atmosphere>story>gameplay
how accurate is this
gameplay > everything else
>>343236723
>having anything > gameplay
it's wrong
>>343236835
My nigga, gameplay is what video games are about
>>343236723
I hope you get hit by a truck.
>>343237348
Who is this spunk punk?
Story>gameplay>art direction>music
>>343236723
Gameplay is ALWAYS first, want atmosphere and story first go see a movie
>>343236723
die you faggot, i bet you love gone home
gameplay>music>story
I am absolutely sure that anyone who doesn't consider gameplay to be the most important is a sonygger.
gameplay = story > music > everything else
this is true
Atmosphere is a combination of gameplay, music, art and story, you can't just rate it separately.
>>343237748
Erin from The Escapist
gameplay>music=atmosphere>story
If you have good enough music and atmosphere you can fool people into thinking you have a good story
>>343238057
I'm a Sonygger and I consider gameplay the absolute most important aspect of any game, shit like Until Dawn is killing the "game" part of "videogames"
>>343238083
no, it's not.
gameplay > soundtrack = artstyle > story = atmosphere > graphics
Gameplay > Story > Atmosphere = Music
>>343237830
You can't immerse yourself in a movie in the same way you can in a game.
There are plenty of games that are good despite having sub-par gameplay.
>>343238304
I think gameplay comes is the most important part of games but I actually liked Until Dawn.
I'm fine with a game focusing more on story as long as the story is good. I think Until Dawn had a really good atmosphere and I enjoyed playing through it.
I just don't want EVERY game to try to be a movie
>>343238557
Name one, faggot
Gameplay is most important, music and atmosphere is equal to me.
While a story isn't technically needed, having a really good one is really good. Although if you are going to have a story, it has to be good, else it will ruin the game.
Gameplay>Music=Atmosphere>Story========>political agendas
>>343238557
>There are plenty of games that are good despite having sub-par gameplay.
Correct, but those games are not tryng to be movies
Gameplay>atmosphere>music>story
>>343236723
>atmosphere > story > gameplay
>video GAMES
>GAMEplay
Holy shit OP.
>>343238680
>Planescape: Torment
>Alpha Protocol
>KOTOR 1 & 2
>The Witcher series
>most turn based RPGs
>Silent Hill 1, 2 & 3
>Resident Evil 1, 2 & 3
I could go on.
>>343236835
/thread
Gameplay > Graphics > Music > Atmosphere > Story
gentlemen, the reason why these shit tier shills are trying to start a conversation on this subject, or provoke you into compromising your standards for a good 'story,' or 'atmosphere,' is that those things are very cheap on the market
its easy to hire college grads to write an interesting story or to map out an interesting environment
creating new functional gameplay is expensive and difficult
if you allow yourself to spend real money for the exact same game taking place in a different environment, or wrapped in a different story, (read: all major IPs) you are contributing to the decline of our culture
>>343239002
>video GAMES
>GAMEstory
>GAMEatmosphere
>GAMEmusic
gameplay > music > performance (how well the game runs, bugs, loading times, etc) > art style
Story is unimportant
>>343238293
>If you have good enough music and atmosphere you can fool people into thinking you have a good story
it's all about presentation
after thousands of years of literature, there's not a lot of new plot twists or stories which don't parallel things we already have
>>343236723
gameplay=atmosphere>>>story
Gameplay is god.
Atmosphere is king.
Music is queen.
Artstyle is prince.
Graphics is duke.
I just beat Outlast and it was a really good example of great atmosphere not being able to lift up sub-par gameplay. I was really bored the whole time, and would have killed for some proper stealth mechanics or resource management instead of a walking simulator that occasionally screamed "BOO!" at me.Please don't make Queen and Duke Nukem jokes.
depends> on > the game
It really depends on the game.
Gameplay and Atmosphere > Story and Music > Graphics
>>343239018
Drakengard
>>343239195
>its easy to hire college grads to write an interesting story or to map out an interesting environment
Nope, pretty much every story of AAA games nowadays is kinda shitty
>>343239473
Looks like Bayonetta to me
Gameplay > Music > The rest
A game needs good gameplay and good music to be interesting, story and whatever else is just an extra
>>343236723
>gameplay last
I dont care about the other placement, you're just flat out wrong
>>343239231
>GAMEatmosphere
>not GAMEsphere
pls
>>343240781SPHERICAL
>>343236835
>>343237626
>>343237830
>>343237982
>gameplay
(You) pic related
unless you niggers only play tetris or age of empires, then no, you don't consider gameplay the most important part
one thing isn't objectively greater than another.
I've played games with shit gameplay just because I wanted to see the story through, like The Witcher series.
I've played games with poor gameplay through to the end just because some aspect of the design stuck out like music and artsyle stuck out, like the Bioshock series.
I've played games with a shitty story because the gameplay was fun like every fighting game I've ever played.
>>343236835
Yup.
>>343239018
Gameplay in Silent Hill and RE is still fucking fun, and a lot of turn based RPGs are fun as well. Fun's a pretty subjective term really.
>>343239473
Gameplay is topArt style is nextthen atmospherethen musicthen graphics.
I cannot get into a game with a bad art style. If a protagonist looks stupid and is annoying I won't play the game.Good music helps a game a lot but if a game has forgettable music it doesn't really have a negative impact. Quake 1 has like no music and no one really cares
>>343240919
Go watch a movie instead if that's what you want
>>343236723
Innacurate on pretty much every level
Gameplay is the most important
>>343236723
You have it reversed.
>>343241098
go play chess if gameplay is all you want
gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atmosphere > story
Story and atmosphere are mostly in the same boat though. If they feel disconnected, then either the story or the atmosphere was tacked on.
>>343236723
i had my hair cut like the guy on the right when i was in highschool
>>343240962
SH2 was a legit fun game though, granted if it was stripped of all the elements but gameplay it would suffer insanely hard. Trying to survive enemy encounters with an optimum of health and ammo supplies is what makes survival horror games fun. Instead of flashy fast combat every action needs to be tactical. If you try to gun down every enemy in most survival horror games you end up fucked.
>>343240919
>underage tries to tell other people off for valuing the one thing that sets video games apart from other mediums
>>343240919
>I want the "cinematic experience"
Just go watch a movie then, fag
>>343241219
Go read a book or watch a movie if story is that important to you. You fucking idiot.
>>343236723
Fun>atmosphere>gameplay>music>graphics>story
>>343241219
Oh, cool. Is there a boardgame equivalent of FPS games that can recreate the exact experience with physical equipment?
I think it's kinda dumb to rate one part of a game over another, but at the same time I can more easily think of games that are iconic and memorable only because of things other than gaming, such as those on this list >>343239018
What are some examples of games that are exemplary for the medium for gameplay alone?
>>343236723
gameplay>atmosphere>music>graphics>story
>>343241531
other than gameplay*
>>343241307
>gameplay
>the one thing that sets video games apart from other mediums
you can't seriously be this retarded
>>343241438
all parts are important, is the point I was trying to make
>>343241514
congratulations, you just described atmosphere, not gameplay (which in that case would be moving the mouse and clicking), thanks for proving op's point
>>343241514
you can go play paintball, if you want
>>343236835
this. only true answer. pic is a shining example
Fun> Gameplay = Atmosphere = Story
>>343241531
Quake
Unreal
Doom
Devil May Cry
Fuck, God Hand is the definition of gameplay over anything else.music is a close second though, everything else is ass.
>>343236723
PS4 owner detected
gameplay > no atmosphere > atmosphere > music > graphics > story
Fite me.
>>343241726
>>343241454
How is fun separate from Gameplay?
Music
character writing
Level design
gameplay
World building
Art design
framerate
graphic
>>343241649
>atmosphere
Yes, truly experience is limited to atmosphere. Can you recreate FPS games in real life with the same general experience of most FPS games?
>>343241649
>all parts are important
Demonstrably false.
Stroy is, by far, the least relevant element of a game. You can take any competent game and chop out the story completely, and you still have 90% of that gaming experience.
If you find that the gaming experience is cut down by more than 10% when you completely remove the story, then it wasn't a game or it was a very shitty game.
In fact, this should be the metric used when judging the quality of a game. Completely remove all content that is strictly story and see how much content is left. Someone make a scale.
>>343239619
>>343238513
>VIDEO game
See, I can do this too.
When did it become popular to WANT graphics to be shitty? Good visuals should not diminish your precious gameplay, or else the developer is just trash.
>>343241960
>>/mu/
>>/lit/
ok
ok
>>>/lit/
ok
ok
>>>/out/
remove the things I redirected from the list and your opinion is acceptable.
>>343241914
>no atmosphere
you like your games in a fucking vaccum? i dont understand
Audio > gameplay > story > visuals
>>343241915
Fun can come from any factor as long as it's properly executed.
>>343242084
>hurr what the fuck is space me confus
Space games are amazing. Space engine is more fun than any planet-bound game.
>>343241915
deadly premonition is fun
its gameplay is complete shit
>>343242063
No, learn what I want isn't what you want from games and choke on a dick.
>>343241915
Fun is... fun is...
>>343242148
You fucked up when you started talking about the literal atmosphere within a game.
>>343241996
>pulls numbers out of his ass
>THIS is THE METRIC, I have just PROVED IT
I feel sorry for everyone that has to deal with you in real life on a daily basis
>>343242181
But you don't want games. If the most important thing to you is music, then character writing, then design, read a book with architectural drawings while listening to /mu/sic. You'd get a better experience than any game would do for you. You're an idiot.
>Atmosphere
Nearly as bad as "comfy" at this point.
Means absolutely nothing while making it seem like something.
Whats the point in playing a game if the gameplay is shit? You might as well just look up the cutscenes on youtube instead of forcing yourself through a game like that.
If gameplay is king, why does /v/ love Deus Ex, VtMB, Morrowind, and Fallout New Vegas?
Checkmate
>>343242261
Name 1 non-space game that is better than a space game. Go on, I'll wait.
>>343241960
>music
Solid
>character writing
Literally optional
>Level design
Solid
>World building
genre specific
>Art design
Should be WAY higher on the list
>framerate
literally not the game's fault if your framerate is shit
>graphic
This goes hand in hand with art design.
Character writing... jesus fucking christ.
>>343241649
>mistaking atmosphere for gameplay
>actually relying on "muh atmosphere" as an argument and not just an abstract concept that ties with storytelling
>implying games arent just imitations of other mediums without gameplay
you are a complete fucking moron but go ahead and tell us why we're wrong
>>343242271
Stay salty. The point of a video game is that you play it, not that you watch it.
Enjoy being retarded.
hey guys, this game has the most innovative gameplay in years, how are you guys enjoying it?
>>343242423
I mean you're talking about the existence of an atmosphere as part of the world/universe in a game; as in, the gases surrounding a planet.
That's not the atmosphere we're talking about.
>>343236835
No fucking contest. I actually know a few that prefer story over everything. Fuck, a good story is nice, but that isn't the point of videogames.
>>343242375
chess has gameplay, Desu Ex doesn't. King me.
>>343241960
Character writing > story. Even a boring setting with fleshed out interesting characters is awesome. If a story has no interesting characters to react to what's happening then it's boring.
>>343242172
That's a solid point. I guess if a game can just be enjoyable for whatever reason.
Yes, with paintball.
>>343242351
except atmosphere is actually definable. its the aspects of visual and sound design that are tangentially related to the main plot that act as a backdrop for the events that take place
it can be objectively measured by this standard, so it is worth talking about
>>343242375
Because they have good gameplay.
>>343242749
you sunk my battleship
>>343242375
Deus Ex and New Vegas are fun though. Granted they're both exceedingly clunky there are other elements of gameplay that add to them.
>>343242351
It is straight up overused. Atmospheric games are kinda overrated honestly.
>>343242312
Not everyone plays the games for the same reasons, so please continue to chode on dicks since apparently all you care about is efficiency or something.
>fedora brigade comes out defending gameplay
>can't name examples for shit, except tetris and god hand (which is mentioned every other thread)
let's see some examples of games you are currently playing anons
>>343242740
So you're saying that all non-space games are inferior to space games? I don't get what atmosphere you're talking about.
>>343243024
doom 2
>>343243024
megaman zero
>>343236723
no
Atmosphere = Story = Gameplay = Music
Only the best games nail this
>>343243016
did I touch a nerve? I'm sorry you don't know what it's like to play a good video game and enjoy it, since the only thing you care about can be done with other mediums infinitely better. How does it feel to be subpar in all fields? You listen to inferior music while reading about inferior characters while running around in inferior worlds, all because you want to stare at a screen and not have to think too hard. What a sad, pathetic excuse for "I eat shit and enjoy it".
>>343243024
Rogue.
>>343243024
You seem to think that because a good game has a story it means that the game is good because of its story; and not because of its gameplay.
You think this because you're a fucking moron.
>>343243024
Shadow Warrior classic
>>343242375
Because they do all three well
But in the end this is /v/ and not /tv/
I don't care how moving the story is in the end, how deep the characters are, or how rich the lore is, if the game plays like ass I'll just put it down and watch a fucking movie
>>343242858
I always considered atmosphere to just be how well fleshed out and "believable" a game world is. Not that it has to be realistic but that it has to feel like a place that isn't a sterile world or set of rooms for a player to run through. STALKER did a good job at this because of the way NPCs and monsters wander around the map, plus the weather and distant sound effects add to it making the world feel larger.
>>343243024
Been playing DMC3 and the first Quake mission pack, both are pretty much pure gameplay.
>>343241531
>What are some examples of games that are exemplary for the medium for gameplay alone
Bayonetta/DMC
Doom
Most, if not all, of of Nintendo's best games
>>343240919
no u
>>343243024
dmc3 & 4,doom II & plutonia, metal slug series, risk of rain, starbound, hotline miami ,Path of Exile, Dark souls, Warframe, Eye divinite cybermancy..
>>343244530
could you possibly try to fit in harder?
I doubt it
>>343244530
I love Risk of Rain. Kind of wish those guys would make a second one with mods.
>>343244530
>doom II & plutonia
>& plutonia
trying to fit in this hard, if you have ever played doom before you'd be drowning in custom wads by now
atmosphere > gameplay > story
until after I play it, then the story will greatly affect my remembrance of the game, but first I gotta get through it with the good gameplay
>>343244673
sorry for my english.
Duke nukem 3d or N.A.M, also Commandor, Arsenal dark, Yuri revenge has good gameplay.
>>343244673
>>343245127
i played 2 before knowing plutonia existed.
The first time i had played plutonia was on playstation with duke nukem just because a chapter that wasn't included in atomic version.
>>343243024
currently playing total annihilation for the gameplay and sunless sea for the atmosphere
>implying
Super Mario Bros. 4 is perfect.
>>343236723
You know, if atmosphere and story is a lot more important to you, it's fine, I understand.So go read a fucking BOOK.
alright kiddos it's time to stop arguing like little girls and let a real man talk
BIG TITS>BIG TIT LOLIS>LOLIS>grafix>atmosphere
gameplays for chumps
>>343247758
>tfw previous fapping marathon from Yukiu Con, Onizuka Naoshi, and Ponsuke
>tfw now with Shunjou Shuusuke
Can't different games emphasize different things.
Like I enjoyed Limbo. A lot. But there wasn't much there in the form of innovative or exciting gameplay.
>>343236723
atmosphere > it depends
>>343242032
nobody want them to look shit it's just that the current trend for a lot of developers these days is to sacrifice gameplay for graphics
>>343239018
I always loved the gameplay of Kotor 1&2 what was actually wrong with it?
>>343249438
They can, yes. But if we're talking generally, then gameplay should be more important. Story, atmosphere and stuff is more of an icing on the cake.
Limbo... isn't exactly a good example, really, considering that it doesn't have much in the story department either. And the puzzle-platforming is quite fun.
>>343236723
the whole point of a "game " its the gameplay, everything else is there to make it look more appealing
>>343236835
100% agreed.
art style > graphics
This is a fact.
