What went wrong?
POO
Its AMD, what did you expect, a 980 killer?
Despite all the hype "AMD is more prepared for FinFET than Nvidia", they fell this flat. Couldn't even beat 980.
>>343207890
270 EURO SHEKEL
"/=
>>343207890
They hyped the card so much that the prices of the 970 became comparable, which rendered the release useless.
Nvidia's 1060 TI will murder this thing
AMD can't compete
>>343208540
rx480 is still 60 dollars cheaper. Google your facts instead of repeating them off a nividia board.
>>343208720
RX480 costs 320 euro where I live, that's not very cheap senpai
>>343208709
Probably. But it'll also be 50-100 dollars more expensive. AMD is going for a budget card.
>doesn't meet PCI-E standard for power draw from the PCI port
Well, gonna have to wait a bit since I'm on a >100 USD mobo that I wouldn't want to subject to that kind of load. Well done AMD, at least 3.5gate didn't have a risk of frying your fucking mobo
>>343208491
Why would it beat something that costs 2x more
>>343208881
Ahahahahahaha why aren't you living in America? Get out of your shit country.
Anyways, it's a cheaper card for those living in America
How good are 970s? I see one on sale for 289.
>>343208709
>expecting any x60 card to be good
>>343208881
>320 euro where I live
>where I live
Found the problem.
>>343208881
import from other eu countries
Can this card at least break 60 fps at 1080?
>>343209093
get an rx you mong
>>343209030
>>343207890
>complaining about a 200$ card, marketed as a 200$ card
>>343209275
What site is that?
>>343209093
>paying more for less vram
lol
>>343207890
Nothing. It's THE best budget card out there right now.
>>343207890
AMD let the hype boil over; helped push a narrative that this card would beat the 980 in general performance when such a thing wasn't the case.
I'm probably going to wait until 1070 prices go down, as well as see what Vega has to offer, before I upgrade my 6950.
>>343208709
>192-bit bus
I don't know familia, we'll see I guess
>>343208881
stop living in slav slime
it is an amazing card that can run very demanding games like witcher at full HD at 40+ fps, for 200 bucks, that is amazing, the problem with you homosexuals (specially nvidia retards), is that you think that every single fucking new card should be a high end behemoth, this card is aimed to mid core users that want to build a gaming pc but dont want to spend 500+ dollars on a GPU, fucking dumb shit.
>>343209093
480 is usually marginally better than a 970, but it has more vram and will age better. It also costs less, at least in burgerland.
should I bother "future proofing" with the 8gig or stick with the 4, dont plan to ever upgrade past my 1080 monitor.
The real question is how much better would this be over my 6870
>>343209596
480 confirmed for 4k low settings 30fps master race.
It'd be great IF I COULD FUCKING BUY ONE
The fucking big box stores dont have them out yet, and everyone online that can get me one within a few days is sold out.
>>343210053
>buying a 480 for 4k gaming
>>343209947
Some games already use more than 4gb of VRAM, better play it safe senpai
>>343210035
immensely
>>343209275
what site is this??
>>343210075
>buying reference when customs are launching next week
>>343210190
wow shit could get real bad for AMD
>>343210121
I havent bothered to keep up with 3rd party in a long ass while, who should I look out for? I heard msi is p. good for AMD
>>343208984
gtx980 was 500$ a month ago, and launched at 600$
>>343210190
>>343210320
nothing is gonna happen, go back to fuckin reddit and stay there
>>343210430
Sapphire is usually the best
>>343209835
B-but muh apples and oranges comarison
>>343207890
shit performance
shit plastic cooler leads into overheating
doesnt meet standards of PCI wattage usage leads into damaging your motherboard and potential housefires especially during overclock
>http://videocardz.com/61667/what-reviewers-say-about-radeon-rx-480-exceeding-pci-express-power-specifications
>http://videocardz.com/61667/what-reviewers-say-about-radeon-rx-480-exceeding-pci-express-power-specifications
TOP KEK BLUNDER OF THE FUCKING CENTURY
RIP AMD ON DAY 1 OF POLARIS
>>343210584
cheers, ill wait for everyones reviews to come out, but ill keep an eye on them
haven't built anything since 2009 so pardon my retardation
>>343210454
>gtx980 was 500$ a month ago
Then its 2,5 times more expensive. My point still stands
I'll wait until the manufacturers make proper RX 480 with good cooling and an 8-pin power connector. Also, AMD will optimize drivers.
Speaking of drivers, will Nvidia slowly gimp Maxwell cards with new drivers. You know, like they did with Kepler?
>>343209548
>>343210184
https://geizhals.eu/ / https://skinflint.co.uk/
>>343210035
My current card, an HD7870 is only slightly better than your card, it can barely play the new DOOM at the absolute lowest settings (but still 1080p), dropping below 30FPS in many parts.
The RX480 can play DOOM on Ultra settings and maintain above 90FPS at almost all times.
It would be a huge improvement.
>>343210156
I had that feeling, too bad that's less a bottleneck than my AthlonII 635 CPU. Maybe I'll invest in an i5 and one of these when I can save up some.
>>343208709
Good luck getting one at a non-scalped price before December 2016 with all the trouble Nvidia are having with their manufacturers.
>>343211145
Better than buying this "firestarter"
Only cucks buy AMD
>If just ONE 480 can kill a mobo then what's going to happen to the suckers that got TWO of them for crossfire? I expect motherboard genocide.
WEW
>>343212498
with a 2x combo, even the neighbour's house might burn
I always though nvidia was cooler than amd... hmmm....
B-but it's ok when AMD does it, i-it's for the people! The consumers! The real heroes!
>>343209715
>1070 prices go down
lol
This 480x is only 30% faster compared to my 2+ year old mid-range Card . Thats fucking nothing. Not to mention the insane temps reviewers have reported.
>>343213036
Testing methodology can cause different results.
>>343213557
But the results are consistent, enjoy your house fire. No thanks Pajeet, lmao
Hitman shows it almost as fast as a GTX 980Ti
>>343207890
32 ROPs
>>343213918
Yeah that's what I said a month ago.
64 rops better than GTX980
32 rops comparable to the GTX970
When are we going to get third party versions with decent cooling? Also do you think its worth upgrading from a 280x?
>>343213768
That website better watchout, they might get blacklisted by Nvidia for actually benchmarking with a DX12 game
>>343214084
Its supposed to be around 50%-100% better. I'd honestly wait for the RX 490
>>343214084
soon, yes
Is this a good deal?
I don't know shit.
>>343214542
No.
>>343214542
Hell no man. The 480 is more powerful and 100 dollars less.
>>343214685
but gtx960 doesn't cause house fire
>>343214685
8 gig is 60 less. the 4 gig is flat 200.
>>343214295
Nvidia are the most corrupt company of all time
>>343214542
thats an awful deal lmao
>>343214685
that is a bundle, it includes 8gb of ddr4 ram and 240gb ssd
>>343207890
Two shitters of a company in a name calling contest where no one wins. Not the makers nor the consumers.
We need a third maker of GPUs.
>>343210190
MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT AND CARD RECALL INCOMING
SELL AMD STOCKS NOW
>>343214936
Oh I didn't even notice that. That's pretty good then.
>>343214867
Or could it be that AMD just happens to suck in DX11 games?
>>343210893
My 280x doesnt go below 70fps on ultra, I dont see whats the point on upgrading if you are goong to stay 1080p, 1070 and 1080 are really good, yeah okay but my year old 200 bucks gpu runs everythinf ai throw at it
>>343215119
The purposely make preset game settings that can only run on the latest hardware at 60fps to force AMD users and previous Nvidia customers to run lower settings or suffer massive performance penalties. They've been doing this since the early 2000s
Not to mention they take dirty money from the mob
>>343214009
It's not the end all for performance but only having 32 will definitely make it harder to compete at higher resolutions. I'm sure ROP efficiency has improved with Polaris but there's no way it's a 2x improvement. The PS4 GPU has 32 ROPs which does not bode well for the Neo upgrade in terms of 4K gaming. (not that 4K gaming was ever a realistic goal anyway)
>>343215437
No it doesn't, stop lying. 280x can't run DOOM Ultra consistently even close to 60,exept for the opening lvl.(which happens to be the demo lvl).
I'm disappointed it seems to have the same performance per watt as maxwell but other than that it seems like a good budget card
At least it performs where rumors suggested it would
>>343216142
It's AMD, all hype no deliver. They're losing to both Intel and Nvidia. Not too long they'll be out of business, and then the Nvidia and Intel will charge more.
Hype, and possibly Glofo's 14nm being a piece of shit
I have a R9 390, which card should I jump to when the time comes?
>>343216379
It performs exactly where the rumors were putting it.
All over the place.
It's 970 tier in most tests but it's 980ti tier in hitman for no reason.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=408409
AMD is doomed. Not even their fans want to see them ever again.
>>343216620
Hitman is sponsored by AMD and it can use DX12, which AMD is better at for now.
For $200 it's a pretty good mid range card. I was gonna get it until I'm ready to fully upgrade my PC
>1070 will be delivered tomorrow
the wait hurts.
>>343216674
It's also way faster than a 980 in 3dmark 11.
I think it's just this card has an unbalanced performance profile and some games/tests that have unbalanced loads will work in it's favor, guru 3d says it's fill rate but i don't know what that is, i've seen it a few times when trying to find the performance of consoles and handhelds though.
Nothing. People just over-hyped it.
>>343213768
Gee I wonder why
>>343216895
they're referring to the pixel fillrate which is determined by the raster output unit count. The RX 480 only has 32 ROPs which is the same number the Radeon 7970, 7870, and 7850 had. Also the same number the as the PS4 GPU has.
Pixel fillrate is one of the biggest advantages the PS4 has over the Xbox One, due to having 2x the ROP count. The 970 has 56 ROPs (of the 980's original 64) so it's going to always have a significant pixel fillrate advantage. As GPUs become more efficient though the effective fillrate gets closer to the theoretical fillrate.
>>343216630
Cards always do that though.
The 750ti had a power consumption of like 80-90watts when it didn't even have a power connector.
>>343217353
>RX480
>efficient
>almost same power consumption as 1080
yeah ok pajeet
hardware pleb here
can someone give me a no-memes shitposting answer to this?
what consequences does this power overdraw on the PCIe slot (if i understand it correctly) actually have for me and my hardware?
>>343217649
Changes that the slot smokes itself dead.
>>343207890
>Polaris
more like Poolaris amirite
>>343217649
Nothing. Most card do it.
>>343217649
Pretty much all PC hardware are designed to meet strict specifications, and if they run outside of those parameters they can fry themselves
Built a pc like last week with no GPU because of AMD hype. Should I still buy the 480 4gb? Never plan to go 4k.
>>343217649
it means the card draws more power than it should, which is bad! your motherboard will get all hot and bothered about it if you stick it into a certain slot.
>>343217649
None.
It's like the Nvidia housefire meme back with Kepler. Sure, some houses burned down but the majority of people who bought these Nvidia GPUs were fine.
>>343217545
effective fillrate has absolutely nothing to do with power consumption retard
Based on the benchmarks, it's pretty clear that the RX 480's ROPs are more efficient than the 980's given there are half as many and the card still manages to perform well. The 1080 and 1070 also show a massive improvement in ROP efficiency given that the 1080 has fewer ROPs than the 980 Ti and still outperforms it 100% of the time, even in fillrate intensive applications.
>GUYS PLS HELP
This gtx 970 is currently the same price as a rx 480 where I live. Which should I get??
>>343217979
970
>>343217892
It would still be a better idea to get a 1070.
>>343208964
So it's AMD's fault you have a shit mobo?
>Both new consoles will have a polaris gpu
>this was a good thing.
>>343217979
480, how the fuck is this even a question?
Better save up for a 1070 though
>>343217968
Fermi was the house fire one.
Kepler was actually really power efficient.
>>343217979
8GB RX 480, you'll regret only having 3.5GB of RAM in the near future.
>>343217979
>similar performance
>8gb vs 3.5gb
>newer architecture
>cheaper
Take a guess fucknut
>>343209731
>>343209373
it waa built to, so yes
>>343218041
But that's like way more expensive. 1070 only good if you plan to go beyond 1080 60 fps.
>>343217979
Neither, they 480 is most likely overpriced in your region and the 970 is just a stupid purchase that will become obsolete as soon as DX12 arrives.
Wait for the 1060 and then make the judgement.
>>343218032
>tricking people into falling for the 970 and getting cucked
Is this fun for you?
>>343218215
I can do that too
>>343217979
My wifes bull gifted me a 970 to celebrate our second black breed and what can I say? I absolutly love my new card! It fits my lifestyle perfectly and just feels right
>>343218215
no, but is cherry picking that screencap fun? people sure do it a lot.
>>343218276
I know the DOOM AMD issue was patched, was the Mirror's Edge issue fixed? I don't know given no one gives a shit about Mirror's Edge Catalyst.
I think the RX480's power consumption problem has to do with such high clocked GDDR5. 8GHz is faster than any GDDR5 have every been clocked at stock. GDDR5X is clocked a lot lower
The GTX1070 with GDDR5 non X clocked at 2GHz, consume 40w more than reference GTX1070s.
>>343218045
Nice reading comprehension.
>>343218276
>>343218459
No offense senpaitachi, but recommending a 970 in this day and age is mean. What do you get out of cucking people into an obsolete 970 on an anonymous image board?
>>343209438
y u tho
>>343218621
nothing, and the card isnt obsolete. I would recommend him get a 1070, but that's nearly double the price and idk his budget.
>>343209596
you can't run 1440p with that shitpile properly anyways, what would you need 8gb vram for?
>GTX 1080
>~2500 shader units
>RX 480
>~2300 shader units
>both using similar 14/16nm process
>1080 is the top card by a mile
Why is AMD's architecture such shit?
>even the biggest Nvidia shills like Linus and DigitalFoundry recommend the 480 over the 970
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS HAPPENING BROS
WE CAN'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT
>>343218782
There are already games out today that need more than 4GB of RAM at 1080p, why the fuck would you think that won't be the case in a year or two when new consoles are out?
>>343218782
games like tomb raider can already consume 6.5 gig of vram running at 1080p
>>343218796
>newer tech performs better for less money
HOLY FUCKING SHIT DO OTHERS KNOW ABOUT THIS??
>>343218795
higher power consumption, less reliable drivers, worse noise/heat levels, generally worse performance at equal price points, etc
b-but they're for the gamers! AMD cares about us!
>>343218795
shaders is just one measurement
>>343218795
Nvidia spend a lot more money on their architecture. That's why their GPUs clock higher and handle more intense tessellation
>>343218795
>RX 480 Async support
>yes
>GTX 1080 Async support
>no
>>343218796
Linus will shill for whoever writes him the biggest check, AMD has him in their pocket atm.
>>343218859
Because that's bullshit. No game needs that much more ram unless they are a mess like Batman or have an useless uncompressed texture option like Mirror's Edge.
>>343218527
The MSI 1070 has the same memory clock as a reference 1070
Who 1070 master race here?
>1080
You're okay too, if a bit excessive.
>>343219108
>No game needs that
By that logic no game needs 4GB of RAM unless they have useless uncompressed textures!
Just buy a console you fucking idiot if you want to talk about what is necessary for gaming.
>>343219097
>DX12 titles performing like shit on all hardware
Try again
>>343218985
In regards to power consumption, the 480 is about the same as a 970. Drivers is a bad meme that shows you don't know anything about the GPU market. Every reviewer has said that the reference RX 480 is pretty good for a reference cooler and not as noisy as what reference coolers usually are. And the performance thing is totally wrong. NVIDIA always gets blown the fuck out by it's AMD equivalent in the lower GPU bracket, the mid GPU bracket, and the beginning of the higher GPU bracket. NVIDIA only outperforms AMD at the highest tiers like the -80s and -80tis but those are niche cards that mainstream people don't buy.
>>343219141
1070 is better for you if you only want to do 1080/1440P, res which the 1080 would be massive overkill and not worth the increased costs.
>>343219125
you wont crank up every graphicly impressive game to ultra setting in the future obviously but i dont see how someone would expect that from a card worth 250 bucks anyway
>>343218782
>>343219125
>actually ready for DC12
>AMD cards are notorious for getting better performance over time
As much as I hate the future-proof meme - if you're on a budget and want something that won't shit itself in the next 2-3 years the 480 is a pretty decent choice.
>>343219141
the CPU is a real shit bottleneck. but performance is oh so good. could use more ram as well.
>>343219125
The price isn't just decent, Nvidia has no competition for this card on the market right now even at 150$ more.
Right now the closest you can get is the gimped 970 at 300$ or a 980 at 400$.
>>343219203
Oh look, you do get the point.
> Still, after subtracting for Windows and background processes (system and logging utilities), we never saw the Witcher 3 exceed ~1800MB of VRAM. This value might increase in certain areas of the game, but that's what it was for the starting village.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1949-witcher-3-texture-quality-comparison-vram-and-fps
>>343218795
Nvidia sacrifices FP64 performance and has a color compression thing that sacrifices some albeit imperceptible visual quality.
>>343218683
>LISÄÄ KORIIN
she sounds hot
>>343219125
the only cards that gets gimped are nvidia cards. and NVIDIA doesn't have any mainstream cards on the market. most gamers go for 1080p 60fps and the GTX 1070 and 1080 are quite excessive for that.
>>343219279
Don't even have a 4k monitor so yep, 1080p
>>343219451
AMD has new color compression in the 480 as well
And games don't need FP64, and the GTX cards are for gaming not workstation tasks
>>343219141
Gonna join the 1070 club mid-July and coast on it until I can get that ASUS monitor on Black Friday and eventually upgrade to the 1080ti.
Then I will know the bliss of 1440p 144hz on Ultra.4K is a fucking meme unless you somehow manage to get a monitor that's over 30" large and has less than 5ms response time
>>343219417
>if developers cant handle the vram demand reasonably games demanding above 4 gb vram basicly dont exist
>>343219139
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_X/1.html
No anon this GTX1070 has GDDR5 not GDDR5X. Notice the difference in power consumption
GDDR5 @8GHz uses a substantially larger amount of power
>>343219535
if your going for 4K the 1080 is the card to get. it's that simple. otherwise the 1070 is imo the much better card for the average consumer.
>>343219417
>texture quality on max settings is identical to PS4 and Xbox One
dude just stop, Witcher 3's textures are mediocre as fuck
>>343219672
Are they? Then why can't the 480 go above 50 fps with it? MUH VRAM
>>343219852
>RX 480: 8gb GDDR5
>PS4: 8gb GDDR5
idiot
>>343219852
Has absolutely nothing to do with VRAM and is probably the result of the RX 480 only having 32 ROPs. It's also a DX 11 title.
>what went wrong
The only thing that went wrong was that people got too hyped. It being a GTX 980 would have been awesome but a nongimped 970 is still good. This is a good midrange card that will play basically any game you throw at it on high or even max settings.
If you already have a GTX 970 or an R9 390 then there's no need to get an RX 480. But if you don't, then the RX 480 is basically a more modern version of those cards. It'll be interesting to see what the AIB companies do with it. All we have right now are stock reference cards.
>>343219606
Yeah they both have lossless compression, it's juts nvidia's is definitely better.
AMD cards are more VRAM limited in both bandwidth and capacity due to this, that's why a 2gb maxwell card was mostly on par with a 4gb AMD card last gen.
And yeah i'm not saying reducing FP64 isn't a good idea, but it's something AMD hasn't done
http://www.geeks3d.com/20140305/amd-radeon-and-nvidia-geforce-fp32-fp64-gflops-table-computing/
Nvidia reduced it significantly between fermi and kepler and again between kepler and maxwell but amd keeps their FP64 performance at near workstation card levels for some reason.
It saw decent sales for them in the buttcoin bubble but i can't help but feel it's not a great plan for gaming in the long run.
>>343219852
Lighting is quite intense. Their are a lot of performance heavy effects in the Witcher 3
Where can I find a 1070 lower than $500 all of them are out of stock on newegg
>>343219646
Both 1070s have gddr5.
And the 1070 uses more power than a 1080 when overclocked because they've disabled some units on the GPU so the remaining ones have to work that much harder to keep up
>>343220117
You can't, this is what a paper launch is like
>>343220117
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/
>>343207890
Nothing?
Not that I expect a retard on /v/ to undertand, shill.
>>343220117
Watch EVGA's site like a hawk. Check in at least 4 times a day. It'll pay off, as it's only $440 there.
200$
WAT BUY
>>343210280
sauce?
So much for $380 GTX1070 LOL
>>343209030
i dont want to get killed by pleb police
>>343219932
>>343220071
>>343220071
Perfect, glad we settled that VRAM ain't worth shit unless devs are retarded.
>Please shit in my mouth, dev! I have 8gigs to take your lazy coding!
>>343221040
>plays PC games
>doesn't expect devs to be retarded
Good idea anon, just buy your outdated limited shit and hope for the best!
>>343209438
>>343218683
SUOMI PERKELE! 6-1
>>343208491
It's a 480. Not a 490 or a 490x. It's a budget card. There's no reason for people to assume its competition is a high end card.
>not 199€
The 480 is a house fire waiting to happen
>>343209835
This is one of the best posts and will be ignored as per usual
>>343221501
>GTX 480
>those heatpipes
you do realize that the RX 480 and GTX 480 are not the same product, right?
WELL, /v/ saved my ass and mobo once more, gonna wait for the aftermarket.
>>343221501
That's a GTX 480, you butt.
>>343221779
>aftermarket
sapphire is already available
>>343221706
The 480 is even worse in crossfire
>>343218456
Getting cucked by your wife isn't enough but you want your computer to cuck you too? Damn, son
>>343222123
Does he review old games and swear at them?
>>343217845
Can you show me what cards actually do?
>>343218117
>same price as a rx 480
Damn you cant read AMDdrone
>>343222543
GTX750Ti is notorious for it
>>343215119
When has AMD not crashed and burned when trying to run any kind of game?
>>343222543
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_750_and_750_ti_review,5.html
96w
>>343222832
Mantle.
>>343222961
wtf, where did you see 93w?
>>343223483
Overclocked the GTX750ti will consume above PCIE certified wattage
I'm going to get one to replace my 280x. What are you gonna do now?
>>343221851
fuck my sides
>>343223792
enjoy my 1070
>>343223792
laugh
Building a PC for the first time soon, give me the lowdown on cards. Planning for a 970 since the 480 is apparently a meme. Can an I5 and a 970 do decent mid-range work?
>>343210280
It was leaked that custom coolers won't be out for another 2 weeks at earliest.
>>343224147
nigger 480 hasn't reached halve of the memelevel the 970 has
buy an APU, free of all memes :^)
>>343224147
The GTX 970, R9 390, and RX 480 are all basically in the same price race and perform the same. Of those three cards, the 970 performs the worst and will age the worst because of NVIDIA gimping and because of it's only 3.5 gb of VRAM.
>>343223792
Nothing, you seem to have your shit together.
AMD is a fine solution for mid to mid-high end desktop cards but it's shit for mobile and high end because of their inadequate performance/watt.
>>343207890
Nothing.
80% of people buying video cards buy cards in the 150-300$ range.
AMD said that they want that segment and they are doing their best to get it.
>>343224147
RX 480 isn't a meme just overhyped
The GTX970 has a serious issue with its memory partition. It can cause freezing during gameplay when memory usage passes from under 3.584 GB to 3.585 GB
>>343223868
>$500 card
No thanks
>>343224147
wait for the custom 480s and get one of those, they'll probably have 2x6pin or an 8 pin connector and should sort out any problem this power consumption thing might turn out.
>>343224334
>970 is 3.5
Ahh I knew I forgot at least one dankmeme
Will a 480 be openly available at some tie in the next month?
>>343207890
With all the free shilling Nvidiots are doing for them, literally nothing.
Stay mad.
>>343224505
Should be unless production issues kill the supply
So I should probably just get a 390?
When is the 470 coming out?
>>343224147
Follow this anon's advice>>343224446
It might be interesting to look at the GTX 1060 too when it comes out.
Be patient anon, right now I don't think it's a good time yet.
>>343221832
is the pci problem fixed or nah? And is sapphire aight?
>>343223483
Meant 92 watts. I don't know where I saw 96
>there are retards on /v/ who can't understand the difference between a budget performance card and a high end card
no wonder they just buy the latest nvidia card unless reddit tells them not to
name another 1080/60 card for $200, dont fucking say 970 at $250. I can't wait to use this jump from medium settings
>>343224619
I'd wait for the custom RX 480s.
>>343224679
no one knows anything about the 460 and 470 yet
>>343218985
>less reliable drivers
This standby is has been outmoded for well over a year, since the release of Catalyst Omega basically, with Nvidia having the more recent driver issues when updates were killing some people's cards. Then there's the fact that AMD's drivers have proven more reliable in terms of providing long-term performance increases, with Nvidia being under longtime suspicion of deliberately gimping outgoing models to make their new lines look better in comparison.
>generally worse performance at equal price points
Except that for several years now Nvidia has only had AMD beaten in price/performance at the top level, with everything below favoring AMD.
>>343224845
To be fair they are comparing AMD's highest end 2016 card with nvidia's lowest end 2016 card. What can they compare against? the 970?
It isn't the consumer's fault that the gpu vendors are doing a weird avoidance dance with the cards this year.
all of a sudden i don't even want it, what cringey marketing
>>343224923
I wonder how long that will take. This old card needs to go
>>343224604
Ok cool. I'll keep an eye on it.
My build btw
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxn9WX
What 480 should I look into? 3rd parties any good or is it too early to tell.
>>343221040
>VRAM ain't worth shit unless devs are retarded
>unless devs are retarded
>unless
Just bought one.
Best card in the $200-$250 dollar price range. Prove me wrong. Pro tip: you can't.
Danefag here
>200 dollars = 180€
>180€ = 1341DK
>chepeast 480 here cost 2299DK
>2299Dk = 309€
>309€ = 342$
I don't know why i gave my hopes up for something that was actually just as affordable here in EU
>>343225441
Which company? also do you know when the non-reference ones come out?
>>343225140
They can realize this card isn't supposed to replace the latest and greatest 390s/980s/titans/etc and is supposed to bring poorfags into 2016 by replacing their intel 3000's/hd6000s/etc and giving them reasonable VR performance.
If anything, the 490 will compete (well probably not considering AMD), and the 1060 isn't released yet. Basically, AMD and Nvidia have gone with polar opposite approaches to the market.
It's literally common sense, and if that is out of reach, AMD and Nvidias marketing is explicitly saying the same shit. Don't excuse the redditors/underage arguing over this card not outpacing the titan.
>>343225503
import you limey bastard, wait till that shit hits amazon, use a proxy to go to the US version, ship it to yourself as a gift, pc mustard.
>>343225503
Should have left like Britain
my 4gb 960 runs everything fine at 1080p and I downsample plenty of shit too.
I won't upgrade for a while. whenever I get a 4k monitor I might. would grab a dank may may gpu then as well.
>>343225889
>my 4gb 960 runs everything fine at 1080p
No it doesn't
I'm not looking to do any VR shit but I am looking for a card that'll last me a few years and be able to run any modern game at 60fps/1080p.
Is this the way to go or is there another card I should be looking into?
>>343207890
the card didnt go wrong, leaks and AMD fanboys did.
We got a fuckton more efficient 290x with twice the vram
people are retards for thinking a 380 sucessor could give them Fury performance at the first sign of a sketchy Videocardz leak, along with hyping the fuck out of impossible performance
>>343225889
is the game supposed to look this shit?
>>343223792
idk
I wanted it to be better then my R390 but i guess i could just get one and crossfire them if i wanted a preformance boost
Any crossfire fags in this thread that wanna give some tips?
I haven't done it before
i dont get it, why did everyone constantly post about how this card was going to be better than a like $600 nvidia 'counterpart'?
>>343225512
MSI. They give 3 year warranty.
They have also flashed their AIB model today:
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-asus-strix-msi-gaming/ which apparently clocks at 1.4-1.6ghz but will be substantially more expensive. I think it will be somewhere between 980 and 980ti performance. You can also go for sapphire non-reference models as they built their cooling solutions exclusively for AMD and probably have the best experience in working with these cards.
More AIB models will be coming in the next 2 weeks probably costing around $240-$280 depending on where you live (I guess).
>>343225604
amazon USA doesnt send hard- and software to an adress outside of the USA afaik
>>343225306
My reference HD6950 has been great to me.
I'd get the Sapphire reference card and leave it at reference or underclock it a tad to help out your motherboard if the PCIE power draw is a serious concern
Given how the RX 480 is only supposed to draw 80 watts its not a big deal. Its only 5 watts over certification requirements
>>343225889
if your "fine" is 30fps, i believe you.
so does the card actually fry my PCIe slot?
>>343223792
Congratulate you for finally being able to upgrade to something worth it.
Never been one for AMD, but for many people the 480 is exactly what they were hoping for when wanting to upgrade from shit like the 750ti or 280. That's a good thing. Options are good. Not everyone needs a 1070 or a 1080. Not everyone needs a Fury or a fucking 980ti.
1080p will continue to be standard until console gaming officially makes it obsolete. This is a fact. I'm very sure 1440p is vastly superior--I plan on jumping on that ship come Fall. But for now, it's perfectly fine to just have a setup that performs 1080p 60hz without much issue or price gouging.
>>343226129
>the human eye can see above 30 fps
rofl
>>343226471
480s in CF is what was compared to the 1080
>>343226430
To be fair they were saying it could be overclocked to fury levels and it can in the benchmark it does slightly better in than usual for no reason.
