Why haven't we made a new one of these?
Could personally guarantee Dark Souls 1/SOTFS/3 and Fallout New Vegas being top 10
Switch Ocarina of Time and Deus Ex and this list would be spot on.
>team fortress 2
consider me chrono triggered
>>343212287
Because the top 3 by now would be something like:
>Hyperdimension Neptuna Re:RebootEX HyperDrift Cameltoe 2
>Senran Kagura: Tits Argue
>Overwack
The list seems fine for a top 100. Seems like if it were to be updated, people would plague the list with a bunch of indie FOTM shit.Not to mention that a good number of Wii U titles would end up on this list, and people would get mad because they haven't played those games.
>>343212287
>no kotor 2
As long as Bloodborne is #1 then I'm happy.
>>343212442
>Switch Ocarina of Time and Mother 3 and this list would be spot on
Fixed
>>343212712
I'd be okay with WiiU titles being on the list, as long as they aren't overhyped. For example, Splatoon can never be higher than Team Fortress, since one is locked to console DRM and doesn't allow KBM controls, both of which completely ruin FPS games.
Rocket League deserves to be on there desu
>>343212287
Splatoon needs to be on there
But someone did. Morrowind and Majora's Mask were at the top of the list
No I didn't save it, fuck you
>>343212931
In Splatoon's case, I'd argue that the gyro controls offer plenty of accuracy, more than enough for the giant gobs of ink flung everywhere. It's not a KBM setup, but it's the best that console shooters have to offer.
>>343213420
>It's not a KBM setup,
That's all I needed to hear. It made my attempts to enjoy the game miserable. It just can't compare to a KBM, and the tens of thousands of hours that I've used it. It doesn't help that the gamepad forces me to look down if I want to superjump or look at the map. And I'm not allowed to map that to my screen or alter the UI in any way without causing myself a headache. That's too restrictive.
>>343212287
There was one made just this year. It's pure garbage though and was probably samefagged to hell.
>Half Life 2 is better than Half Life
>Fallout 3 being on the list at all
Half Life 2 was influential no doubt, innovative, but it's mechanically boring, not fun to replay, and far less imaginative when it comes to weapon design than Half Life 1.
Also Fallout 3 is god awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
>>343213854
Hold on friend. You're gonna need this.
>>343212287
It's time for an update. Nuclear throne should be included, imho.
>>343213586
I understand that the gamepad is a novel setup for damn near everyone who's played Splatoon. There's a similar dual stick structure when playing without gyro controls, but anyone worth their salt has taken the gyro controls for the added control over their cursor. I understand that it may be a problem for you to use these controls after spending thousands of hours using a different control scheme, but that is an issue which you personally experience and does not speak for players on the whole.
And the map is on the bottom screen so that the UI doesn't hide anything from the player on the TV. In a game where even the most trivial inkspot could house someone out to kill you, the responsibility of dying should always be in the player's hands. Looking at the map is hardly a necessity aside from immediately after respawning, and you're already in a safe zone when that happens. If you don't want to look down at the gamepad, you can always lift it to your face and read the map from their. It only takes one button to center the reticle.
I don't want to say your complaints aren't valid, but they seem entirely personal and don't reflect on how the majority of the player base views the controls.
>>343212712
>complaining about FOTM shit
>when the list was made within the month that the Dark Souls pc port was released
>>343212287
Bloodlines should be no.1
Mgs3 is shit and mgs2 isnt even on the list?
This list is a joke, made by a pleb
>>343214712
That explains why DS is so high up on the list. At least it is a good game.
>>343214701
>everyone likes it, therefore you have to like it too
Stopped reading there. Next time please use an argument not based around a strawman. I would heartfully appreciate it.
>>343215089
Not an argument.
>>343212287
>mass effect 2
>>343215089
Maybe you should refer to the OP if you're complaining about not liking games that everyone else does.
As long as Xenogears is included
>>343214701
>There's a similar dual stick structure when playing without gyro controls, but anyone worth their salt has taken the gyro controls for the added control over their cursor.
Still not as accurate as a mouse, and is 500% more unwieldly than your average mouse. You can't get a grip and thus it's uncomfortable.
>And the map is on the bottom screen so that the UI doesn't hide anything from the player on the TV.
That's my choice to make, not the game's choice. IF I want the map on the TV, the game's job is to give it to me, than be thankful for the opportunity to improve my experience.
>In a game where even the most trivial inkspot could house someone out to kill you, the responsibility of dying should always be in the player's hands
Then why remove options from me, like the ability to customize my UI, or use a controller of my choosing?
>If you don't want to look down at the gamepad, you can always lift it to your face and read the map from their. It only takes one button to center the reticle.
And again, why cant I just remap the map to a place I want it? Why do I need the gamepad again? Where's my agency in this and my decision to use a controller of my choosing?
>I don't want to say your complaints aren't valid, but they seem entirely personal and don't reflect on how the majority of the player base views the controls.
Majority, you say? Because 10 million people would rather play Overwatch on the PC with KBM controls, as opposed to the maybe 50,000 still playing Splatoon? Majority isn't the best argument here.
>>343215089
You professed to spending thousands of hours using one control scheme and the inability to learn a second one. I fail to see how this isn't a personal problem which you hold against all console shooters.
>>343215336
The OP? Where Team Fortress 2 and Deus Ex are at the top of the list, while there isn't a single gamepad game there? Im not sure where your argument is going.
There was one made back in January.
>>343215527
I never said I didn't want to learn. I just said it was inferior to KBM, and when I'm paying for the game, I can't tolerate something that can't live up to the standards that I've become accustomed to. Is this not fair, when I'm the one shelling out money for these games?
It's just like Kid Icarus: Uprising. I can put the time in to learn the controls, but at the end of the day, it can't compare to KBM. Ever.
>>343214881
>Bloodlines should be no.1
game which goes to shit in the last 1/3 and has terrible gameplay should not be anywhere near #1
>>343215546
This list predates the Wii U.
I meant in the context that if you were looking to complain about the "everyone likes it, so you should too" argument, there's a Top 100 list in the OP which reflects that very argument.
>>343212287
>no stalker games
>>343212287
>SOTFS
>3
Not a fucking chance.
>>343215639
>that top 10
Holy shit. A fucking ace attorney game in top 10? The old list wasn't perfect but it was respectable. That list is pitiful.
>>343215639
>4 cinematic experiences in the top 10
Wow, this list is just wrong on so many levels.
>>343215639
>11. to 21. are a better top 10 then the actual top 10
>>343215825
care to point them out
all that list is just obvious nintendrone shit
>>343215639
Nintendo shitposter edition
>>343216119
I'll do you one better. I just crossed off the cinematic experience movie games.
The problem is that people will always nitpick out stuff and /v/ as a whole is more cynical the usual with people like >>343215825 and others. It's hard to make a list, other then to make one of those tournament chart things and have the results be the list, and even then it's not a actual list.
>>343212287
>999 isn't number 99
>>343212287
>/v/s top games
>God Hand doesnt follow right after Deus Ex
>people think Pokemans is better than any other game on that list
>>343216514
Is there something that makes DMC3 and the Bayonetta games more of a cinematic experience than MGS3 and Max Payne?
Also Mother 3 is a far more linear, narrative-heavy RPG than some of the FF games you crossed off.
>>343215452
The player base as in Splatoon's player base. I'm not talking about other shooters when I'm talking about how people play Splatoon.
Splatoon's design philosophy was to drop a player into a game as quick as possible, while keeping the playing field in clear sight. The developers sought to streamline the UI in a number of ways, not to give the player customizable UI. It's a notable tradeoff, I agree with you, but this game was not made to give players control over UI and controller settings. But not every game requires the controls to be remapped, and for a game so clearly designed with the gamepad in mind there isn't much that can be done.
Again, I don't want to trivialize your complaints, as I'm sure a number of people have their worries, but what you're expecting is outside the scope of the game's design.
>>343216927
Oh, whoops. No, they're not more cinematic than MGS3 and Max Payne. I actually forgot to cross those off.
>Also Mother 3 is a far more linear, narrative-heavy RPG than some of the FF games you crossed off.
I counted the cutscenes, and they're far below FFs average cinematic times. Itoi was better at not wasting time with the story.
>>343217040
>Splatoon's design philosophy was to drop a player into a game as quick as possible, while keeping the playing field in clear sight.
Which is something I find odd, because almost any other shooter does it better.
>Again, I don't want to trivialize your complaints, as I'm sure a number of people have their worries, but what you're expecting is outside the scope of the game's design.
That's why I consider the game too limited. It's just like Overwatch and how we're not allowed to have custom servers that don't adhere to Blizzard being a bunch of fun police. Can't mod the game, change the tickrate, or do anything unless they say so.
give Valve some credit, despite the hats and reskins and awkward balance issues, TF2 still gives the player complete and total freedom.
>>343216927
Mother 3's longest cutscene is probably shorter then the attack animations seen in later final fantasies.
>>343217419
Mother 3's opening cutscene was long enough to make me lose all interest
>>343216514
>Crossing out Ghost Trick
I thought Neo /v/ was a myth.
>>343217103
do you actually play game?
>>343215639
>SJ and Persona 4 are both high than Nocturne
call me triggered
>>343217525
That's why it doesn't deserve top spot and should probably be put lower.
See, that's a common trapping of modern RPGs, thinking you need a huge story to be good, when your gameplay can carry you just fine. but everyone's gotten accustomed to sitting around and watching pre-teen crybabies whine about their emotions and feelings. Games like Undertale and Xenoblade and Final Fantasy are the Steven Universe of video games: relying on emotions and crying and touchy feely stuff to get across emotion, instead of having good gameplay and character building based on that.
>>343217752
I play alot of games, which is why I crossed out the movies on the list.
>>343217525
Are you sure don't have ADD anon? It definitely wasn't that bad.
>>343217279
Better how? As far as I know, Splatoon's got one of the fastest times between looking for a game and starting a game, since loadout, map selection and game mode are selected prior to finding a lobby unless you're playing with friends.
I will give TF2 credit, because I still believe that it did a lot of good for team based shooters, but it's unfair to set the design standards of a game seven or so years in development on every game which follows.
>>343212287
>DooM so far in the list
>Fallout 3 in the list at all
Come one. You could switch H2 and Doom to start with.
>>343216514
>crossing out ff tactics
you're not being helpful
>>343217980
>Better how? As far as I know, Splatoon's got one of the fastest times between looking for a game and starting a game, since loadout
How fast is it? I haven't seen the game for at least a year (lost interest). Curious to see how fast it takes from starting up the WiiU to being in a match.
>but it's unfair to set the design standards of a game seven or so years in development on every game which follows.
Nintendo has ten times the budget and the development team that Valve had, so I think it's a fair assessment.
for comparison
>>343212287
here's what I've played
>>343213054
No.
>>343212287
>Bioshock above System Shock 2
True patrician taste.Both games are great
>no Gothic 1 or 2
what the fuck? Someone wanna tell me why?
The answer for why we haven't made a new one is because nobody wants to deal with that many retards.
>>343218384
>pokemon number 1
>>343212287
Was going to bitch about the list (even though top charts are always shit) but seeing Nier and Nocturne in there softened my heart
>>343216514
>crosses off W101
Hello Doug.
If you browse reddot you're a fag and should kys
>Deus EX is the best video game of all time
But it's shit? Aged like fucking mincemeat
>>343218785
>cinematics everywhere
>unnecessary voice acting
>controls are uncomfortable when compared to a KBM setup
>cringeworthy humor
>quick time events
Alot of elements I can't get behind mate. You can understand.
>Half Life 2 above Half Life
Garbage list
>>343219026
Why didn't you cross off Deus Ex? It has over 2 hours of dialogue.
>>343212287
Because it's rather difficult to make a better one, and if you consider that TF2 is based on the older version not the F2P one, it's not even really that dated.
>>343219173
I've actually never played Deus Ex. If it does, I'll cross it off too. From what I Saw on /v/, it felt too much like a meme game.
>omg JC le bomb XD!
Looked pretty cringeworthy.
>>343218987
>it aged like mincemeat
UT and Half life came out before it and they both control better than most Modern games. the graphics and controls were always bad. Its good parts were good enough to get people to overlook it then just like now
>>343218395
>mass effect 2
>tf2
>no kotor 2
>>343219327
Hella epic post broseph. But how do we up vote each other here?
>>343212287
Holy shit nigger, this bait couldn't be more obvious.
>>343218301
>How fast is it? I haven't seen the game for at least a year (lost interest). Curious to see how fast it takes from starting up the WiiU to being in a match.
I don't know about how long it takes from console startup, but once the game is booted up it takes two seconds to hop into online play modes, either one or two button presses to pick a mode, and then however much time it takes to find a match and seven other players. The matchmaking is still pretty quick from what I've noticed, usually less than five seconds to find a game and another five to fill out the roster. Obviously I don't have a statistical distribution on the time it takes, but it's fast about 95% of the time.
>Nintendo has ten times the budget and the development team that Valve had, so I think it's a fair assessment.
Nintendo would not invest more than what's necessary into a new IP on a dead console, whereas TF2 was and has been one of Valve's evergreen titles.
>>343219327
>ACfag hasn't even played Deus Ex
Weird, its a toaster compatible game. The only kind of games your poor ass can play.
>>343219327
Upvoted, m'sir
>>343212287
Because /v/ gets saltier and larger by the year.
It'd be hell getting the board to do something like this and take it seriously now.
None of these are in order, right?
>not even a max payne game
>>343219594
>The matchmaking is still pretty quick from what I've noticed,
I actually timed it myself with TF2. It takes seconds to find a match, even for a 10 year old game. So Splatoon is still behind the rest of the class.
>Nintendo would not invest more than what's necessary into a new IP on a dead console,
Then you never saw the Splatoon marketing campaign.
>>343219327
>it felt too much like a meme game
Rocket League, Splatoon, and Overwatch all deserve spots on there
>we do a new one this year
>Undertale gets number 1 ironically
the assmad would be palpable
>>343212287
Deus ex really? I bounce after I start first mission. I get rekt by some flying shit.
>>343212287
because neo-/v/ has shit taste
Kotor 2, new vegas, morrowind, deus ex, VtMB
These are required in the top 15 for a list to have any credibility
Is this a cringe thread ?
>HL 2 top 10
>Tetris
>Pokemon at all
>multi games like CS 1.6 but no gold age MMORPG
>some games clearly missing
Nobody can make a top 100 on /v/ and get everyone to approve it. But this one, it's like OP didn't even try.
>>343219847
no meme games allowed
>>343220201
Every game is might as well be a meme. Just an idea that your computer can turn into lights and sounds
>>343219767
When did you start and stop timing? From clicking "Find a match" all the way to spawn? Including the time it takes to load in assets? I guess Splatoon takes another ten seconds after the map appears before the player is given control, but I'm willing to guess that the map load times in TF2 on top of character selection make up more time than that.
The Splatoon marketing campaign is where most of the budget of the game went into. Nintendo actually spent money on marketing and it paid off.
>>343220115
Whats wrong with Tetris
>>343220312
>Every game is might as well be a
>>343215639
>portal is better than mgs3
>witcher 3 is better than mgs3
>fucking Pokemon is better than mgs3
>metal gear rising at 73
>fucking pokemon is on the list at all
Im PISSED
>>343220361
Let's see, from computer beginning to playing TF2, it takes around 1:30 in minutes. That includes steam + application startup, server selection, map selection, and spawning. This also includes the fact that I chose from one of my favorite custom servers which has alot of unique assets not in vanilla TF2.
Overall, not bad for a 10 year old game running on a toaster.
>>343220382
Nothing, it's just not a game that could clame to be better than 100 all time other games. Same for pokemon, they're nice games, but they don't belong in top 100.
>>343220735
claim*
>>343219902
We did get one this year dumbass.
See >>343215639
>>343220870
clam*
>>343220605
I just times what it took for me to enter a match in Splatoon. It took 20 seconds from hitting "Lobby" in the menu all the way to finding 8 players and switching to the map. Then an additional 16 seconds to load the map, show an opening cinematic, and shift the camera to my player to begin the match. The time it takes to start up Splatoon from the Wii U quick menu was around 50 seconds, but that's a one time boot up when most matches will not be played immediately after start up. This is extraordinary compared to many shooters, maybe not directly to TF2, but that speaks more about how good TF2 is.
>>343222051
>maybe not directly compared to TF2
But that's the thing. If you want me to consider Splatoon worthy enough to tolerate the gamepad, it has to beat EVERY SINGLE SHOOTER, even TF2.
If even one can outclass it in loading times or performance, then it's not worth the hassle. And I just did another test on a vanilla server. Took about 10 seconds from the main menu to playing the game. So It's pretty embarassing how far behind Splatoon is.
>Ico nowhere to be seen
>Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne this low
>all this Nintendo bias
>>343215639
>59. Fallout New Vegas
>>343212287
When was this version of the "/v/'s top 100" list made? To me it looks like it's from 2011 or 2012.
>total annihilation
>no forged alliance
>EU3 but not HoI3
Witcher 3 > all. It is not that hard.
But /v/ is full of contrarion nostalgiafags that can only like old games.
>>343212931
Thankfully one of those isn't an FPS.
X-com: UFO Defense. Not in top 10, and is a genere defining game.
Mother 3 is fun. But not top 10 fun, would replace it for civ IV given that chrono trigger covers jrpg
While y like VtM: Bloodlines is ultimately a broken game which should not be on top.
Would replace team fortress 2 for UT99 or quake 3.
10/10 bait.
>>343224486
>UT99 or Quake 3
As a TF2 fan, I wholeheartedly agree. PC arena shooters just have that fun to them that even TF2 couldn't quite capture.
>>343212287
Replace TF2 with Overwatch and Morrowind with Skyrim and its gold
>>343220470
>'muh muh mgs3'
>pokemon is bad
>>343221015
Can you show us one without the nintendogaf seal of approval?
>>343220735
Any particular reasons?
It's a simple game but its simplicity is a benefit to it. It has a nearly universal appeal and addiction, and the better versions are it are arguably the best puzzle games out there.
I'm not the worlds biggest fan of Tetris but I think a version of it deserves a place on any top 100 list. People call it a flawless game for a good reason.
>>343224663
Too obvious bruh.
>>343215665
It's pathetic to even think about that while playing on any console/handheld. Most games wont have KBM support, and it's a given, and it's utterly pointless to complain about it.
Enjoy Dark Souls with KBM?
>>343213993
damn
>>343225417
Not him, but simplicity is only a good thing if you do something with it. Tetris is nice in its simplicity, but replayability is actually kinda low in this day and age, and compared to many other replayable games, it's a little lower.
>>343219327
the epitome of neo /v/ stands before us
Is the original Deus Ex actually that good or just nostalgia bullshit?
>>343225592
>It's pathetic to even think about that while playing on any console/handheld. Most games wont have KBM support, and it's a given, and it's utterly pointless to complain about it.
Not an argument. If you want me to consider your games good, then you can't hide behind bad hardware, especially if other games are perfectly content with using the KBM. If you're a console exclusive that can never use a KBM, then your job should be to try and be as good, or try and make a control scheme that's just as good. But you can't sacrifice your standards.
>Enjoy Dark Souls with KBM?
Never played the series with a controller. So...
>>343225927
Its actually amazing outside of some unintentionally funny voice acting for minor NPCs and the tranquilizer being near useless (might be a positive for some since it makes the game harder).
>>343225927
Both
>>343225927
I'm trying to get into it right now as per the suggestions in this thread, but it's really slow and it has WAY too much story. It's bordering on a cinematic experience right now.
>>343225995
why do pcucks like you get so mad about using a controller is it because they don't have cool LEDs and razer branding or something
seriously pc users have used controllers for a long time but you few retards seem incapable of doing so
>>343226381
The first mission is notoriously shit, its got quite a bit of dialogue as well but a lot of it is optional.
>>343226381
>muh cinematic
please be bait
>>343225995
I was hardly arguing, just making a point that being so incredibly stubborn and unable to adapt is just dumb.
>Never played the series with a controller. So...
So did you enjoy playing with KBM?
>>343225927
I played it for the first time ever earlier this year and had a great time, even in the first mission.
>>343223341
Never did I say that Splatoon was better than TF2. My claims were that it's quick and easy to get into the meat of the game, and the controls and UI are streamlined to meet that expectation. The gamepad controls have been lauded by both critics and casuals who've gotten their hands on it, and the fact that you say such people have to "tolerate" those controls suggests that you haven't played the game at all and are hung up on your PC controls that you've used for the past decade or so. Nevermind all of the console shooters like Halo and Call of Duty where players must sit in a lobby waiting to vote on maps or to select loadouts, no, let's just focus on how Splatoon can only be a good game by being better than TF2.
Clearly this game isn't meant for you or your standards. But that doesn't make the game shit just because you don't like it. Keep having fun with TF2.
>>343226568
Its ACfag dude, he's literally insane and has been calling anything with exactly 2 hours or more of cutscenes cinematic experiences for years.
>>343226473
Don't get me wrong, if I have to use a controller, I will, and often I'll use a controller if my KB is worn out from over-use. However, when it comes to a shooter, you can't replace a KBM. I genuinely can't find a controller that would suit better.
>>343226598
>just making a point that being so incredibly stubborn and unable to adapt is just dumb.
The point isn't that I couldn't adapt. It's that I don't want to. You can't ask me to use a new control scheme that doesn't offer me anything in terms of benefits, especially if it requires tradeoffs. For example, because Splatoon doesn't use KBM, you can't choose your own maps, you can't map out your own UI, you can't make your own maps, you can't make good quality private servers without jumping through hoops, matchmaking is screwed up, and apparently the WiiU can't even handle voice chat which is why they couldn't include it. See how all of that together can be really limiting?
>did you enjoy playing with KBM
When I play with KBM, it fits like a glove.
>>343212931
I think Splatoon shouldn't be ranked over TF2, but that's not why. Gyro controls are very very good. I played with analog sticks for dozens of hours before making the switch to what I thought was a meme, but it honestly works great and is very accurate.
However, kb+m will obviously be more accurate. I think the game was really well done, but I wish it shipped with the content it has now. If you look back to when it first launched it was a joke.
Looking forward to Splatoon 2 whenever it comes out on the NX. I hope they can manage to streamline the game and give it more potential for a competitive following. They tried to do it with Squads and stuff but they really fell flat with it. It's such a unique game it's a shame that it falls to obscurity cause of low content at launch and it being on a dead system.
>>343226797
Not that guy but I think this is one of first times I've seen him, and I fully understand his notoriety now.
>>343226868
>if my KB is worn out from over-use.
Oh, you had me going for a while. Good show.
>>343226970
He usually shits up Bayonetta threads and just about any Kamiya thread.
>>343226790
>My claims were that it's quick and easy to get into the meat of the game, and the controls and UI are streamlined to meet that expectation.
The problem is that TF is even better at matchmaking and getting into the game, and it doesn't need to restrict you and take away your freedoms as a user. It shouldn't be necessary in Splatoon.
>The gamepad controls have been lauded by both critics and casuals who've gotten their hands on it,
The same people who think games need a "skip gameplay" button, so they're not trustworthy in the slightest. You can see why I instantly discard any arguments based on popularity.
>Nevermind all of the console shooters like Halo and Call of Duty where players must sit in a lobby waiting to vote on maps or to select loadouts,
Fortunately I don't defend those games. I think they're cheap, lazy, poorly optimized cash-ins with weak controls. You won't find me praising them anytime soon.
>But that doesn't make the game shit just because you don't like it.
I don't think it's "shit" but I don't think it deserves the praise it gets.
>>343216514
>Crossing Out Ghost Trick
>Crossing out Pokรฉmon
This is just big b8, the guy just crossed off games he didn't like people liking,
>>343226868
>The point isn't that I couldn't adapt. It's that I don't want to.
This is all I needed to read. Note what I said before I said you couldn't adapt.
>When I play with KBM, it fits like a glove.
Oh boy, someone actually saying that Dark Souls with KBM 'fits like a glove'. You literally haven't played Dark Souls or are just blatantly lying.
>>343226936
I own Splatoon, so I can tell you first hand that i just can't consider it good, so the praise again falls flat on me. People say it's well done, but I just don't see it. Every thread that has ever popped up quickly devolved into memes and squid porn, so that speaks poorly of the game.
>>343217656
>Ghost trick is 6 years old
Fuck Me. This game doesn't get mentioned enough in neo /v/ nowadays
>>343227253
>Oh boy, someone actually saying that Dark Souls with KBM 'fits like a glove'.
I've beaten games like Cave Story, through Hell sanctuary, with nothing but a keyboard. So contrary to your claims, I'm pretty good at adapting to control schemes.
>>343227064
>>343227038
>>343226970
>stop disliking my favorite game
Yeesh. I'm genuinely sorry. Some people have differing tastes.
>Resident Evil 1 Remake not even in the top 100
List fucking discarded holy shit. REmake is the closest we've ever gotten to a legitimate 10/10 game.
>>343227313
>Every thread that has ever popped up quickly devolved into memes and squid porn, so that speaks poorly of the game.
No it doesn't, and I'm not even going to point out why because it's so obvious and you are so stupid.
>>343212287
The lack of fighting games weirds me out. Not even Street Fighter II is on there?
>>343227313
I think the community is ass. The threads on this board and when /ink/ was still a thing were terrible. It was exclusively squid porn.
I thought the game was unique and fun. I think I might have just enjoyed it since it was so colorful and unique and I'm a sucker for stuff that's different, even if it's not the best. Only reason I still support Nintendo ow. Every now and then they do something different and it works great. Most of the time, however, it turns out shit. (eg whatever the fuck they turned Mario Party into)
to each his own, I definitely see why people don't like it but I think I might just be a sucker for stuff Ninty does and that might just be why I like it so much.
>>343215639
>no HoM&M of any kind but shit like annual Nintendo shovelware and all even shitty mgs games are
shit taste
>>343227613
I definitely won't hold it against you for liking Splatoon. I'm not one to censor opinions. My only goal was to try and reasonably explain why I didn't like it.
Kinda hard to keep my cool too when the last 3 TF2 threads I was in were bombarded by Overwatch and Splatoon shitposters sagebombing the threads. So it didn't reflect well on how I considered the communities.
>>343219327
This troll is making me more triggered than a tumblrite having a conversation with a doctor
>>343227528
What the fuck, of course you can play Cave Story with a keyboard, the game was designed on PC first you mongoloid. Dark Souls was ported to PC after a console release, and as such the controls of the game were adapted from consoles. Everything's cluttered as hell on the keyboard and the lack of analog sticks hurts character movement.
>>343216309
It was voted, not compiled by a fanboy you summerfag
>>343212287
>TFW I only like 17 games on this list...
>>343227581
/v/ sucks at fighting games, and doesn't understand them.
>>343227528
Yes, I too have played through Cave Story with nothing but KB, I haven't beat the secret last boss though. You see, Dark Souls has the most god-fucking-awful KBM controls that there ever is. It was made for consoles, and the port was rushed and From literally hadn't developed a PC game before then - the controls are shit, they are absolute shit and playing KBM just because you are such a stubborn moron is doing nothing but neutering your fun of playing the game. Can you HONESTLY (honestly, you know, not lying) say there was NOTHING wrong with playing Dark Souls with KBM? Because I seriously think it is impossible for someone who has actually tried both control schemes to put their hand over their heart and say 'Yes, Dark Souls is better with KBM.' But I forget, you said you hadn't played it with a controller, so do yourself a favor (but judging from your previous show of stubbornness I don't think you will) and play Dark Souls with a controller.
>>343227535
I found no Resident Evil at all to be pretty surprising. 1 and 3 are my personal favorites, but not even 4 is on there (unless I've gone blind).
>>343212287
"We" did, though it was literally just about 50 people pushing their tastes repeatedly. Someone else can post that clusterfuck that came out of it.
>>343228271
I just looked up From's games and I am actually wrong, they had developed Ninja Blade for PC too. Still, the inexperience on that platform shows in Dark Souls' port.
>>343227804
Since you mentioned it, what is up with all the TF2 hate? I can't fathom why someone would get so butthurt over TF2 besides maybe being upset at valve for the CS:GO tier weapon reskins. It's not even like there are that many TF2 shitposters inside Overwatch threads. There's maybe 1 or 2 of them tops but it's such obvious bait and it's not really that prevalent.
I bought Overwatch about 2 weeks ago and am loving it. However, it's not going to change the hundreds of hours I poured into TF2 and I can guarantee you I won't pour half as much into Overwatch. TF2 is still a great game, and even if you don't think so, it should be respected for what it was during it's prime and what it did for the genre. Hell, it was a towering beast that took a fucking decade to finally have any competition, and even then TF2 still has a very strong playerbase.
So much nostalgia in this thread.
So much hate for new games
So many shitty jRPGs lmao.
No legit multiplayer
GTA4 but no GTA5
top kek
>>343228912
dont reply to this
>>343228271
>>343227962
You guys clearly have never played Armored Core before if you think Dark Souls has awkward controls. That game is basically "From has no idea how to use a controller: the game".
Compared to that, Dark Souls on PC is a cakewalk. Maybe other people can use a controller better, that's a possibility. Still, I don't see anything wrong.
>>343229115
>Complains that Splatoon's gyro controls must be tolerated
>Says there's nothing wrong with Dark Soul's KBM controls when other PC games have it worse
Go ahead, keep shifting the goalposts. It's not healthy for me to stay upset about the things you say.
>>343229115
>This game's controls are worse so that makes this game's controls fine.
No
>>343229115
Maybe you should actually try Dark Souls with a controller before touting that FromSoft 'can't use a controller' and that 'Maybe other people can use a controller better' you idiot. It isn't 'maybe', this is objective fucking fact: everybody (who actually trys it (ie: not you)) can play it with controller better. I have played a small amount of AC5:VD and it controlled fine, I certainly don't look back on my admittedly small playtime with disgusts for the controls, not at all.
>>343213854
Yeah take Fallout 3 off the list and replace it with one of the Street Fighter games.
>>343229463
What in the goddamn hell is going on in that gif?
>>343212287
There's not a single arcade game or racing game in any of these lists. Nothing but roleplaying experience shit.
No one here actually plays games. Why bother?
>>343212287
>3
nice try
>>343230718
racing games are shit
shut your fuck nerd
>>343212287
Where's Madden NFL 2005 and Tecmo Bowl?
The 2 greatest football games in existence?
What about NBA 2K2 and Virtua Tennis? Or Sega Rally Championship? Or Robotron?
>secret of mana edging in at 100
>but no Seiken Densetsu 3
U wot
>>343231228
football games are good but they aren't innovative game play wise
this thread is useless. if you want to update the list then do several votes like we did when the image was made
>>343231445
What do you mean?
Madden NFL 2005 is the closest we've gotten to true simulation football in games
>>343231747
>replicating something that exists is innovating
idk
>>343212287
>Dark Souls and post-Tactics Fallout
>Worthy of being top 10 anywhere
Memorization: The Video Game and Brown and Bloom feat. Shallow RPG Mechanics don't belong anywhere near top 10.
>>343231862
Gameplay innovation YES.
So no film can be considered great if it's nonfiction?
>>343231747
it's the same reason something like IL-2 or driving sims aren't on there
replicating something which already exists isn't very creative
>>343232108
then see>>343232067
>>343232067
documentaries are separated from films same as simulators are separated from games
>>343232235
then see>>343232336
no one's saying they're bad dingus
>>343215639
what do ya know its pure garbage
neo v erryone
>>343232336
We're talking about gameplay.
In terms of breakthrough depth and precision given in Madden NFL 2005, it is unrivaled in terms of football games. It needs to be added if you're making a list of greatest games of all time. Same with Forza 4.
>>343215639
No. It was one determined fag who did it in the most asinine way possible with 0 checks of the board using an automated website with no control over bot spam and did everything he could do to avoid doing the work required to make a proper list.
That list isn't an official /v/ list no matter how much you spam it you fucking autist.
>>343232336
If you're going to make a list of greatest games of all time, you need to add ones with significant impact and touch upon all genres. Having your list be entirely skewed to games made in the past 20 years and be heavily biased towards rpg's and platformers is in no way representative of the best an entire medium has to offer
>>343215089
Why is 13.7m less than 13m?
>>343231445
Games don't have to be innovative to be fun. That being said 90% of this list, the gameplay is dated as fuck. I loved Zelda OoT as much as the next guy but have any of you actually played it in the last 5 years? It's old. It's boring by today's standards.
Seriously, this list is a fucking joke. There's zero variety (no racing, no sports, no shooters), it's jRPGs followed by more jRPGS followed by more jRPGS with some sidescrollers. Mario, Zelda, FF and an ocassional game made after 2000. They even put a meme - deadly premonition - on there. Top fucking kek.
>>343212287
Because if we made one today it would be infinitely worse, see >>343215639
/v/'s taste gets worse every year because oldfags leave and newfags come.
>>343235042
I played MM recently and that was just as fun as I remembered it and I haven't played it in at least 15 years.
Maybe your tastes just changed fag. Doesn't make the game worse than it was.
If you want an example of a game that got worse with time, you can refer to the camera in SM64. What a piece of shit. The game is still fun but the camera fucking fight you half the time and you die due to not being able to see where you are or having a sudden turn in direction because the camera freaks out.
>Deus Ex
>Morrowind
Fucking buggy flawed as hell games with SHIT GAMEPLAY are the best games of all time for /v/. Literally casuals.
Literally did it early this fucking year.
>>343236146
Not that buggy but I'd definitely agree with flawed. But not shit.
>morrowind in top 100
>morrowind in top 10
>morrowind best game of all time
this is why you shouldn't take anyone on this board opinions seriously
>>343212287
Almost every game in this list is ok.
There are games that I don't like but I know it's just me, it deserves to be in. With this said...
Why the fuck Team Fortress is in the list? In 9ยบ position??
I will never understand this.
>>343236342
>morrowind
>BETHESDA
>not buggy
Not even close to being TOP 50 dude, the flaws are too big, only fans of the specific genre like them. Also if we judge them objetively they are BAD games. If you want some no skill PC game on the list that much put a good one there.
>>343212287
>no Witcher 3
>>343238710
>Polacks are so fucking retarded that they don't know that their game was released last year
How new are you, shill? Yeah, this game is pretty fucking great, but OP pic is kind of old.
Also the pic was made in times when GOTY awards weren't the only reasons why people liked certain games.
What a fucking nigger.
Well the new list was made on a site that allowed multiple votes from a single IP and Nintendrones raided the poll.
How can anyone who visits /v/ more than once a year believe that MGS3 and Dark Souls wouldn't make it to the top 10, literally two most beloved games on this site.
>>343212287
Because Sonyfags would pretty much not stop bitching and moaning until Bloodborne was ranked as #1.
>>343235998
My tastes didn't change. Games got better technically and objectively.
>Voice Actors
>Textures/Art/Design
>Real soundtracks and score
>Professionally written stories
>Actual multiplayer
>etc
This is not really open to debate. Only gameplay is open to debate. New Wolfenstein is better than old Wolfenstein. New Doom is better than old Doom. GTA5 shits over GTA4 (even Rockstar said they dropped the ball with GTA4). Goodness there's 5 fucking FF games up here.
>>343239525
Same about CDrones Red >>343238710
There was one. It triggered retards to no end.
>>343212834
I'd actually be pretty curious to see how it does. It appears in 3x3 threads more than I expected it would.
>>343239780
>retards
hi nintendrone
>>343212287
Stopped reading at fallout 3. I can never get passed it.
>>343212287
I never see half of those being discussed here.
>>343240712
old pic, famalam.
don't worry, i bet you never see 90% of games from the new pic discussed here, since poll was fucked by raids and multiple votes from the same ips.
now tell me anon, is wonderful 101 one of the top 9 games ever made?
>>343240942
I have yet to play it, actually I could download it for my wii u but I lack the motivation to do so.
A solid top 100 list is nearly impossible to make due to the inherent limitations of 4chan's interface. The thread will only be up for maybe an hour, has reply limits, and image limits, and rarely people make new follow-up threads.
A top 10 or maybe top 25 would be fine if someone actually kept threads up and posted new ones for the span of a few days so it would get a lot of votes in and then compile the data. Anything more than that is a tough task for a place like /v/.
>>343212287
>no C&C
>no Dune 2000
>no Commander Keen
>no Myst
>no Boarderlands
>full of gaystation shit
>>343229463
The difference is that Splatoon is a shooter using a non-KBM control scheme. It's a very clear and unpleasant issue.
>Says there's nothing wrong with Dark Soul's KBM controls when other PC games have it worse
The difference here is that the game is still playable with KBM. If you don't want to play using it, you don't have to. That's a freedom you should have, but the important thing is that you get to use KBM, and clearly you've never seen the modding scene if you think the game is completely unplayable. For... erhem, newer players to PC gaming, DaS fix, among others, helps the game tremendously.
Honestly, though, I don't like Dark Souls too much, so I never gave it much thought or replayability. It's just another dark violent murder simulator, but with magic and knights. Basically medieval call of duty, so it's not a series I'd call high art.
