Well at least the dub is looking better nowthats not saying much though
Also Persona 5 thread.
No dub vs sub wars allowed
https://twitter.com/YuriLowenthal/status/740329714485600256
Dubs are shit
The chinks will play with japanese voices, why cant we?
>>343397161
Yuri Lowenthall seems like a cool guy
I'm sure I speak for many when I say im tired of hearing his voice though
>>343397330
Everyone is
He is in everything, his range is shit, you can spot him immediately in a game
He is cheap and that is why he always get nip game jobs
that fucking sucks. yuri is a great va and was one of the best in p4. at least hes consistent and can keep up his roles.
>>343397330
Same all i can hera is Yosuke,i like the dude but he has no fucking range
>233 days left
>chinks get to play at the same time as the jap
Fuck Atlus
sub is better, post the va list.
>>343397161
This doesn't indicate anything.
Recording for the dub starts after September 15
Thank god, this guy is fucking terrible.
>>343398106
just import and play in Japanese then. not like the dialogue in these games is all that profound
>"oh! you were peeping on us in the hot springs! pervert!"
>"s-senpai! I didn't know you felt that way... uguu~"
>"let's go fighting power of friendship yay!"
>no Yuri
THANK FUCK!Liam O' Brian and JYB are probably going to be in though.
I fucking hate Atlus.
To think I used to like the company only for me to find out that they're a bunch of inept pieces of shit.
>>343397161
>No dub vs sub wars allowed
NO FUCK YOU
Who pirating this shit on PS3 just so you can play with subs?
>>343398263
That would be excellent. The old english talent is way better than these newfags. johnny and liam beat the shit out of idiots like bryce papenbrook and ashley burch.
>>343398165
>they haven't even started yet? way to be incompetent atlus.
>>343398256
Nice one.
>>343398321
yeah. stick it to the man!
>>343398394
you know I'm right. if you think persona has good writing and truly three dimensional characters, you should reevaluate your life. we all know you play persona for the amazing gameplay.
>>343398329
I think Johnny is a good voice actor, but he has zero range, just like Yuri.
I'd rather not hear him come back in 5 just to do his Adachi/Yu voice.
>>343398453
Quiet.
Lets see if Karen Strassman is back for a third round
>>343398476
That really doesnt matter. Since gooks use their same voice for everything.
why is this such an alien concept to obese weeaboos? people get famous for doing a certain voice that bodes well for a large audience. english or jap. weebs gonna weeb yo
Im fine with Yuri, his Voice acting is fine, its just mostly the same thing
But he wouldnt fit any of the main cast
>>343398685
Why so angry anon?
Were you in nanking?
>>343398685
I don't like it when Nip voice actors use the same voice for every role either though because whenever I hear that person speak, I only think "Oh hey, that guy was X in Y"
>>343398980
then you have autism because you care more about a voice than what the character is doing or their traits.
>>343397963
I don't know why people have such an issue with range if it fits the role. Jap VAs can get typecasted as well.
Some people just get told do that voice and that's fucking it.
>>343399026
Don't get me wrong, I'll still like that character if they're well written, but I think it just detracts from the experience to hear the same person over and over again.
Let some new blood in, just make sure they're decent.
>>343399180
thats the problem. the old blood is way better than the new blood. keep the usual round of actors heard in 3/4/catherine and everything will be perfect
>>343397161
While the dub will most likely be mediocre anyway I'm glad they are not reusing Yuri again, he was great as Toby in Catherine, but if I had to listen to the same exact cast from P4 as the main characters again P5 I would probably return the game.
oh boy! can't wait to play mundane job simulator and test taker 5
thanks, atlus!
>>343398318
I hope Adachi voices one of the main characters, maybe even MC, would be hilarious.
series has become infested by normies now. who gives a shit.
>>343398318
Atlus, or Atlus USA?
>>343399570
>series has become infested by normies now. who gives a shit
>Letting other people affect your enjoyment for a game
How retarded can you be?
>>343399570
>series has become infested by normies now
What?
>>343399771
all those people talking about the trailer.
you just know pewdiepie is going to do a LP.
>>343399832
>you just know pewdiepie is going to do a LP.
And?Who gives a shit about other people.
Are you that insecure anon
>>343399658
Both.
Atlus for willingly neglecting the region with the highest expected sales for Persona 5, and Atlus USA for being completely incompetent, and submissive toward it's mother branch.
>>343399975
you're liking the incorrect things.
>>343399986
how is atlus neglecting japan?
>>343400009
>More liking this thing now! Therefore now is bad liking it too!
You are a pitiful bean
Fuck these fucking hacks holy fucking shit I hate English dubs so fucking much
Where's JYB?
>>343400162
this image is how i heard of ever17
>>343400117
No anon you are misinformed. Persona grew in NA. Just look at Persona 4 Golden sales.
I guarantee you the west will sell more Persona 5 copies than Japan, even with a 5 month gap. Despite all the bullshit Atlus is pulling.
>>343400158
it's already happened when you 3/4 faggots flooded in, shitting up the series. I'll bet you're never even played the first 3.
I'll calm down once they confirm no Ashly Burch.At least tell me she won't voice Futaba
>>343400660
She voiced Rise in dancing all night, right? That dub was atrocious
>>343400550
Its funny because i finished Innocent sin yesterday.I'm sorry you can't enjoy things because other pleople like it maybe one day you will realise how retarded is that mentality
>>343400550
The other world is inside Maki's heart
Jun is the Joker
Maya dies at the end, fulfilling the prophecy and the world is fucked
But it's reset because all the characters let go of their memories
Except Tatsuya who refuses to let go
Which causes EP to happen and the worlds merge
At the end this is rectified by sending Other Tatsuya home.
>>343397161
I don't follow voice actors, who has this Yuri guy voiced? Is he like the Nolan North of anime games or what?
>>343401146
In Persona he voiced MC in P3 ( all those persona name shouts), and Yosuke in 4. He probably did some extras somewhere too.
>>343401457
He was also Pharos and Ryouji in 3.
>>343401457
He voiced that guy who was shot by takaya in his introduction
>>343401457
He was also Serph in DDS.
>>343397462
>He has no range
Do people forget ace combat zero
Will they lock dialogue options again on the first playthrough if you lack courage or whatever bullshit?
Because I have no intention of going into new game+
>>343397330
Johnny Young Bosh and Yuri seem like nice guys and I don't hate them, I just hate that they use the same voice for every character and then every game sounds the same.
>>343405669
Well at least Yuri is out of the equation now
>>343398256
>>343397161
Can someone give me a legit reason why people hate dubs
>>343404918
Yes. Git gud.
>>343405903
Quality.
>>343405903
autism. my gook who voices cartoon teens on low budget late night cartoon shows is better than your amerifat who voices cartoon teens on low budget late night cartoon shows. its pure autism of the highest grain.
>>343405903
They're shit.
>>343405993
>>343406089
>>343406103
This isn't really explaining anything I mean can you explain maybe in depth?
>>343405903
Demonstrably mediocre performances phoned in by the same 10 people with no range or ability over and over.
>>343405669
You shouldn't forget that those voice agencys don't nearly give as much a shit as the devs themselves about the game.
Thats why their casting often bogs down to "Hey you did a good job in game x as character y, please do that voice again"
>>343398263
But thats a good thing! Liam is probably in my top 5 favorite VA's
>>343397161
Thank the good lord. At least he's a good sport about it.
>>343406262
Sounds like the Japanese voice acting industry.
>>343405669
Black Ranger is most likely in Persona 5 if Yuri isn't in it. God fucking damn it I hate dubs.
>>343405903
Smaller pool of actors to hire in the west.
Poor recording conditions in general when it comes to the equipment in recording studios.
Even if the actors are passable sound directors are usually utter garbage.
The original creator has no direct input on them, with some exceptions.(MGS)
What filters to use when it releases in Joppon?
>>343400754
Yes, once of the worse shit I ever hear in my life. I have come to the point that if she is in the game, I am out, I will not support a version that gave her money to put up such a terrible performance. Lady cuck can go fuck herself.
>>343406468
Kojima doesn't cast nor direct the MGS dubs.
>>343406493
You are not going to be able to avoid spoilers unless you fuck off from the internet entirely.
I am sorry Anon, more than the forced dub Atlus USA really fucked you guys up with the half a year delay.
>>343405903
Dubs can be great, but i don't think anyone trust atlus to try and grab a great number of quality voice actors
It really depends on the cast, normally japan doesn't have as bad of cast because of a much larger pool/care for actual voice actors (if you can't act you can't voice act- vise versa)
Sometime the jap voices are shit too
Having dual audio just helps someone decide which is better.
>>343405903
Muh glorious nippon is better, that's all.
I know Japanese and I only choose the JP voice acting if there's only that available.
>>343406365
It certainly does, but I would never know. I can't understand Japanese.
Not knowing is a lot better than knowing when it comes to poor performances. Ignorance is bliss, hence the grating English performances are a lot less preferable to their Japanese counterparts.
>>343406180
English dubs are usually done by amateur/low grade actors that have no clue how to act.
Don't get me wrong, there are a good few dubs out there.
Ghost Stories prove that if actors are given creative freedom with an ip, it can be superior to the original.
DBZ is arguably better than the original.
Those are the exceptions though, not the norm.
Also, japanese voice actors take MAJOR pride in what they do so they are almost always giving a better voice work in anime/video game.
Games with a western setting usually have dub > sub unless the translation or direction is really bad
Games with very japanese feeling always have a bad dub unless it's a shlocky action piece and the original japanese is boring while the dub hams it up.
This is why the dubs of persona 3/4 are kind of bad while the dubs of catherine and DDS are really good.
Please return to your eternal shitposting about dubs/subs now, thank you.
>>343398536
Lah-maow!!!
>>343407873
If you are actually saying the dub of DDS is good, or better than P3/4 dubs in any way, you are out of your god damn mind.
DDS 1-2 had some of the worst dub voices I have ever heard
>>343405951
>Git gud.
There's nothing to get gud about if you need a new game+ to access some of them.
I'm not gonna play a game twice even if it's the best game in the world
>>343405903
takes a lot of time which means the game releases later, and in return it adds nothing to the game, except maybe some laughs
>>343397161
>no Yuri Lowenthal
Thank fucking god. I've heard enough of him to last me a lifetime.
>>343405903
litro the only reason i want the subs this time is because I want Nana Mizuki
>>343408330
You've NEVER replayed a game?
>>343408325
both games have the same voice actors but without cringe inducing writing where they localized the dialogue so hard they have yosuke say epic fail but they still leave in honorifics for the voice actors to stumble over pronouncing like a fandub
>>343408608
No voice in P3 or P4 made me wanna take a power drill to my eardrums. In DDS, I have a hard time finding a voice that doesn't make me wanna do that. Maybe it's the direction, but DDS is so much worse to me. I hate that dub.
>>343408532
Sure, but only if it got a remake or I had some years in between to forget about a good chunk of the game
I'd just rather not have developers force me to do it with what little they add for it.
I prefer games that add the additional content to the same save file I beat the game with. Tales games did this well in the past allowing you to load before the last boss and giving you access to bonus dungeons.
RPGs are lengthy enough and Persona is almost a VN at this point, I have better things to do.
>>343408782
Official P3 dub tier list.
Unbearable: Fuuka, Aigis, Chidori, Natsuki
Mediocre: Ken, Yukari, Jin, Cowboy-Jesus
Okay: Titsuru, Akihiko, Shinjiro, Death
Good: Junpei, Ikutsuki
I learned my lesson and played P4 undubbed. I'm pretty glad I did that, too - as the localized text was bad enough at points that even an EOP like myself took notice.
>pretend to like japanese games
>can't speak japanese
lol
>>343409246
>lol
>not トップ笑
>>343409178
p3 with jap voices is better but for p4 it's the other way around, sure, things like
>NO DON'T SEY IT
>YOU'RE NOT ME
sound cringy as fuck but if you have any basic japanese understanding they're just as cringy in japanese voices, I have listened to both
>>343409246
no one on /v/ speaks japanese, don't kid yourself
>>343410763
And there's also Kuma. I immediately deleted my undub iso upon hearing Kuma, and replayed P4 with the dub.
>>343405903
Atlus' dubs went to dogshit after the first Arena. P4DAN was atrocious.
>>343398263
>JYB and Liam O'Brian
Excellent choice if Atlus picks them.
I've had enough of Yuri, but he might be alright if he actually tries to sound different, if ever.
>>343405903
They hire the same people all the time that have no range. That hack Troy Baker for example. Hiring the same people all the time who do have range is fine. As long as they know it sounds bearable.
>>343411842
Troy Baker has great range.
>>343411196
and rise, if laura bailey is in p5 screw the undub
I feel like Yuri can have decent range at times. I didn't know he was Wonder White from W101 or Zero from FEFates until someone told me.
>>343412225
He sounds alright when it seems like he put effort in his voice acting. Maybe its age, because Demon Yuri is one of the best characters of related game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOasmBndLe0
>>343411842
bear-able
>>343409178
Mistsuru, Aigis, Yukari, Akihiko, Shinjiro and Junpei are all great.
But at least you're not as bad as this shithead >>343410763, who probably thinks that eng Chie is "not that bad".
>>343398321
Right here bro dub fags can eat shit.
>>343398321
I bought a second PS3 just for the undub.
I'm enjoying PS3 Vesperia in the meantime.finally
>>343414378
Aigis is not great, her voice is extremely grating and has little consistency between lines. Even before her "upgrade" half of her lines sound human and the other half sound robotic. Her story dialogue and battle quips have completely different voice direction. This doesn't improve much more for her upgraded battle phrases, either.
I wouldn't really call Shinjiro's acting great, he's hamming it up pretty hard. Reminiscent of a Tony Hawk Underground character. It's not bad, though.
Mitsuru and (particularly) Yukari's dub VAs stumble over honorifics, but that is really more of a fault of the poorly localized script than anything else. Keeps them out of the great category for me despite their consistency.
Akihiko could go into great I guess.
>>343409178
>Takaya in mediocre
No, I don't believe you
Who /IMPORT/ here?
Fuck Atlus USA.
>>343415757
Do you know japanese?
>>343411196
You know Kuma is supposed to be obnoxious, right?
I was pleasantly surprised by his VA after obtaining his human form, the Engrish had me genuinely laughing.
>>343415902
No but I'm a Japanese soul trapped in a white body. I won't have any problems.
>tfw Arsène will sound like shit in english
>all those wasted monologues
>>343415902
Enough for vidya
>>343415902
You don't need to know Japanese to import a game and enjoy it
I didn't know English and enjoyed lots of English DOS games when I was young
>>343415980
Why are you gonna import the game if you dont know jack about japanese?
Thats even more stupid than Atlus no dual audio politic
>>343416153
>You don't need to know Japanese to import a game and enjoy it
But you need japanese to understand the history and dialogues and in Persona theres always a fuckton of that
>>343416149
Holy shit, this looks like garbage,but fun
I bet it attracts hordes of jojofags only because ガッガッガッガッガッガッ
>>343416327
I didn't say you won't miss out on stuff, obviously that's a given, but you'll also learn a lot in return
>>343416204
Menuing isn't hard to figure out, and dialogue has plenty of context clues to go on.
A blind first playthrough of a game wouldn't expect to minmax so complete understanding of dialogue options is unneccesary unless there is something like P4's true ending gated behind it.
I'd imagine most people into SMT enough to import can at least read kana and have rudimentary jap vocab from watching cartoons.
>>343416425
it didn't attract anyone because it bombed
>>343397161
I thought that they were trying to see if bringing Japanese audio as DLC was feasible?
Also, China is getting it with Japanese audio, so that kinda dispels the whole "contract/licensing issues" myth, unless the Japanese audio is Asia-exclusive or something.
>>343405903
The voice work for anime games in particular is no comparable between the 2 regions. You don't get Naughtydog voice acting for anime games you get bottom of the barrel shit.
Then there is the issue that this game in particular takes place in Toyko it would be like playing Yakuza dubbed.
Dubs are shit no matter which way you go why the fuck would I want to listen to Japanese Drake for instance.
>>343415449
Aigis and Shinjiro acting might have been better, but the voices themselves fitted so great, I could forgive some phoned in lines here and there.
dub is still cancer because of ashly burch
>>343399452
He voiced the MC in Persona 4 as well, you idiot. There was a reason for that, too.
>>343416616
>China is getting it with Japanese audio
pls have english subs
>>343401146
He's in practically every Atlus game, a lot of anime and video games and a fair few Western cartoons as well.
>>343411842
>Calling Troy Baker a hack while at the same time praising JYB and Liam O'Brian
There's a reason Troy Baker is in everything nowadays, he's a good voice actor and has a pretty good range.
NANASHI IS AKIRA
FLYNN IS AN IMPOSTER SNEK
MERKABAH AND LUCIFER FUSE TO FORM SATAN
Gonna be fun seeing you assholes trying to avoid Persona 5 spoilers for 5 months without leaving /v/.
>>343417078
That's what I'm praying for. Both Cyber Sleuth and that shitty SAO game had them.
It probably won't happen.
>>343416930
Ashly Burch isn't even announced yet,people were saying the same thing about Yuri and see what happened.
>dub is still cancer
How can you criticize something that doesn't exist?
>watch P3 movie
>Ryoji and MC are the same VA
The difference is talent is obvious anime game dubs are garbage.
>>343416989
Yeah and his Adachi is awful in both Arena and the OVA because his range is shit and Yu has to talk.
>>343417161
fuck you
>waiting 6 months for this shit
How do we punish Atlus?
>>343405903
Murricunt women can't for the life of them voice younger girls correctly.
The VA anime games get are bottom of the barrel shit, not MGS/DMC/Uncharted stuff
>>343417161
I'm gonna avoid /v/ when September hits good luck trying to spoil me
>>343405903
Lost Odyssey and Nier had an absolutely fantastic dub, though I guess in the former's case the English version is the original version considering the lip synching is based off of it. It's more to do with effort rather than English being inherently shit.
>>343417249
Not him, but there's a huge difference between Yuri and Ashly in terms of context.
So far, I have some predictions for the dub.
>Potter-kun - Kaiji Tang
>Ryuji - Ben Diskin
>Anne - Amanda Celine Miller
>>343417249
The Morgana shown was fucking awful not that anyone they got could compare anyway.
>>343417417
Import and spoil everything on the internet for 6 months so the sales tank.
>>343401146
AWWW YEAHH
WHOOO WON THE LOTTERY
Pretty sure he also provides the wimpy FNV player voice.
>mfw EOPs stand near me
>>343418304I also speak Spanish.
>>343397161
Okay I haven't seen anyone else bring it up but there are programs on PC for visual novels that auto translate (not always the best translation but it's something). So why can't I just import the game from Japan and do the ps4 to pc stream thing and run that program? Can anyone think of a reason why this wouldn't work?
>>343418857
So everyone will be voiced by the same robotic voice? Sound like trash.
>>343405903
Here's the thing that's so annoying about not having dual audio.
Capcom does it.
Arcsys does it.
Chunsoft does it.
NISA does it.
Namco Bandai
Fucking IDEA FACTORY DOES IT.
There is literally no fucking reason that Atlus couldn't include the Japanese audio for the game on the disk besides Atlus USA saying "No, we have faith in the dub."
I don't give a SHIT if you have faith in your dub, let me fucking choose which one I like better. Why would you purposefully leave out option s that are standard in almost every single other fucking JRPG/Japanese game on the market?
Are there good English dubs? Yeah, Nier was fantastic. Can dubs that aren't as good as the original language still be good? Of course. Let me fucking choose. It is NOT that fucking difficult and everybody knows it.
>>343418857
OCRs wouldn't be that good if theres background shit constantly running behind the speech bubbles and itd be annoying to resize the window over and over again to fit where they are but I guess if you're desperate.
>>343418994
It translates text not speech actually. So you'd have the japanese dub and somewhat bad subtitles. I've done it for PC eroge but I haven't tried it on the PS4 to PC streaming service
>>343397161
>No yuri
fuck everything, he's a cool guy and I like his voice
>>343419372
Honestly I can understand japanese fairly well but there are certain words that are lost to me and I don't think I can correct that in time for release. If I can just have a helper even on a second monitor I wouldn't mind.
is it me or all gooks sound the same, acording to their sterotype they are representing?
>old voice
>fat voice
>young kawaii ugu voice
>manly voice
and of course
>bear voice
>>343416835
DELETE THIS
>>343420016
Hi John
I have my collectors edition coming in the mail on Sept.15, how about you guys?
>>343418857
>machine translations
You're better off just making up your own plot.
John Hardin Here
Mods please delete this >>343416835
>>343412225
>>343412853
It still just sounds like Yuri doing a silly accent with his usual voice.
I swear, I've heard the guy too much to not recognize it immediately.
>>343405903
I don't hate dubs, I just hate shitty dubs
>>343420665
Normal PS4 edition lad
>>343409372
>not トップw
>>343420696
Well like I said here >>343419628
I just want a helper off on my second monitor for stuff I can't quite understand. It sounds like it would work though so that's good.
>have a CFW
>want to play it on my PS4
>Atlus won't let me buy audio DLC
Why bros.
>>343421379
John hardin here, Eat shit and Enjoy Ashly burch
>>343414378
and you're probably a guy who thinks that rise's voice actors performance is epitome of voice acting?glorious nippon voice actingchie is the only one who has worse voice in english though
>>343397161I'm fine with English dubs. I'm learning Japanese anyways so if I like the game enough I'll replay it in original language.
>>343418304
Shut up and suck this EOP dick, slut.
>>343397330
Yup, sadly he has little range. Really enjoyed him as Yosuke even though I didn't play P4 until last year. I think he fits younger people like Yosuke and the prince best.
>>343421569
Teddie is the only one better in English because of bear puns.
>>343407532
>DBZ is arguably better than the original.
Only adult male characters voiced by Masako Nozawa. Sean Schemmel is objectively a better Goku.
>>343405903
Because the voice directors have gotten lazy as shit and don't do quality control.
>>343422005
sure if you like to hear rise squealing like a japanese pornstar
>>343421569
Kugyu's Rise sound exactly like she should sound according to the character she is acting, that of a peppy airhead teenage girl.
You not liking how something sounds doesn't mean necessarily mean it's a bad performance, that is a poor way to measure if a voice actor did his/her job correctly. Some actors care more about characterizing the role properly than sounding pleasing to the ear.
I think Rise is annoying no matter the track and having to listen to her through the whole game even more so, but that has more to do with her character than any voice actor. Same with Kuma.
>>343409178
Ikutsuki sounds off to me. Aigis gets away with it because she's a robot.
>>343420665
Ready to pirate PS3 version as soon as it hits.
>>343420396
>>343420731
I just now found out Aram is PR to Sony now.
>>343411196
I liked JP Kuma's voice and had no problem with it
>>343422508
Apart from her idol persona Rise isn't an airhead though. She's the most mature party member apart from Naoto.
>>343411196
>I perfer the dub because I hate squeaky voices of Teddie and Rise
>dub contains high pitched Erin Fitzgerald (or the oter 'is this our chance' nobody they had in original)
I'll never get people like you.
>>343424219
if both versions have squeaky voices you've gotta take the one that has less of them, in this case, that is the english one
>>343417579
Also the voice director did his job correctly.