>the technology we need to create elder scrolls 6 doesnt exist yet
What did he mean by this?
>>343165831
They're waiting for Gamebryo 2.
>>343165831
It means he's a lazy fuck and doesn't want to make the game yet.
But Flash already exists
>>343165831
That gamebryo has finally shit itself from overuse.
>>343165914
Pretty much this, Bethesda has to be the most technologically inept company that somehow still rakes in mountains of dosh.
>>343165831
Gamebryo alpa 0.8765 update
>>343165831
He's waiting james cameron to make it
QUANTUM
MOUNTAINS
Holy shit the captcha
the technology to have modders make the whole game this time
>>343165914
>he is lazy and thats why he does not want to make a sequel to a gameseries that is so fuckpopular that it literally prints money. cause he is lazy.
>>343165831
>>343166152
The technology for consoles to use mods.
>>343165831
He means that they need technology that makes games for them because they're too lazy.
For VR to be viable and not first gen tech shit with nothing but shovelware.
>>343165831
He wants to make it VR
>Computers today aren't powerful enough to brute force their way through the technical shitshow of a game that TES 6 will be
That's what he means.
>>343165831
He means that they need more time to come up with something since the new Zelda shits all over Skyrim and would've shit all over TES6 if they didn't back down
>>343166186
People are starting to catch on that the Gamebryo engine is shit
It means they haven't sold enough copies of Fallout 4 with all the DLC yet
>>343165831
>games run on shitty 2 decade old engines or fuckhuge jam packed engines with no payoff
>what we need hasnt been invented yet
Dont believe his lies, anon. Hes wanted in multiple states for lieing.
>>343166364
nigga zss fucking zapped your dog
wha-zap BAM nigga u frozen
>>343165831
VR compatibility with the planned first-person sex minigames is harder for Gamebryo to handle than climbable ladders.
>>343166480
Yeah that's why each game they make sells more and more even though content is getting cut and it's poorly optimized.
Stop being delusional.
>>343166648
ty for the laugh
Translation
>"We can't be fucking bothered to make a decent engine for our shit games -- so we're waiting for someone else to"
FULLY DYNAMIC
VOLUMETRIC
MOUNTAINS
>>343167302
Can I climb that mountain, Todd?
>>343166804
They make money because of brand name recognition, not because of the quality of the game.
Their versions of Gamebyro are fucking awful and have always been.
>>343165831
>What did he mean by this?
DENUVO got cracked
>>343166364
>its 1:54AM right now so all vets are closed
Where do you live? Shouldn't there be some veterinary hospital open?
Maybe the "technology" he's speaking of is a brand new engine, built from the ground up to not be shitty.
Also, maybe I'll win the lottery next week without even buying a ticket.
>>343167373
You can climb it in 200 different ways!
You can climb it in third person, you can climb it in first person, you can even shoot it in the face if you want!
>>343166364
That sounds like one of those problems that can easilly wait till morning.
Tell me more lies, Todd.
What Todd is basically saying is that they can't optimize for shit and that they'll have to wait for PS5 so their Morrowind code can be rehashed again for TES6.
>>343167515
>>343167642
vegas
all vet hospitals are closed the earliest is 5AM
>>343165831
He's waiting until his team of 1 coder figures out how to implement spears.
>>343165831
It means that all their plans were crushed from seeing Link actually climb the mountains of the distance in the new Zelda.
>>343165831
They're too jewish to invest money into a new engine, so overpowered hardware has to compensate for their shit outdated code.
It means they're still too stupid to figure out ladders.
Madman's gonna combine skyrim, cyrodil, dagger fall, morrowind and a new region
"We can still pull a lot of money out of the "games" we've already made without doing any work so fuck you, we'll just wait until we've milked this cow down to the last drop before even considering a new game."
Does Bethesda have dufferent teams for fallout and TES? I could bear another FO4. Please tell me it won't get any more casual than skyrim, I'd be ok with a Skyrim 2.0 even but please no voiced protagonist bullshit
>>343168138
*I couldn't bear another FO4, fuck me.
>>343168138
Pretty sure the people who work on Fallout are the same as the ones who do Elder Scrolls because their Fallouts are LITERALLY Skyrim with Guns.
>>343165995
it's like some portal to late 90's developer where they don't give a fuck and make things work by sheer will.
![tf7hhcwqtltpde0t0e3n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3d93XVW.jpg "tf7hhcwqtltpde0t0e3n[1].jpg")
>>343168138
>please no voiced protagonist
That won't happen. They won't compromise that top-drawer Bethesda dialogue.
They don't know how to make mountains climbable yet
Post great Gamebryo games
>>343168325
Unless they plan to remove age settings and most races then there's no fucking way.
>>343165831
For the love of the industry and the franchise as a whole. Please don't make TESVI an "RPG" if you're going to completely fail at making it an RPG like you did with Skyrim.
Either you make a real RPG the TES games prior to Skyrim, or you man up and go all the way and make an action adventure game without RPG elements.
Would I be sad at seeing Bethesda drop the RPG aspect from the TES franchise? Most certainly, it's pretty damn sad to see that it would even need to come that. But I would still respect that decision far, far more than see them attempt to make some RPG look-alike game and then just fail miserably again.
The magic and crafting variety of Skyrim was worse than ever before and just terrible.
The different build options are railroaded as fuck in Skyrim and is a complete joke when compared to the majority of RPGs in general.
And lastly but also most crucially, your builds are fully optimized way too damn early. And beyond that point your character experiences no real character for the remainder of the entire game. Which is completely and wholly ridiculous. An RPG without character growth is hardly an RPG. In before someone makes the argument that "RPGs" are about roleplaying. That's hardly the case in a gameplay sense and it never was, the old classics that pioneered RPGs as videogames never had any such delusions and they were just out to emulate the game mechanics of RPGs. And if you want actual roleplaying you should play actual roleplaying games, and not videogames. Skyrim fails completely at being an RPG.
Which is a real shame. Because for all their flaws the previous games were pretty good at being RPGs. But I guess almost everyone who cared about that sort of stuff on their end has already left them. Bethesda has lost a lot of talent that either retired and or left to work with other people or other things.
It means it's coming out fall 2017.
Elder Scrolls always comes out on the same year as zelda to btfo nintendo
>>343165995
Is there another engine that allows for what their engine does? Hundreds of minor items and interactions in each small area.
Can't think of another engine that does this.
>>343168427
>>343168445
>And if you want actual roleplaying you should play actual roleplaying games, and not videogames
This is stupid. I can still complain about Skyrim being terrible for roleplaying because it is and there are videogame RPGs that have far better roleplaying
They should just dump that shitheap they call Creation Engine and get to grips with idTech 6.
>>343165890
I think you mean Gamebryo 1.2
>>343165831
Multi open world provinces?
Imagine Elder Scrolls Online but with more polish/content and decent AI. It wont happen but it would be cool
They lack the technology to make climb mountains
>>343168673
it's probably happening and thats what dumb todd was referring to
i dont see what else he could mean
>>343165967
>unrated post
People shit on Gamebyro all the time but all the other games that aren't made by Bethesda with it run perfectly fine
It's the shit they piled ontop of it themselves that makes their games suck
>>343166452
>>343168654
]ah yes the game engine that is one of the most difficult to mod,.
>>343168802
>look up list of Gamebryo games
>Bully
>fucking SId Meier's Pirates!
huh
Why exactly is Gamebyro a shit engine?
>>343167567
No. The problem is their main source of income comes from the console market, and the console market hardware is dominated AMD. Bethesda utilise Gameworks in their titles, which is widely known to perform worse on AMD hardware. They can't produce anything better because they're jewing themselves with Gameworks.
>>343168830
It wouldn't need mods if Bethesda could make proper games.
>>343168969
It's like, 15 years old by now.
Todd is dumbfounded how other games can have more than 3 dungeon layouts.
>>343166186
>He's not lazy I swear!
>Skyrim remastered
>>343165831
He's a piece of shit hack and you should go fuck yourself with your meme-threads
>>343169078
So why isn't it getting better as technology becomes more capable?
>>343168636
There are games that allows for more ample opportunities of pretend. Actually calling it "roleplaying" is kind of disrespectful to actual roleplaying games though.
But yes you're correct at how Skyrim is indeed pretty terrible at it. But I see no reason for why the game or the franchise at large should even need to pursue actual roleplaying.
For as long as they manage the RPG mechanics well enough, they'll be fine RPGs in the videogame sense. And that stands for all videogames in general.
It must have been Bioware or something that started to push the idea of "real" roleplaying being an actual thing in videogames and something essential for them to have. Claiming that they did it the best and attempting to have their games stand out from the crowd and sell their games from that prospect.
But we all know what kind of a farce that turned out to be. Either way. No one ever even pretended that videogames delivered actual roleplaying in the past. I am not entirely sure if it was Bioware that pushed that idea or if it was someone else, but it's most certainly a very modern idea. And no disrespect, but a quite silly one too if I were to say so myself. But that's a completely different topic and doesn't really have much to do with the TES games in particular.
>>343168138
Fully VA game is something you can never back down from after you do it once because it's seen as a sign of production value. Which is bullshit because RPGs are probably the only genre that suffered from inclusion of things like full VA and voiced protagonists in that it made RPGs compromise on content. Not to say it CAN'T work, because Gothic did it ages ago, but you need to scale your game appropriately. Fallout 4 showed just how much a fully VA protagonist detracted from options and lead to simplistic quest design.
>>343167759
Well your only option is to stay with him and watch him for the 3 hours or so and bring him there when it opens
>>343168445
I agree with everything you wrote, 100%, but unfortunately it's only going to get worse. They dumbed down Skyrim because that made it more "accessible" to the masses. In other words, TES1 through to TES4 were too hard for the general community.
Expect more COD candy shooter clones from Bethesda.
>>343169170
Because it just works.beep boop
>>343169195
>It must have been Bioware or something that started to push the idea of "real" roleplaying being an actual thing in videogames and something essential for them to have. Claiming that they did it the best and attempting to have their games stand out from the crowd and sell their games from that prospect.
Pretty much yeah. RPGs that doesn't focus on story extensively existed for decades before Baldur's Gate. Hell, there's an entire SSI generation of RPGs that did just that - story was always there, but wasn't the reason why people played those games.
>>343168969
it's not and people who think gamebryo is the problem don't understand the issue
gamebryo is basically just a file structure
the reason bethesda games are buggy as fuck is simply because bethesda can't program anything
this would be true even if they were not using gamebryo (or "creation engine" which is basically just gamebryo)
>>343169195
Planet Escape Tournament came out before any Bioware games m8
>>343165831
What a sly snake he is. He knows just what to say for fans to get hyped down the road.
>>343169170
Because they don't know how to use it even after 15 years.
>>343169248
>weve taken feedback from our community
>apparently fallout 4's dialogue wheel allowed four options for one dialogue choice
>So now, in skyrim 2 youre only allowed to make one dialogue choice! We feel our players will really appreciate this streamlining in the upcoming greatest RPG of the year.
>>343169369
Exactly. Civilization 4 runs on Gamebryo, for god's sake. Bethesda is just really inept at their job.
>>343168989
Gameworks is cancer and the sooner it's dropped the better.
>>343169373
Did it try to sell itself with the gimmick of "real roleplaying" though?
I honestly can't remember. My memories of the past kind of blur together.
>>343168427
>>343169416
>It's free if you have it on steam already
>modders please take this bait and kill yourselves when the console fags ruin your lives with complaints
>>343169436
Catherine too. And that game looks great.
>>343169450
Dunno m8, but it focused on choices and different paths you could take your character on
>>343169348
>angry parrot man slaps your gf's ass in the club
>what do you do?
I still have nightmares from menzoberranzan's character creation process
>>343169416
>Community feedback suggests that what Skyrim was really lacking was a karma system
>We've listened to your cries
>And we will be adding the karma system to Skyrim 2
>So now when you're presented with the only dialogue choice available
>You'll play the game the way it's meant to be played
>It
>Just
>Works
>>343169373
But it didn't.
>>343168481
No.
>>343169508
>Modders start making everything require script extenders so consolefags stop bugging them
I can see it coming, fallout 3/nv/4 didn't have nearly as large of a modding scene as TES did, I feel sorry for them desu
>>343169543
Yeah. I love the game. I am just not sure they ever called it actual roleplaying somehow. Like Bioware has done with their games.
Obviously, TeS VI needs more 64x tessellated volumetric fog and godrays and 2048x208 unoptimized vanilla textures that look like blurry garbage.
>>343169369
Modding for it is a pain with outdated world space normal maps. Modeling restrictions etc. Animations cant be fluid enough due to limitations.
In comparison the witcher engine saw a new revision for each game.
>>343169650
By the way, you said videogames can never live up to the actual p& RPGs, but aren't the NWN games pretty close with their modules and co-op parties?
>>343165831
He means that you should buy Fallout 4 and the Fallout 4 Season Pass, which will give them the funds they need to create the new technology.
The more copies of Fallout 4 and the Fallout 4 Season Pass we buy, the better Elder Scrolls VI will be.
>I'm a lazy shit
>just buy Skyrim Remastered
>people still aren't ready for paid mods
>we gonna hop on the VR-train after it sped up
take your pick
>>343165831
He meant that they'll never ever build a brand new engine from scratch.
>>343169664
I'd rather see a 64-bit remaster of Oblivion with DX12 support, and more (also better) voice acting.
>>343169373
baldurs gate came out before it and it became the narrative mold by which all bioware games are borne from, establishing the modern notion of "choices and consequences" game design that rpgs nowadays try to ape
What are the odds that Obsidian will step in to provide a game in the meantime?
>>343169841
The consolve version of Skyrim Remastered is basically you paying money for mods though, and people are gonna eat it up
>>343169895
35 percent chance.
>>343169693
arent those still bethesda's fault
gamebryo is just the skeleton
>>343169664
2048x2048
>>343169853
>making cash grab skyrim remastered
>they could have done oblivion
:_;
>>343169895
Unlikely considering Bethesda screwed them out of royalties
>>343168301
Spiral power is real?
>>343168541
Is there a modern engine that CAN'T do that?
>>343170037
Oh god I never thought of that.
I'm sad now.
>>343169934
And I hope modders give them nothing.
>>343170037
It is the 10th anniversary also....we got nothing.
Weres my Oblivion bros at? Comon. Group hug :(
>>343170178
I thought they're already bundling the most popular mods with the base game?
>>343165831
>we need Valve to socially engineer the steam userbase into thinking that paid mods are acceptable before we start development
>>343170037
>>343170170
>>343170225
Oblivion is shit though.
>can't even make a fully functioning fallout on current gen
>say shit like this
fire them
>>343170037
Oblivion would have needed far more than a remaster
>>343170234
HAHAHAAHA
no it's just the base game ported over the "f4" engine and nothing else.
>>343170273
>oblivion is shit
>>>/out/
>>343169895
>about 8 years till TES6 can happen
>Obsidian have less than fuck all to do in the meantime
I still doubt it'll happen, but a man can dream.
>>343170101
It's just business. Besides, both companies said they'd like to do something together again.
>>343170225
>>343170037
I get that Oblivion was your first TES game but can you stop gushing about how great it is? It was way worse than Morrowind
You'll understand what I mean in a few years when people start thinking Skyrim is the greatest TES ever
>>343170037
meme as much as you want, but Oblivion is far more fundamentaly broken than Skyrim
>>343169748
Neverwinter Nights simulates the experience of playing premade modules relatively well. But by the end of the game you've got the computer as your game master and your experience is quite constricted and railroaded as a result. And you can't really communicate with the computer. At the very least not properly.
>>343170170
I had some amazing mods for Oblivion, but even with the 4Gb patch and OC 980Ti the game would still crash every 15 mins.
>Lush beautiful scenery, as every single tileset had been completely redone
>Open cities
>Better dynamic lighting and effects (including full weather system with snow)
>Max fps 38fps @ 1080p
That game is so horribly optimised for modern hardware. And it's a shame too, because it's really quite spectacular with all the right mods.
>>343168541
Have you played Witcher 3?
>>343169895
>no Avellone
>no John Gonzalez
>Josh Sawyer more emboldened in his autism than ever
>>343170363
What's wrong besides the leveling system?
>>343165831
It means they dont have a game engine that does what they want to do. They also dont want to shovel out money for an engine that only sort of does what they want.
>>343170361
Well fuck you, asshole, Morrowind was my first tes and it sucked cocks.
Oblivion was 3000 times better.
Skyrim reached perfection.
Fight me, motherfucker.
>>343170361
Literally none of you faggots mentioned that Todd with his Studio is currently working on 2 new IPs. They will release before TESVI.
My bet that one of them is similar to GTA.
>>343170273
It has aged like milk, both mechanically and graphically sure.
But if it was remastered from the ground up to have the same polish as Skyrim, but keeping its original complexity and quests it could have been something nice.
But unfortunately, nothing nice ever fucking happens.
>>343170273
just like morroshit
>>343170482
You have to be older than 18 to post here, dumb frog
>>343170423
Avellone is still alive and freelancing. I'm sure he'd like to work on it, provided Sawyer lets him be hardcore for once.
>>343170361
It still has the best quests of the series. That matters for plenty of people, and I can't really blame them.
>>343170389
Which is really a problem with Oblivion - it needs some fucking fundamental modding to resolve problems and shitty design decisions. I have no idea how anyone can play that game on consoles with unfixed level scaling.
>>343170540
my bet is you like cock
>>343170565
and you too
i bet you piss your beds at night
faggots
the n word
>>343170389
Doesnt it only run on 1 core of the cpu? Ive heard something like that but im not sure.
>>343170482
I don't know what you're complaining about, sucking cocks is fun! Even get a prize at the end.
>>343165831
They need enough time to pretend they've created a new engine so they can say they did and just use Gamebryo again
>>343170423
>no Avellone
>no John Gonzalez
>implying they won't help with consulting if the opportunity is there
>>343170426
>faces
>animations
>combat
>voice acting
>the world
>dungeons
>redundant attributes
>butchered magic
>main quest and half the faction quests are shit
The game is shit desu.
>>343170482
no argue with that, started with morrowind nearly 10+ years ago. Still have nightmares fighting mudcrabs with bread knifes.
Shit is fucked up in austimo ways.
>>343170552
>But if it was remastered from the ground up to have the same polish as Skyrim, but keeping its original complexity and quests it could have been something nice.
And throw in better voice actors, instead rehashing the same 5 voices for every character.
I probably would've paid money for it, at least if the modding community got it behind it again.
>>343170540
nigga, only reason why bethesda can even rotate between fallout and tes is because they're trying to make them the same game at their core. they're that inept as a developer.
>reusing the same engine
>not cutting edge at anything
>~5 years average development cycle
for fucking what?
>>343170706
World, dungeons and quests are all fine
Of course visuals are shit
Newsflash elderscrolls combat has always been garbage
>>343170037
Shit, it's been long enough that I would actually play that.
Skyrim is too fresh in my mind for me to slog through all that shit again. I don't know if I'm a retard but ES games just don't have any replay value for me. I just consume whatever I can find that's new.
Any attempt at doing different shit feels like a test to see how long I can resist going stealth archer. It's not like vanilla melee is interesting and casting just ends with "I now summon a bunch of goons, and also a magical bow I shoot stealthily."
I can't bring myself to go for strict RP in a single player game either. Shame ESO sucks so much ass, and online ES game where it's just you sharing a world with 5-10 people would be fun.
>>343170630
Yeah, it was a massive fuck up of epic proportions. Thankfully there was a mod that set fixed levels for mobs based on how far away from towns/cities you were, or what kind of dungeon you were in. That actually made it playable.
>>343170482
>Skyrim reached perfection.
Now look, I love TES as a series and Skyrim is a lot better than /v/ gives it credit for, but if you seriously think it "reached perfection" then you're genuinely retarded or have some serious fucking blinders on.
>>343170423
More like no Jorge Salgado, man who fixed Oblivion with OOO and shat on Bethesda with his encounter design in New Vegas after Obsidian hired him for his modding history.
>>343170642
>Doesnt it only run on 1 core of the cpu?
I think you're right. I vaguely remember something about that. But moving to a 64-bit system would fix that.
>>343170796
>World, dungeons and quests are all fine
>this is what Oblivicucks actually believe
Fuck off back to R*ddit.
>>343170816
They onlymade it because porting to next gen is easy and they can charge the same as full price skyrim cost when it first came out
It will make so much money
Why not use id Tech? They own the engine, and would run on toasters well.
>>343170816
>stealth archer
it's the only way
>>343170647
>she never finishes
>>343171176
you gotta work on your dicksucking skills then, anon. she'll finish off a load of nice girl cummies in your mouth when you earn them
>>343165831
Fox engine!!!!
>>343171149
>As no surpise to anyone, Redguards quickly resorted to piracy as a way to provide for thier family.
>>343168325
Maybe not. Apparently Todd himself said it didn't end up working well.
>>343165831
a PC to run his buggy and unoptimized game does not exist yet
>Left-handed bolt action rifles.
>all characters are right handed
>all non-pipeshit revolvers are single-action
>>343170419
Witcher 3 felt like WoW with good graphics when it comes to world interactions
It's far from a sandbox like Skyrim
>>343171149
Always a good chuckle
>>343171569
>revolvers are single-action
>after new vegas
rrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343168445
>Because for all their flaws the previous games were pretty good at being RPGs
Gas yourself, now.
Todd is obviously lying, remember when Todd claimed that the next Fallout is still a far road ahead and they're """busy""" with """new""" project?
TES VI will be out next year and those G4TV hosts won't stop shilling for it
>>343168541
I also want to know this.
One of the things I love most about TES 4 and 5 are the hundreds of physics-enabled items that can be interacted with and looted.
I know lots of games have physics clutter, but in TES most of the items are actually something of value or interest, not just random rocks and clutter, even if there is some of that too.
It makes magic especially feel great and powerful when you launch a fireball and see the inventory of a room explode and bounce everywhere.
>mfw using Fus Rho Da down the length of a Jarl's long dinner table
>>343171569
>we finally get a lever-action rifle in Far Harbor
>the reload animation has you loading in 5 rounds no matter how many rounds you shot off every time
>>343166448
Heh
>>343168541
>>343172290
>you're now aware of the fact that bethesda games became progressively shitter as they introduced the havok physics engine in a gamebryo game
>>343172390
What the fuck
Why?
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD
>>343165831
>>the technology we need to create elder scrolls 6 doesnt exist yet
Surely our fabulous next gen wonderboxes aren't holding back games?!
>>343172390
That bothers me so fucking much.
It's such a simple fucking thing to do.
>>343172613
If consoles are holding back the next empty open world and boring dungeons shitfest from Bethesda, I owe them an apology
Thanks for holding back AAA games, consoles
>>343169170
Because it's shit, they should rewdo that engine a lot, but that would take time and money andwork
You know, like Gamebyro 2 or something. Keep the base ideas, but start from the ground up with new other recent tech that could help improve it. I'm not even really good with this stuff, but evolution seems like a natural thing to do, either that, or die.
>>343172390
That's literally the laziest design I've heard of in a long time.
![798[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/kMM00cU.png "798[1].png")
>>343172412
The stilted movement, shitty animations, lame combat and bland graphics have nothing to do with the physics engine faggot.
In fact one of the few things still good about the TES games are the object physics. The ragdolls are shit though.
>>343168541
any modern engine can
but devs wont enable them. because consoles
like this game here, graphic is bland as fuck, "open world" is literally road-large area-road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5bv4RIOc_s
if we stopped at this graphic level, game would have been much more interactive this gen.
>>343172752
Well they've got shitloads of shekels, so they can definitely afford it, and time ain't no thang but a chicken wing.
So the work is where they're fucked.
>gg nore
>>343166364
They call me sub zero cuz im freezing niggas.
>>343165831
He means that they need a couple of years to glue some new bells and whistles onto the gamebryo engine so they can show it off to everyone as a 'new engine' using TES6 as a demonstration.
>>343168325
Todd did say in an interview that the voiced protaganist didn't work out too well in the game.
So there might still be hope
>>343170796
hownu.ru
>>343172815
>the only thing that hasn't changed since oblivion is the only good thing
2000 called, they want their havok engine back
I bet It has something to do with modding on consoles
>>343170273
Oblivion has aged pretty badly mechanic wise, the combat is as stale as skyrims and the graphics are pretty shit.
But the things that keep this game so good imo are the stuff that don't age. like the godtier questlines and characters.
But i would still prefer a New vegas remake.
>>343173079
But the Geo-mod engine was a supreme beast of technology, anon.
The tech behind that fucking engine is insane.
>>343165831
Horseshit, we have the technology to invent GAI. The problem is that we don't have the knowledge to utilize our technology to its full effect yet.
Skyrim2 will come out in 5 years, not 4.
>spend hours decorating my Morrowind home with items
>it's fucking perfect
>spend hours decorating my Oblivion home with items
>stuff keeps sliding down drawers
>clipping through windows and objects all over the place
>items keep falling over
>spend hours decorating my Skyrim home
>open door
>every item in the room flies all over the fucking place
Technology, guys.
Also:
>RADIANT QUESTS
>"YO BRO, WANT TO BECOME BOSS OF THE THIEVES GUILD? GO TO [RANDOM TOWN] AND GET [RANDOM FORK/PLATE/SPOON]"
>repeat x10
>>343173517
it means they'll cut the voice but leave the godawful murdered lines of dialogue
>>343174158
I was actually hyped for the radiant quests in Fallout 4 because of the potential roleplaying with mods and stuff.
I was disappointed when i couldn't play Fallout 4 because of its shit optimization.also, you should really consider about using one of these item-locking mods for furniture and stuff, they work a wonder when decorating shit
>>343170419
Not him but its not even close. The most you will ever see is like when yenefer summons the portal in the castle and shit starts flying towards it. Even then, that isn't even remotely close.
>>343174304
>also, you should really consider about using one of these item-locking mods for furniture and stuff, they work a wonder when decorating shit
That's the problem with modern Bethesda games though - every time someone has a legitimate criticism people just say "well you can download a mod for that" when they shouldn't have to in the first place. Things should work by default and you should get mods to add more to the game, not fix it so it actually works the way they said it would before you bought it.You're probably an alright guy and I'm not even the guy you replied to, I just really felt like getting that off my chest because Bethesda's fallen so hard lately and they still rake in cash when they shouldn't be. Creating a game full of holes and then having the community fix it all for free is bullshit and no one should stand for this.
>Oblivion was a huge step up over Morrowind
>Skyrim was a huge step up over Oblivion
>People are surprised Hammerfall will be a huge step up over Skyrim
>>343171578
skyrims "sandbox" is just a bunch of shit that doesnt do anything though
>>343165831
>See that mountain? There's no mountain. You know why? Because in The Elder Scrolls VI: Tamriel you can build that mountain. You can build that mountain wherever you want, as big as you want. And then climb it, of course
>>343175708
kek
>>343174297
TES never had good dialogue, or any choice, stop talking about things you literally know nothing about
![Todd_666d41_5446678[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/59UpiRz.jpg "Todd_666d41_5446678[1].jpg")
>>343175708
>Our combat system is more intuitive and easy to use than ever! When you encounter an enemy all you need to do is hold the attack button and your character will automatically attack, move and defend in response to the enemy. We hope this streamlining will open the game up to a wider audience.
>>343174961
>>Skyrim was a huge step up over Oblivion
Don't be silly now.
But who knows, maybe TES6: Valenwood will be a step in the right direction, considering Todd has almost a decade to rethink his ways.
>>343165967
>Be the first to rate this post
>>343165831
he means he can't just open microsoft paint and use his imagination to generate a game.
>>343176341
he means graphically and it is. i don't think it was nearly as special at the time though. graphically, that is.
>>343167954
>cyrodil
>dagger fall
>>343169195
You really need to learn about the origins of rpgs before you spew us with your retardation. D&d started it all bioware was always trash
>>343176341
>>>Skyrim was a huge step up over Oblivion
>Don't be silly now.
Skyrim wasn't a great game by any means, but come on now. Play one after the other back to back. Oblivion had better depth, complexity and better quests, but Skyrim was a MAJOR improvement in the graphical, animation, and gameplay departement.
>>343176751
>D&d started it all bioware was always trash
Did you even read the post you responded to?
>>343165831
He means there's no way to make the walking city of Falinesti with current consoles and engines.
Imagine Caras Galadhron from Lord of the Rings suddenly uprooting and walking through Lothlorien on its roots, all coordinated as a single entity though it's built on many trees with bridges and stairs.
The whole city up and walks.
Imagine trying to render that on an Xbox One.
Imagine trying to interact with that and enter the city as its moving in Gamebryo.
He wants to set TES VI in Valenwood, and its not being made yet because he can't do Falinesti justice.
>>343165831
He finally admits Gamebyro is a shit engine for open world games.
>>343165831
Means no engine bethesda has has a button that makes a ladder work.
>>343167774
>>343165831
>What did he mean by this?
>We're waiting for Intel to develop a single core 10 GHz CPU.
>>343177387
Didn't Falinesti stop moving? (aka, the tower has become inactive, which is bad)
That always seemed like a setup to excuse themselves from making it move in future games they may or may not set there.
But then again. FO4 finally fixed physics for moving objects. And really, you could simply fake the whole thing by having the low res imposter version of the world moving around the stationary city. Then, when you're outside of the city, it's just a moving entity that the player and NPCs can walk around on to get inside or man guardposts.
>>343168427
>Post great Gamebryo games
>>343177725
it has a seasonal rotation with different resting sites.
So yeah, for much of the time, it'd be in one place, but .. it's easy in TES games to have months pass in game days, it wouldn't make sense for the city to be static through the entire game. Basically every 90 days It'd uproot and walk, and it'd take about 1 game day to move from one site to another (in a real world it'd take longer to move but we're talking the smaller scaled versions of provinces in TES games where an entire province is 16 square miles, that's not even one moderately sized city in real scaling)
>>343178038
plus we're also talking a really dense jungle. lots of foliage and undergrowth. Right now if they did it it'd be a hackjob and look like shit.
Why are people asking for TES6 already?
Do they want it to be rushed ffs? Just play ESO
>>343178938
>ESO
Is it any good though?
I thought about getting it because I miss mmo's
But I either heard nothing about it or just bad things, will I enjoy it when I loved Guild Wars and enjoyed Skyrim?
>>343179142
I haven't played it myself, but I've been to MMO threads where I've seen plenty of people saying they enjoy it. Most everyone agrees its way better than Skyrim at least.
>>343176201
>>343179310
Different anon and I've heard the opposite from this board. I might end up picking it up on Steam sale
>>343165831
>What did he mean by this?
>>343178938
>get the elder acrolls itch
>decide to log onto eso after not playing since 2015
>30 gb update
FUCK
>takes all day
>Fatal error 6
Welp.
>>343179395
>I've heard the opposite from this board
Well its like that with pretty much everything here, isn't it? Everything boils down to personal preference anyway, no matter how many people dislike a certain game.
Hell, I've got over 300 hours in Skyrim because mods and I don't care what anybody says.
>>343166186
what is fallout 4?
>>343179310
thanks I'll give it a try, it's buy2play and cheap as fuck now anyway
>>343172390
after playing new vegas i think it's pretty clear their engine can't handle interruptable reloads
>>343168830
>sacrificing a well developed game so 15 year olds can create big tits mods
grow up
>>343179585
Me too, but there were some comments about online being almost dead, etc.
I'm the same way, but I have 100+ hours, and have never finished the game. I just keep trying out new mods
>>343165983
>default player model and first area of the map complete
>time to give it a test run
>Skyrim 2 logo flashes across the screen, starts to load
>screen goes totally black and locks up
>smoke starts coming out of the PC
>BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
>Todd runs for the fire extinguisher, but can't reach it
>someone put the Big Boy Stool on top of the Mountain Dew machine
>Todd cannot climb it
>>343165831
This
>>343165831
no one has figured out how to program a ladder in a video game yet. or trains.
>>343170273
kys
>>343168301
>it's like some portal to late 90's developer where they don't give a fuck and make things work by sheer will.
This so much. Though they do come up with some weird but nice solutions. Like having the metro in FO3 be a hat and have an NPC run under the level.
>>343179142
actually it has a skill system that'll remind you a lot of Guild Wars 1 really. You have a decent sized selection of skills available, but only 10 skill slots (5 on each weapon bar) plus 1 ultimate skill slot on each bar. So total of 12 skills usable at one time. Some people use that as a way to detract from the game because your "efficient keybinds for 48 skills at once" isn't important, but you and I, having played GW1, understand that it makes your skill build more important, that you don't have every skill available to you at all times.
ESO combat is a combination of Elder Scrolls single player combat and Guild Wars 1.
>>343179395
I've heard you don't want to buy ESO on steam, because there's problems with the launcher and steam working together and you can't buy crowns through any means other than through steam.
You can check >>>/vg/146886167 for their recommendations on where to pick it up from probably cheaper.
>>343171062
Yeah like WTF, id tech 6 looks pretty good.
>>343171062
harder to mod.
Lack of mods would kill Elder Scrolls.
Why do people want TES6 when it means modders will have to restart all over again from scratch fixing a broken game, and when every subsequent release of a Bethesda game has had more and more RPG elements stripped from it?
Skyrim is just now becoming an amazing game thanks to mods and you want them to release a new TES and kill it all?
I think the only people who want a new TES game are consolefags who can't fathom the greatness of mods.
>>343182957
>Skyrim is just now becoming an amazing game thanks to mods
>Skyrim 2 will fuck mods in the ass
T-t-thanks, based Todd.
>>343165831
Faggot's just tugging his own cock, there's nothing technically impressive about Bethesda games, they're all fuck ugly and are glitchy as hell, not to mention the size of the open worlds are nothing to marvel at.
But who knows, maybe we'll be able to climb mountains this time.
>>343182957
what mods actually fix the game to make it fun? i got a lot of time to play vidya once my conscription ends and i thought about giving skyrim another shot
>>343168445
'Actual' roleplaying games feature way less actual roleplaying, bozo. They're a compilation of flakes. Non stop flakes.
>>343165831
by "technology" he means the next generation of gullible people that are willing to spend weeks of their life modding the hell out of Bethesda's games after they've released them so they become playable
>>343165831
That they realized that the broad masses are on to their scheme, and that an autonomous AI doing all the work they pretended they did to this day is not yet invented, so no one can actually make a TES6 that would not stink of their usual incompetence.
>>343183732
>'Actual' roleplaying games feature way less actual roleplaying, bozo.
Like?
>inb4 if you can´t make a character it is not an RPG.
"See those mountains?
we didn't model them, they grew themselves"
>>343182957
They do it over again over again with Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and the TES games. Seems like some of the mods are easy to port over to each new game. That's what I noticed when a new game is released, you'll always see the same hair mods
