Why is it so hard to for anyone to make a better controller?
>>343271709
can't top perfection
>>343271882
Not with that D-Pad
>>343271950
Ek bok eleet
XBONE
>>343271950
literally what's the problem?
it's actually easier to do diagonal moves with it
>>343272180
the d-pad is the only thing that sonyggers and nintendrones can bring up when it comes to the 360 controller. because it's the only thing that their controllers do better. the 360 controller is the most comfortable and practical ever designed.
>>343271709
Both Sony and Microsoft have made better controllers though. The Xbone controller fixed the shitty d-pad, and the DS4 is somehow even more comfortable than the 360 controller.
>>343273094
thanks for the laugh
>>343271709
It's too big for people with small hands.
>>343271950
d-pad is barely ever used so who cares
>shit d-pad
>shit bumpers with shit feedback
>shitty round face buttons
>fucking batteries in the 21st century
I mean, it was great if you were playing dudebro shooters like Halo and Gears and it was also great that most 7th gen games recognized it as a default controller, but the thing itself is fucking awful.
>>343271709
Because evolution of hands doesn't happen in a decade.
>>343273565
you need to git gud.
This is now a chinkpad thread.
>>343271709
its very simple ; SJW
that controller was designed to mimic gun triggers. if u hold it with one hand it feels like a gun handle with trigger
after so many shooting in the land of bugers, they cant do that again
also its durability is due to M$ being 10 years behind competition....so they used heavy hard plastic instead of china plastic like sony
>>343273094
Wait i'm confused, How am i to press the XYBA while moving the thingy-ma-jigg in the right?
>>343273565
what's wrong with batteries?
they are cheap, easy to use and last for weeks
Blame Nintendo for forcing motion gimmicks. We're just now breaking out of it.
>>343274027
>if u hold it with one hand it feels like a gun handle with trigger
i do this all the time
>>343274005
That is the bastard that rotates in the middle isn't it.
I tried to have this thread earlier, and nobody bit.
It just needs three things...
- A better D-pad, something more rigidly defined.
- Analog buttons for extra capability
- The odd one or two extra buttons, maybe above start and select
We'd never need another standard controller.
>>343272180
Its flimsy and lacks responsiveness.
>>343274176
Yes it does. Was god tier for ridge racer and wipeout.
>>343273094
>Kinder surprise toy plastic
>Good
kek
>>343271709
But it's already been done, anon.
>>343273397
Anyone who has ever played a 2D game
>>343274323
why not just play it with analogs?
>>343274315
LOL. NO. LOL
>>343274452
Same reason you don't play fighting games with a racing wheel.
>>343271709
Non symmetrical analog sticks are shit
I had a 360 for years and switched about 2 years ago to ps4 and the DS4 and it is a much better controller scheme
>>343271709
As long as the D-Pad is like this, every controller will lose Sony imo.
>>343274098
>what's wrong with batteries
If they aren't rechargeable fucking everything
>>343274452
Most people, unlike yourself, have 23 chromosomes. That is why most people prefer the D-pad.
>>343273216
>>343274287
>Delusioned microshittera
>>343274315
Bad analog sticks that wear down like butter, triggers with no push that can be activated just by placing controller down, retarded useless touchpad that also moves option button to uncomfortable position, share button, massive light that does nothing but make it awkward shape, the slope on usb slot making it easy to accidentally snap your connector, still built for small baby hands, requires third party software to use with a pc.
>>343274652
Blame nintendo - they own the patent to the original Dpad design.
>>343273826
At what?
>>343271709
I don't know. It just needs a better d-pad and then it's good.
>>343274720
Whoops, Microshitters*
>>343272180
Yes, because that's all it does.
I thought xbone controllers felt better than 360
>>343272180
And impossible to do horizontal and vertical moves. Playing fighting games is impossible with it. inb4 stickfag autists.
>>343274756
Fuking Nintendo
It pisses me off so much that you basically have to buy first party controllers, because the d-pad on those mad catz is even worse than usual due to that. And it screeces most of the time like its broken
>>343274931
maybe if you're a fucking sperg
>>343274882
Face buttons are bit worse on xbone, but d-pad improved significantly, so on the whole it is better.
>>343273094
I just wish it had a d-pad.
At least they made the analog stick convex.
Has anyone ever had issues with the wired controller?
Considering getting one over wireless for my pc since it's cheaper
>>343275080
>Not using the left pad for movement
>>343275151
I do, which is exactly why the left stick is useless and would be better replaced with a d-pad for 2D games.
>>343275127
no problems here, had it for 3 years too
>>343275127
Nope, just plug it in and it works like a charm, I think mine is at least seven years old and doesn't have a single mechanical glitch. If anything wireless are bigger hassle, since you also need to buy dongle for them and then it has problems connecting sometimes.
>>343274882
Xbone controllers major problem is shoddy quality. Google it if you don't believe me, lots of people are having problems with them breaking after very little actual use. Older models in particular pretty much had a 100% failure rate.
>>343274752
>Bad analog sticks that wear down like butter
A myth. Had it for 2 years now, no wear and still comfortable to hold.
>triggers with no push that can be activated just by placing controller down
What does that even mean? And no, they don't activate when you put it down.
>retarded useless touchpad that also moves option button to uncomfortable position
Touchpad 's entirely optional, works well in DS4Windows to use as a mouse. And also, is THAT an uncomfortable position for your thumb? How much of a midget are you?
>share button
Again, optional on windows, you can remap it to anything. Also PS4 recording the last X amount of your games and being able to access them easily is neat.
> massive light that does nothing but make it awkward shape
Awkward shape? No. You can also disable the light on PC. I can understand this criticism for PS4 though as they didn't implement a way to turn it off so far, afaik.
> the slope on usb slot making it easy to accidentally snap your connector
I'll give you this as well, the connector could be more sturdy. But if you actually snapped your connector, you must have the intellegence of an ape.
>still built for small baby hands
I have average size hands and it very comfortable, much more than the 360. 360 is bulky, whereas DS4 feels nice to hold.
>requires third party software to use with a pc
And that third party software is amazing and has so much customizability. Not a downside at all.
Overall, all your gripes seem to be minor. It's a great controller, one of the best I've used so far.
>>343275478
The hilarious part is that premium elite controller (the one where you can swap parts around) still runs off AA batteries and has gained a reputation for falling apart.
>>343275775
The Xbone controllers are made from some shit tier plastic. You can unclip them to take them apart, but once you do the clips permanently deform and they never clip back together properly, so you're left with a controller that feels like it could fall apart in your hands.
>>343274090
My gut is telling me "lol 3rd party stay away" but is it really that bad? It actually seems kinda nice... Wanna try it for PC...
>>343275631
>The 360 is bulky
And the ds4 is way too flimsy. Feels too light weight. Too small for comfort. Sure you can fit your whole hand over it but I believe its better to have a control that better fits the hand, and you need something larger for that
I haven't tried an Xbone or PS4 controller yet, but I hate the PS3 controller.
360 wired is what I use on PC.
Instead of a right analog stick, use a trackball.
>>343276060
I actually bought one as my dualshock 3 I was using on my PC is taking a serious beating (it is best part of a decade old) and that controller is what I settled on after doing my research.
To me it feels responsive and sturdy and could easily pass off as a first party controller. There are a fair few youtube reviews of it (though many focus on its usage with phones) but the general points of how feels iis the same regardless of what its plugged into. For what its worth windows detects it as a 360 controller and thus just werks™
>>343276224
It's a preference thing. I've used both and prefer the DS4.
>>343276295
Welp fuck it I ordered it
>>343271950
>as opposed to the ps3's mushy piece of shit dpad
>>343276412
Who brought up ds3? ds4 is the superior one anyways.
>>343271882
>weak resistance sticks with a circular gate
>mushy, inaccurate d-pad
>perfection
I like the controller as well but come on now
>>343276650
i'll make your d-pad mushy
>>343274704
Downies have 23 chromosome pairs as well, but they have 3 chromosomes on the 21st pair
Git gud
Recipe for the perfect controller
>any of the current gen controller frames (preference)
>Genesis D-Pad
>Gamecube sticks with octo gate
>DS4 bumpers, XBONE triggers
>6 face buttons, 5 and 6 can be mapped to be the bumpers
>wiiu pro style buttons with DS4 size
>start/select/home/turbo buttons in the middle
>3 sizes from micro to xboxhueg
>>343274084
The same way you press XYBA while moving the right thumbstick on a standard Xbox360 controlleryou can't
But also you could hypothetically bind one of those four buttons to the hidden two button flaps on the other side too.
>>343277439
>not clawing it so you can make full use of the controller
I used a steam controller for 50 hours of dark souls 3. It's really nice, I don't get the hate. It takes a bit to get used to but I ended up enjoying it more than my 360 controller
>>343271709
Dualshock is objectively superior because of symmetrical thumb sticks. The location of the left Xbox thumb stick is actually hella not fucking ergonomic for your thumb/wrist, but the right is. A well designed controller would have symmetrical sticks because you have symmetrical hands.
>>343272034
>digital triggers
I haven't touched my S/NES and PS1 for the longest time. I went back and felt the controllers and I could swear they weren't always this small.
The 360 controller knows its audience well and it's ergonomically perfect.
>>343274687
>rechargeable
why would i bother with recharging when i can just put fresh ones? batteries are dirt cheap.
I love my elite controller
>>343278374
Retarded tiny hand baby. Left stick plus buttons is the resting position. Dualshock makes it so your dpad and buttons are resting or two thumbsticks too closetogether. What a dink.
>>343271709
i really don't know. especially with microsoft.
its quite simple. microsoft has the money to throw away at designing the perfect controller. the funniest thing is that all this time, theyve just been using the dreamcast controller as the base and modifying it, adding more things. sega pioneered the ultimate controller while microsoft adjusted it to perfection with the 360 and xbone. little weeaboo sonyggers and autistic pony fucking nintendrones still get butthurt that xbox will always have the best controller.
imo i agree with OP. I haven't owned a console in years but still use these generic 360 controllers for muh PC gaming.
>>343275267
hanoice
>>343271950
/thread
>>343274704
Actually, unfortunately, among normies (ie most people) it's perfectly acceptable to play digital games with analog controls, and that's why before the XBone nobody arsed themselves to make a good dpad.
I like the controller the most too, but I'm still confusing RB/LB and RT/LT when a button prompt appears on the screen.
>>343284204
oh no an antiquated form of control! how could it ever do without that thing that's been irrelevant on consoles for the past 20 years!
>>343278965
get rechargeable AAs. best of both worlds.
>>343281751
Except Sega had to design there controller for them and they've been using a modified dreamcast/Saturn 360 ever since
>>343271950
>>343271709
xbone controller
>>343284858
bumpers
triggers
left
right
how the fuck is this hard?
>>343277439
You can use the inside of your thumb without letting go of the xa button
>>343274240
>Analog buttons
But it does?
>>343274315
Fuck off. It's shit compared to the DS3.
>Perfect Controller
>No one posted the Gamecube Controller
>No one posted Keyboard/Mouse
>>343285632
>K70
>>343284905
>the d-pad is antiquated
how old are you son?
>>343285632
Gamecubes cstick and tiny dpad stop it from being the greatest
>>343285632
>shit second stick
>shit plastic analog stick
>retard button placement
>d-pad for ants
>triggers are just why
>???z button????
someone explain why people think it's so good i'm honestly curious
>>343271709
microsoft already did
>>343274260
Was god tier for ridge racer and wipeout.
I never owned one so I've been wondering for 20 years:
How?
>>343286149
>>someone explain why people think it's so good i'm honestly curious
it's the most comfy controller. if you replace the triggers with 360 triggers, and the bumpers with 360 bumpers, and the d-pad with a ds d-pad, it would be perfect
it's actually surprisingly good, like I've been told it's bad for fighting games until I actually used it
maybe people with xboxhueg hands can't use it, but I'm tiny so I can
>>343286227
this. i would give the ps4 controller the edge because i kinda prefer the sticks (not the placement, just the sticks themselves). but i can never get over those fucking terrible triggers and cheap material they used. i had to buy 2 extra dualshocks because the r2 broke, from pressing it so much. my launch ds lasted a few months. the second ds broke in early 2015. and im on the third and last one i will ever be buying now. if this fucking pile of garbage breaks again, fuck it.
meanwhile, my launch xbone controller is still completely fine. i dont have to worry about delicately pressing the right trigger and am free to mash it. still has its full range, the sticks arent made of dog shit and are still there in one piece, plastic is heavier and nicer.
fuck the ps4 and its shit controller. xbox until the end.
>>343272034
Glorious salvation
>>343286740
>if you replace all the buttons with good buttons it's good
keked
>>343272395
>sony
No
>>343275478
But let's be honest, the 360 controller is low quality too. I've had 2 die on me whereas I have Gamecube controllers that have had massive abuse still working like they're new.
>>343272034
Anyone know of a 3rd party WiiU controller that will also function as a Wii Classic Controller?
I have one but the company that makes them doesn't do products for Nintendo consoles any more.
>>343286348
Gave you very, very quick turning with finer control than what a Dpad offered at the time. Once the dual analog came along (lel predates dualshock) the negcon lost what made it truly unique.
>>343271709
>le xbox controller is best meme
pretty much the only this ms has going for them.
browsing /v/ with one right now>>343273094
>le
JUST bought xbone controller for pc and the l1 & r1 buttons are horrible. how am i supposed to play ds with these
>>343274315
it would be my favorite but you have to recharge it like every 4 hours
I've found that with controllers it's just up to which one you get accustomed to. There is no definite best.
>>343290178
>playing Souls games on anything other than a Playstation
lol
![811125-gamecube_controller[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RQPEPqQ.jpg "811125-gamecube_controller[1].jpg")
>>343272347
>implying that any controller is more comfortable to hold than the Gamecube controller
Yes, the button layout is borderline retarded, but the way your hands melt into the controller makes it the most form fitting and comfy controller to date.
>>343271709
>hold xbox controller
>feels like shaking hands with a working man
>hold playstation controller
>feels like I might accidentally break it in half at any moment
haven't touched a controller in years though. I like a mouse.
>>343290178
i had the same complaint, they're extremely stiff. Fortunately they get softer in a week or two
The best.
>>343291302
I've heard it has massive horrible deadzones.
>>343290823
>playing any games on playstation besides demon's souls
lol
>>343291302
I have one, but I cannot agree.
>spongy dpad disc
>convex joystick tips
>digital triggers
>cheap PS2 knockoff controller that feels cheaper in every way
Still have lots of PC gaming memories with it, though.
>>343291554
I nearly bought one but digital triggers? I cannot buy any controller without analog triggers this day and age - far too useful for racing games.
>>343291536
Playing games on a console like a faggot.
>>343271709
Because making a better controller requires drastic changes.
>>343274027
>>343274170
Have you even held a gun before?
Like, in real life, not in a video game?
>>343292369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYKfnWtQSaQ
The amount of customization you can do with it is ridiculous
>>343277847
>crippling your hand at an early age
>>343293276
You fucking WHAT? That's some next level autism to be able to create that.
>>343274315
Design is nice, materials are godawful
>Sticker front shoulder buttons
>face buttons made of hard plastic
>the worst D-pad design ever
>most ridiculous looking logo button in the middle
I'll take the N64 controller over it any day.
>>343271709
Not many companies can spent the ridiculous amount of money microsoft invest designing their controllers.
The ps3 controller will always be my favourite. I also hate the feeling of holding a microsoft controller, but the wiiu pro is pretty damn good too.
>>343271709
You mean the X Cocks Wee Dicks Pee controller?
>>343291139
I really like a lot of things about this controller. Unfortunately it did a couple things wrong
>dpad way to small
>triggers shouldn't be formed to block moving from R to Z (although its not that big of a deal even in high level melee it doesn't seem to effect anything).
>start button is a piece of shit
>needs more grooves in control stick slot for more precise direction
>moving thumb from b to x kinda stinks and there's enough room below the A button to circumvent this
>no ZL button
The c-stick is fine.
It has the worst Dpad I've ever used.
>>343274752
the DS4 is larger than an Xbox 360/One controller though.
