What happened between Mega Man classic and Mega Man X?
How did Rock and Roll die?
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>>343377629
Dr. Wily released Zero.
>>343377629
Disco.
Probably voluntary deactivation after a lifetime of fighting Dr. Wily.
Light Labs probably went bankrupt and forgotten trying to push for ethical and equal treatment of robots in a world that could care less for the concept, something that was maintained well into the Zero series.
Zero was never activated prior to his release in the X era according to interviews.
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>>343378904
Thick and so forth
>when people believed Zero was X's version of Roll
>>343377865
that would explain why Light Labs was in ruins and there were no real advances in robotics for 100 years
>>343377629
MTV
>>343377865
Or rather the advances were simply not at all enough to match the genius of Light and Wily, who were literally centuries ahead of the field. It took until the ZX series for the Weapon Copy System to be independently developed and surpassed by another Doctor.
I don't quite know how Cossack would rank compared to the two though, although considering he has a spot in the Sage Trinity he's probably important to some degree, either as a roboticist in his own right or becauseCiel could be his descendant
>>343379597
>>343379181
>quotting the wrong person
Well ain't I a newfag tonight
>>343379597
Cossack always kinda did his own thing
maybe when he found out that X and Zero were in the makings he stepped out of robotics to spent time with his family or something
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>>343377693
FUCK YOU
>>343379896
I always assumed Cossack was the best "regular" roboticist, since Light and Wily were so ahead of everyone else.
>>343379223
Underrated
>>343380124
Cossack was a pretty good roboticist since he made a team of Robot Masters and Beat, while most normal roboticists made only one
He was wise enough to not get between Light and Wily
>>343380124
Probably one of many though, consider that all the Robot Masters of Mega Man 6 [I believe?] are actually created by unammed roboticists from all over the world.
And yet it's still hard to see Cossack as the leading roboticist of the "screw robots, they're only tools" society that necessarily would have to exist to shun Light's ideas to the point of obscurity.
>>343377629
I don't know, but it must have been traumatic. Robotics was nuked back to the stoneage, with robots being even more simplistic than they were during megaman. The fact that none of Megaman's supporting cast exist, Dr. Light's lab was undiscovered in the wreckage of a lost city, and that X needed to be tested to see if it would ever kill a human being meant that some serious SHIT went down.
How long was it between the end of classic and the start of X. I was sure it was only 20 years but everything seems to suggest a longer period of time.
>>343380489
>"screw robots, they're only tools"
Honestly, that seemed to me to grow out of the lack of advancement between Light's death and X's discovery, since nine of Light's promises would have panned out from that perspective. Then it arose out of a reaction to Reploids being too human, since nin-virus Mavericks are only evil if you view robots as tools and not essentially people.
>>343380716
X was in storage for at least 100 years IIRC
>>343380716
X was supposed to be tested for thirty years, but it actually took one hundred years for him to be discovered. We don't actually know the time between the end of Classic and X being finished though.
It starts to get weird considering some of Classic occurs during 20XX and some of X occurring during 20XX. There isn't much time to work with within those ranges.
>>343380710
At least as far as X's testing goes, that was entirely Dr. Light's decision based on the fact that X was the first robot with full autonomy to bypass the Three Laws of Robotics, an event that naturally would make a roboticist very cautious. The capsule was programmed to literally spend 20 or 30 years testing X's cognitive systems in order to either instill in him a strong sense of morality or to verify wether he could develop one independently like Mega Man did, but after that it didn't open automatically and release X into the world, it just laid dormant until Dr. Cain found the ruins, activated X and reverse-engineered his Suffering Circuit.
Alternate continuities/universes. I refuse to believe that the fucked yet somewhat happy-go-lucky world of MM becomes the grimdark world of MMX. I'll casually accept that the world of MMX becomes the world of MMZ but that still requires a few mental gymnastics.
>>343381162
Its funny how you always imagine megaman and X being similar but in reality megaman was an emotionless uncanny valley type of thing.
>>343377683
Nope, confirmed false
>>343381368
What gymnastics does it take from X to Z? The world was on the road to the shitter before X even started and a decades of continual wars X and Zero failed to stop didn't help the situation at all.
>>343381472
Literally every bit of artwork, and every cutscene in the series says otherwise. Megaman was very much human with a personality of his own, but he was also still slave to the laws of robotics. Removing this was a major factor of X's existence.
>>343381368
I'm the opposite, for some reason I really like the concept of taking the carefree NES world of Mega Man and having its characters become basically legendary in the sense that their creations and actions basically shape the world as we see it in the X series and beyond. It becomes rather otherworldly when you play a Mega Man game and see Dr. Light's cheerfulness and hope for the future and remember all the disaster that is still to come down [to the point of his legacy affecting things 9000 years down the line in Legends], or the ties that emerge between things that a more "serious" setting could never make work, like theories of the Zero virus being a derivative of Evil Energy or Mega Man X being more a successor of Gamma more than Mega Man proper.
It really makes for a very interesting and unique mythos, which is why I'm glad the series died before Capcom could reboot it and scrub all the interesting and accidentaly smart writing away.
>>343381909
Is Legends in the same timeline? I forgot. It seems completely different considering all the stuff with the Reapers and Elysium
>>343382364
Yeah, Legends is the very far end of the timeline. Supposedly ZXA's ending is hinting at the flood that would usher in the Legends age. The only series that aren't in the main timeline are Battle Network and Starforce. Arguably Xover too, mostly due to apathy.
>>343382364
It is, but far enough that the events of the earlier subseries have very little bearing on it beyond "Mega Men" still being a thing and there being a Wily-lookalike running around fishing all day.
>>343382364
Main timeline: Classic -> X -> Zero -> ZX --huge time leap-> Legends
>>343382364
It goes Classic - X - Zero - ZX - Legends in one timeline, Battle Network - Star Fox in another, and XOVER is something else
>>343373359
http://www.strawpoll.me/10635722
>>343377629
Future Rock got kidnapped by a time traveling Dr Wily. Was reprogrammed as Quint and given a stupid pogo stick jackhammer to fight present day Megaman.
>>343382503
>You'll never get a Legends 3 and/or interquels that show in detail about how things came to be between each saga
One last set of Mega Man games Capcom then you can put them on ice for XXXX years
>>343381612
but would capcom really confirm the Zero Killed Rock?
>>343382979
No, because they already confirmed he didn't. There's not really anywhere else to go with that.
Is it Mega Man or Megaman?
>>343382810
I like the gap, to be honest. Leave it up to the imagination, the alternative would be them continuing the ZX timeline and that one really annoyed me with how grating their villains were, always screaming about how superior and amazing and destined for greatness they were while in fact they were nothing but children playing with the broken remains of technology left behind by people far smarter than then
>>343382979
Capcom is usually silent in these matters. They leave the fans to their own theories.
For them to actively deny something is very meaningful.
>>343383154
ロックマン
People who ask this are American comic book fans with autistic obsession over continuity andzeroimagination.
>>343383226
What ties MM to MMX aside from one cutscene in MMX4 and an ending to a non-canon arcade game?
>>343384032
All of the Light capsules, including the first introduction to X.
>>343381637
The whole Mother Elf Wars thing kind of comes out of nowhere. I wish the Zero games had addressed it in SOME way and tied it more neatly, maybe having the Mother Elf be somehow based on the antivirus that Dr. Doppler coded for the Sigma Virus in X3 or something along those lines
>>343384032
The ending of X5 pretty strongly implies that the Zero Virus has been somehow inprinted with a copy of Dr. Wily's personality, and that the Light Holograms might actually be self-aware in the same fashion. Either an AI present in the capsules or, what's more likely, on X's own systems.
>>343384242
>>343384153
Neat. Thanks for the refresher, niggas. Although I hate how the climactic X5 finale is torn asunder by the events of X6.
>>343384497
Storywise X6 has its faults, but it presented the villain that the X series needed. I like Gate far better than Sigma as a villain.
>>343381715
One thing they never got to really tackling before the series died was the implication that the robot masters were entirely capable of free will, but forcefully locked from having it...against their will, so to speak. It's a real shame the comics went kill.
>>343384803
>there will never be another ride on /v/ with the Conductor dumping Archie Mega Man comics for us
F
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>>343377629
Didn't Zero have a flashback of killing Mega Man at the beginning of X4?
>>343384625
Pity the series immediately jumped back to Sigma with 7 and 8. I never liked Sigma much, and his absolute refusal to stay dead was both annoying and a borderline self parody by the end.
>>343386570
No he had a flashback to killing maverick hunters, which concludes when he confronts Sigma.
None of the bodies resemble anyone from the classic era.
>>343386883
>X8
>Anon never finished it
>>343388886
I'm getting the impression you want to hear an overblown reaction to the specific game boss and the Sigma fight not being in that order in X8.
But Sigma was still there. Fuck hundreds of him where there.
>>343377629
Elvis deaded.
>>343381472
Rock had emotions and shut but what confuses me is how X is the first robot with free will but Rock made the decision to become a hero all on his own,so why is that not the same?
>>343389479
Doesn't Proto Man have free will as well?
>>343389479
Well that's possible because autonomy and free will are not the same thing. Rock volunteered because he had a strong sense of justice. One Light programed him with.
Of course the Classic series only tried to make these claims to back-door the X series, and other than 7 did fuck all job integrating anyshortcomings or rules muchless Asimov's rules.
>>343381909
Who or what is Gamma?
>>343383226
It was neat with Zero. ZX clearly wanted to get this shit over with and push forward to the Legends game.
Robots cant die silly they just stop working
>>343381909
The series is getting rebooted soon
>>343378904
I would fuck the ever loving fuck out of that femZero
