ITT: bad game design
>>343311465
>being bad
one try scrub
>>343311347
why?
>ITT: Things too hard for me
>>343311347
Can't parry for shit huh?
>>343311465
The only thing wrong here is the shitty fps, it's a normal level otherwise
>>343311347
The only bad design choice mgr has is that its tutorial doesn't emphasize parrying enough, since it is a mechanic that is almost required to beat bosses with.
Then again this is an obvious bait thread and you know it.
>>343312716
>>343312849
>>343313013
>game doesn't even show you how to parry
>just told to "counter-attack in the direction of an enemy attack"
>can only figure out parrying through trial and error
Nah, it's stupid as fuck
>>343311347
Literally learn to parry: the boss fight
>>343311347
HOLY SHIT HOW DO I PARRY I ALWAYS GET THE BLOCK ANIMATION
>>343314129
Use your intellect
>>343314129
Do the tutorial maybe?
>>343314129
It's almost like you have to be smart or something
>>343314129
>no intellect
>can't evade blows
>>343314129
But the game tells you how to parry.
And even if you don't learn how to do it, you can get all the way to monsoon without it, that's what I did
>>343314129
At what age did critical thinking go extinct
>>343314438
>parrying is evading
Ok, kid. Kamiya is a fucking hack.
>>343311347BORN INTO A PACK
>>343314129
You don't even need the parry. I beat it on my third try by using the ninja run sliding attack to dodge his attacks
I don't think I ever properly parried in that game, it always ended up in a block
the evade was way better anyway
>>343314480
You can't beat blade wolf without parrying.
>>343314129
USE YOUR INTELLECT
EVADE HIS BLOWS
>Trying to beat Armstrong in Revengeance Mode, S Rank and No Damage
>mfw the second fight scene
In case you dont know, basically, you MUST take single hit from Armstrong to make progress, but since this is No Damage, you cant take a single hit from him. So basically, I was rolling around like an idiot for 10 minutes, until the game said ''FUCK IT'', Armstrong stomped on the ground, I fell and took No Damage
>>343314690
Yes you can, I fucking did.
You get the shittiest rank but you can
Synthesizing in Cross Edge
>>343314762
>"you MUST take single hit from Armstrong to make progress"
>I progressed without taking damage
No fucking kidding.
>>343314129
you wanna go to the doctor, you might be autist
>>343311347
>Use your intellect, evade my blows.
boss tells you how to beat him what a good doggo
Looking Glass Knight
Sounds cool on paper but tedious in-game, plus horsecucks are tedious.
can somebody explain this to me? What the fuck was the point of a turtle shell that could only be used for literally 3 seconds?
All memeing aside MGR:R has great game design.
Every boss fight build upon what you learned in the last fight.. And in the final fight you have to use all your skills combined.
>>343315135cut content
>>343313494
spent an hour here, was so pissed when i finally googled it
>>343315157
Sundowner?
>>343314129
>game doesn't even show you how to parry
But that's literally wrong
>>343314197
>>343314232
>>343314236
>>343314351
>>343314374
>>343314480
>>343314507
>>343314891
Explain to me how to parry then :)
What buttons do I press?
>>343315256
Senator
>>343314690
Also literally wrong
>>343315256
You learn how to use that fucking slow motion cut thing mid fight, which you need to cut the shipping crates in the final fight.
>>343311347
I want Bladewolf to beat me at a swordfight and freely choose to rape me. He would get on top of me and straddle me with his heavy arms.
>"Dont resist this... I must learn more about human psychology and mating rituals..."
He would rub his cold snout against my neck as one of his legs starts lowering my trousers. At this point I would probably be pissing myself, but wolf would just hum and mechanically purr into my ears to relax me. He would then lube my butt with his oil and then press his long chainsaw-less tail against it until he pierced right into my lubed box. As he fucked me, what first seemed like a regular experiment, starts to become pleasent for him.
>"This... its good... your body is sending good electric impulses into my interface. I must continue this test. Activating prototype interrogation tool."
Some kind of hole would open under Wolf, showing a synthetic well oiled pussy, and he would lower it onto my penis, heating it up and making it feel amazing at the sensation. After a few minutes he would roar up to the skys as we fill each other with our love juices, his being some kind of safe oil.
After that BW would probably force me to go with him everywhere for further tests. I would constantly act tough and try to resist, but only to make him go rougher on me.
>>343315320
"counter-attack in the direction of an enemy attack"
What button do you use to attack?
>>343315320
The X up in the right corner of your window
what were they thinking?
>>343315320
You're either using shitty bait or retarded.
>>343315320
Press light attack+direction at the same time
>HURRRRR
>>343315320
Attack (so, 'X' on most controllers) whilst pointing your control stick in the direction the attack is coming from at you. Not rocket science.
>>343315320
Face the direction of your enemy
Quickly put the analog stick in is direction
Square/light attack
Timing is the key
Now if you want to practice try the vr tutorial and stop being a cunt with your smug smiley
>>343313494
Is that the episode where Altair watches his mom get fucked at the top of a guard tower?
>>343311347
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIND
>>343315543
This, that puzzle is way too fucking hard. I spent like 45 minutes trying to figure it out.
>>343312572
I still cant figure out how to get past this part
>>343313494
I don't even remember this part, I have no idea why people had a problem with it
>>343311347
I spent 3 hours on it, used a guide, and I still ended up giving up
>>343315868
Literally nothing wrong with that, Skyrim baby.
>>343313494
fuck that shit what are they thinking?
>>343314129
>>343315320
Is this trolling or are we just pretending to be retarded here?
Revengance does do a pretty poor job explaining the parry but it's not that hard to figure out. Also you can easily beat bladewolf without it.
>>343311347
>only 8 enemy types
>character can freely walk in all directions even though the game was basically made for tank control
>have an invincible super mode that can be easily spammed when you're in trouble
>you can be practically invincible if you get really good at Despair Time
>all bosses save the last 3 are braindead easy
>cutscenes every 5 steps
>IT'S ANOTHER ARCADE MACHINE
I love Komaru and Chapter 5 is GOAT, but damn they fucked up bad.
>>343312572
>>343315814
Look up and down repeatedly. It's retarded.
>>343315917
>triggered Oblivicuck
Literally end yourself underage scum.
>>343316040
8 enemy types is pretty good for your average game
>>343314129
Wew the bait is real. Y'all got trolled HARD
>>343311465
thats literally the best area in the game
>>343314762
That phase autoends after like 2.5 minutes or so.
Armstrong has 2 variations of his stomp. For the first bit, it does damage. But after you satisfy the time requirement, it changes to a nonvolatile phase-ender.
So you wasted 7.5 minutes my dude
you win the internet if you can understand the abyss that is the depth of this game
>>343315868
>level 33
>only put 1 point into luck
Holy shit that is DSP levels of bad. Protip; It's not bad game design if your a mouthbreathing mongoloid who doesn't understand how the mechanics work. You're the reason TeS games keep getting simplified every installment.
>>343315473
Are you gonna continue and pastebin this shit or leave me with blue balls
>>343315135
It allows you to build speed for 3 seconds which is enough to get onto the ship without having to press the a button.
>>343313494
I didnt even remember this part of the game but I decided to revisit it when people started complaining about it.
I still have no idea how people got stuck.
8 directional whipping
If you're going to add that cancer, atleast balance the enemies around it, fuck
>>343316268
What does luck do?
>>343315868
Are you referring to the fact that it does nothing until you sleep or something like that?
>>343316268
First result on Google images dumbfuck. Doesn't make the leveling system any less shitty, Oblivibaby.
>>343312572
>people still have trouble with this
>>343316620
Makes you better at EVERYTHING.
>broken ps3 controller
>stick moves on its own
>forced to blunder through the game with fucked slowmo cuts
it hindered my enjoyment of it but I still think it was good. I will try it again with a good controller.
>>343316773
There's no way to know what you're supposed to do there.
>>343316164
Maybe, but it's shit for a TPS.
>>343316620
boosts all your skills by 40% depending on your luck above 50 (50 is base neither good nor bad)
the min max strat is to custom class for luck as a main stat and take thief birthsign so you can max luck out as quickly as possible.
has some other minor effects aswell
>>343316217
I feel like a fucking idiot
>>343311465
Probably my favorite area in the game besides the FPS drops.
The mosquitoes were legitimately bad game design though.
>>343316961
What, is moving the D-pad up and down too fucking hard?
>>343316961
It's a Sonic game, especially a Sonic game after Sonic 1, so if a possible solution isn't working in <30 seconds then it's obviously not the solution. It's obvious after <30 seconds of trying that jumping doesn't work, either solo or with Tails. Then you think back to the previous boss and remember that this game expects you to try using the D-pad once in a while.
>>343313494
what exactly is the problem here?
>>343311347
this is when i learned how casual most of /v/ actually was.
>>343316223
>Played it blind
>barely any knowledge of JRPGs or RPGs in general
>still managed to beat the whole thing, a handful of optional bosses and a few over leveled hunts.
It's not that hard to do, but goddamn there are too many hidden systems. I remember trying to use some decent katana near the end of the game only to realize that there's weapon specialization built in.
Figuring out how to upgrade companion weapons wasn't so bad though, but I still have no idea how to change how someone levels.
>>343315473
TIME TO DROWN YOU ALL IN CUUUUUUUM
>>343316268
Wait is luck actually good? I never put shit into luck in Oblivion.
>>343313494
If you'd played AC1 you'd know what to do there.
>>343317303
Not really, you can get really close to making it through the barrel with jumping, plus looking up and down to make the barrel move makes no logical sense.
I think I used the bubble shield to snap my way through there and never really figured out how to do it.
>>343316604
Funny how a lot of people consider this the best Castelvania.
>>343313494
I like it because the devs expected you to use your brain here.
>>343317708
>Funny how a lot of people consider this the best Castelvania.
They're more than likely normie fucks who think anything on the Super Nintendo was good.
Contra 3 and Super Castlevania 4 were fucking dogshit.
>>343311347
I agree.
>We need to make the player learn how to parry.
>Let's make the second boss battle completely unable to be beaten without an incessant amount of parrying.
Not to mention parrying is broken on the fucking keyboard controls
>>343317854
I genuinely hate the top down parts of Contra 3, but beyond that it's fine.
Still, Hard Corps is better.
>>343315320
Do a smash attack in the direction of your opponent, as he strikes. This is a foolproof explanation.
>a "bad game design" thread by people who have never designed a game nor given any serious thought on the matter
>>343317993
You can very easily beat Bladewolf without a parry
Protip: heavy attacks stun him hard.
make well fellas
>>343318243
*way
damn it
>>343317190
No, it's just not an obvious solution and isn't grounded in any logic.
>>343317303
Which boss was that? The flying one? I'm not flying now though am I?
>>343315320
´,:^)
>>343316496
>>343315840
they didn't know how to fucking jump
>>343311347
Wolf, Monsoon and Armstrong are pretty good bosses.
Wolf seems borderline impossible at first, but once you git gud he is a cakewalk; Monsoon teaches you to parry, and Armstrong teaches you to dodge.
Monsoon's fight drops the ball for those segments where you must stop fighting to dodge his giant magnetic pile of junk. But Armstrong is still a pretty good fight all around, although he could have had a bit more of health in higher difficulties to make it more worthwhile.
>>343315468
>which you need to cut the shipping crates in the final fight.
Fuck that shit unless you want nanopaste. Just run past them.
>>343316303
>dodge like the bitch the game
>>343315320
RAIDEN. IF YOU WANT TO PARRY, YOU MUST PRESS THE PARRY BUTTON IN YOUR CONTROLLER
>>343313494
Ah, a classic image that gets the same robotic replies year after year, time after time.
If you didn't kno you could run up the wall and then leap to the left or right, you're a fucking idiot and I have no idea how you got that far in the game.
Did no one play the fucking tutorial in MGR? Parrying was easily explained.
so am I supposed to parry him as soon as he hits me or when the flashing red pops up
>>343318243
That literally can't happen during normal gameplay though.
>>343317554
kek
>there will never be a mgr sequel
shut off my life inhibitors doc
test
>>343313494
Got stuck here, unashamedly. I believe you had to hold A down, which is never used elsewhere.
Thank god they fixed it in Redux.
>>343319126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnCbLIqtHA
>>343318761
The in level description for the parry is something like "hold the stick towards an enemy and hit light attack" which doesn't work. What >>343318086 said is how it actually works.
I ended up walking into enemies tapping light attack for a short while expecting that to work.
>>343318761
It didn't explain it properly.
The game never tells you that you have to flick the stick from neutral to parry.
>>343317385
I did pretty much this, just used a guide before the final dungeon to upgrade some equipment in preparation for hard mode.
And that's were the game went full retard, I had to get magazines from random sub bosses that sometimes takes like 10 minutes to spawn. After doing this like 4 times. I had to upgrade a weapon to certain level only to realize the side quest wasn't available in the union. That means I had to kill another 5 sub bosses to reach level 5 just to upgrade the stats of a fucking shield.
>>343319272
Wish I'd known this at the time. I was also stuck with very little ammo which made it insanely difficult because I could only kill a select few of the spawners. It was easier on my second playthrough because I knew to come prepared, but still sucked cocks. It was just plain bad design.
>>343318153
This to be honest.
>>343319126
>>343319272
>>343319509
What fucks me up the most about amoebas isn't just that there is literally two floors of them and practically no ammo in sight, but that those shits were never ever mentioned in the books.
>>343318153
So I cannot critique anything unless I have made anything?
So if I go to a restaurant and get shit on my plate, I can't complain?
>>343319126
I think I just switched to military grade ammo for that part.
>>343311347
Don't mind me, just breaking my gameboy for this stupid mandatory minigame.
>>343319780
its a game, not a book
>>343319126
Don't remember this specifically being bad game design, but it took me a while to figure out the "bullets are currency but also bullets" shit and I'm pretty sure I still don't fully grasp how gasmasks/filters work
>>343319780
>not having hundreds of round of military grade ammo at that point
>>343319780
>tfw that whole scene with no ammo
>have to fight them off with my knife
>>343320039
it's a game based on a book, you'd think they wouldn't go adding some stupid shit at the very end
>>343320102
I did, and I spent those shooting them, but fuck me if it wasn't annoying
That one bb boss where you hit this fat nigger and avoid her 1 hit ko nigglets. It's fucking lame.
>>343318439
True, you can run past them. but still the game teaches you how to cut the crates. so its still well designed.
>>343319780
But they die in like two shots
>>343320580
>Playing on easy
top cuck
>>343319272
SERBIA STRONG
>>343320189
>File: ▄█ █▄█ ▄█▀ ▀█▀.png
>>343320750
Enemies actually have less hp on higher difficulties. But so do you.
>>343320959
only on ranger difficulties.
>>343317854
Sega fag detected
>>343319126
>mfw this is exactly what happened for me
Too real.
>got all the way up to kids are cruel, jack without learning how to parry
>tried to beat him like 20 times
>fuck this gay earth, dropped game
>came back year later
>oh, "parry"
>whoop ass all the way through without dying once
>>343321203
>dying to sundowner
nigga just run in circles
that's how I did it
>>343321034
Why the fuck would you ever play anything other than Ranger mode?
>>343318243
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>343321203
How the fuck did you manage to beat Monsoon?
fuck this part
>>343315507
>"counter-attack in the direction of an enemy attack"
Having never played this game I would interpret that as "attack button" + "left/right for horizontal slashes and up/down for vertical"
is that it?
>>343321761
I didn't know how to parry either. I just threw those emp-grenades on him and used up like six nanopastes
>>343321761
constant sprinting, only light attacks
his bullshit long reach attacks of course always got me but I had max pastes stored up, and if I remember correctly the shit he throws around drops some more at the end
>>343314129
Don't you have Valve games to test?
>>343322076
It's easier than that.
Attack in the direction of the enemy as they strike
>>343315468
>You learn how to use that fucking slow motion cut thing mid fight,
Or you don't because people circlestrafe attack around him and kill him without even destroying one shield.
>>343322076
not that guy, but iirc you you "tap" the right stick in the direction of the enemy
>>343322174
honestly 3+ gorillas without parry was nearly worse than monsoon
>>343322060
>he actually bought it
>>343315868
Die screaming
>>343322479
>bought
>>343319030
LT+A while stationary performs a standing jump, a move used nowhere else in the game
>>343322174
>>343322129
That's still genuinely impressive, then again the game's easily manageable on normal.
>>343322397
>>343318676
That's not what you're supposed to do at all rofl. You're supposed to go under it on the railing and just jump straight up.
>>343319780
>were never ever mentioned in the books.
Oh but they were, they a single being there though and in the books they had actual powers instead of just being blobs
>>343317169
they're actually good game design. their whole purpose is to hand deliver you purple moss.
>>343315543
Is this a meme? I barely remember this from the game
>>343324538
It pissed me off when they would phase through platforms and ladders to hit me, sometimes stunlocking me on a ladder. Or when they'd get stuck in the floor, yet still be able to hit me although I couldn't hit them.
Also, the fact that you can't hit them with certain weapons is ridiculous. I solved this issue by popping them with the Composite Bow.
Even with the fucking tutorial I couldn't do it
>>343324552
Meme
>>343316268
If a stat is mandatory to play the game, it shouldn't be a stat. It just becomes wasted resources. SeeDark Souls II Adaptability stat.In your game's case:
>Low HP stat? Don't get hit.
>Low Magic stat? Don't use magic.
>Low Dodge/Agility stat? Be tankier.
>Lmao game is unplayable without Luck
Bad design. It forces you to put points into something stupid instead of specialising.
