ITT: games that are impossible to hate
>>343291464
>>343291464
I honestly wanna say the full series on this one but I'll pick the most popular game from the series right now.
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>>343291501
>>343293437
I hate those games
>>343291464
I dunno... water zone wasn't too fun...
>>343291464
I can't say I hate the game, but I hate its fans and how I feel it has negatively influenced future Mario games.
>>343294321
No you don't.
>>343291464
Super Mario Bros. 3 was the only Mario game I didn't like.
>>343291464
I hate that game
>>343293437
>>343291464
purist following
>>343291464
CHIPMAN!
>>343291464
You can hate parts of it, but as a whole, it's hard to not like it.
I for one didn't like worlds six or seven too much when I was young.
>>343294453
I fail to see a feasible way SMB3 negatively impacted future marios games. Care to share your thoughts?
All the black and the shaded color template in combination with its difficulty makes the game a stressful experience for me.
If the colors were lighter and more vibrant with less black everywhere I'd have an easier time calling it the best 2D mario.
>>343294453
I'm really shocked the series didn't take more cues from World.
>Better level design
>Better power-ups
>Better collectables and power-ups
>Better secrets and postgame content
>God-tier flying mechanics
I really don't get why Miyamoto circlejerks SMB3 so much. Maybe because it fits his whole shtick that all the Mario games are just gigantic plays in his mind and SMB3 fits that mold, and therefore all games must follow SMB3's lead because of it.
>>343291464
>that stupid hawaiian like music
>those lame minigame that are there only to waste your time
>raccoon suit is literaly just the cape but lamer
>huge difficulty spike in the end make the game more frustating than anything else
more like super mehrio bros 3
>>343291464
SMW > SMB3
held more of a fun factor than SMB3
>>343295113
>worse level design
>less power-ups
>less collectables unless you play the GBA version, redundant
The only things that are correct are the last two.
>>343295086
Then you must like the Advance or at least All-Stars version.
>>343295113
>World
>better level design
World is fucking flat except for fortresses and castles.
>>343295373
I prefer the colors, but also prefer the rest of the original's art style (the way everything is drawn and laid out.)
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>>343293437
Hate them both, they're fucking garbage
>>343295053
NSMB is a bastardized Mario 3
And everything Mario is now just NSMB, so by extension, Mario 3 is to blame
>>343295053
Not that guy, but the series has followed a predictable set up for world maps (Ice, Forest, Desert, etc.). The level design is no different than what you would find in SMB3. Secrets, sure, but not on the same level of head-scratching difficulty like in World, and the newer games have done it worse with simple secrets and/or coin chemtrails leading you on to new secrets.
The powerups may have gotten varied, but are more limited in their handling.
Bosses aren't as varied. Sure, it's always gonna be 'hit three times', and World wasn't as varied, either. Good boss design was achieved in Sunshine and Galaxy 1, but died with NSMBWii and remained stagnant.
That's just my take, I guess. I love 3, but it's a close second to World for me.
>>343291464
I hate it. Super Mario Bros. 4 was better.
>>343295113
Its an opinion on level designs when comparing SMB3 and world. Both have fantastic and shitty stages.
Cape was fun, but broke the game. The only way to do something similar in 3 was with the super P wing, and that was only for one stage.
Post game content can be done way before post game, i will state it doesn't count. Secrets ill give, but only by default. Same for flying mechanics. My opinion is thus: SMB3 is far more varied when compared to World, world is more of a faster pace mario,, and had many more auto scrollers.
>>343295682
>head-scratching difficulty like in World
>>343291464
>underestimating neo-/v/
I've seen people here claim that all 2D games are shit. neo-/v/ can hate literally anything
>>343295345
Less power-ups does not make it a bad game, senpai. It's the quality of the item.
>>343295420
Nigga, did you just blaze through the stages without noting their design? Some were vertical, others had you loop up and above or even down and below platforms to get through levels. Hell the Forest of Illusion taught you early that you had to change your notion that all you had to do is go right and win to advance through the area, and then when you apply that logic to the rest of the game you realize that the level design for large parts of he game are more nuanced than meets the eye.
>>343295682
>Good boss design was achieved in Sunshine
Ehhhh
Petey and Wiggler are the only ones that actually do anything
King Boo and the manta feel like chores
>>343296078
There was also Mecha-Bowser.
>>343296073
>Some were vertical, others had you loop up and above or even down and below platforms to get through levels
3 had that.
>Hell the Forest of Illusion taught you early that you had to change your notion that all you had to do is go right
You still go right, you just have to stop at the right locations. You should have just mentioned the forest ghost house. That one is clever.
>>343295959
>m-muh bügeymen
Maybe it's just dumb shitheads being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, aniki.
>>343295651
No, NSMB is a bastardized child Mario 1 and World. Every single track ecxept for the fortress and bosses in World was a mixed up theme of the first stage music. Same in NSMB. Spin jump originated in World, and a mor lame version of it is in NSMB. Simplistic backgrounds in world carried over to NSMB series. Blame Mario 3 all you want, but most of the trends in NSMB design stem from World.
>>343295682
see my post
>>343296327
>>343296327
Except for, y'know, the colored blocks bolted to the background, the 'varied' World maps and much of the level design and boss design.
If you're gonna add Mario 1 to the mix, put Mario 2 in there because eventually picking up items and throwing it gets added into the series too.
NSMB just bastardizes the entire series. Don't act like Mario 3 is exempt from that.
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>>343296327
don't forget nsmb even brought back reznor and yoshi
and how EVERY world requires a ghost house
>>343296519
now you are moving the goal post.
>>343291464
I've already BTFO'd you haters on /co/. I'll debate you here as well.
>>343295345
>>less power-ups
yeah, SMW not having another cape leaf with invincibility/infinite flight, a level skipper, and a useless power-up (frog suit) makes it less superior to SMB3
>>343296562
Here's your (You).
>>343296327
>ignoring the obvious influence 3 had on NSMB.
Predictable world structure. Generic bosses, power up storage and mini game houses.
Not to mention that referencing 3 has become a lazy way to generate hype. The Tanooki suit was Nintendo's main marketing tool for 3D Land.
>>343296673
>Cape needs a short stretch, always available since levels are flat
>you don't even have to play most of the levels
>Yellow Yoshi
>>343296651
The gameplay gets a bit stale on multiple playthroughs, but you wouldn't play it more than once,right?
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>>343296327
Quit being biased retards. You both know NSMB is a combination of everything in the 2D Mario series with even some 3D things in there.
>>343296694
thank you
>>343296818
Are you joking? The point of it is to play it multiple times so that you can see the multiple endings.
>>343296757
Yellow Yoshi was shit. Blue Yoshi broke more of the game than what the Cape could ever do.
>>343296875
You're welcome,friendo.
>>343296884
I got Pacifist on one playthrough, decided that was enough for me and left it alone.
>>343296742
only because it was a fan favorite. Generic bosses were the reward for your secret fortress in world. the topic of the debate here was the New Super Mario bros series, though you are right when you compare 3 and 3d land. If all you and the other poster have on me is the world themes in NSMB series, thats about it. Most of everything else is from the first 2 games and world.
>>343291464
This is a dumb thread. By nature of where you are, someone is going to hate on it.
>>343296838
Im not. the thing s a pointed out are true. well, imm off to sleep Have fun fueling the endless debate.
>>343297203
>because it was a fan favorite
More like it was Miyamoto's favorite. I honestly can't wait for the chink to retire. He held back Zelda long enough and he killed StarFox with his shitty ideas. I honestly can't wait to see a non-Miyamoto Mario game.
>>343297218
Well there's tons more discussion elsewhere. Why don't you go shitpost there, aniki?
>>343297591
underrated post
Anything made by Pixel/Daisuke Amaya or Keita Takahashi.
>>343291464
I dont like it. Too many gimmicky powerups and levels. The airships at the end of each world are slow and boring as fuck. Its my least favorite 2D mario.
>>343291464
I hate every single Nintendo game.
>>343299235
shows what you know fucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wgqf2qkLxk
Don't mind me, just posting best mario rpg
What the hell kind of massive fucking cock fondling faggonigger dislikes 3 or World? They deserve terminal cancer.
>>343296651
Nice fucking bait
![smb3bbb_main_1024x1024[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0VdV7pi.jpg "smb3bbb_main_1024x1024[1].jpg")
>>343299983
I hate 3 for spawning shit like this. You never see it for 64 or the Galaxies despite their superiority
>>343299114
I'mspliton this game.
>>343299865
this is correct
>>343295682
>newer games have done it worse with simple secrets
Confirmed for not playing NSMBU.
>>343301213
Still not as bad as his Samurai Pizza Cats video that he obviously did no real research for.
>>343297383
We already saw that with 3D World and the NSMB series. And I like how you nlame him for Zelda rather than Aonuma. Shows how little you know about the shit you whine about.
>>343299525
shilling your own videos is pathetic
