
>Switchaxe
>trip
How? it has two attacks, an upswing, then a downswing.

The demo is NOT representative of in-game SA. In-game SA has a HA combo that lets you stay in sword mode permanently, where you literally mash X to get some of the fastest times of any weapons.
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>>343434710
>>/reddit/
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Is aerial superior to any other style for any weapon for any encounter ever?
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>>343435218
Aerial DB is good, Aerial HBG is cancer, but only when used with a specific set-up.

I hear Aerial IG is how the weapon is really meant to be played, as the other styles are lackluster.
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>>343435218
air ham is pretty good online since it mitigates the tripping issues to an extent
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>>343435353
>>343435364
Got any videos to demonstrate this? I dont play those much.
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>>343432045
I honestly fucking hate that they changed it back. I really do. All they had to do was buff white and yellow to 10 and 20 percent respectively and people wouldn't feel so bad about doing shit damage.

On one hand, people were always saying "yeah but having to do a full spirit combo three times every two minutes is a pain in the ass", but on the other hand in literally every other iteration of the aura you're ALWAYS spirit comboing ALL THE TIME because it lasts only one fucking minute, meanwhile in 4U you got two minutes of freedom from the feeling of absolutely having to hit that finisher or else you'd lose your damage. You could plan around getting your levels back by using traps or status.

I'm really peeved.
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Hammers are fun as hell yet again.

I'm happy with the demo and cats are fun to play as.
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>>343435218
Hammer and SA are pretty good since they can hit multiple times in one jump.
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>>343434657
Completely gutted
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WHERE ARE ALL YOU SKILLED KNOWLEDGEABLE FUCKS WHEN I'M TRYING TO PLAY ONLINE HUH
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>>343432932
You mean the one with the lance charge in striker that does 70 motion value?

I kind of miss that Ivory Lagi was one of the few monsters where the head wasn't the biggest, most obvious weak point, which really changed up which weapons were the most effective against it.
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>>343435468
Fuck off faggot, there was literally no reason the LS had to be nerfed and torn apart the way it was in 4U, it was absolute shit. No other "Upkeep" weapon loses the resource it manages completely, and forces you to spend multiple minutes getting it back up.

DBs, IG, SA can all get their resource back up in seconds, but LS loses it COMPLETELY with absolutely no way to stop the countdown, and once it's gone it takes multiple triple combos to get back up, all the while doing totally shit damage? Please kill yourself for ever defending 4U LS, I actually hate you.
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I hope they make a specific French server just so they can't play with any else in the world. I'm sick of frogs fucking up all of my hunts.
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>>343432396
I usually only use full sets because it triggers my autism if I don't, I don't care if others do. And I'm gonna start clown suiting in Generations
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>>343434710
>playing a cooperative game where each person's contribution is extremely important
>purposefully gimp yourself for aesthetics
>bitch out when people don't want to play with you got gimping yourself
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>>343435416
The beauty of Japanese ingenuity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS5z0_wqBv0
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>>343435849
If you're using anything other than a LBG or HBG you're gimping your team.
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>>343435849
>Random bitches at me for not using the latest hip mix set
>They proceed to triple cart using it

Oh nooooo I'm gimping the team.
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>they nerfed CBlade's guard points
DROPPED

Parrying shit was the reason I loved it so much
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>>343436050
This. Actual skill matters more than min/maxing your gear/skills
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>>343436087
Different styles have different guard points now. Try striker or adept.
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>>343435941
Fucking japs.
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I've found myself pretty good with striker SnS and striker lance, but I'm having a bit of trouble gitting gud with striker swaxe. It's fun as fuck tho.
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>lower FOV
>bigger HUD


I CANT SEE SHIIEIEIEIEIEIIEIIEIIT
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>>343436229
But it's when you combine skill with autistic min maxing that you see true power.
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I've played every single MH iteration since the demo that was included with DMC3. This is some of the most fun I've had with the series yet. Both Adept and Aerial are really exciting to use. I wouldn't mind if they're going back to a more classic gameplay in the next installment, but for now I'm really enjoying this spin-off.
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>>343436376
You can turn the HUD off
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Daily reminder that if you don't pick cat, you'll playing the game wrong.
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>>343436381
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE!!!!!!
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>>343430180

>can't speak Japanese
>can't play with Western players
>have to play on Japanese servers with 3DS shitty ass connection

no thanks
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>>343435814
Because a weapon where you just activate infinite spirit and spam R into infinity forever is so much more satisfying a playstyle, right?

You were always maintaining your aura in 3U. At all times. You dropped from 20% to fucking 10% if you went out of yellow, and the resultant playstyle was ALWAYS STAYING IN RED. ALWAYS, WHICH MEANT ALWAYS HAVING TO SPIRIT COMBO, WHICH MEANT ALWAYS TRIPPING TEAMMATES ONLINE UNLESS YOU WERE A TIPPITY-TOP PRO OF PROS.

>LS
>Nerfed and torn apart the way it was in 4U
Are you legitimately retarded? It got two new moves that went a long way to making up for that playstyle change, and furthermore the bonus to Red (1.3x compared to 1.2x in previous entries) meant it finally did more damage-per-strike than it did in FU, for as long as it was in red. It could finally go back into spirit combo from a fade slash, skipping two stages of the combo in the process and making it easier than ever to raise your aura, and the roll into upslash opened up a lot of new openings that didn't exist before.

>No other upkeep weapon loses the resource it manages completely
Aura isn't your resource. Spirit is. Aura is a bonus for playing well. Spirit is what manages what moves you can do.

The 3U style of aura is horribly limiting on your playstyle. You don't have any significant periods of time where you can focus on doing the right move for the situation at hand, you HAVE to keep your red up or else you're fucked as you'll drop 10%. Yeah it only takes one full combo to get back up, but that's a full combo you need to do every single minute.

Like I said, all they had to do was buff white and yellow and it'd be perfect. Hell, make yellow drop down to white so you have the option of waiting until the monster's exhausted or something before taking Red. Make a full spirit combo add five seconds to Red's timer.

But in terms of playstyle, 4U's been the best LS has ever been short of FU.
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>>343434710

You may literally be mentally retarded, in some fashion or another (pun intended, retard).
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>>343436718
I don't like how hard it is to heal as a cat. I understand they have more health and the acorns, but they still feel more frail than a hunter in the long run.
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>genuinely like CB's gameplay
>get told it's a weapon for scrubs

So should I use it? Is it bad?
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>>343435825
BOnjour mon ami

I will mount the fuck off your hunts, faggot.
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Nargacuga
Room ID: 46-7636-0412-6268
Pass: 4659
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Who is the KO/Exhaust king in Generations, Hammer, HH, or SnS(Exhaust coating gg)?
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>>343436931
I'm french and use IG, they can suck my dick.
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>SA's hunter art Energy Charge fully recharges the guage, and gives you 30 affinity
>It also charges quickly and allows you to stay in Demon Riot(20% more damage) mode permanently

WHAT THE FUCK

I know SA was not that great in 4U but Jesus Christ were they even thinking about this shit?
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Maybe I'll try a new weapon. New GS styles didn't do much for me although I liked those Hunter Arts. I gotta unleash a Brimstone Slash on something one day.
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>>343436262
Alright I just tried guard points using every style

Guard points no longer cancel the morphing animation and that reduces it mobility a lot because you're forced into axe mode every time you use it.

I think they could have made it less powerful without the need to nerf its most attractive feature.
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>Try out Bow in a 4 player Maccao hunt
>Using poison coating for free damage
>Get it to eat tinged meat for free damage
>setup traps after mounts for even more free damage

I had no idea supporting was this much fun.
>Bow
>Support
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>>343436983
2 spots left
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>>343437045
A good hammer player is still KO king, but SnS is obnoxiously close to taking the title and is much, much easier to KO with than hammer for a new player, and can also cut tails.
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>>343436931
It was a weapon for scrubs in 4U given how broken it was. It got nerfed so its not that much better than other weapons.
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>>343436050

Or, you know, use a mixed set and actually be good to combine the power of both worlds. Or be a cock smoker like >>343436229 who probably sucks ass anyway, and doesn't know how to make a good set just like your retarded ass.
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>>343437312
I didn't mean the guard points behaved differently, I meant that different attacks get them. Striker gets a guard point on X+A and Adept gets it on A. You don't have to use the axe morph anymore.
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>>343437254

Guild GS was super fucking satisfying to me. My opinion of course.
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>>343437315
The most fun I had with 4U was running a trap master/capture guru set with a hammer

I could give everyone like two solid minutes of free hits and capture the fuckers before they even change area for the first time.

I also had capture expert and always rolled in materials after each hunt.
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>>343437404
I get by just fine with the sets I make on my own.
Only real thing I dislike is when people tell you to use the newest e-celeb bullshit.

Someone playing how they want to play is going to be far better than someone playing to how everyone says they should play in my book, regardless of armor composition.

Also I have absolutely 0 speedhunting desire so the loss of a minute is no real big for me.
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>>343436928

Cats are incredibly sturdy if there's a team of four of them. For herb horns playing all at once heals max health in no time. If everyone gives a toot of the herb horn every so often, the total health you'll end up healing is much greater than what the monster will be able to do to you, barring you aren't complete ass.

Other than that, cats are supposed to simply not get hit. You have extreme mobility with your dodges, and a smaller hitbox to boot. You can't play the cat like you do a hunter, for the simple fact that attacks that used to be inescapable are now more than evadable now that your hitbox is half as big.
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>>343437784

Guild is just how it always played, but with Monster Arts. I dunno, maybe I expected more from the new stuff. Aerial was okay but kinda weird. Striker is just way too basic for me.
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>>343437404
You must be fun to play video games with!
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Shit quality image of shit clownsuit coming through. Careful I don't shit up your rooms!
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>>343426876
bored of the demo. game needs to come out already.
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>>343437948

Aerial really shines with bowguns. It completely changes how you play them.
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>>343438035
What dbs are those? I fucking loved the Gore tree in mh4u
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>>343437594
Jesus this is great. Thanks senpai
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>>343437404
This, I always assume that the guy is not good if he has a full set. I still probably won't kick him if he's using Hammer or HH and not a french/active chat user.
>>343437985
Not him, but I play with my bros just fine. Probably because they are good.
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>>343437404
Again.
>play the game my way or else >:(((((
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>>343437185
SA was fine in 4U man. All of the weapons were fine, relatively speaking.

But yeah, I really hate how swordmode-centric Gen is. This might be the first entry that I skip out on switch axe entirely.

When will they give Axe Mode the ability to consume a quarter of its phial to boost individual attacks to an insane degree?
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>>343438220
Inferno/Paradis, Chaotic Gore.
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>>343437315
I've been appreciating the double backhop into level 3 charge and the freedom to use power shots OR arc shots in Guild.

Adept feels too scrubby to me. Too easy. It also doesn't feel like a proper Bow playstyle to me, taking attacks to the face to not have to bother with moving around.
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>>343430180
>not importing then buying a Western copy to play as well
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>tfw played so much Bayonetta that adept feels natural
This is going to be fun
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>still no MonHun on something other than 3DS
Is there ANY hope of Generations getting an NX or PS4 port?
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>>343439226
This is my problem with Adept.

It doesn't feel like Monster Hunter. It feels like Bayonetta.
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So, in the full game will it be possible to change the touch-screen layout? I use the D-pad on the touch screen because I'm a piece of shit and not having that available in the demo is throwing my game off
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>>343439664
Of course. They're not going to have had three 3DS entries with customizable bottom screens and suddenly take that away on the 4th.
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How are hunting horns this time around?
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>>343436983
The Wyvern Fire last minute finish
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>>343439554
MHX is literally just to fill time until 5 which has a chance to be on NX
Sorry to say that MH isn't going back to Sony
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>>343439887
Arts are a little lacklustre, but guild's better than it was before, given that actually hitting an attack will upgrade a note to an enhanced notes, and any song consisting entirely of enhanced notes will encore the previous song played as well.
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>>343439887
The same as always, not great solo, fine in a group.
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Are there any differences between playing on a regular 3DS and a New 3DS like there were with 4U?
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>>343437379

Putting the "I suck at this weapon so it's for scrubs" buttmaditude aside, how did it get nerfed?
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>>343440120
>Arts are a little lacklustre

They're complete garbage. One art is basically a sonic bomb that launches your teammates, and the other is only useful if you're the kind of faggot who stands on the other side of the zone spamming songs.
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>>343440171
fps cap is 30 in X, so N3DS doesn't get a big boost, but it's more stable than a regular 3DS

also no better textures like 4U
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>>343440171
Not anymore I think, Generations is locked 30 fps isn't it?
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>>343439995
That last hit anon, you did good son
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>>343436931

If you like it then just use it and ignore the whining bads because no other weapon is quite the same.
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>>343430290
It's easier once you adjust for the confuse status. If you get it by accident it's disorienting definitely but the movement controls are just reversed from what I can tell. Its best openings are attacks that can cause that status, especially the big aoe confuse. If you run at the cloud and let off the slide pad you can let your forward momentum carry you into it from the edge and you can immediately adapt to the reversed control because you went into it on purpose. It's a little hard to deal with now but it'll be second nature once we've dealt with it awhile in the full game and confuse won't be anything to worry about.
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Why would I play a demo of a game that I finished over a year ago?
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I don't know if I'm going to get it. There's a couple of changes that are REALLY fucking annoying.

>press L to target the monster
>the red crosshair flashes up on the screen
>but they put it on the 'outer' layer of 3D
>it's incredibly distracting and distracts your view for a split second

>UI elements are way bigger than they need to be
>FOV has been shrunk to keep performance stable with the increased particles
>massive text box pops up in the middle of the screen when a buff runs out
>makes it incredibly hard to see anything thats happening
>palicoes are somehow 50x more annoying with bells
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>>343440508
you don't. goodbye.
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>>343436931
>Weapon for scrubs
On the contrary nowadays, CB is now a weapon that you have to be extremely proficient with to get even a slightly good time.
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>>343440316
>one art is basically a sonic bomb that launches your teammates
Pretty sure it's a "sonic explosion" that does damage.

The other one is useful if a monster moves out of your way and would otherwise result in the last toot being unenhanced, but yeah, lacklustre.

The third one's okay for solo though. Plays all available songs, but only for you. End result being that you spend more time doing optimum combos instead of constantly inputting for attack up to keep it up.

Its styles are pretty ass though.
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I've played tri and 3rd HD and I still don't know how the fuck you're supposed to use gunlances. The little shotgun shells it shoots don't seem to hit anything. Please help a retard out.
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>>343440316
>One art is basically a sonic bomb that launches your teammates
>They took Frontier's select button HH sonic and somehow made it worse

HOW.
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>>343440607
>using the shit tier 3D in the first place
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>>343440316
>>343440120
Though you can still just play with the standard moveset, right?
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>>343440672
there's different types and they generally only hit right in front of you, they don't really shoot anything out
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>>343440154
they've always been fine solo. just you may as well be playing hammer if you're solo, but sometimes you want them buffs
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>>343440915
>they've always been fine solo
Delusional. HH is almost as bad as GL.
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>>343440831
Yes. Guild is the standard moveset, plus the enhanced note improvement and two available hunter arts.
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>>343440749

Game looks like shit with the 3D off. I played nearly 1k hours of 4U with the 3d on.
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If you didn't play FU you are literally a babby. Go play it right now.
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>>343440991
you sound bad

though GL was nerfed this game
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>>343440849
>they don't really shoot anything out
oh. Well what do you use them for?
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>>343441105
making pretty explosions and stabbing things
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>>343441080
>you sound bad
The only bad thing here is HH's times on literally every monster.

Lagging behind other weapons by multiple minutes isn't "Fine" It's a shit weapon with tons of shitty players who use it and feel like they're helping by spamming songs when they really aren't.
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>>343441169
Right, shit. I mean what do you use the shells for? Why are they there?
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>>343441028

Enjoy your denial then, the 3D is just a blurry mess of shit even in the "correct" position and doesn't look like remotely decent 3D effects ever.
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Started with 4U, put in like 1k hours
What the fuck is with Nargacuga running so much? Did he do this shit in the old games? He changes zones like every 2 minutes
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>>343441301
If HH uses attack up and gets at least one KO that's good enough for me.
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>>343441358

Funny, I think the game looks like a blurry mess in 2d. Nothing has any definition and it looks like shit.
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>>343441307
they do damage, they just don't shoot stuff far like a bowgun, the damage is the explosion hitbox when you use shells

you alternate stabbing and shelling to deal damage and make explosions
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>>343441301
I wasnt talking about cleartimes. I was just talking about viability solo.

Also its my favorite style of combat in general, just because i enjoy backswings
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>>343440508
>pay attention to me!
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>>343441663
Oh ok cool. I didn't know if the shells were doing anything since there wasn't really any other visual feedback besides a small explosion. Thanks for being patient with me anon.
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>>343441839
make sure to do wyvernfire when you can as well, that's a big damage dealer for GL

if you're playing X/Gen, GL has a heat mechanic that increases your damage when you use shells but resets if you get it too high. basically you want to shell till you get max and then wyvernfire to lock it in and then do damage like normal
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>>343441028
The 3d fucks my shit up man, feels like my eyes are getting cancer.
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>>343441307

You get up in a monster's face (or ram the lance in their ass) and unload your shit and they take a bunch of damage. There isn't a projectile (although Wyvern Fire has a pretty big hitbox) so it's still a melee weapon, and shells are generally used along with pokes in various combos and such.

It's not always obvious when the explosion actually hits if the explosion is just barely reaching the monster, but if you look for a brief fire effect on the monster you can see when it does indeed hit them.
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>>343441105
RESETTING YOUR COMBO

Also piercing damage I guess. Comes in handy sometimes. Maybe getting that small bit of extra range at the end of a combo. The typically high sharpness loss rate makes it risky to build an entire playstyle around shelling most of the time. Um... well because it does a small portion of fire damage no matter the lance element, it was kind of cool to use Gunlance to melt Agnaktor's armor while still using his weakness.
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If you have Kik feel free to join. It's mostly to discuss strategy and play together with fellow anons.
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>>343441501

It does look like a blurry mess because 3DS resolution is shit, but the shit tier 3D makes it look even worse.
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>>343442474
>>343442415
>>343442119
Neat. thanks for the info guys. I tried to use a gunlance on 3rd HD but all the text describing it was in moon. I'll give it another go
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Monster Hunter Generations has convinced me that Mainline can do literally anything and the fans will gobble it up. Here's my prediction: Monster Hunter mainline is going to be just as fucking stupid as Frontier within half a decade and nobody will bat a goddamned eye. Fucking idiots.
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>>343442535
I thought kik was only used for fucking strangers
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>>343442415
Aerial gunlance paired up with normal shot spam, artillery, blunt maybe, and the hunter art that locks your heat gauge-- literally jump up and down on the monster blasting it to bits.

When I need a break from variant hunting I'll go online with this build for shits and giggles.
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>>343442681
Hey man where'd you get your red pill from? I've been looking for some myself
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>Generations
>Already played the shit out of MHX

Yeah bro amazing NEW game wow
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>>343442681
>Monster Hunter mainline is going to be just as fucking stupid as Frontier within half a decade and nobody will bat a goddamned eye. Fucking idiots.

You're completely delusional if you think Mainline MH will ever become like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOY6weQFRk8

Without people realizing it as it happens.
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>>343442535
>image.jpg
>normieshit
Fuck off.
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>>343442981
These styles and flashy monster variants are the first step towards that.
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>>343442681
agreed, both monhan and the souls games are becoming too fast and flashy

slow-paced action games are dying out
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>>343442981
If Generations sells well? It absolutely will become that. If you want to be a fucking stupid nitpick and say it won't have a Kamikaze Gypceros specifically then you'll have won the war of the strawmans, but setting that aside it's very plain to see that the new generation of Monster Hunter fans clearly will accept anything, and don't have even the slightest clue what makes Monster Hunter good and different from other action games.
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>>343443097
>styles

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

I CAN JUMP?
I CAN DODGE GOOD?
THIS IS JUST LIKE DOING SICK AIR COMBOS FOR FIVE SECONDS STRAIGHT ON A MONSTER THAT SHITS AOES NONSTOP WHILE THE ENTIRE ARENA IS COVERED IN A THICK COATING OF GRAPHIC DIARRHEA

I'M NOT AN OVER-EXAGGERATING RETARD WHATSOEVER LMAO
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LV9 Zinogre Variant speedkill times:
>1) LA (Striker) : 5'25'14
>2) DB (Striker) : 6'21'16
>3) SA (Striker) : 6'34'20
>4) IG (Guild) : 7'31'08
>5) GS (Striker) : 7'38'30
>6) HA (Guild) : 7'48'63
>7) LS (Striker) : 7'51'41
>8) CAT (Fighter) : 8'07'01
>9) SS (Striker) : 8'14'50
>10) CB (Striker) : 8'43'18
>11) GL (Adept) : 9'47'66
>12) HH (Guild) : 9'57'46
>13) LBG (Adept) : 13'33'18
>14) HBG (Adept) : 14'01'90
>15) BOW (Adept) : 14'29'98

LV10 One-Eyed Garuga times:
>1) GS (Striker) : 05`08`03
>2) SA (Guild) : 05`19`30
>3) HBG (Adept) : 06`03`91
>4) SS (Striker) : 06`08`43
>5) IG (Guild) : 06`13`53
>6) HA (Guild) : 06`23`41
>7) LS (Striker) : 06`39`13
>8) HH (Guild) : 06`55`78
>9) CAT (Fighter) : 07`29`75
>10) LA (Adept) : 07`36`50
>11) CB (Striker) : 07`43`60
>12) DB (Adept) : 07`52`40
>13) LBG (Striker) : 08`42`60
>14) BOW (Adept) : 09`03`38
>15) GL (Adept) : 09`45`26
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>>343442535
What the fuck is kik

Every time I think I'm caught up with the new social bullshit everyone hops somewhere else
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>>343443097
You mean like Golden Rajang?
And Savage Jho?

Which you gobbled up?

Hilarious.
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>>343443545
LV10 Glavenus Variant times:
>1) LA (Striker) : 04`44`05
>2) HBG (Adept) : 04`54`20
>3) GS (Guild) : 05`45`25
>4) DB (Adept) : 05`52`30
>5) LS (Adept) : 05`54`93
>6) SA (Striker) : 05`59`40
>7) CB (Striker) : 06`35`58
>8) CAT (Fighter) : 06`49`41
>9) BOW (Adept) : 06`58`70
>10) HA (Adept) : 07`23`71
>11) GL (Adept) : 07`40`06
>12) LBG (Adept) : 07`43`41
>13) SS (Striker) : 07`51`58
>14) IG (Adept [??!?]) : 07`52`20
>15) HH (Guild) : 08`17`30
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Daily reminder that MH4U is still the best selling game in the series.
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>>343442981
This is fucking amazing. I need it
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>>343443280
How would you innovate the MH series away from the trend of 'monsters with more health, players with more skills'? Do you think capcom should just improve graphics and increase the number of monsters without changing the formula?
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>>343442730
I just use it to play with my cock transformation fetish.
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>>343443460
If you went back in time and showed MH1 players MHX they would be losing their minds at how stupid and cuhrazy it looks im comparison.
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>>343443646
>LS able to get good times again.
Finally, I can forget about the shitfest that was 4U
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>>343443280
>nd don't have even the slightest clue what makes Monster Hunter good and different from other action games.
So it died when dual blades were introduced.
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>>343443698
They've been doing it just fine so far. Add a new weapon, improve on the mechanics and movesets of previously existing weaons, add new mechanics to hunts (monster stamina, status resistance, elemental blights), add new monster types with new movesets and act differently to what we're used to (with the added bonus of improving upon the basic concepts behind older monsters that don't hold up as well over time).
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>>343444087
>improve on the mechanics and movesets of previously existing weaons

This is literally the style system. You're commending the thing you're shitting on you fucking RETARD.
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>>343443698
>How would you innovate the MH series
Why do you people always try to distract from the main point. Why do I have to have a better plan than the Monster Hunter developers in order to criticize the direction it's taking? Am I not allowed to complain to the Dentist if he starts pulling out all my teeth just because I can't do a better job? Christ sakes. I've gone down this route before and it always ends the same way, I suggest something and instead of talking about the subject, Mainline going to shit, you just start nitpicking the things I suggest instead which accomplishes exactly nothing.

Here's an idea, if the developers are obligated to run Monster Hunter off a cliff for some insane reason because they have a lot of sequels, then maybe they should just make one game with the strong core mechanics Monster Hunter is built on and release new Monsters and modes as DLC instead of making you buy a new shitty version each year? Lord knows they're not trying to improve the graphics or anything so why make a new game for it? I think you'll find the answer is quite obvious why they're doing it the way they are now.
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>>343443698
One thing I would like to see are some form of random differentiation between monster movesets between different hunts. Things like some Rathaloses will always tail whip left, some will always do it right, maybe some will always whip left then right. Things like that to force players to re-adapt each time the re-hunt the same monster.
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The female mammoth armor is fucking CUTE!
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>>343443980
LS got decent times in 4U for those who knew how to use it. It might have been knocked down a peg or two but it was still a decent weapon.

Only reason LS is getting good times here is because of its arts which are pretty fucking ridiculous, and the improvements to the moveset that were designed to keep up with the changes to the aura system in 4U making it stupid dumb to maintain red.

I mean for fuck's sake there's an art that lets you basically use a finisher any time, anywhere with like 8 hits total, an art that gives you infinite spirit (literally making it Tri all over again), and it can counter for, what, something like 218 motion value?
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>>343444224
This might surprise you, but the person who seems to hold the exact opposite beliefs he just held a moment ago is actually a different person. Shocking, I know.
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>>343444234
>Mainline going to shit

In your opinion. Most people likely won't agree with you, especially the Japanese.

You faggots need to realize you are not the main fucking audience of MH.

The developers DON'T CARE about what the west thinks about the direction MH takes.
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>>343444224
The Style system is not that. The Style system REMOVES moves in exchange for GIMMICKS. On the rare occasions that it changes nearly nothing, that style ends up breaking the balance and becoming fucking stupid.
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>>343444453
>In your opinion.
Jesus fucking christ. Of course it's my opinion you fucking dipshit. The entire point I'm making here is that the fans have driven Monster Hunter in this direction because they accept anything mainline does.
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>>343444039
>get dick pick
>change name to "<person>'s cock"
It's pretty fun man.
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What do those new colors on the bowgun ammo do?
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>>343444573
What direction?
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>>343444573
>The entire point I'm making here is that the fans have driven Monster Hunter in this direction because they accept anything mainline does

Exactly, the point is that no one fucking cares about what some worthless autist on fucking 4chan thinks about MH's direction when you aren't even in the main audience you fucking idiot.

The Japanese decide MH's direction, if you don't like it, stop playing any time.
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>>343444705
Are you being annoying on purpose?
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>>343444694
Blue is "in-built" ammo. It comes with the bowgun and will replenish between hunts. As far as I know, they're mostly uncraftable.

They come in such lovely flavours as "pierce fire shot".
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>>343444846
No. In case you didn't realize i'm not the anon that was talking to you but a new one.

What direction?
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>>343444842
Thank you for essentially repeating the same thing again but with more words. Anything else you'd like to scream about ineffectually? What point are you trying to drive home here? That I shouldn't communicate my opinions about the direction the game is taking unless it will be forwarded directly to the developers? Sorry I thought I was on 4chan where it's OK to complain about video games instead of worship it you stupid piece of shit.
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from comming from a cpp with mh4u to the new 3ds is it hard getting used to the c stick?
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>>343445164
C-stick takes a little getting used to, but you will get used to the amount of force you need pretty quickly.
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>>343445164
It's a little finicky, but once you figure out to press in on the edge as you try to nudge or pull it in a direction, you're gold.

The only thing I've got any issue with is the lack of bulk and grip from no longer having my CPP.
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who /waiting for V/ here?
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>>343445104
What hes saying is that you're contrarian or an outlier. You're spouting your opinions on what MH 'should be' as fact while disregarding how the majority of players including veterans are enjoying the changes and the direction the series is taking. This isn't about people being indifferent its about them actually liking the changes and you trying to rationalize how that could possibly be.
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>>343445816
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
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>>343445990
I'm not seeing why that is a fallacy. Majority rule is a major basis of first world and western civilization in particular. Plus that is normally applied to something that can be scientifically proven false as opposed to a subject of opinion. When it comes to subjects of opinion the majority should rule.
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>>343443646
>SA that high.
Oh baby.
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>>343446215
You are arguing in the most annoying and stupid way possible about subjective topics. Yes, of course it is my opinion and not everyone's that Monster Hunter is taking a bad direction, yes, of course my opinions are not going to change the direction the game is taking in favor of the majority standpoint. You are wasting everyone's time by pointing that out and only being annoying for the sake of being annoying. Shut the fuck up already. Stop trying to silence me just because I'm not one of the horde.
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does anyone else play sword n board or do all of you play greatsword or something
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>>343445990

The problem is that when you're arguing against the majority of customers who buy something and you as the minority throw a fit that you don't like change, you're going to be on the losing side.
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>>343426876
Feels like Greatsword damage got nerfed.
I don't know how to feel about that. Maybe it's because I don't have crit draw/focus.
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>>343446537
How am I the one wasting his time when you're coming to a place to spout contrarian opinions while admitting nothing will change as a result of it? You would be better off just leaving or not playing. Were both wasting time.
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>>343446646
GS is fine, see:
>>343443545
>>343443646
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>>343431181
You don't need focus. AeGS has it already. It can't get any faster. You should replace that with Crit Draw.
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>>343446691
Because this is a video game discussion forum you stupid piece of shit.
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>>343446557

Why play SnS when you can be meme blade master race.
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>you're not allowed to post opinions that contradicts majority otherwise you're just being contrarian

wow
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>>343446804
That is literally what I'm being told. This is what Capcom drones truly believe.
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>>343446804
You're allowed to im just trying to help you sort out life since wasting time in this manner is unhealthy and unproductive.
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>>343432932
>>343435659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiORv0Tu9Zs
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