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Will it be good /v/? Did you back it? Are you nervous after the MN9 fiasco?
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It's literally a DS Castlevania. Whether or not that's worth 5 million is another question.
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>>343316462
I don't back games. I do hope it's good though.
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>>343316835
You aren't the one paying the 5 million dollars so don't worry about it
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>>343316462

It's a lame uninspired nostalgia pandering that is still a step back. It's just IGA cashing in. See, guess who's the copyright holder to Bloodstained and all its characters? Iga and his new company. He's going to build himself a new Konami.

Why does /v/ still confuse producers and directors?
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>>343317062
Given that the GBA and DS games all had different directors yet were very similar games I don't think you really understand who it is that is pushing the style. It was Iga, no matter what his nameplate said.
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>>343317062
Igarashi was a director on SotN, not the producer.
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>>343316462
Yes
No
No
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>>343317220
>yet were very similar games

quality varied all over the place though. Aria and Circle seem to be the best. Order of Ecclessia is the best base game and mechanics, but it has lame level design.
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>>343317062
he copy-righted his intellectual property? What an evil man!
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>>343317441
>quality varied all over the place though.
Not for me ;)
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>>343316462
It's going to be great as long as they keep these titties in the final version.
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>>343317664
I feel they need to recolor the titties
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>>343317606
Pretty solid taste my nigga.
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>>343317664
Those two seriously need to meet.
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>>343317541

More like he gave himself a promotion. As a producer he's just some mid-level manager. As CEO of New-Konami he gets all the Castlevania fans and the endless cash cow. It's Inafune all over again.

Ask ourself: does this game need to exist? It's really derivative of the Metroidvania games. Just the same thing in 3D.
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>>343317961
Games shouldn't exist. You should dedicate your entire life to working and religious pursuits.
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>>343317606

Harmony is just such a mess of a game from top to bottom. You can tell the idea is "make a gba symphony of the night". But all that does is they take backgrounds and enemies from Symphony, and compress them down, and all that does is focus your attention that this is a GBA titel that can't pull off what a PS1 can. Juste is too much like Alucard, and his blue after image is really lame. Gameplay is a mess too.
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>>343317961
>does this game need to exist?
considering so many people wanted him to make it, yes. Its SoTN in modern looks, he doesnt try anything new, and thats fine by me.
you are literally mad at him for doing his job.
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>>343316462
The demo is everything I want in a new Castlevania game, and I completely regret not backing it. My only real complaint is that the demo boss has a lot of color issues, but I'm sure minor details like that will be fixed in the final product, and even then it isn't a big deal in my eyes.

They have to do something drastically stupid like completely removing Miriam's chest to get any sort of negative outcry compared to MN9.
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>>343317062
Would you prefer this?
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>>343316462
>Are you nervous after the MN9 fiasco?
More nervous since this happened. Worried iga is just gonna run off with our money
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>>343316462
is that the weeb DLC for Bloodborne™?
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>>343316462
Yes
Yes
A little, but I jest played it, and it's great
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>>343317606
prototype was a really neat game, I'm surprised I don't see it brought up more often
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>>343318234

Miriam (who is growing on my btw) and the background clash. She's a bright blue anime girl. The backgrounds are bland with washed out colors and no contrast.
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>>343317062
This is fine
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>>343317961
>Ask ourself: does this game need to exist?
I want it to exist
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>>343317062
>that edited saturation on the Bloodstained screenshot

ebin shitpost
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>>343317606
>Xenosaga III
you had to ruin everything
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>>343317961
>Ask ourself: does this game need to exist?
No game needs to exist but I want it to exist.
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>>343317606
>2006
Shit list.
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>>343318182
>Not liking the spooky atmosphere and great area ideas like bone cave, floating chapel and pathway of deplore
>Not realizing most of the sprites are redrawn rather than "compressed down"
>Not dashing through the castle like a madman
>Not enjoying being lost in a confusing as fuck maze
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>>343318468
>waahhhh why doesn't my hivemind treat bloodstained like another tortanic??????
>i didn't even play the demo, i just want another tortanic!!!!
>why can't every game be a tortanic????
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More castlevania please, downloaded the demo game runs fine. a huge throwback to the DS games which is fine by me. and is much better than might no.9 in my opinion.
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>>343318468
Fuck off faggot, Igarashi is still OK in my book.
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>>343318459
>He thinks Xenosaga Episode III is Episode II

What
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>>343318603
WILL IT HIT??
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>>343318468
This is getting more forced than the forced jap Phil Fish meme
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>>343318468
Igarashi is ok, fuck you tortanic faggots
and iga is hot no homo
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>>343318778
it did with blunder 9
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>>343318817
I can see why he no longer makes 30 hour games
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>>343317961
Agreed, this game really needs some innovation. It would be much better if Miriam had to dash into enemies to defeat them.
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>>343318384
Well, it's, presumably, the first level, the boat on the way to the castle. Boats aren't exactly know to be colourful. The concept art ha shown the castle to be a lot more colourful.
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The demo was good. This game will be amazing fuck the shitters. Their opinions are chunks of rock salt, mined by niggers from africa
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>>343316835
>It's literally a DS Castlevania.

So basically it'll be decent at best unless it's PoR tier.
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Is there anywhere to see who is actually working on the game? The staff? Since Konami fired everyone, I'd imagine Iga can make an all-star team of those who worked on Metroidvanaias before.
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>>343317664
>HoD and DoS

Disgusting
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>>343319062
>PoR
>Good
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>>343319062
>por had the best dracula fight but worse everything else
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>>343317606
>2001
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>>343318952
>The concept art ha shown the castle to be a lot more colourful.
>concept art

Because we all know the final product ends up resembling the concept art. Face it, this shit was going to look ugly no matter what once we knew it was going to be a 2.5D game. Worst part is how shit the enemy design is, since they could have at least gotten that much right.
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>>343319147
DoS is a good game. It's only issue is that shitty animu art style but other than that the game is very solid
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>people funding the man who started the decline and death of the series
I will never understand this
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>>343319269
What's wrong with FFX?
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>>343319276
>Worst part is how shit the enemy design is

dude tits lmao
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>>343319307

Other than that and the fucking atrocious touch gimmicks, you mean. And the dopey as fuck dialogue from characters you don't give a fuck about. Oh and the shit bosses.
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>>343319147
I loved Harmony of Despair. It was a blast to play, and it pains me knowing we're never going to ever get another game like it.
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>>343319217
PoR at least had a ton of areas to grind through with that faptastic Mootroidvania CV combat, even if all the rooms were copypasta
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>>343319408
Final Fantasy that popularized the linearity that plagues the series today, a whiny cunt of a mc, a cardboard cut out as main romance interest and not atb. X-2 is a better game than X since it doesn't take itself seriously
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Let's talk Metroidvanias.

>Symphony

Great, big the best. Has the biggest feel and scope.

>Circle

Have a real soft spot for this one. Nice GBA graphics with new sprites.

>Harmony

Mini-Symphony. Tries to look like Symphony on a GBA and copy its art style and game, but doesn't really work. Really hideous game.

>Aria

The best. Everything comes together. Gorgeous 2D graphics and sound which are the best out of the gba games. Fast, fun gameplay. Souls system is great and leads to tons of customization.

>Dawn

I can't explain why but this one bores me to tears. Story is just "here we go again". Tried replaying it and got bored. Feels like such a step down from Aria.

>Portrait

Boring. Feels like a romhack.

>Order

This one feels the most fresh and new. By removing weapons and turning everything into souls, it feels like it's the next step for the mechanics after Aria. The level design is often just corrodoors, which is lame. I might replay this one.
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>>343319580
FF was always linear except the WoR in 6. You were just fooled into not noticing it because muh world map when really there was nowhere else significant to go but the next dungeon to progress the story
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>>343319217
It also had best girl
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>>343319580
>Not playing JRPGs solely for the story
Cuck desu senpai
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>>343319434
>Other than that and the fucking atrocious touch gimmicks
Only touch gimmick I remember is the runes and they weren't bad unless you are a five year old who can't draw lines.

>And the dopey as fuck dialogue from characters
Castlevania never had good dialogue

>Oh and the shit bosses.
Gergoth, Death, Aguni, Puppet master and Demitri were great
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>>343319813
Indeed.
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>>343319434
Julius mode was the best shit ever.
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>>343320186
It would have been perfect if they gave us a Grant.
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>>343319936
>have to kill 100 axe armors to unlock
Fuck that shit
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I did back it, development is looking well enough as to not worry me to think its another MN9 shit
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Shutaro Iida is working on it. He's a programmer who's worked on Aria, Portrait, Dawn, and The Phantom Pain. He's also directed Harmony of Dispair.
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>>343319434
>tfw someone actually didn't like DoS bosses
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>>343319712
>By removing weapons and turning everything into souls, it feels like it's the next step for the mechanics after Aria.

I hate that garbage. I like finding cool weapons within the environment itself, not from farming them and they not end up being particularly interesting weapons anyway.
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>>343319712
you: you have good taste
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Anyone having performance issues with the demo? Feel like I shouldn't be getting 30 fps with a GTX 780.
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>>343321206

You find "weapon souls" in the environment though. It's the same thing.
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>>343320972

This is honestly the only boss that even really stands out in memory to me. And I played this thing not long ago at all.
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The only thing I'm worried about is the music, it's kind of underwhelming and doesn't have a real unique tone, you can obviously hear that it was composed by Michiru, but it's nothing special compared to other Castlevania games.
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>>343320896
HoD was fucking terrible.
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>>343321434

Here are the system requirements for the demo:

OS: Windows 7 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core i5 @ 3.3 GHz or AMD Phenom II X6
Memory: 8 GB RAM
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7790 or Nvidia GeForce GTX650TI (DirectX 11 required)
Storage: 5GB available space
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>>343321461

You find those while casually strolling through the environment because the level design is insanely linear, and they're boring as fuck upgrades over previous weapons rather than feeling distinct or interesting in any way.
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>>343321434
Welcome to Unreal4, anon. Better pucker up your butthole for when actual full environment 3D games come out that use it rather than just 2.5D. Engine overhead creep is real.
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>>343321554

The game has no budget and they probably did their best.
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>>343321241
He just doesn't like the style enough so some of them can actually be done poorly to him. If he really loved the style he would be able to eat literal shit congealed into a model of Dracula's castle
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>>343321554
The game was literally "Reused Assets: The Game" and yet it managed to be incredibly fun.

I don't really understand what you are complaining about.
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>>343321493
Yamane tended to lose her way for DoS after not being on the series for awhile and only revved back up for PoR and OoE so she may need some time to get going
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>>343321905
He's a dudebro that expected a 2D platformer that isn't Mario to have a 40 million dollar AAA budget with 20 different sprite artists working on it full time in 2012
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>Same team as made Mighty Number 9
>/v/ expects different results
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>>343322306
Learn the difference between Comcept and Inti Creates and their roles on Mooty Noomber Noon
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Why is /v/ so desperate for Bloodstained to be another Mighty No. 9?
Why aren't you hoping for the game to be good instead?
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>>343322648
Tortanicucks want another victim for their drama crusade
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>>343322648
Because /v/irgins are stupid and have the worst opinions.
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>>343322648

/v/ got conned by a producer with a tenuous connection to a franchise preying on our nostalgia.

Never again.
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>>343316462
Looks gr8.

Demo was impressive. I backed it, it's the only kikestarter i ever backed and i have no regrets so far.
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>>343322890
>Nostalgia
>For a formula last implemented in 2008 with OoE

I knew /v/ was underage but I didn't realize it was this underage
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>>343322963
>Demo was impressive.

Slow, ugly, easy. Mediocre.
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>>343322098
Does even Mario have a large budget these days? It's not like NSMBU is anything amazing.
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>>343323414
Probably a bunch of unnecessary staff just sitting around doing nothing just because it's Mario and sells like mad no matter what they do
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>>343321749
what did he mean by this?
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>>343323116
>The tutorial section of a game made by a developer known for making easy games was easy
Wow anon, great insight there.
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>>343322890
But Igarashi is actually taking feedback from the people finding the project, showing the current progress and even released a demo.
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>>343323851
>Castlevania
>easy
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>>343323116
>Not backdashing everywhere
Pleb
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>>343324035
Have you ever even fucking played any of the SotN style games Igarashi's team developed? They were incredibly easy, and Bloodstained is a continuation of those, not classic Castlevania.
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>Can abuse potions again

Iga should play the Souls games, as the Estus system is perfect. Limited heals reset via save rooms would work well for the game. You can adjust the amount of heals for how difficult you want the game.
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>>343323414
Unlikely considering how much they tend to reuse assets like the music, models, and artstyle.
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>>343316462
>Will it be good /v/?
I think so.
>Did you back it?
Yeah
>Are you nervous after the MN9 fiasco?
Not really. What's been shown is solid and the backer/E3 demo was fun.
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The beta has me pretty hopeful. Have they shown if you can hop slash to cancel attack animations faster like the other Metroidvanias? The combat speed is my only gripe with what I've seen.
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Guys I just modded my Wii and have never played Castlevania. Where should I start?
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>>343325232
You can cancel attacks by landing or backdashing, and the backdash itself can be cancelled by crouching if you need to stick close to the enemy. It the same system the DS games use.
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Please ignore the pokeball and luigi that thread was hijacked by nintendo manchilds
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>>343324864
Not every game needs to be Dark Souls you faggot.
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>>343325404
Great. I only watched a couple videos and the cunts playing didn't even try that stuff.
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>>343325446
>thread was hijacked by nintendo manchilds
>hijacked
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>>343316462
>Will it be good /v/?
Probably not.

>Did you back it?
No.

>Are you nervous after the MN9 fiasco?
Worst case scenario it'll be mediocre. If it's good, great; there'll be a game worth playing. If it's bad we have something new to laugh at for a week or two.
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>>343325463

Doesn't have to be. But the Estus health system, and equipping items is a really neat system that works well on controllers, and gives healing without the possibility of abusing it.

There's little tension in Iga-vanias since you can just go into a menu, freeze time and heal to max again.
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>>343325676
>There's little tension in Iga-vanias since you can just go into a menu, freeze time and heal to max again.
That's the way we cucks like it. Plus they started limiting us to like 9 potions max starting in like DoS. We cucks weren't happy about that. Don't you know we cucks want to play video games too?
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>>343325676
If it's like every other igavania, there will be a character that doesn't use items.
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>>343325939
>Julius Mode
>no items
>have to melee enemies with you frailest character to regain mp
DoS Julius Mode is one of the best experiences in the whole series, prove me wrong.
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>>343316462
I backed it with $100, I was starting to have my doubts while playing MN9, but the Bloodstained demo reassured me that this game is not going to disappoint.
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>Le nother conman ecks deee!
/v/ is mostly full of shitiots, IGA hasn't done jack shit wrong so far and I highly doubt he will, the demo was fun I played it 3 times, music was pretty good, level design was OK and dat boss design was kinda weird and easy, but dem tiddies.
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>>343326608
>I backed it with $100,

Might I ask why? Crowd sourcing is a total risk.
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>>343316462
>Will it be good /v/?
It seems likely based on the demo.
>Are you nervous after the MN9 fiasco?
Yeah I kind of am.
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So why are people so desperate to shit on Bloodstained again? The demo was perfectly fine, it literally plays exactly like the old games and it already looks 10x better than Mighty No 9
>All the people complaining it was too slow
It's like they never actually played the Castlevania side of Metroidvanias before
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>>343327550
because /v/ will literally find a reason to hate anything
inb4 >le /v/ is a hivemind
its a majority of you faggots that shit talk it.
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>>343327291
I was originally going to just give $60 for a physical copy, but then the Alchemist's Treasure reward really caught my eye.
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I tried the demo, and no I sure as shit am not nervous
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>>343327720
>because /v/ will literally find a reason to hate anything
Wouldn't surprise me.
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