Thoughts on the upcoming BioShock collection?
Would love to play BS1 and 2 again but I don't like that Infinite is in the collection because it's just an excuse to make it full price.
>>343224110
Is it just me, or does the face of the statue look really cartoony in the remake?
>>343225028
I can't tell if it's bad graphics or if it's supposed to look that way, but the statue in the first looks oxidized and busted up. Looks better because of it.
At max graphics the game haver really good graphics even for todays standards. The illumination still is incredible. Don't really understand the need for a remaster...
At least they should realize some cut content. All games, especialy Bioshock 2, have dozen of areas/enemies/weapons/mechanics that have been cut because of lack time.
>>343224110
>original looks better
Nice
>>343224110
>original looks better
Mostly for next gen consoles.
>>343225251
>Don't really understand the need for a remaster...
Money
>>343225251
>Don't really understand the need for a remaster
Consoles.
>>343224110
The lighting is miles better in the original.
To me it looks like the focal length is more wider making objects close up look skewed.
>>343224110
>Left
>Menacing, powerful
>Right
>I'm really fucking scared right now, my eye is about to roll off
And did they erase his fucking mustache?
Is this industry seriously incapable of remastering a game?
>>343224110
unnecessary, the only way they'll get my money is if it contains substantial amount of new content
>>343224737
>Full price for ports
What the fuck is up with this?
Tomb Raider, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Splinter Cell, Prince of Persia, and plenty of fucking others were priced at like $40 or lower when they launched. Why do they think this is okay?Oh, because retards will still buy it.
>>343224110
So is it 1-3 and infinite?
With all DLCs too?
didn't bioshock 1 have problems even running on windows 7? same as hot shit like fallout 3
i think devs are purposefully making shit now that's designed for a "Remaster" within a scant few years.
that and I think the chinese companies they hire to do these shitty remaster ports are cheap as fuck to utilize, especially compared to actually making new games.
>>343225217
Notice they made the statue look a little slimmer, and even the suit pops out more. I think.
Looks closer to a caricature in the Collection than a modeling of Andrew Ryan (like the Original).
>>343224110
I have all three of the games but only ever played Infinite
Are the other 2 worth a play through?
>>343225415
Nigga what does that have to do with anything
>>343224110
The only collection you should get that has Bioshock is this one
>>343225385
Aren't they wasting more than earning? Like what's stopping people from just buying the original version? Everyone has a computer, even console owners and i'm sure most modern computers can run BioShock 1 and 2 without being gaming pcs.
Is the game even old enough to warrant a collection?
>>343224110
Great, more unnecessary remakes! Just what we need.
First Skyrim and now this?
What is going on
>>343225771
1 is way better than Infinite, 2 is better too but not as good as 1. Infinite is the worst. Fuck yes they are worth playing.
>>343225787
PC's aren't the reason it's be remastered. Like you said it looks fine on max settings. It's consoles. They have iffy backward compatibility and the graphics will be a noticeable upgrade.
Not to mention the casual console audience who would rather replay a known series in higher graphics then try a new one.
>>343225939
don't forget BAMHAM Remastered
>>343224110
First I hear of it and it looks like shit. Judging by this picture they're aiming to make the artstyle of bishock 1 more like infinite and that is fucking retarded.
>>343225787
Are you too slow to figure it out?
>>343225771
Infinite is shit.
1 is good until 2/3 of the way through where they clearly didn't know what to do with the plot.
2 is the best by far.
>>343225858
You're asking this after the Sky rim remaster was announced and people went apeshit to buy a game they already owned and played?
>>343226359
Well, in the case of Skyrim you're receiving something that wasn't in the original game (mods). This is not the case here, or with every other rmaster.
>>343226685
And half of the mods or more won't work like Fallout 4, so you won't actually get anything extra.
>>343224110
>modern remake completely shits on the lighting
every fucking time
I like it
>>343227605
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
WELCOME TO THE CIRCUS OF VALUES!
is this a """"reamster"""" or a compilation?
>>343227605
>that lack of AF
so is this from the remaster or the orignal?
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>>343227795
Go away ken.
>>343227795
What? I swear the original looked better then that.
Or this looks fucking identical.
>>343227795
>Everything still glows for no fucking reason
2/10
>original made specifically for PC hardware
>remake scrap it for a version made to run on all hardwares
>graphics go to shit
>>343227964
Ken doesn't work at Irrational anymore and it is anyone's guess what his contract had for royalties in perpetuity
>>343225826
This.
Unless they are remakes, from the ground up with additional content---I doubt it will be worth the double dip as these titles are only a decade old.
>>343225826
>Triple pack
Infinite doesn't exist
>>343227813
¡Bienvenido al Ammo Bandito!
>removed all light reflections on the walls
>statue face changed for no reason
lel they porbably outsourced it to china just like the arkham 'remasters'
>>343228326
¡MUCHAAAS GRACIAAAAAAAS SENOR!
>>343224110
Misunderstood thumbnail, made this.
>>343224110
Looks worse, as usual.
Sometimes I think about Bioshock Infinite and I just get really fucking mad and my day is legitimately worse from then on. I still love Bioshock 1 and 2, but honestly that makes it worse. The fact that the third one could have been good, even fucking decent.
>>343225858
You're REALLY underestimating the stupidity of some console owners.
2 > 1
>>343225471
>And did they erase his fucking mustache?
Hahaha holy shit you're right.
>>343225826
>dat price
wat
>>343230034
It's a better game, yes. But nothing can recreate the mystery and emotional experience of my first play through of BS1. It was slower and spookier, and for that I prefer it. Shame about the boss fight and abruptness of the ending.
>>343224110
Was Bioshock the first Fedoracore video game?
>>343228901
That one on the right is actually pretty intimidating.
>>343230034
Good fucking taste
>>343224110
Right has a complete lack of bump maps.
>>343225826
How can it be a triple pack if there's only 2 games? Are they giving you 2 copies of one of them? For what purpose?
>>343230237
>emotional experience
like what? The twist?
>>343229829
>/V/ suddenly hates bioshock infinite
W-what?
>>343230237
I didn't mind the boss fight, but everything before it and after the Andrew Ryan cutscene was fucking garbage.
This series is getting a remaster? For what fucking reason it looks perfectly fine and is not even old
a remaster of a 2007 video game running on 2013 hardware, and they are actually removing lighting effects, does that seem right to you?
>>343230575
>/V/
>>343230575
only /vg/ waifufags liked infinite
>>343230575
>Suddenly
>>343225826
>ever buying from Steam
>>343230575
Absolutely nobody liked infinite. Only animefags and cinematicfags did.
>>343230575
>suddenly
A lot of people were shitting on it form the beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
>>343224110
the weapon design is still great in Infinite
>>343227517
>>343227605
>>343227698
>>343227795
None of these matter without side-by-side comparisons
>>343231158
Looks like generic ww2 hand gun
>>343231215
if that handgun were in your favorite game you'd be praising it
did noone here actually realized the "remaster" has been downgraded?
this is bamham all over again
>>343224110
Left looks more like a bronze statue while right looks more like a plastic statue colored in bronze paint.
>>343231158
>2 gun limit
>>343230530
I guess that's a poor choice of words. I meant more the personal experience of exploring Rapture, listening to the logs, finding the small stories of what had happened, all that shit. In 2 you knew it all already, and while there was a new plot to discover the novelty wasn't there.
>>343230034
That isn't even debatable.
2 > 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite
>>343225602
>not understanding quantum mechanics is embarassing
damn
>>343231305
Nobody here is getting suckered in by bad remasters.
We're just talking about the games now.
>>343231267
No I wouldn't because it looks like generic ww2 hand gun
>>343230575
Only retards like infinite
>>343230034
>>343231407
>the least popular game in the series is the most popular on /v/
fuck off
>>343231215
> generic
> WW2
2 strikes my friend
>>343231370
this
fuck the 2 gun limit
they should get rid of it in the "remaster"
>>343230256
Bioshock Infinite and The Last of Us are the essential fedoracore games.
>>343228901
Who would win?
>>343231468
no it doesn't
>>343231525
Anyone with half a brain knows Bioshock 2 was the best.
>>343231687
I have an IQ of 140 and think it's shit
>>343231525
2 is objectively better from gameplay perspective. But it doesn't have the novelty 1 did and nowhere near as good of a story
>>343231525
Bioshock 2 is a victim of circumstance.
>online multiplayer
>looks like a simple cash-in sequel
>made by a completely different studio
It seemed like the smart thing to do was avoid it, but it turned out to be the best in the series if you actually played it.
>>343231773
gameplay can't be objectively better or worse
>>343225028
I think it looks angrier which is better looking in my opinion
>>343231901
Prove me wrong
>>343231719
Man, just imagine how big your IQ would be if you had the other half of your brain.
>>343230667
Yeah.. You might even argue a bright shiny coat of paint will actually ruin the aesthetics of grim and grimy Rapture. In fact, I have a very very strong expectation of that being the case.
>>343231962
I think Bioshock 1 has better gameplay
there, your 'objectivity' no longer exists
>>343224110
>they used fucking money to DOWNGRADE an already released game and then sell it again
i don't anymore man. at worst if you're lazy just give it some sweetfx shit and normies will eat it like cake
But noooooo, you had to scrap things like the fucking statue and then replace it with a fucking plastic one, what the hell
>>343230667
9 years is a long time grandpa
>>343232049
Not an argument
Quantify why
>>343232049
They both do some things well. BS1 does a great job at letting you survey an area and set up for a big daddy fight in any way you choose before starting it up. I liked that. BS2 does a better job at forcing you to improvise on the fly, I thought.
>>343231158
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>>343231540
Oh wow a slightly modified luger, donut steel!
>>343232161
you can't quantity enjoyment of gameplay
>>343231305
In real life rockwalls aren't wet 24/7 and reflect lighting like that. Remaster is more realistic.
>>343232143
but it looks perfectly fine.
>>343231612
My bets are definitely on Nam maN, I don't trust that skinny faced Russian on the left.
>>343224110
can i spit-shine my 10 year old car and sell it for the same price as a brand new car? somebody explain the logic here?
>>343232282
If you can't explain why you think something is better then you should go away
>>343232295
no it doesn't, neither does the remaster though if that pic is legitimate
Should I buy 2 and Minervas Den (haven't played either) or Infinite and Season Pass (just to play the DLCs)?
>>343231454
>>not understanding quantum mechanics is embarassing
>
>damn
No but not understanding it then making it a crucial plot point in any work is embarassing. The same can be said of any subject.
>>343232215
> luger
opinion discarded
>>343225679
I've played both games on W7 without any issue, anon
>>343232401
why should I do that? so we can come to an 'agreement' on which game has superior gameplay?
>>343231719
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>>343231305
The wall is actually made of concrete now.
>>343232502
>why should I do that?
Otherwise you lose an internet argument and that is very embarrassing
>>343227054
>Homeworld remaster is full of bloom
>Cryptic is giving a "face lift" to star trek online causing its lighting to turn into all bloom and brightness in order to make the JJverse ships interiors look proper
>>343232407
2 and Minerva's Den for sure.
>>343232407
2 is great and Minerva's Den is also good, Infinite is shit and so are most of it's DLCs
>tfw I actually liked Infinite more than 1
sorry but the gunplay sucks dick in 1
>>343232407
minerva's den is the best part of bioshock series
>>343232426
Nigger, it had a magazine reload, not a clip reload, it was a luger made to look like the mauser.
>>343232317
>Spit shine
No no no, you should roll over it a film that makes it look matte, then sell it as a remake of a classic.
>>343232638
you're misrepresenting my argument friend
>>343232782
The gunplay is one step better in infinite and every single other aspect of the game is fifty steps back. You've got ultra bad taste my man
>>343232290
rock walls in a lighthouse in the fucking middle of atlantic in a fucking storm can be very wet
>>343232786
>>343232730
>>343232660
That's what I was expecting to hear. Thanks. Shame Minerva's isn't on sale for some reason.
>>343232782
Gunplay is system shock 2 is even worse yet somehow it manages to be even better than bioshock 1 or 2. It's almost like gunplay is not the only thing that matters.
>>343225826
There's only one Bioshock game though.
>>343233078
I may be mistaken, but I think you get it free with Bioshock 2 on steam.
@343232782
go fuck yourself nigger. You've clearly played neither. Gunplay was better in 1.
>>343233078
http://store.steampowered.com/app/244610/
It's 75% off for me.
>>343232803
>That bait
Many variants/knockoffs like the Chinese version had detachable magazines. No the gun in the game isn't exactly like the c96 family but to say it's a luger is retarded
>>343231773
>and nowhere near as good of a story
1 had a good twist. that's it. they had no fucking clue where to take the plot after that and the whole game nosedives after that point.
>>343233235
I got minerva's den and I never bought this.
>>343230034
better daughteru than elizashit
>>343233331
what did 2 have? absolutely nothing
>>343233318
I know, I was bullshitting because I honestly forgot the mauser existed. Sorry /k/
That said, the clip reload is sexy as fuck, so I'm not too upset that I unfairly shat on the Infinite version.
>>343233336
>>343233194
From what I could gather, that was an old promotion.
>>343233235
Showing up for me now too, good shit.
>>343233002
>>343233230
Give a shit, gunplay is the most important thing in a shooter. Either way both games are overrated POS >>343233120
>>343233424
I remember reading this erotic fanfic on /v/ about Subject Delta drilling his daughterfu and other Big Sisters. Shame I'll never find this pasta again.
>>343233424
I like how they handled the endings with her. Bioshock just had YOU GOOD or YOU EBIL.
But 2 actually had your actions in Rapture influence Eleanor's outlook on the world, just like an actual father and daughter.
>>343233562
I think it is very disrespectful that they used the likenesses of recipients of early postwar plastic surgery for their enemies and as such I won't be buying it on principle.
>shittier graphics
>looks like shit
>missing effects
>worse textures
BRAVO PS4
>>343233562
I'm glad you give a shit. Even if gunplay is the most important thing in the game, my argument stands, one step forward and 50 steps back everywhere else equals SHIT FUCKING GAME. And if you think all Bioshock games are shit anyway, leave the thread fag
>>343233647
>Can't handle an opinion
>B-bait!
BioCuck fans everyone
>>343233436
moral choices and a relationship with a character that changes their outlook on the world due to said moral choices. it doesn't reach the same highs as 1, but it doesn't hit the same lows either.
>>343233725
The fact that it doesn't represent BBW like me is triggering, I will join you on your peaceful protest,you're bringing food to the protest right?
>removed weaved texture on banner making it look like a flat surface
>completely changed the statue which before looked like a proper bronze statue with textures and proper lighting, and now just looks like a 3D model with a color slapped on
>lighting and textures on wall removed and replaced with muddy smears
Am I missing something here? What the fuck?
Just play the PC versions. They're discounted right now on Steam. And there's a mod to unlock the framerate cap for physics in the first game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNRgX93TCc
>>343233806
But Infinite wasn't one step forward, it was one step sideways and 3 steps backwards. Gunplay in 1 was better than in Infinite in many ways, especially ammo-related. It's nowhere near as satisfying using the weapons in Infinite.
>>343233815
>have shitty opinions
>"y-you cuck!"
Epic
>>343233896
you missed something
>remaster removes Andrew Ryan's moustache
>>343233932
didnt 2 have the same cap too?
>>343233896
Yes, you're missing that the lights in the remake aren't lluminating anything while they are casting light on the surrounding surfaces in the original.
HOW HAS NOBODY POINTED OUT THE FUCKING CLIPPING IN A STATIC OBJECT YET?
>>343234301
I think that's just supposed to be wear, not clipping.
>>343234301
I thought it was clipping too. But it looks like it's actually tears in the banner.
>>343234301
That's pretty clearly a cut in the banner.
>>343234039
See, I agree with you. I was simply conceding to that other anon for the sake of simplicity. For instance, technically the aiming feels slightly better in infinite, but that doesn't really matter when the guns themselves are fucking retarded, trying to enjoy multiple armaments actively punishes you as a player, and the late game introduces dumbass "better" versions of guns you already have but that aren't upgraded and are therefore STILL worse than the guns they're intended to replace. Infinite MAKES ME SO MAD
>>343234301
>clipping
nigger wtf are you blind
>>343234301
nigga do u have autism
>>343234151
Yeah, but apparently this fix only works for the first game.
>>343234301
I believe most people have realized that its a tattered material from general neglect
>>343233424
Can everyone just stop fighting over which game is better and post more cute Elanor and Delta?
At this point they're just trying to see how dumb people are. That is the only logical answer I can find.
Werent the bioshock devs working on a new game, what was it?
>>343234301
being this retarded
Infinite was worse than DNF.
>>343234881
i don't know what dnf is and i agree
ill buy it cuz im a gullible fuck and i love the series
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>>343234726
But I just wanted to be popular and complain too.
Thanks for the (You)s though, they were delicious.
>>343234951
Duke Nukem Forever
>bioshock comes out
>thinking it's awesome and a great fucking game
>system shock veterans call it mediocre and dumbed down.
>Infinite comes out
>think it fucking sucks and is a huge step down from Bioshock 1 and 2
>games media loves it for muh story and muh strong female
the year bioshock infinite came out, i found out what system shock players mean, i also realized to be more careful with preorders.
>>343235037
i don't agree
>>343235154
You can play system shock right now and see what they mean.
>>343226042
It's been delayed indefinitely or until the Chinks/Gooks make a good remake. That is to say it's dead.
>>343235179
Play both back to back and you'll see one is a shitty CoD clone and one is a shitty HL2 clone.
>>343233130
Why is it called Bioshock 2? Was there a first one?
Why do you say that 2 gun limit is bad?
>>343234510
All I have is this shitty screenshot of Eleanor's butt.RIP in peace Sinclair ;_;7
>>343235746
>why are limits bad
gee i don't know
>>343235293
Why though? It couldn't be too much effort from what we've seen of it so far.
>>343235179
At least DNF had Jon st. John in top form with Duke's voice.
>>343235746
Because they had limited weapons and occasionally force you to use what they want while also having weapon upgrades so some will always be better than others.
There'd be less of an issue it they either kept the weapon wheel and let players choose, or drop the upgrades altogether and force the player to run and gun swapping weapons by necessity.
They are in this fucked up middle ground
>>343235878
>Why is forcing you to make decisions bad
>>343236070
are you retarded lad
>>343232426
Hell yeah the Red9, mother fucker.
My fav gun in RE4 that's not an OP weapon.
>>343236210
No, but I guess you have autism.
Enough of /v/ for today, time to sleep.
>>343236338
>having options is autism
this is the most /v/ post i've read all summer
Literally can't wait
>>343236415
Just why. Bioshock looks alright still. If they're going to do a remaster they should be bringing it into line with modern releases. High res lighting/shadowing/particle effects etc.
Not just change the fucking lighting and call it a day, especially when the lighting was perfect to begin with and the new product is less atmospheric because of it.
>>343224110
>remaster
>it looks worse than the original game
>>343236707
I'd argue the only real thing wrong were the models' being pretty ugly.
But if you change them it might kill the aesthetic.
honestly just leave 7th gen games alone.
>>343235746
>Forced to drop weapons when they run out of ammo
>Upgrades are useless since you can't predict wich guns the game is going to throw at you
>Most weapons get a Vox variant halfway through th game thus further diminishing the chances of getting a weapon you have invested on
On top of that, all weapons are underwhelming since bulletsponge enemies can tank multiple headshots and there are no exotic weapons this time around: No worm launcher, no chem thrower, no lazer, no nothing.
Surprised this thing hasn't been posted yet...
>>343236707
Some of the geometry in OP's image looks altered.
Maybe they'll do a decent job at it.
>>343237024
Thats way worse though, we still have the originals, that Jesus image was fucked forever.
>>343235278
That it aged like milk? Yeah
>>343238667
>Not liking cheese
>>343236415
Change "Man" to "People" for maximum inclusiveness.
>>343238667
System shock 2 works perfectly fine. SS1 remaster isnt bad either.
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