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>if you take too long to complete the game, you get the bad ending
Don't worry, Dead Rising 4 will get rid of all those problems.
>>343403970
>first mission
>get thrown in a hub area
>start exploring
>"Anon don't dick around too much in the hub, you need to rescue those hostages!"
>just keep dicking around because it's probably just flavor text
>"TOO LATE ANON THEY ARE ALL DEAD FUCK YOU"
fuck games that do this shit
especially ones that put the whole game under a timer from start to finish
>>343403970
>tfw if you find a secret somewhere, the end of the game mentions it
>>343403970
>>343404692
Human revolution did that once, and then never anything remotely that interesting ever again.
Why?
>>343405696
>>343403970
This is why I never played those dating sim games that give you X number of days to romance 1 or more girls. Fuck that shit man I want to go at my own pace.
>you get the bad ending if you take too much damage
>>343404692
Good old Deus Ex
>>343403970
>Playing the game normally automatically gives you the bad ending
>It's impossible to know that a good ending even exists without spoiling yourself by looking it up on the internet
>>343407154
>playing the game normally gives you the best ending
>for each time you replay it the endings get worse and worse
>if you somehow manage to 100% the game by unlocking some impossible requirements no human could ever be able to figure out you get the worst possible ending as a reward
>>343404198
>problems
>>343403970
>there is a "bad" ending, not just different endings
>sequel comes out which assumes the "good" ending
Why make multiple endings possible if only one is the the true one, anyway?
>you get the bad ending if you're really good at the game
FUCK UNDERTALE TOBY YOU HACK
>>343403970
sounds like somebody needs to get gud
Literally why I never played valkyrie profileand Majora Maskdespite playing over a hundred jrpg in my life.
>playing the game normally gives you a good ending
>snooping around for at least some secrets reveals that there never really was a good ending, only some things were omitted from you to make it seem like it was
>finding 100% everything shows that things were even more fucked than you though before
test
>>343404198
>Base game is set on a timer
>Unlock infinite mode
>"Oh fuck yeah finally"
>IT'S YOUR HEALTH THAT TICKS DOWN THIS TIME
>Also there's limited healing items gl hf
Cheeky fucks.
>>343408606
>really good at the game
>just going back and forth in an area until you kill everything which is arguably easier then sparing everyone
??????
>If all the main characters meet at once it's game over
>Game lets you change outfits
>Characters comment on the stupid shit you put them in
>Characters get angry if you strip them
>Other people question you for running around naked
>Girls get angry when you try to look up their skirts
God bless Japan.
>Ashley in RE4 gets super pissed if you try to look up her skirt
>Actually managing to pull it off shows fully rendered panties with a bow, and not just a lazy texture job
>Game over if you don't beat the game in 2 hours
>>343409268
What game?
>>343409026
What game does this?
Also spoil me please, sounds interesting.
>Game's storyline changes completely depending on how fast you complete the first area
Most games that do this or anything similar have some kind of NG+ so you aren't SOL from seeing everything the game has to offer
>>343409268
https://youtu.be/rmyV_KWU4Zw
>>343409219
I guess he's talking about the 2 additional fights that require you to learn the attack patterns.
>your favorite ending is the "bad" ending
>>343409382Witch's House
>>343403970
And I hate this because I like to spend my sweet time exploring everything.
>>343409361
Omega Quintet has equipable panties... But the girls get mad if you try to look.
Same thing with some of the Neptune games
>>343407154
th-thanks persona 4 that was just 90 hours down the god damn drain
>>343407154
Metro 2033 has to have the most specific requirements of any game to get the good ending. The "bad" ending is canon in the sequel
Another one to thank kojima:
>if you pause the game more than once, EVEN FOR A SECOND, you get the bad ending.
>>343409251
Dude what is this game. Its in mars and is an adventure game right?
>>343410190
Martian Gothic Unification
>>343409623
>are you SURE you're done?
>>no
>are you SUUUUUUUUURE you're done?
>>no
>ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE DONE????
>>no
>okay here's the secret ending
>>343409026
>>343409502
>true ending
Fuck me, fuck this game and fuck the creator
>>343404692
>first level
>Quick, hurry! We have mere seconds before the people of the village are killed!
>piss about for an hour
>literally nothing bad happens
>>343410354
Was it any good or that mechanic was the only cool thing about that game?
>You get the bad ending normally
>You have to pay for the good ending
>game gives you a ton of side activities
>main objectives through the whole games are presented as urgent
>>343411809
fuck ashura
>true ending is not very nice at all
>bad ending is actually the best ending
>Die in Good ending
>Become a ruler of your kind and get a hot nip gf in the Bad ending
>>343407154
Chrono Cross?
>grinding in the optional areas gives you a bad ending
>this is also the canon ending
>game gives you bad ending for killing people
>game actually gets harder if you kill people
>more enemies, enemies are stronger too
Fuck dishonored. Loved it, but that was stupid. Preferred the bad end anyway
>>343403970
luigi's mansion was originally going to do this. the beta for that game has a lot of interesting things in it.
>>343409870
Woah, what? What game?
>Game has a timer
>Turns out not to matter
>>343409682
The "bad" ending is the canon one, since its the same as the book's ending.
>>343415548
I actually read the book, surprised how accurate the game was to it. Now it's going full circle with the final book in the series being based off of last light.
>Game actively tells you to take your time
>You actually get a better experiance, gear and more plot by doing the optional areas instead of rushing through.
>>343413227
How are they stronger? I thought you just got more zombies. Weepers. Whatever.
Also, the game is harder if you don't kill people, but becomes harder if you do. It's quite cunning.
>>343403970
>you need to speedrun through a majority of the game to get the best weapon and even then it's found in an obscure corner that you have no idea or indication that it's there.
>>343416116
The guards become more alert and the final level becomes jammed packed with guards.
>>343407154
Good ol' Cave Story
>>343416308
That may have been tolerable in FF9 if it had ng+.
Anyone know if you can use cheat engine to get Excalibur 2 at the beginning in the steam release.
>You can die and retry as many times as you want but you need to beat the game in 1 hour real time.
>Single Player RPG.
>Doesn't have NG+
There's no excuse
>>343407154
Suikoden II. I'm sure no onesaved Nanami and Jowyon the first try without reading guides.
>>343416576
you could just change the time played to 00:00:00 when you get there.
>>343407154
Valkyrie Profile?
>if you beat the final boss you get the bad end
>>343415827
Yeah, the game was a great adaptation of the book (they do skip one or two slower chapters from the book in the game, although its understandable).
I had a really good time with the game, especially since i got it as a gift shortly after i finished reading the book. it was really fun to compare the developers designs to how i imagined things while reading.
>Now it's going full circle with the final book in the series being based off of last light.
So he already started writing the book? Neato, last time i heard about the author he was talking about making a book based on last light.
I still need to play LL and read metro 2034 (although i remember hearing that it was sort of a letdown when compared to 2033).
>>343407154
Parasite Eve 2 sort of.
Damn situational requiments trough different parts of the game
>>343407154
Silent Hill 2?
>>343413227
There's a fucking plague being spread by rats, and you're leaving a bunch of bodies around for them to feast on. Also since you're killing everyone people are getting paranoid.
In what way should this not happen?
>you can lose due to bad rng
Is there a single thing that makes a game more unplayable?
>>343404692
Do any games do this other than Human Revolution?
>The best endingimois the one where you don't get the girl, follow your dreams AND GO TO SPACE
>>343416883
Then it would only be usable on the final boss and whats the point in an Uber strong weapon if you can only use it once.
Star Contol 2 was the best at this.
If you take too long, they start killing off the other races, one by one.
When I was a kid I got the ending where only the human race was left standing.
>>343403970
>completing objectives gives you more time to get the good ending
>>343408273
That's basically Nier.
>>343417464
Catherine was alright
>>343417346
>rng
Why don't people just call it luck, since that is what it boils down to. Too normie tier for your super sekrit elite gaming jargon?
>>343417982
oof, cringe
>>343417982
wat
>>343417982
acronyms and new words too hard for you champ?
>>343418056
>>343418092
>(pseudo-)random numbers
>not luck
>>343418247
i know what it means. just seems retarded
>>343417982
buttblasted normie who never graduated elementary
>>343418408
>all the cool kids use it, so I'll use it too to fit in
often it doesn't even make that much sense.
>Can only get the normal ending on a first run of the game
>Have to complete the game a second time to get the best ending
>killing the mastermind villain that has been destroying the world for the past years gives you bad ending
>letting him live gives you good ending
>>343409870
Which game?
>>343418561
>he doesn't know why it's called rng
Also, rng =/= luck
>>343418984
>Also, rng =/= luck
If you get random numbers that cause something bad for you to happen, you are unlucky. If the random numbers cause something good for you to happen, you are lucky. In the majority of cases it is used, yes, rng means luck.
>>343415827
It was based on the game very very loosely though.
>>343419286
Oh, wait, I get it. Whining about being unlucky makes you sound like a bitch. Whining about "bad rng" makes you sound like you know your shit.
>>343406265
>get the bad end if you die at any point in the game
>>343420238
>get the bad ending if you choose a seemingly irrelevant dialogue option
Fable 3? Game sucked because of it
>bad ending is canon
>the "good" ending is completely subjective based on what primary color you prefer
>>343409502
>Best ending is dying to a trap.
That game hurt me.
>fail a mission
>mission is cleared, you survive but fail at whatever you were trying to do
>if you fail one of the first missions the story branches off into the shitty ending
>if you fail a mission about halfway into the story, it branches off into the bad ending
Flawed game, but I liked how every mission had an alternate outcome and would absolutely buy a remake.
>>343407154
fnaf3?
>if you use continues you get the bad ending
>>343407154
Vanguard Bandits
>>343403970
Didn't the original Fallout do this?
It's been ages since I played that game.
>You get the bad ending if you use your dark powers even once.
>Game gives you a pop up window tutorial on how to use your dark powers when you get it, but never mentions any kind of consequences on it if you do use your dark powers.
>>343417254
It was easy as hell to get the good ending in SH2.
>The ending of the game is based on your reputation and not your morality
>If your an evil character with good publicity you suddenly turn good at the end for no reason
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>You get a pretty shitty ending if you beat the final boss.
>You get a far better ending if you lose to the final boss.
>>343422998
what?
>>343409502
DELETE THIS
>4 out of 6 endings are bad
>the ending on your first walkthrough is decided by luck
>to get a good/true ending you must complete the normal ending first.
>>343417452
Megaman z1 in one of the missions involving rescuing hostages from a train or something like that.
>>343407154
Undertale
>>343417254
>I'm a retard that gets the shit kicked out of me so bad I run out of healing items
>The ending you get is based on Chaos Frame, a point system that is never brought up or discussed at any time during the game
>You cannot see what your points are until you beat the game
>In order to influence these points you have to arbitrarily capture different towns with parties of certain alignments depending on the town's condition
Fucking bullshit
>game gives you six different random options
>one of them gives you an item, the other five do jack
>only have one chance to pick an option
>game has a good ending
>completing all the end game content gives you an even better ending
>/v/ casuals circlejerking again
nothing to see here, move alongDR 1, 2, and Way of the Samurai are god tier. git gud
>>343425305
Fucking Ogre Battle
>>343403970
>Game offers you choices
>None of them affects the ending.
>>343407154
This is why I hate Atelier
>>343417452
Mass effect 2, more of your crew dies based on how long you dick around before the final mission
>>343424920
Not really. The game straight up tells you what to do to get the best ending before finishing the game for the first time.
>>343409382
Dark Souls
>>343426209
Only if you don't kill flowey though
>>343413130
La Pucelle was weird. NIS's demon boner is too strong
>The bad ending involves a Bane reference.
>The Narrator at the start of the game is replaced by a lying impostor while you were busy naming your character
>>343426337
Sans also tells you about the true meaning of LV and something about the consequences of your actions before fighting Asgore, so that's also a huge hint.
>bad ending is better thematically and is thus the good ending
>Game has super strict guidelines for the true ending
>End up not really enjoying the game because you can't take a single step without consulting a guide
>Constantly worried that you messed up the one thing to screw you out of it
>>343425940
>Game has several choices
>Literally none of them matter whatsoever
Why is Bioshock Infinite so heavily praised, again?
>>343426590
What is Metal Gear Solid?
>>343427324
Overhype from earlier trailers, Liz being best waifu.
>>343426824
hate that shit
>>343427652
Zone didn't even try on this one.
>Game has multiple different mutually exclusive endings
>Canon ending is all of them happening at the same time
Fucking Daggerfall
>you get the bad ending if you take too long
>time spent on the pause/menu screen counts
>>343426824
>>343417346
>>343417982
Yeah! Why can't you just capitalize the initialization instead of just leaving it lowercase? I mean as is, RNG looks like mg/rng. I, in all of my infinite wisdom, was so fucking confused for ten seconds as I tried to figure out what the fuck MG stood for.
>bad metal gear?
>bad magic gauge?
>bad meta game?
>>343428812
You gotta get yourself some fucking glasses, Anon.
>>343428896
help, the lenses keep falling out and I'm fairly sure I need stronger ones, I don't want to go blind by the time I'm 25.
>>343403970
Castlevania 2 Simon's Quest? That's the first thing that comes to mind.
>your father wants you to go visit a monk
>you wanna go hunting instead
>halfway down the road you hear news of a village being attacked
Wherever you go, the outcome is the same.
>>343423743
Ogre Battle?
I mean, ogre battle for the n64 at least made more sense by making the alignment lawful and chaotic instead of good and evil.
>>343426503
Okay, I'll bite, what the fuck is this?
>to get the good ending you have to not hurt anyone even though the game will specifically tell you to do so in the beginning
>>343417346
>you can lose due to bad rng
Oddly enough this boss is the first thing that comes to mind. You can lose to this fight so easily if luck is against you.
>strongest weapon in game
>have to get to last area of game in under 12 hours to obtain
>not even for your MC
God I love FFIX though
>>343429408
That's from OFF right?
>>343428812
your shitty font rendering is not my problem
>>343429635
Nah, it's from some F2P phone gamewhich recently got "remade" on the 3DS, although it's 10$ nowcalled Battle Cats.
>>343403970
Fallout 1 was amazing
>>343429758
Pretty much what he said.At least they took out the in app purchases BS.
>MC literally genocides half of the human race
>becomes a literal mega Hitler, only getting by because everybody fears him so much
>he even kills the strongest good guys and bad guys who all ganged up on him at once
>this is considered the best ending
What game /v/?
>>343429885
Aw fuck, was there yet another SMT game i didn't know about?
>>343426098
No? In fact, if you do everything and take forever doing all the crew quests it increases the chance your crew survives.
>>343429117
I was more talking baldur's gate considering the game heavily punishes you for having a low rep. So suddenly I become a good God despite being chaotic evil.
>>343430285
Oh right! I had blocked that out of my mind, since I've been trying to work on my self-loathing issue.
>If you get the true ending before getting the normal ending, the true ending becomes a bad ending
>>343430278
He means the crew that got kidnapped during the collector raid where you play as Joker
Go right away and you save them, otherwise that doctor lady and over half of the crew will die
>>343426824
Persona 3
>>343430110
>>343430285
>>343430505
Well those do fit but my game isa mech game
>>343407154
Fucking Bomberman 64.
>game hypes up this boss battle as the final boss and he's hard as fuck
>if you lose to him, you get the 'true ending' where everyone diesand one of the supporting leads gets raped to death
>if you beat him it turns out you're just at the halfway point of the game, and there's still a shitton of stuff left to do
>if you complete all of that, you get the good ending which is actually labeled the 'bad ending'
>it's still unclear which exactly is the canon ending
>>343430526
I can't for the life of me figure out what this is... is this supposed to be undertale? Because that doesn't fit quite right... what other games remember previous attempts at the game?
>>343429885
>>343430696
Old king best bro
>>343430942
999 iirc
>The final battles of the game have you progressively turning into a mutant
>The final cutscene has you attempting to devour your adopted daughter that you spent the entire game looking for
It hurts... You have to scream
>>343431075
oh, right the game where one of the characters is going through the timeline over and over again to find the best ending.
>>343430696
>>343430967
>Sorry friend, I can't help you any more. I'm glad we got to know each other better.
>The intro of the game tells you to dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed
>The end cutscene has you actually dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed
>>343431219
Have you played it? If you haven't I highly recommend it. The little girl causes everything
>>343409075
F-
I wouldn't call people casuals for wanting infinite time but it definitely does cheapen the challenge. Part of the fun for me in 1 and 2 was figuring out what to do when and what to save for later. Felt like solving a puzzle in a similar way to the Hitman games. Also with 2 it immersed me into the game that much more constantly thinking about saving my daughter.
>>343428812
thankfully I'm not alone in my wondering how a bad metal gear gave him a bad ending
>>343430908
is this a Taro Yoko game?
>>343430278
There's a quest that, if you do it, it starts an internal timer for the capturing mission, and if you don't get everything done in time, you're fucked.
>>343413713
>>343418870
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_Adventure
>>343432050
Witch and the Hundred Knight, on the PS4.
>Have to do NG+ to get the good ending
>>343431097
>Game gets an epilogue DLC chapter
>Starts with you as said daughter fighting off your mutant dad
>siding with the bad guys gives you the good ending
>beat the game
>NG+ is called a "new cycle" or some shit
>intro cutscene is just slightly different as to imply it was affected by the ending of your first playthrough
TRAAAAANSSSISSSTORRRRR
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHITTTTTTT
>Ending where the player character's daughter becomes so ungodly powerful and evil that she kills Satan and inadvertently takes his place as Queen of Hell
>This is somehow the worst possible ending when she can grow up to be a literal prostitute
>>343407154
> playing the game normaly doesn't give you a hug man
>start up game
>game has you name a character
>that character turns out to not even be the MC
>not even a party member
>is completely irreverent aside from one part of the game
>>343434813
>Mother 3 asks for your name early on
>very rarely mentions it again
>never has any relevance
>until the very end where every single character says goodbye to you directly and how much they'll miss you
>>343407154
>kill character and regret it
>reload old save and dont kill character
>"I still know what you did, Anon"
>>343407154
>Dark Matter Saga Kirby in a nutsheel
>>343428812
rng rng
>>343403970
>if you complete the game too quickly, you get the bad ending
>>343403970
Metroid games.
>>343403970
Splatterhouse 3 was frustrating
>>343403970
What is Mega Man X5?
>>343432546
I think I played some Kemco game and the DS remake of Lufia 2
>>343403970
With the amount of time you have to finish Fallout 1, you have no one to blame but yourself for this.
>>343424504
Hello?
>>343435219
>mfw
For all the shit it gets, undertale was alright
>>343435643
delete this
>>343425940
Deus Ex, except for the very last button you press.
>bad ending is infinitely better than good ending
>Forced tutorial
>Tutorial forces you to make an idiotic mistake
>Characters in game criticize you for making the mistake
>>343435219
what gaem?
>>343436498
Undertale
>>343426098
The worst/best thing about that is that you can only unlock Legion's loyalty mission AFTER your crew gets kidnapped so you basically have to decide whether you want to save the girl yeoman or whatever she was, or tell the entire Geth fleet that the Reapers are not gods and get them to peace out + become besties with Legion, voiced by the baller that is D.C. Douglas.
It's annoying but it's also one of the few instances I can think of where doing one major quest that could be considered main or essential, fucks up the main story because you did it and "wasted time".
>>343434502
You saying you don't want your daughter to grow up to suck dicks for a living?
>>343436449
>Tutorial is somebody telling you what to do
>Before each action
>You can't set text speed until after tutorial is done
Name those 2 games
>different endings and final boss battle's phases depending on how much of the game you actually completed
>>343436554
As long as you do Legion's loyalty mission and only Legion's loyalty mission after the crew is kidnapped, everyone survives.
>>343422998
What's wrong if her legs holy shit
>>343432546
>have to play the game through 3 full times to get all the party members
>there's 44 party members
>>343437057
Sounds like some shit Shining Force would do.
>>343436554
You have time to do one mission after the kidnapping before Kelly dies.
>>343437057
Chrono Cross?
>>343436554
You're full of shit. Your crew doesn't get kidnapped until one full mission after you've completed the Reaper base mission. If you do Legion's loyalty mission immediately after getting the IFF, you're fine.
>>343437057
Chrono Cross?
>>343436598
Probably some SRPG like Fire Emblem.
>>343430543
>otherwise that doctor lady and over half of the crew will die
That doesn't happen. Chakawas will always be alive by the time you hit the Collector base, even if she's the only one left. She can, however, die for other reasons.
>>343436823
>>343437183
>>343437239
I just replayed it like 2 months ago. The only mission I did was Legions and she died and I got bitched at by Chakwas for it.
If that's true I have no idea why it was fucked up for me.
>>343417014
2033 is unique, in Last Light they get more into the Evolution stuff, while in the first it stays a bit mystique.
Thats where i see the problem, i was very scared during Metro 2033, whereas Last Light not so much, but you gotta play yourself. It's still hard on the upper difficulties.
>>343403970
Fallout 1
>game has Good, bad, and neutral endings
>Neutral ending is the strongest emotionally and the most bittersweet
Bioshock 2 gets a lot of flack but its neutral ending is really solid.
>spend hours trying to figure out the alternate ending
>it mentally scars you
>>343438886
Most of bioshock 2's endings were solid. Minerva's den's ending was solid as well.
>>343408973
Same for me with Valkyrie Profile. Considering the time limit I couldn't stand to play it without a guide to make the most efficient use of the limited days without missing anything. I played about 6 hours and quit. Using the guide the game was not fun because I was just following a list of instructions. Without the guide I'd just get frustrated because I know I'd be missing events and characters left and right. Fuck that game. The battles are fun but the time limits just killed it for me. It's like having an axe over your head the whole time.
>>343409382
If you can read between the lines with Soul Nomad, there's nothing good about the "good guys."
Heck, the fact that Drazil didn't take your soulthe first time you diedindicates that he wasn't trying to siphon off Haphnes's world until AFTER Layna/Virtuous decided to declare war on his entire world.
>game puts a practically unsolvable puzzle at the very beginning
>>343439835
>>343417982
>super sekrit elite gaming jargon?
What a faggot.
>be sure to capture the towns with the right units, and don't wipe squads out for their fancy items, or you will be known as worse than Hitler in the end
>game forces an option for you
>ridicules and says you're worse than satan for making the choice it wanted you to do
>>343439983
indeed, why would you use rng lol
>>343440079
Fuck off you cunt
>>343403970
That's Metroid 3. I hated the 3 hour limit, it killed any replay value in that cleared save file to expore and revisit areas.
This concept is absolute bullshit for exploration-driven games. Absolute bullshit.
>>343440064
Reminds me of spec ops and lonesome road
>>343423260
Yeah, you have 90 days from the start of the game to beat it before you get your first bad ending. Some of the bad endings are canon tho so it doesn't matter.
>>343440131
no :^)
did i hurt your feelings? are you questioning your sexuality now?
>>343423260
Yes. If you run out of time, you can risk the vault running out of water or the inhabitants being abducted and turned into mutants.
>>343440246
>do you feel like a hero yet
Yes i do
>>343440282
You're hilarious, anon.
>>343403970
>Game has options to turn into Demon(s)
>You can remain human but, the game is more difficult.
>Taking the harder route and remaining human gives you the bad ending,
>>343440204
it's called speedruns grandpa, it's good for games to support and encourage skill.
>final boss is actually a boss gauntlet of three bosses
>second boss has two phases
>third boss is a triple boss
>you can't save or heal between the phases
>>343420880
>what is ME3
>being smart and responsible in the witcher 3 gives you the worst ending
>>343440509
NAME
ONE
GAME
>>343417346
>Emperor/Empress are so easy, P3 allows you to actually use the full-moon day for social links
>The fuckers can instant win if the emperor crits the protagonist and follows up with another attack on him
>Then you need to do the whole day, the whole Fuuka rescue sequence, EVERYTHING all over again
>There's pretty much nothing you can do if the RNG decides to pull this
Fuck atlus and their idea of how jrpgs should work. The only reason it was playable was due to random dungeon floor layouts & mob encounters, instead of atlus's usual Teleport Mazes Galore & random encounters (50% being surprise encounters) every 6 steps.
>>343430526
Fucking 999. I was on my way to the True End first time through, so the story just fucking ended because I didn't do all the other stuff.
>>343440610Cave Story
>>343440586
its more not babying her to not get the bad ending.
>>343429408
Did they change where you can replay levels without using cat energy? I might have another go with it.
>>343439190
Never played minerva's den and the DLC is impossible to buy thanks to the removal of the GFWL store
>game has multiple endings
>all shit
>devs try to change/extend the endings to make them better
>it just makes them all worse
>>343440610
Devil Survivor 1 does something like that but worse. Have to fight a normal map. then every boss you fought so far shows up at the same time. Then the final boss shows up
