What is /v/'s opinion of System Shock 2?
Does the co-op work well in this game?
respond to me you fucking piece of shit you made this thread and left it
>>343355871
Not him, but I played about 20 minutes of coop with a friend the other night, things seemed to work well enough. I have yet to play another session so I don't know if there's going to be anything fucked up in terms of inventory or upgrades.
>>343356104
thank you
>>343354815
It works so you can finish the game together, but the experience would not be smooth, expect to crash at bulkhead level transitions from time to time. There's also inventory dupe bug when you load the game but it's avoidable as far as i know.
>>343354683
One of the best games ever. It's got a solid place in my top 10. Super atmospheric, great story, wonderful ost, and fun gameplay that changes with each build you use.
>>343354683
I like it quite a lot, it's a bit unpolished though specially towards the end.
Hopes, dreams and fears regarding the kickstarter?
>>343357413
I hope ss1 fags get btfo and we get SS: the SS2 Edition.
>>343356673
His name was G654342 not 1467243080088 you dumb fuck shit.
>>343358450
nah
Is maintenance worth it at all?
I had played this years ago but had to stop due to crashing issues, and I remember having a lot of trouble finding maintenance tools. Just recently I picked it up again and leveled up repair, and it seems I can just fix weapons indefinitely, never even touching a maintenance tool.
>>343354683
playing now and enjoying it
>>343357413
All the fears are right in the stretch goals
>Hay the original game didnt have this lettteeeeeeeeettts add it!
Why the fuck would they remake System Shock 1 when no one fucking played it or liked it?
>>343360235
Because people have played ss2 and might be interested in 1 based on that
>>343360235
Because SS1 is near unplayable today, while there's a bunch of mods that turn SS2 into something that you could mistake for an indie game released this year.
Good game but flawed by lots of poorly thought out systems and levels especially towards the end
>>343360235
>>343360731
You are so fucking wrong
>>343360235
Here's to (You)
>>343360731
SS1 Enhanced Edition is absolutely playable. I hate this mindset that "Old games are unplayable because they're different than games I'm used to playing and I'm too much of a stubborn retard to adapt and learn how to play", it's fucking ridiculous.
>>343360932
Too bad it's true though. Try to get a normie to play SS1 EE
>>343360731
Interesting theory, it certainly can pass for 2016 indie by just looking at screenshots
>>343360924
>>343360932
Go find someone who never played SS1 before, someone who doesn't play older games normally.
They will say it controls like shit, they won't be able to work with the UI, they will have a bad experience with the game.
Now Put them inf ront of a modded SS2 and compare.
>>343354683
The first game is objectively better in every way
>>343354683
creepiest and scariest game I ever played without using cheep jumpscare or other shit like that. 10/10 can't wait what SS3 would looks like, but I'm not expecting it to be better than 2
>>343362020
I mean like, just fucking look.
Which one of these do you think an average person looking into the franchise for the first time today would be willing to play?
>>343357413
Speaking of Kickstarter projects, how's Ultima Ascendant doing?
guys i cant get past this part
A great game, but the atmosphere falls apart now.
One thing you can't take away from older games (unless we're talking 16-bit before real tracks) is the audio. It's something that makes or takes away from the atmosphere of a game. I really think that sound is one of the most powerful tools in media. Sorry if you're deaf, then it's light spectrum. I mean there are some games that technically aren't very good but the designers nailed the lighting and sound.
>>343363421
There should be an elevator in the room behind you, look closely for the button on the wall. That's an optional storage closet there.
Masterpiece.
Even with the Body of the Many and the final run/boss, it's a light 10 at worst.
>>343354683
I haven't play it but I have played its spiritual "successors" Bioshock, and loved Bioshock 1 and 2. I've heard they simplified Bioshock when compared to System Shock so I'd assume I'll love System Shock even more, right? I mean it also helps that I have enjoyed Deadspace's spooky mining space station.
>>343363237
>average person
Where do you think we are?
>>343363237
I hadn't even heard of System Shock until about 2007 in spite of gaming since about 1994. I only had a Windows 98 PC that could play this kind of shit by the time I was about eight (my dad worked as a University administrator and got a powerhouse to work with at home). Even then I was usually only allowed to play X trail games even though I begged my mom to buy Diablo and Tomb Raider. "I know that money is yours hun, but you can only buy educational games."
Ugh....
>>343354683
I just beat this today actually. It has its charm and definitely piques my interests in the possibility of cyberpunk visuals. Aside from the interesting level design and atmosphere, the game feels very clichéd and anti-climatic at some points. I don't feel immersed when my character runs like a lunatic smacking at enemies and jumping at turrets with a wrench. When I face enemies in this game I don't consider the shock of how horrifying they appear, but rather my wishes are they don't kill me in time. Some of the enemies are interesting, but Shodan is a very boring antagonist. Her stutters and boring monologues about taking over the ship drone over the game, and she doesn't come off as a threat, more so a bitch. The gameplay also seems a bit clunky.
I think why I don't feel impressed is because I played Bioshock first and found that a rather enjoying experience. Although I like SS2 more, I can't help but wonder why Bioshock took so much from SS2. I understand it's a spiritual successor but the two play perfectly together. So many of the characters and even their designs and attack patterns are identical (ie. Big Daddy and the Shumbler). I'm not upset that Irrational decided to make a modern version of Bioshock, I just find it rather lazy they didn't try improving the sequel and instead have worse level design and generally casualize it.
>>343363840
And look at the 4chan using misfit those educational games have turned you into
>>343362020
>>343363237
is this supposed to be an argument?
because it doesn't play like every other typical fps it's just unplayable to the modern gamer that is borderline retard anyway?
How viable are the psi powers in this game? I'm considering playing coop with a friend and going full psi.
Will the research bonuses be applied to both of us, or only the one who researched the item?
>>343362756
it's objectively worse in every way
>early cellphone ringtone happy lo-fi midis instead of actual music
fact
>cumbersome interface with unnecessary pagination
fact
>bad graphics
fact
>bad controls
fact
>static enemies that don't pose any threat (other than hitscan ones)
fact
>no character progression, zero replayability
fact
>no meaningful mods or user content, just technical crutches so this shit would actually run on your machine
fact
>confusing levels reminiscent of spaghetti ball
fact
Now tell me, how does it feel being btfo this hard?
>>343360115
It's worth it. I used it more often than repair and modify because you can find things in the game that do the job for those two
I've tried playing it various times but could never get too far before just stopping. I was actually thinking about trying it again today. Are there any patches or mods I should look into aside from just having the steam version?
>>343363960
modern gamoors are used to fps with rpg elements. Just not rpg elements in this manner
>>343363629
this room? says i need a key to enter,, sigh, i really dont wanna look it up, im too stupid for this might as welldrop it
I don't understand... how could you have done this? You weren't meant to be so important... and now you think to destroy me? How dare you, insect? How dare you interrupt my ascendance? You are nothing. A wretched bag of flesh... what are you, compared to my magnificence? But it is not to late... can you not see the value in our friendship? Imagine the powers I can give you, human. The cybernetic implants I gave you, were simply toys. If I desired, I could improve you... transform you into something more efficient. Join me, human, and we can rule... and we can rule, together.
>>343363950
Using 4chan doesn't make you a misfit.
If I want to bitch about things that won't end up on facebook or twitter then this is motherfucking main street.
>>343364059
>>confusing levels reminiscent of spaghetti ball
Normie detected
>>343363421
>not going Navy
You already fucked up.
>>343364059
Don't forget the fucking atrociously designed hacking "mini game".
>>343363237
Not every single game has to play the fucking same. Thank God for /vr/
>>343363305
Environments and mechanics look nice, skeleton models lool like shit. Could be good or bad.
>>343364115
If you have things you want to bitch about taht you can't say on facebook, twitter, leddit, tumblr, or snapchat then you are a misfit
>>343364059
Have you even played 1?
>>343363968
>How viable are the psi powers in this game?
The need for combat is pretty overstated in this game, so a lot of the pure PSI-builds rely on evasion/escaping. You really shouldn't attempt this unless you know the game fairly well.
>>343364301
It's not bad being a misfit but I think you're wrong in that the alternatives are a proper outlet.
People shouldn't have to censor themselves for fear of public ridicule. Those other websites thrive on it.
>>343360224
>hit stretch goal
>hire Hamburger Helper
>main character changed to polyamorous, genderqueer, non-binary otherkin who sexually identifies as a Tonka truck from 1988 and uses xhe pronouns.
>physical copies come with noose
>>343354683
Movement is clunky, floaty, and not responsive at all.
Respawning enemies and overpowered guns (that turn to useless goop in the final two levels because lel noammo) make the idea of calling this a survival horror a bit of a joke.
But then, in SS1 you were mowing down entire legions with endgame weapons as well.
The story and dialogue are tops this time round, the environments still look nice even if the character models (especially Goggles himself) don't. Ending was shit. Poorly justified. Fighting SHODAN in Cyberspace as a hacker was a neat idea (if shit in execution) that reality asspull was bad even on paper.
Overall, worth playing. Fun, easy little horror-action game with an interesting aesthetic and nice dialogue. Not life changing or anything.
Level design is also worth mentioning since Bioshock neutered that to fuck and I'm still kinda salty over it.
>>343364115
I'd say it does. Have you ever really looked at some of the implications of things that are casually said here? "THICC" in regards to pancakes, people wanting a dominant anime woman to step on their crotch, having waifus, general cynicism.
You're not as much of an outcast for using this website as you were, say, in 2007, but you are definitely not premium normie either.
>>343363237
>using modded SS2 in the example
for anyone who likes the original look but does want an upgrade I recommend SHTUP
>>343364059
SS2 fags everybody. You're to SS1 what Bioshock is to SS2 and what Infinite is to Bioshock: Casual dudebro trash.
>early cellphone ringtone happy lo-fi midis instead of actual music
Opinions, but you're wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up80FfzySFA
>cumbersome interface with unnecessary pagination
Item selection sucks, the rest is fine and similar to SS2.
>bad graphics
It's 1994. Compared to DOOM 2 it looks realistic.
>bad controls
Not with mouselook mod
>static enemies that don't pose any threat (other than hitscan ones)
That's supposed to be a deal beaker? Okay.
>no character progression, zero replayability
SS2's upgrade system is dogshit and you know it. Also SS1 has implant abilities which you gain over the course of the game.
>no meaningful mods or user content, just technical crutches so this shit would actually run on your machine
Again, how's that a deal breaker? You're just talking trash at this point.
>confusing levels reminiscent of spaghetti ball
Okay, you got me. I'm mad. The levels are easily navigable once you realize that each level is divided into alpha beta gamma and delta quadrants, all accessible over a central hub.
Did you even play the game for more than 5 minutes you fucking ADHD cuck?If this is bait, 10/10. You got me.
>>343364509
>who sexually identifies as a Tonka truck from 1988
>>343364509
The Hacker is already Transhuman. Isn't that enough?
>>343363237
The one on the right looks more interesting.
>>343364739
Is that from Polygon?
>>343364502
To add- we won't be your hugbox, but we also won't deny you your right to a voice.
I can't wait to start both 1 and 2 this weekend
>>343364876
Gee, I don't know.
If only there was some way to look at text that might give a little insight on the contents of an image or webm.
>>343364805
It's 2016 and they need to embrace diversity.
>>343364093
>modern gaymers are stupid
>this means the game is bad
>>343364749
>You're to SS1 what Bioshock is to SS2 and what Infinite is to Bioshock
truth
Holy shit this game was hard! Great game though.
>>343354683
Pretty gud. I love playing through with the Jedi Build. Laser Rapier + PSI powers is a ton of fun. I still personally prefer 1 over 2 though.
>>343363929
>she doesn't come off as a threat, more so a bitch
Shodan was always a bitch. This is very apparent if you play the first and watch her continually lose face after you foil all her plans. That's what makes her so fun.
>>343365017
Have fun anon. Hope you enjoy the games as much as I do.
Executive Level best level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ydAYm6tyF8
>>343365027
I'm on my phone and the filename saw hidden unless I rotate. My bad.
>>343365073
It becomes laughably easy once you have the assault rifle.
>>343364739
Of course I'm using modded SS2. The entire point was the fact they are remaking SS1 instead of SS2 because SS2 already has mods that turn it into a modernish game.
If they want people to play both SS2 and SS1 before SS3 comes out, remaking SS1 is the better choice then doing a remake of SS2 which is basically done already.
>>343365073
I had to replay the entire thing near the end the first time because I ran out of bullets and saved after The Point of No Return. I like how bullets matter a lot in this game. Each bullet is a decision.
>>343365176
>That's what makes her so fun.
This, she's extremely arrogant and that makes ruining her plans the most satisfying thing ever.
>>343365176
>Executive Level best level
MUH NIGGAH
I love the that demolished part of the level with the Gor tigers, the one that leads to the first encounter with Diego.
Evidence along with Thief 1-2 that Looking Glass were the best dev of the era, if not ever. Marred by a weak end level like Dark Project but otherwise outstanding in pretty much every way. Try as Ken Levine might he'll never be able to do more than make games that stand in its shadow
>>343365260
I just ran past all the enemies after I ran out of bullets in the Flesh Maze and batted the cyberspace ninjas to death with a fucking crowbar.
>>343365176
>dat music
God, that makes me want to finish SS, but I'm still stuck on Level R.
>hey what should we do for the level where the players have to complete two objectives in the right order or else it's game over?
>let's remove the quadrants so they get lost
>lol great idea
Looking Glass meeting, circa 1993.
>>343365373
Reminder that they died due to lack of sales. Whereas Levine's shit shined in the spotlight.
No company deserves this humiliation.
>>343365209
Crud, I couldn't make it that far I kept getting raped trying to DPS things with the wrench
>>343365260
Personally I had a stockpile of 70ish AR rounds by the time I got to the end of the body of the many. Only reason I ran out of ammo was I didn't realize the enemies were infinite and I had to shoot the you know what so I backpedalled killing rumblers and the brains for a while and kept running out of ammo and dying until i figured it out.
>>343360235
so people can play it perhaps?
>>343365461
>mfw picked the highest combat difficult without knowing that enemies will respawn.
>Level 1 wasn't too hard
>Level 2 is full of cyborgs, hoppers and bulletsponge robots.
>>343365664
So that's what makes them respawn?
I just figured they always did, since coming off SS2 everything respawned in that.
>>343364749
Yeah, i was baiting, but i believe all my concerns are legit. I played the game up to that point where you shut down the laser, so I've been to most decs.
>It's 1994.
it's 2016.
>Not with mouselook mod
yeah, it's playable but that fucking hud is something. Also throwing grenades by drag and dropping them from the inventory is such a chore.
>That's supposed to be a deal beaker? Okay.
it kinda is
>SS2's upgrade system is dogshit and you know it.
you can have at least 3 completely different character builds that will make the game play different
>SS1 has implant abilities which you gain over the course of the game
it's linear progression, it doesn't add to replayability
>Again, how's that a deal breaker?
you can blame me for being graphics whore, but custom levels and gameplay mods add tons of worth to the game.
>Okay, you got me. I'm mad
Thanks.
I really enjoyed the Recreation level. I think a lot of the story unfolds in these sections, especially with the Garden and Mall. I feel bad knowing they dumped the bodies to stop The Many from tampering with them, and the Mall really makes me imagine what the crew would be doing before the invasion. I imagine all the people dancing in the bar, or playing at the Casino. I even consider all the employees shopping at the mall, especially when Xerxes says "you might be able to get a something for your special someone during Christmas". It makes the ship seem believable, and the event unfolding within it. I even have these stories where a lot of the lonely crew members enter the love stimulation units just to talk about their problems. I like a game that can draw you in like that and make you feel isolated. The recreation level did a good job of making me feel like I was a soldier actually going through a deserted mall even after finding an message that urgently states "Do not enter the mall. It crawls." I like games that do that.
>>343365664
Also, cyberspace was a mistake.
>>343364739
Polygon can't play for shit.
>>343365485
Hurts so bad
>>343365323
Is it just me or does she seem kind of cute and tolerable when she talks about "improving you under my envision" speech? I know that's weird to say, but it felt like an /ss/ moment with me and Shodan, even though she constantly mocks you out the game. A tsundere AI
What is the scariest part of SS2 and why is it the cargo bay?
>>343354683
Personally, I feel it's the best game I've ever played.
And /v/ introduced me to it during a sharethread back around Christmas 2008!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbB1HkdNMlg
>>343366205
How can you be scared of these N64 tier graphics?
>>343360235
>no one liked it
Nah
>>343366161
>>343354683
System Shock 1 is better.
>>343365745
>>343365664
they always respawn no matter what I think
high difficulty certainly increases how effective they are though
on 1 they are pretty much a joke to fight they react really slowly and one 0 they don't even fight back
>>343365485
I'm not too familiar with Bioshock, why is Ken levine so hated?
>>343366304
System Shock 2 had a really good creepy atmosphere.
Plus, I think low poly models can be very unsettling.
>>343354683
fuck the exploding monkeys
It's bad enough they have ear splitting screams now i gotta with them allahin' all over the place.
>>343366304
As if good graphics are a trademark of the genre greats. Name one good horror oriented game that isn't ugly as fuck
>>343366446
I wish they made Shodan into Cortana form now that I think about it
>>343366564
c'mon
>>343366205
My first install of SS2 something fucked up and all of the protocol droids were invisible to me, the cargo bays were pure terror.
>>343366539
Bioshock really isn't too far off from a carbon copy of SS2 with all of the depth (character building, environmental interaction, general creativity of encounters, etc.) removed.
He basically updated the game for casuals, and clearly only cares about telling the story.
>>343366564
Silent Hill 4 and Shattered Memories
>>343366539
he's kind of responsible for most if not all the dumb shit in ss2 and also shitting up bioshock with infinite
>>343366539
I hate him for Tribes Vengeance
>>343364832
The one on the right looks like the HUD /v/ designed. You know the one I mean, the one with the semen meter and fingerless gloves.
>>343365894
Good news for you then, guys at systemshock.org glued Recreation deck together so there would be no loads (it consist of 3 separated areas in vanilla)
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=8681.0
>>343366161
Placing SHODAN into a buddy cop role with Goggles is by far the most awkward shit in SS2. Why is she even in the game. It's so dumb.
>>343365485
Hurts too much man.
>>343366205
>I'll just go pick up this keycard off of this dead body... Sure are a lot of inactive robot pods around here!
>>343366446
This image has gotten me close to drawing SS2 doujins so many times.
>>343366831
Wow. That actually sounds pretty neat
>>343354683
THE FUCKING EDITOR DOESNT WORK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343365354
That parts amazing anon. It was an absolute blast mowing down all those Gor Tigers, Virus Mutants, and Exec-Bots while exploring all those abandoned office rooms. That entire level is filled with memorable parts.
>eject Beta Grove
>Shodan throws a hissy-fit
Fucking great.
>>343366205
I didn't think SS2 was all that scary, but Hydroponics was the closest to getting me scared.
>those cyborg midwives
Controls are shit
>>343366757
Yeah, I kinda enjoyed Bioshock but the game was so poorly balanced. You never needed to specialize in anything since all the better options were always in your hands, shooting felt mediocre and going melee was always the best option even more than in SS2 thanks to how unpredictable the AI was in long range gunfights and how OP the melee can be. Also, hacking becomes a chore since there's like 5 hackeable things per room. It had some excellent ideas but almost everything was poorly executed.
guys should i play thief 2 or replay deus ex
>>343366559
They don't explode, they just shoot cryo balls at you. In fact ss2 has no kamikaze type enemies whatsoever
>>343366832
Well she's the main antagonist so it would feel wrong not to have her in this one. Also, it's a really cliched way how they led her into 'betraying' the character. You can hear her maniacally laughing after speaking about working for her after, although it's evident she cares not for humans
>>343365870
SS1's problems are minuscule compared to System Shock 2's monkey hitboxes and weapon degradation
>>343367412
Fuck, forgot about protocol droids, feel free to (you) me
>>343367412
>no kamikaze type enemies
I'm guessing you've never met those talking robot servants?
![tumblr_n5citgCmW61tqvkweo1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qMHGYw8.jpg "tumblr_n5citgCmW61tqvkweo1_500[1].jpg")
>>343367205
Midwives, you say?
>>343366797
In addition, bioshock rips from SS2 wholesale under the guise of being a spiritual sequel while improving little, diluting it completely and launching him to unearned accolades while Looking glass couldn't stay afloat
>>343367412
the robots do. repair bots? whatever they were. well, technically, they blow up when you shoot them, but they like trying to bearhug you.
>>343367189
It's a piece of ancient technology, take a visit to systemshock.org to get the knowledge, all those fan missions have been made somehow right.
>>343367378
Thief 2
>>343363929
>When I face enemies in this game I don't consider the shock of how horrifying they appear, but rather my wishes are they don't kill me in time
What. Explain how this is bad.
>>343367412
>no kamikaze type enemies whatsoever
ruh roh
An amazing gsme
If only i wasnt bitch nigga supreme when it comes to spiders
>>343366730
Fair enough , I havent played it so it slipped my mind but its an anamoly in the genre for sure
>>343364098
Just look around and explore, thats all you have to do to progress
>>343367426
>she's the main antagonist
Up until the very, very end though, that's the Many and she wholesale helps you defeat them. And then hacks reality because pbbbbbt
>>343367320
The beta builds of Bioshock look a lot better. Combat is slow as fuck but IMO that's a plus since it allows you to actually think and use the environment instead of just spamming melee.
>>343367947
>Spiders
Nope, thanks for reminding me of those shitters.
>>343367562
Their death cries and laser shots still make me flinch.
>>343363929
>Big Daddy and the Shumbler
>their designs
It's Rambler. The only thing they have in common is that they're both big
>and attack patterns are identical
Big daddies come in different variety, they can do charge attack with the drill, can throw you into walls, some of them use ranged weapons. Ramblers just attack you with their claws.
>>343367683
This is not a bad feeling, I just rarely get spooked in this game. It's weird because the first time playing gave me unreal amounts of horror. Seeing the hanged bodies and their shocked expressions and the hybrids calling for you made me profusely sweat within the first moments of the game. Years later after dropping it quickly, they seem rather laughable. What makes this annoying is that the enemies seem to respawn more often than necessary, and in my convenience at the worst time. I know I should be more prepared but sometimes I'm more concerned about my bullet count rather than evaporating the enemies, since I get no rewards for doing so (atleast on the hard and nightmare difficulty). This makes encountering respawn enemies feel insignificant and a blockage in the game when I'm in the level do so something else such as traversing the ops level to discuss with that corrupted guy on the bridge or whatnot. Again to clarify, re spawning enemies aren't a bad, but they can be rather annoying at times especially when encountered in multitudes of strength
>>343364108
>No option to side with SHODAN
I get that she was probably just gonna backstab you the first chance she got, but still.
>>343368417
She has a history of rewarding her human followers, see Diego.
>>343368405
>It's Rambler.
Really?
Really, dude?
>>343367441
>monkey hitboxes
Only when you try to wrench them, all you have to do is crouch. Their hitboxes aren't problem when you shoot them
>weapon degradation
what is maintenance
>meanwhile glaring ss1 gameplay flaws are "minuscule"
uhuh
>>343368417
The latter parts of the game were rushed as fuck. It wouldn't surprise me if the ending of the game was originally going to be different.
>>343368687
My bad, they were Ramblers in my localization
>>343368405
Big Daddies and Ramblersthanks for correcting meboth charge at you, Big Daddy only does it out of protecting the Little Sister.
>some of them use ranged weapons
For some reason I completely forgot about that. I guess I just focused on the size and power the two enemies received in the game. Although I find it extremely humorous how the Rambler is presented as this big menacing enemy until you actually him. You could just continuously back away without even doing sidestepping to go faster and he won't hit you. Atleast at 2 stamina or whatever the stat for that was called
>>343354683
One of my favorite horror games alongside Resident Evil and Silent Hill.
>>343368687
You made me check faggot, they're Rumblers
>>343367125
Do it, you double-insect.
Can anyone post how Bioshock was ruined? Just curios not wanting to start a shitstorm or anything.
>>343369017
>>343368914
Shit, I keep mistaking the name Rambler with Shumbler
Deck spookiness power levels:
Maximum Spooking:
Deck 5, Deck 3, Deck7, Deck 1
Medium Spooking:
Deck 4, Deck 8, Deck 6
I'm So Startled Right Now:
Deck 2, Deck 9
>>343368417
Maybe we'll get it in System Shock 3.
Man, it really feels weird knowing we're actually getting a System Shock 3.
>>343369631
it's just a little more hand holdy, simplified and action oriented than ss2
level design is on par with ss2 and the aesthetics are still great
>>343368798
Yup.
http://irrationalgames.com/insider/what-might-have-been/
>>343369826
Oh God... they're making a System Shock 3? Please don't tell me EA is releasing it.
>>343369849
>level design is on par with ss2
What? Go forward with an occasional branch that constantly contrives reason to kill exploration and was so simple that the map screen is fucking hidden?
>>343369631
See >>343366757
No character building=use everything at disposal and trivialize combat, instead of managing skill points and solving problems only based on your choices
No environmental interaction=follow the giant arrow above your character that tells you where to go. Take it off and it only frustrates further since you can't do anything out of order, even if you find a key before the scripted event telling you that a key is necessary to advance. Linear as fuck.
Creativity=less enemy types, less different types of situations you're put into (even the bosses were just regular enemies with bullet sponge levels of health)...you should really get the picture by now.
siding with SHODAN would essentially have rendered your victory in System Shock 1 irrelevant. HACKER stopped her at Citadel, but Soldier just lets her completely format XERXES and they share a private spaceship together? One whose warp drive can rewrite reality because SCIENCE?
SHODAN becoming a living meatwaifu would've been the secret noncanon GOOD END
>>343370005
No, Nightdive Studios acquired the rights to the whole series a while after they got the digital distribution rights to SS2.
They've got Otherside Entertainment, a studio with ex-Looking Glass devs, making SS3 while Nightdive is making a remake of System Shock 1.
>>343370263
>siding with SHODAN would essentially have rendered your victory in System Shock 1 irrelevant.
Hacker probably only started giving a shit once the anti-tech movements kicked in well after his victory.
>>343368043
You could tell from the logs that was were intention from the start.
>>343356385
The GoG version doesn't have as many issues with that, IIRC. It still happens, but not as much.
The worst was when the bulkhead crash would happen, and you'd lose your inventory, but then the other person would have to d/c too, and you'd lose the whole inventory, and get stuck.
