What did they even accomplish in the end?
>>343315669
Swindling waifufaggots money, that's what
They leveled up and became slightly closer to the far more interesting adult characters so it'll seem slightly less ridiculous when they can keep in sequels
They got a robot out of dungeon crawling
The better question iswhere did Crow get his robot and how did he do all the dungeon crawling alone?
>>343315869
What waifufaggotry? All you do is hang out with them and you can hang out with the bros too if you wanted.
This isn't Fire Emblem
>>343315669
Make you feel like you wasted 70 hours of your life playing a Introduction Chapter.
Seriously, I bet Cold Steel II has a little recap at the begining that makes playing the first game completely irrelevant.
I feel cheated.
>>343317291
if you followed the plot at all, you would see that C is fucking strong and can do all by himself, so yeah, he could have braved dungeons alone.
>>343317291
Did he even get his mech from the school's dungeon?
>>343317445
Not that faggot, but Cold Steel really leans towards waifuism, even if you can just choose to be close to your bros instead.
>>343317565
It does, right on the main menu:
https://youtu.be/yqdyKAur0ps?t=5m13s
>>343317616
Dude, have you even follow what any character has said?The Divine Knights are scattered all over the Kingdoms
Pay attention to Gaius' chapter, Nord Highlands, after finishing the game, the legends around that place will be clear
>>343317814
Then fuck me, why did I even play it.
The stuff you carry to Cold Steel II with your save is completely useless.
>Sepith
Can just make more
>Attack 1 Orb
Literally shit you get on the first hour
>Relationship values
Can just do it again.
>>343317691
Because of one scene where you dance with them?
Thats literally the only waifu pandering in the game and that's at the end.
>>343318050
Why waste time rebuilding bonding points when there's going to be new characters to bond with?
Laura better still be the best girl.
>>343318364
What if I don't want to bond with the new characters?
>>343318050
I'm assuming the finer details and first hand experience of the story will allow you to appreciate CS2 more. I mean, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed SC as much as I did if all I got was a few paragraphs explaining the basic plot. Not an entirely apt comparison since FC did a much better job at setting up a foundation and plot arc than CS1 did, but at least you don't have to quickly become acquainted with about a dozen literally who's.
>The Garilla Fortress trip was to show Class VII the sheer dominating power of weapons, how people can nothing against them.
>The end shows the Instructors being strong enough to take on Mechs, who can turn the supposed "humanly impossible take on" weapons in scrap metal.
Top kek.
So is this going to be a trilogy or the 2nd game is the final game?
>>343319393
trilogy
>>343319513
Fuck, Is there a single Legend of Heroes that isn't divided in 3 games?
>>343316028
I am the bone of my sword?
>>343319679
UBW was the first thing that popped in my mind when the Not-Final Boss popped up.
>>343319665
The Crossbell Arc (Zero & Ao)
And to be fair, so is Liberl. FC & SC tell a complete plot while The 3rd is more like an extra story that acts as setup for the rest of the series.
Erebonia is the first time they've needed three games to tell a single plot arc.
>>343320149
Well then, not invest time in New Game+ reruns, no point in my opinion.
>>343320578
Yeah, I see your point.
They achieved the power ofboop
>>343315669
Did they fuck at the end?
>>343320775
Why is _NEP_ of all people best girl?
>>343316028
Class VII's movesets are so broken, I don't find them being able to catch up that weird at all.
>>343320858
Crow and Rean? Yeah.
>>343320858
First game out of three you silly.
You can only go as far as dacing.
>>343320931
She is trash, completely useless as a party member.
>mfw the start of Ch 2
Yes, Machias, I lied to you about my parentage because you spent the whole prologue bitching everyone out about nobility, don't make me out to be the asshole here.
>>343320775
>Not Towa boop
Fuck right off.
My favorite loadout.
Falcon Quartz, load up with evade equipment and quartz. Save one slot for a wrath quartz (always critical when doing counters). Then just rush at the enemy. Almost always dodge and counter attack right away.
>>343321928
Rean told a half-truth for no reason.
>>343321486
She's alright. Decent health and fairly strong attacks.
>>343320858
Like animals
>>343322403
>Rean told a half-truth for no reason.
It wasn't for no reason. Machias was showing extreme hostility to anyone nobility. He's sure to not cooperate if you reveal that you're a noble...
>>343322403
>for no reason
I'm sorry, but who the fuck wants to risk dealing with this shit while going to school away from home. Even the other commoners in the class felt uncomfortable around him.
>>343322418
Like Laura, except less boosts and critical percentage.
Useless beyond breaking doors.
>>343322585
Rean could've told he was adopted and problems wouldn't arise, Machias himself is a rich boy that is what he is due his father gaining position out of his own efforts.
How can one be a commoner and yet richer than every single noble in the world?
>>343322923
((Reinhart))
>>343322675
>Even the other commoners in the class felt uncomfortable around him.
Huh? Only Machias was hostile and Elliot felt unconfortable.
Gaius wasn't born around their society so he didn't care, no Alisa, nor Fie, nor Emma who is just polite to everyone.
>>343322870
>Rean could've told he was adopted and problems wouldn't arise
And at that point in time... Machias hasn't learned that there are decent nobles... he still lumps every single noble into his narrow minded view that they are all horrible people.
>>343322923
Why was her mom such a bitch?
>>343322923
by being realistic?
After the French Revolution, the previous stinky merchants were just as rich, if not richer, than any noble.
>>343322585
You are going to be stuck with him for a year.
Lying to his face about something he (rightfully or wrongfully) feels strongly about is a fucking awful first impression.
He has a decent reason for being suspicious of noble families even though he should probably have kept it to himself more often.
>>343315869
But this is the least waifufaggotry JRPG you can get these days pretty much. Loved the game for not just being a bunch of girls in lewd situations with epic memes + boring gameplay that /v/ praises because it doesn't flat out suck.
>>343323153
Her way of dealing with grief
>>343323153
Because the business world crushes people of goodwill.
Anyway, Irina just got broken her husband died.
Seriously, too many dead parents as a plot ticket on Class VII.
>>343323258
>You are going to be stuck with him for a year.
Then he can go fuck himself and learn it later than being such a little whiny bitch about it right now when everyone else is trying hard to work together.
>>343323153
She's forced to pander to the warmongering Nobles because they're Reinford's biggest customer
>>343323153
Because she's insanely busy (and still failing) trying to keep her trainwreck of a company from imploding and taking out the country with it.
>>343323301
he just threw a ignorant bait and you have bitten
>>343318050
Why even play the second game if you didn't like the first?
>>343323153
She's cold but you can also actually see that she cares about her own daughter in her own way.
>>343323258
Rean was a teen that was put on the spot and probably a bit tired from fighting monsters on such short notice, he just defaulted to whatever could keep things cordial at that moment. And he eventually wanted to tell everyone the truth on his own after the first field trip, meanwhile, Mach embarrassed the shit out of his group by arguing with Jusis over and over again. He was a rude douche, and it wasn't the least bit fair to give Rean shit over not initially feeling comfortable around him.
I'm vastly disappointed that the concert has no actual songs.
>>343318050
It's slightly more than that.
>Rank A1: Silver Medal accessory (HP+500, EP+50)
>Rank A0: Golden Medal accessory (can't be obtained otherwise, HP+1000, EP+100, STR, DEF, ATS and ADF+10)
>Rean's level is 69 or lower: 100 of each sepith except mass, Attack 1, Zeram Powder
>Rean's level is 70-79: 300 of each sepith except mass, Attack 1, Soul Blur, Zeram Powder
>Rean's level is 80 or higher: 500 of each sepith except mass, Attack 1, Soul Blur, Saintly Force, Zeram Powder x2
>Relationship values
>Can just do it again
But the waifu you chose to dance with affects some scenes.
>>343323506
I did like it, I just feel it dragged for too long for what basically was an introduction chapter.
Look at the Dot Hack games, each game in the trilogy was 35 hours max; three games would amount to 100 hours more or less; Cold Steel alone is 65 hours.
>>343323940
>IIIIIIIIII SWEAR
>>343323940
>I vow to use this power as your sword in <<Class VII>>
what does she mean by this?
>>343324178
oops meant for >>343324008
>>343324023
Those dot hack games aren't worth full price for each one. They were 60 bucks each... for like 15 hours each game.
>>343324115
>not actually Emma's VA singing I Swear
Haqua singing would redeem this game tbqh
>>343324178
By default she says she takes up her sword as a member of Class VII, if you chose to dance with her at the end of CS1 instead she says that she is your sword.
>>343324023
Are you saying you had something better to do than playing it?
I sure didn't, I wish I had an unplayed game right now that was at least that fun.
Sara is the hottest girl in the game.
>>343324550
>>343324550
but that would be Mint.
>>343324550
She was so fucking hot yet I hated her so much. I hated her personality... but those tits, hips and ass were too much.
>>343324550
>>343324710
She's an irresponsible alcoholic
>>343324537
>Are you saying you had something better to do than playing it?
Well, I do have quite the backlog, games in which I even haven't removed the plastic wrap yet.
>>343325035
The best.
>>343325035
That and she nags about Thomas, why deslike him.
Thomas is the most based Intructor.
>>343325051
Get off /v/ then. This place is poison for starting new games. You could be playing something cool right now.
Has the third game's platform been announced? I just hope I don't have to buy a system for it eventually.
>>343325465
Might be Vita and PS4.
Japan is slowly dropping the Vita+PS3 combo.
>>343325465
No. I'm expecting it to at least have a Vita version
>>343325465
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-iii-announced
>>343325687
Yeah pretty much, I dunno why he is worried, the Cold Steel games have the Vita versions as the basis, the PS3 versions were ports with faster loading times.
>>343319679
>>343319886
Weapon Graveyard. It's been several time before.
>>343324482
muh sword for Class VII as opposed to muh sword 4u? This Saber expy sure is boring
>>343322585
And yet Michias has no problem with Laura who was fully truthful right from he begining and didn't showcase common noble asswhole attitude.
So yes Rean told a half-truth for no reason. All he had to say was, I'm the adopted son of so and so. Give me a chance and I'll show you im not a noble asshole. That's it.
>>343327945
didn't Machias spilled his spagetti because Laura is a girl?
>>343323441
Meanwhile Jusis is showcasing the arrogant noble archtype to a fault in front of everyone and tells Rean/everyone to fuck off for a while.
You obviously didn't play the game.
>>343325035
Man up and give her a reason not to drink all the time.
>>343328394
>>343328508
ching chong
>>343328073
No, he just backed off cause she was honest right at the start and did nothing to provoke him.
If you played the game, remember Michias had a female cousin he was close with. So "durrr female" isn't a problem for him. Not to mention he goes right into a rivialry with Emma for school grades.
>>343328508
So much work for just a peck on the cheek. Knowing her personallity she should of given him a deep french kiss.
Maybe part 3 will get some more. One can hope.
>>343329152
Rean's not getting beyond first base unless he grows a manly beardlike his dad
>>343329294
You're implying that the Mean Rean Machine, Katana user, edgemaster super sayjin, Knight Rider, and orbal bike owner can't grow a manly beard?
Is this game harem-y at all?
>>343330050
no canon romance, you can romance all the girls but they don't affect the main story outcome at all, like Persona 4
>>343330050
only during the school festival in the last chapter
>>343330050
There's no real romance at all in the first game. Other than the dance scene the girls treat you as a friend. Alisa tends to get pissy everytime something remotely sexual gets brought up (on noes! looking at girls in swimsuits!)
Otherwise pick your waifu and wait a few games for full relationship development.
>>343330050
Yes, you can impregnate your little sister if you want but you have to take responsibility
>>343330985
Elise is an actual playable character in Cold Steel II and part of the following batch of characters whom you can make Rean get close to.
>>343329830
Well, exactly because all that he can't grow a beard.
Have you ever seen any of these types having any facial hair?
>>343330985
>impregnate your little sister
Sign me up!
Playing zero now.
>>343328394
but she is into older men.
how are the psp versions of tits?
i want to play something on the go on my vita
>>343330985
The drama CDs even have Elise's (and Rean's) parent agree that Rean should fuck the bitchiness out of Elise and marry her afterwards.
>>343332347
Why does this series love fake incest so much?
>>343332316
Basically the same, just with smaller resolution.
The actual different versions are the "Evolution" releases being made for Vita only in Japan, full voice acting being one of the additions.
>>343332592
Because it's fun.
>>343332592
Because you can write it without raising too many eyebrows.
>>343332737
i remember somebody saying something about the english translation having problems in the psp version that's why i was asking
>>343330246
>>343330851
>>343330867
So all the women don't fawn over the main character for no inexplicable reason?
>>343332860
No, it's a sin, you filthy little sinner.
>>343322923
Pretty realistic. Many merchants became so rich the bought all the land from underneath the nobility.
>>343333380
No, think of Persona 4, the girls only show romantic affection towards Yu in their Social Links, while in the main game proper they see him as a great friend and leader.
>>343327945
You don't make an ass out of yourself in front of a group of people and then get mad when that causes one of them to be a bit cautious around you for a little while. Laura's interaction with Machias is irrelevant, Rean probably thought he didn't give her shit because she was a woman.
>>343332592
why do the japanese love fake incest so much
kana little sister pissed me off with that shitty cop out
>>343333558
Great, thanks.
The school setting had be a bit worried. I really enjoyed Estelle and Joshua's relationship in FC.
>>343334380
It allows you to depict incest without catching flak for it. 3D porn is currently doing the same thing with that step[family member] shit.
This plan rarely works, because after a while, people start to wonder why you keep writing "b-but they totally aren't related!" over and over again.
>>343334380
That doesn't undermine the relationship that much, only if you are that much of a degenerate that based your whole preference on that couple if they were blood related.
>>343334731
>This plan rarely works
What are you talking about, it work wonders since they just keep doing it.
>>343334380
Faggot law, only doujin and stuff can have real incest now.
>>343335102
Incest should be ok as long as you don't make a child
Sara > Laura > Emma > Fie > Alisa > Shit > Millium
>>343327945
Michias was one wrong character arc away from going full class shooting
>>343334191
Honestly is the best policy. Jusis was an ass right up front, proving Machias' right. Laura wasn't, so he didn't bitch at her, meaning her interation WAS relevant. Rean made a mistake and paid for it.
Besides Machias came right back to rean/gaius/elliot and appoligized for his outburst. Rean should of been upfront.
It's pretty simple to understand. If you can't be honest and upfront with someone, despite their prejudice, then you have just as big of a problem being afraid of offending them.
What format does CSII follow? Given howfucked Erebonia was at the end of the first game with the new civil war I imagine the school setting is right out. And how does Valimar factor into it?
>>343337476
>Honestly is the best policy. Jusis was an ass right up front
Bull fucking shit.
Mathias was the one who started shit first. All Jusis did was troll the fucker and was nothing but perfectly civil with Emma, Eliot and Gaius. The only one he was an ass to was Machias and that was because Machias was an ass to him.
>>343315669
They saved the school festival
>>343334731
Seriously don't care if it's "not blood related" or not. Family is fuckign each other. It's hot enough.
>>343337657
This.The only person in the class that was legitimately upset over being in a mixed class was Machias himself. Everyone else was just a bit confused and Jusis made no reaction until Machias decided to recite his "Fuck da Upper class" mantra right then and there. People react to overly confrontational motherfuckers in different ways, I don't blame Rean for not being immediately forthcoming, he was already changing his mind by the time Mach found out himself anyways.
>>343337476
>Laura wasn't, so he didn't bitch at her,
Honestly I think he just knew how badly she could splatter him if he got uppity
>>343337313
Whoa there, dude just carries a shotgun around, he wouldn't go full Columbine.
He wanted to humiliate the nobles through exam grades and chess.
>>343338454
>Shot gun
>Emotional kettle
>Hates the upper class
>Shows too much interest in a school for nobility
nah. dudes nuts
>>343337554
-Indeed classes are out, they just travel out their own accord to end this war.
-Valimar means Mech Battles and fights against bigger bosses.
>>343337657
And all Jusis had to do was PROVE HIM WRONG. But he didn't. Trolling Machias was proving him right. He pulled the typical noble trope right off the bat. Jusis also could of stayed behind and tried to be a party member at the start. He didn't. You activaly have to choose him over Michias and even then it's only for the starting dungeon since Jusis gives everyone the cold shoulder after.
Mathias might of made a sweeping annoucnment but Jusis could of been the better and ignore his hatred. Laura did, and showed Machias that she wouldn't take his prejudice because she wasn't like the nobles he hated.
They accomplished making a shitty game with amerifat dubbing, and they'll do it again.
>>343338695
Neat.
>>343338917
Laura's dub voice is sexy as fuck, sue me
>>343338816
>And all Jusis had to do was PROVE HIM WRONG
Which he did just fine by treating the other commoners in your class kindly.
Jusis doesn't owe Machias shit. If Machias is going to go sperg on Jusis then it's his own damn fault when he catches shit.
I hope they sort out better what dialogues are voiced and what are not in Cold Steel II.
If my memory serves right only Machias has him telling his baground story, the ones with artpieces in sepia tone, with voice acting; that's not fine.
>>343335898
>tfw you think Alisa is best girl
>tfw nobody else likes her
>>343338374
I really don't think that would of mattered. She might of personally splatted him but been just a petty as his prejudice to do so. And ruined their chances at beating the trial.
Prove your the exception to the stereotype and you don't get treated like it.
>>343338917
Millium aside everyone else was decent.
>>343338917
I unironically like the dub. There are some mediocre casts, but alot of the characters have VA's that genuinely loved doing their lines.
>>343335898
>Emma
>The fake slut who is polite to everyone but never open her secrets throughout the whole first game, despite she hearing everyone else's background.
>Above anyone else.
If I wanted big fat tits, I would just fawn over Sara.
>>343339174
I choose her as well, her tsundere traits aren't nearly as annoying as other examples.
So many unromancable good girls
>>343339157
Thank you Millium.
Then they go and deliver the longest dungeon out of the whole game, I hope you are happy you little shit.
>>343339464
>>343339369
>>343339060
The rest of the world would prefer the original dub desu senpai.
I still don't understand how you amerifat burger eating diabetes carriers can handle these dubs, it almost as if you like suffering.
Some men dubbing are fine, but every women dubbing anime or anime games sound cringeworthy, like they are embarassed of what they're saying.
>>343338641
>Shot gun
Several bracers and the army on both sides use guns of all sorts
>Emotional kettle
yes
>Hates the upper class
lots of the upper class and lower class hate each other. It's not a rare problem if you paid attention.
>Shows too much interest in a school for nobility
Except it's not. It's simply the best military academy. If you didn't notice, the common classes still outnumber the noble classes. not to metnion several of the instructors are commoners as well.
>>343339614
>her tsundere traits aren't nearly as annoying as other examples.
It's less her tsundereness that puts people off and more her generally uselessness combined with her whiny mom issues and the way they cram her down our throats so much often at the expense of other characters.
She totally just stole Gaius's chapter. And he needed it
>>343339124
>Which he did just fine by treating the other commoners in your class kindly.
Uhh no he didn't. Did you play the game? He's gives everyone in the class the cold shoulder and flat out tells rean to leave him alone. IF you go pay attetnion to the horse club when he joins he's a total snark to the commoner girl for half the game untill he gets his character development.
HE doesn't owe Machias shit true, but it gives him no right to be a jackass just cause Mashias was vocal in his dislikes. Doesn't give him the right to be a jerk to anyone, but yet he is at the start of the game.
>>343338816
>And all Jusis had to do was PROVE HIM WRONG
Jusis isn't the god-emperor of the nobles. It's not his job to make some random douchebag yelling at him have some after-school special style epiphany. He was respectful enough to everyone else in class, the only dude he had a problem with was the guy that felt the need to turn every conversation into a noisy forum on the state of the bourgeois. Machias was acting entitled as fuck and he got two bad reactions out of it. He's lucky Rean didn't embarrass his ass over the Group B debacle when he started going off about the "lie".
>>343339654
Meanwhile Patrick is fully voiced.
Seriously, why? Is he someone who will become in the sequels?
>>343339060
>Laura
You mean Tsubasa right
>>343339883
I got highly annoyed at the stupid grudge she held at the start of the game. Condicering she landed on Rean. Then there's the fact that everytime there is any sort of eye candy like a better looking woman, the school swimsuits or crow makes sex joke at rean's expence, she gets pissy.
And the fact she will never shutups about the concert costumes. It's just the constant little petty jealous hate she has that kills her likeability.
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How's the TitS psp translation compared to the PC version
>>343340147
>You mean Tsubasa right
JOZAI SENJO!
>>343340083
And yet he could of acted like the better person. Ignored Machia's outburst, said nothing, acted civil at the least.
He did not. He acted like an arrogant ass and prove Michais dislikes correct.
Don't understand why this is so hard to understand.; Don't act like an ass, don't prove yourself a part of the stereotype and you don't get treated like it.
>>343340318
The other times she gets pissy after they sorted out what happened in the begining is clearly Alisa being jealous.
I don't recall a single time where Rean paid for Crow's jokes and insinuations.
>>343340398
>fanzine
does she mean doujin?
>>343340745
and Machias could have been a not shitty human being to start with.
It's not his job to teach Machias that not all nobles are bad people. He's not his fucking dad. Why should he care at all what some dick in glasses thinks?
>>343340117
He has the hots for Rean's sister. So he'll be her backup sutor if you have Rean go after anyone else.
Also his whole character developmet of getting ticked over the new mostly commer class kicking rthe noble class's ass and then becomming abetter person.
>>343340558
replace shiro with laura
>>343340318
She's basically a generic anime tsundere
>>343340745
>don't prove yourself a part of the stereotype
Did you read my post? Jusis didn't treat any of the other commoners in the class badly, his beef with Machias was personal. Just because Machias decided to ignore all that to continue on his soapbox crusade doesn't make the way he bitched Rean out okay. Everything was perfectly fine until he decided to become the aggressor.
>>343340860
Yeah, although fanzine indeed is the westen term for it, mostly forgotten by now, you would hear it more often in the nineties.
Elize's existence pisses me off. She contributes literaly nothing to the development of the main story and is just there as the token non-blood related imouto that wants your dick with no build up.
>>343341092
no bully
>Want to do a NG+ so I can get the relationship values as well as getting my Rean above lvl69
>No option to skip cutscenes
Fuck it. I guess Fie's my chosen partner and I'm only getting the bare essentials.
>>343340918
>shitty human
Machias wasn't. He just had a prejudice. It's aperfectly normal thing to have. You obviously have a prejudice. Lots of people have it. Not everyone can be the Mean Rean Machine who is friendships and bonds super great guy!
Again, if Jusis was the actually better person he could of acted like it. Just like Laura didn't give Machias any attirtude, Jusis should of done the same. Stop defending a petty asshole and realize that both were in the wroing. Machias has a prejudice, Jusis acted just like what he hated.
>>343341296
She is playable in Cold Steel II.
>>343341371
>No option to skip cutscenes
One of the things that pissed me off the most in the game, easily.
>>343340949
This would be funny if you idiots would realize the whole "muh sword" trope existed long before FSN
>>343341410
You're the one whose dead set on sucking Machias's cock. Yeah Jusis was a troll and a dick but all he did was retort to someone looking for trouble.
None of this would have happened AT ALL if not for Machias.
>>343341371
What are the actual benefits of choosing a partnered character? I'm only on chapter 2 and so far Emma, Towa, and Fie are too cutie patootie to choose
>>343341574
A special cutscene with your chosen partner in II.
That's it.
>>343341485
>>No option to skip cutscenes
>One of the things that pissed me off the most in the game, easily.
Hold Circle. I think it's circle. You CAN fast forward cutscenes
>>343341485
and then she and Alfin literaly becomes the damsels in distress to fuel MC's motivation to git stronk and save his friends
>>343341410
Being hesitant in trusting needlessly aggressive assholes is perfectly normal reaction, too
>>343338917
Play the game with voices turned off. Felt just like TitS.
>>343341371
FWIW, NG+ took me about 20+ hours for max AP, etc. and O button fast-forwards dialogue
>>343341658
Wow, this works. It's not that fast and still not as good as skipping whole scenes.
Is this explained anywhere?
>>343341572
I'm just defending him cause you are being an idiot and faulting the guy for having an outburst he came back and apoligized for.
Again, honesty is the best policy as Laura showed. If someone makes scene you don't act like an idiot in return and antagonize them. How fucking hard is this to understand?
So what are your expectations for Sen 3?
>>343341863
>Is this explained anywhere?
I found it out after mashing buttons when one of the bosses was completely walling my progress, it truly must have been how the devs intended it.
>>343341837
>>343341658
Holy shit
Holding Circle is so strange. At least Persona 4 Golden sped up as soon as you tapped R.
Alisa is cute! CUTE!
>>343341863
Don't think so, but other Trails games and RPGs have similar hold blah to FF dialogue so you could just experiment
>>343341696
While I agree, you don't just lash right back out at them either. And as I've pointed out, Machias came back and apoligized for his outburst to Rean/Gaius/Elliot as well as was cooler around Emma/Alisa/Laura when they ran into the girls.
It's like people in here never played the game and paid attetnion to the story, which is what kiseki games are all about.
>>343342180
Hopefully you can bang her mom in Sen III
>>343342062
>Again, honesty is the best policy as Laura showed.
No, not being a cunt is the best policy.
Rean saw Machias flip his shit on Jusis and din't want to deal with it. You're ignoring one very huge difference between Rean and Laura. LAURA DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK.
Rean's a far more self conscious person.
>>343342069
For the end to actually mean something, like every single adult expects 11 teens to become people who will change their Kingdom.
>>343342305
>Machias came back and apoligized for his outburst to Rean/Gaius/Elliot
But not Jusis. Machias is the instigator, it's on him to fix it. Jusis has no business trying to friendly to a guy who obviously doesn't want to be friends with him.
>>343342180
She's pretty gud
>>343342069
Ouroboros wins again
>>343342069
Post credits scene is the staff holding up a sign saying "we promise the Calvard arc will be better"
>>343342331
>wanting workaholic used goods in grief.
Talk about setting up your own failure.
>>343342423
Rean lied and paid for it later when all he had to do was admit he was the adompted son and to give him a chance before Machias judged him. Rean didn't lash out at Machias over his outburst either, so in civil mode Maichas likely would of just dealt with it.
And yes, Laura did not give a fuck because she wasn't an asshole. Her family was known for being decent nobles, she acted like one herself. Pretty fucking easy to understand that she acted honestly and didn't give him a reason to lash out at her.
>>343315669
A sequel?
>>343343094
>and to give him a chance before Machias judged him
>Man nobles sure do suck. fucking nobles.
>hey Rean where are you from. boy do nobles suck.
>.....
Rean did nothing wrong.
>>343342550
>Jusis has no business trying to friendly to a guy who obviously doesn't want to be friends with him.
He had no business being an ass to Machias as well. And yet he just threw fuel on the fire. All Jusis had to do was keep his mouth shut and at the very least be civil like Laura was. If everyone had ignored Machias's prejeduce then it wouldn't of even been part of his character development.
>>343343218
Seriously
Who plays Legend of Heroes games and doesn't expect the ending to be a cliffhanger.
>>343343356
You can't even ignore people shitting on Machias why would Jusis be able to ignore Machias shitting all over his family.
yeah he threw fuel on the fire but that fire wouldn't be there at all if not for Machias.
>>343343419
They don't usually expect for the majority of the first game be literally a collection of build ups.
>>343342876
Honestly i would prefer a sequel to Ao, Calvard would be nice too i guess
>>343343312
>hey rean where are you from
>uhh i don't have a noble blood in my body
If he did nothing wrong and didn't half-lie then there would of been no problems. Even Rean realized he should of been upfront about his parents at first.
>>343343419
I don't think I was expecting THAT big a cliffhanger. Like maybe Id have guessed we'd get a post credits of larger groups moving behind the scenes and shit heating up politically.
I wasn't expecting sudden Cybuster and then the hero running away
>>343343706
How about a localization instead
>>343343740
>Ignoring this was literally not 5 minutes after he throws a tantrum about classism
Rean only felt he had to lie because Machias was a raging cunt. Why are you so dead set on defending him?
![DSC_0001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M8NQEza.jpg "DSC_0001[1].jpg")
Alright listen up queers. I bought LoH:ToCS about a month ago because /v/ said it was like P4G. Well, it ain't, so I'm giving the fucking game to the first person post their PSV with a timestamp note next it to. Post some shitty email too if you want it so you can tell me the details. Merikafags only.
>>343343871
Sure in Winter2020
>>343342069
Crossbell cast kicking Rean's ass. There can be no peace, Erebonians must burn
>>343343987
THE PC PORT ALREADY EXISTS, JUST TRANSLATE IT GOD FUCK SHIT
>>343343740
Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but at the time it was is first day of school at military academy, doing a dungeon run as his first assignment, the last thing he wanted to do was risk catching any unnecessary shit from his party members. It was a heat of the moment choice brought on by perceived peer pressure. If Machias actually thought for more than a minute as to why Rean would have done that it would've been clear. But if Machias was capable of that kind of perspective, he would've never started that whole shitstorm in the first place.
So /v/, what are you prepared to do in order to understand what the Society of Ouroboros is up to?
Are you prepared to sacrifice being a hero in order to hunt the truth?
>>343343894
Because it's called cause and effect. Michais blew up, went off, realized he did wrong and came back to apoligize.
Rean could of been fully honest and made sure he caused no problems later. He made mistake and paid for it.
It's that simple. If you played the game and paid attention to the story it should be clear that it's a bunch of teenagers all with problems and the point of the game is seeing them work through those problems.
>>343344150
They can't until Falcom does a JP build of AoPC
This is what I think is going to end up happening anyways but it'll be a while.
>>343344537
>Because it's called cause and effect. Michais blew up, went off, realized he did wrong and came back to apoligize.
He also could have realized that Rean only lied because he didn't want to deal with another shit storm.
As you put it cause and effect.
>>343344537
Machias does not apologize to his blow up with Jusis until the end of Chapter 2.
>>343344206
>But if Machias was capable of that kind of perspective, he would've never started that whole shitstorm in the first place.
Teenager who is the son of a high ranked offical put in a high preasure situation has an outburst. Oh my. Never happens ever. And of course we'll just ignore the fact he came back and apoligized. Means nothing right? Clearly no prespective.
I mean dear fucking god. Yeah the guy acted wrong and had a major outburst but what the fuck do you want, everyone to be super happy get along at the very start?
>>343343963
Ill take it if you really dont like the game
>>343344926
>Teenager who is the son of a high ranked offical put in a high preasure situation has an outburst. Oh my. Never happens eve
>Other teenagers call him out on his shit or try to avoid it
OH MY NEVER HAPPENS EVER
>>343344214
Ouroboros just wants to recover the Septerrions for the betterment of mankind. They didn't do anything wrong unlike the warmongering nobles and Osborne for annexing independent states who also didn't do anything wrong like Crossbell.
>>343344979
>>343343963
>Gayman laptop
You should really just try the game again before you give it to this subhuman
>>343344979sent :)
>>343344926
>but what the fuck do you want
Understand why someone would be too nervous to tell the truth rather than bitch him out over it? Machias is abrasive as hell and everybody fucking called his beef with Jusis causing trouble for Group B during the first field trip (Gaius claims they almost came to blows with each other, even), so it's not like Rean was completely completely unjustified in doing what he did. He was a fish out of water that panicked. If it wasn't for Patrick opening his big mouth, Rean was going to open up soon to Machias anyways. When you make a shit first impression it can take time for some people to feel comfortable around you. This isn't rocket science.
>>343344724
>He also could have realized that Rean only lied because he didn't want to deal with another shit storm.
And Rean should of not lied int he first place and handled it better.
>>343344798
That would be because Jusis continues to atogonize him untill mid chapter 2.
>>343345205
Yeah I know, it's a shame too because the retard doesn't even have a slim PSV. What a buffoon.
>>343345104
>Guy A does somethign wrong first
>Guy B does somethign wrong later
>Only hate Guy A forever and ignore all the dumb shit Guy B does which is just as bad
Gee guys Guy B is so great durrrr.
>>343345475
>And Rean should of not lied int he first place and handled it better.
He shouldn't have felt he had to in the first place.
It's like a german officer asking people where the jews at? He's not going to be eager to wave his hands shouting me.
This was completely on Machais and he has no business holding a grudge because he made Rean uncomfortable.
>>343345563
>slim PSV
but fat PSV has better screen
>>343345563
Vita slim subhumans are almost as bad as gayman laptop subhumans.
>>343319010
The mecha are for skirmishes. The Rail cannons are for mass destruction. Two very different things.
>>343345450
>Understand why someone would be too nervous to tell the truth rather than bitch him out over it?
Yes is was fully understandable why Rean did that. But it's also understandable that REAN choose to do that and caused his own problem because of it. I keep pointing at Laura because she was honest and didn't act like an ass. She gave Machias no reason to lash out at her.
Saying Rean is perfectly innocent, when even Rean himself thought he made a mistake with the half-lie, is stupid.
Granted Rean isn't the bigger problem but when you give someone a reason to hate you, you really shouldn't be surprised when they do.
>>343345695
>>343345815
fat vita owners are literally worse than nintendrones.
>>343346040
and like I said, Rean is far more self conscious than Laura. Laura lives by her own code for her own values and her own self.
She doesn't care how people see her in the slightest because as long as lives to her own code she's content. Rean doesn't have that kind of resolve.
And Machias is still constantly shitting on her entire social class. Machias is the one who stirred the pot and made everyone uncomfortable. He knew Thor's was a mixed school and did nothing but start shit.
>>343346040
>when you give someone a reason to hate you, you really shouldn't be surprised when they do.
That goes to fucking Machias too. Rean would not have felt the need to lie to him if not for the way he was acting. It's simply a consequence of him feeling the need to soapbox about class the minute he found out what VII's set up is. For someone who puts on the airs as this defender of the downtrodden commoners he was certainly acted entitled as fuck about Rean's personal opinion of him.
>>343345682
>This was completely on Machais and he has no business holding a grudge because he made Rean uncomfortable.
I'll keep pointing at Laura. She said upfront who she was and didn't act nasty when backgrounds were brought up.
Laura was honest, Rean was not. Rean paid a price for it later and realized he should of handled it differently. Much like Machias had to deal with fallout for his noble hatred.
It's almost like there's character development to be done throughout the game. Silly huh?
>>343346196
why? I bought it at launch to play Ys Celceta
>>343346581
Karna best girl
>>343346520
>It's almost like there's character development to be done throughout the game. Silly huh?
You're a retard. We know there's development. And that development was Machias learning that his irrational noble hatred was turning him into what he claimed to hate and that his actions where causing problems for everyone
We're not arguing Machias didn't grow, you retard we're arguing you're a shit head for trying to shift all the blame from him.
He was a tremendous cunt but he got better. That's the development.
>>343335294
>Incest should be ok
Fixed that for you. Fucking communists think they know how to run an individual's life better than the individual does. If there's no victim, it ain't a crime.
t. Classical liberal pro.
>>343346495
>She doesn't care how people see her in the slightest
You didn't play the game? Or did you miss her bonding event when she wanted to aquire a more girly taste (Rean sopping with her and picking the Mishy doll for her), her problems with Fie, teaching Monica swimming or her embaresment other her fathers affections?
>And Machias is still constantly shitting on her entire social class.
It's funny you say this after saying she doesn't care what others think. She rarely says a word in regards to his class hatred. And the couple times she does it's usually an indirect agreement with him. Like when Patrick exploded at Rean after the pratical test loss.
>>343346883
Vita version definitely superior huh. That chink PC celceta has horrible face of 3D Karna in this scene.
>>343346883
Indeed
>main girl with orange hair in Ys VIII is a easily flustered rich tsundere
DROPPED
>>343347323
>You didn't play the game? Or did you miss her bonding event when she wanted to aquire a more girly taste (Rean sopping with her and picking the Mishy doll for her), her problems with Fie, teaching Monica swimming or her embaresment other her fathers affections?
those are all minor quibbles in regards to her status as nobility.
>>343347323
>She rarely says a word in regards to his class hatred. And the couple times she does it's usually an indirect agreement with him. Like when Patrick exploded at Rean after the pratical test loss.
Patrick's a cunt. It's not like she has to agree with all the shit the nobles do. Her being able to spot bullshit doesn't change her own feelings about her own heritage.
>>343347559
on the other hand best girl from Celceta is back
>>343347737
Oh! neat. I liked her.
>>343347205
I'm not trying to shift ALL the blame from him. I'm arguing that others, like Jusis, fed into his hatred and proved it right when they could of acted otherwise. I'm also pointing out that someone DID act otherwise and drew no ire from him.
He caused a major uproar with his prejeduce yes, he was in the wrong to start with yes. But Jusis feed the fire to keep him pissed and Rean lied cause he was afraid of another outburst. A reasonable response in Rean's case but still the wrong thing in hindsight.
>>343347737
Definitely the best. Damn Adol don't disappoint me this time.
>>343347891
>A reasonable response in Rean's case but still the wrong thing in hindsight.
and in that same hindsight Machias should be able to realize WHY Rean would lie like he did. Machias is the one who made people uncomfortable.
And once again, it's not anyone's job to PROVE HIM WRONG. You said Laura drew no ire but he still hated nobles despite her proving him wrong. He lumped them all in the same group as one asshole who trolled him.
>>343347608
>those are all minor quibbles in regards to her status as nobility.
You said "She doesn't care how people see her in the slightest because as long as lives to her own code she's content."
I proved that untrue. As she does care and reacts to how other people see her.
>It's not like she has to agree with all the shit the nobles do. Her being able to spot bullshit doesn't change her own feelings about her own heritage.
Yes that's the point and why I use her as an example for Machias outburst. Someone who didn't act like stereotypical noble didn't draw his ire.
Laura handled Machias' outburst properly. She's an example of how nobles should act to stop the commoner hate of nobles.
