Is kickstarters reputation scarred forever?
>>343165647
Nah, just not enough nostalgia.
Shenmue 3 got a lot remember.
It's more just that the retarded hypetrain has passed reality has come crashing down.
People swindle and are bad with budgets, throwing money at something doesn't make a good game happen and people found out the hard way.
looks like there is a demo
>>343165819
I dunno I think it's just no one cares about the project.
Not too long ago bloodstained blew passed anyone's expectations but then again SOTN is a well loved game and still popular among like speedrun circles and stuff in a way System Shock/2 really aren't. System Shock is kinda this niche product no one really wants now.
>>343165647
Yes.
But 1/3rd of their goal isn't bad. I doubt they'll break 1.5 mill, but what can you do.
>>343165647
Yes really, System shock is good but going though the while funding process is such a chore and hoping over the time period they don't mess it up, also all the kickstarter crap like 'get your face in the game' really puts a downer and cynicism on the whole thing.
Night Dive is a fucking awful company, and they didn't even need to kickstart this, they did so out of pure greed.
>>343165885
It's a little short for my taste but it's not bad. I understand it's pre-alpha, but it felt to short to really make a judgement on. Hopefully we'll get something more later on.
>>343166731
>$200k to make Mac and Linux versions when it's literally the push of a button in Unity3D
You don't say.
>>343166731
What's wrong with Night Dive?
If it weren't for them bringing System Shock out of copyright limbo, System Shock 3 wouldn't be happening right now
it ran like garbage on my pc
>>343165647
This is day number 1. Mighty No 9 and Double Fine poisoned the Kickstarter well, but this will still get funded.
>>343167228
Their System Shock EE is stolen work from a modding community. And if that wasn't bad enough, they hit the original modders with a cease and desist to force them to take their mod down so people would be forced to buy their ill gotten remake.
Why is there no AA in this piece of shit
>>343167378
>this will still get funded
I hope not. There's no way these fucks can be trusted not to ruin System Shock. Especially if that garbage demo is anything to go by.
>>343167317
It ran well on mine but there was a lot of stuttering despite the framerate staying above 80.
>>343165647
>Got one third it's funding in one fucking day
Of course kikestarters reputation isn't fucked. Some people will be cautious, but countless fucking retards will still throw their money at half baked promises and fill the devs wallets, funding stretch goals and then giving even more money due to "tight budgets"
>>343165647
nah they just have to have something significant to show before begging for money
>>343167317
lower resolution helped me a great deal but yeah even the minimum requirements are pretty high
>>343167402
it's not stolen you idiot
>>343167454
Night Dive literally buy dead franchises that other publishers will never touch and keep them available. Why is this bad?
>>343167317
What are your specs? I have an older gpu (about 4 years) and it ran perfectly fine for me. No stuttering or frame drops.
>>343167416
Pretty sure I read a dev comment in a previous thread saying it's the art direction for the game. Image got posted but I didn't save it.
>>343167402
Do you talk out of your ass often?
The people who made SSP worked DIRECTLY with Night Dive Studios to help make the enhanced edition.
Night Dive didn't steal shit, and the fan modders took SSP down voluntarily. They say so themselves on the forums.
>>343167593
>aliasing is art direction
What the fuck?
>>343167317
>game looks 5+ years old
>runs like garbage
I wonder why this could be
>>343167535
Because they're dishonest and crooked. See
>>343167402
Also, they've already made it clear as day that they're going to destroy the game by dumbing it down for a newer audience.
>>343167634
also you can still get System Shock Portable from them, but it doesn't include any of the game's data files
>>343167593
crossfire 2GB 6950
>>343167634
That isn't what happened at all. Do you work for Night Dive or something?
>>343167682
Doon't quote me on it, but yeah in the last thread I saw earlier on /v/ someone talked about how there was AA or texture filtering and they made a dev comment saying how it was the art direction they were taking. I can't find the image that was posted for it.
>>343167751
>Because they're dishonest and crooked. See >>343167402
And you see >>343167634
and https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=8030.0
>I'm quite impressed what a little cooperation between the IP owners and the community can accomplish. That reminds me, the Night Dive team says hello, and thanks everyone for all the support and mods
They helped make it, Night Dive didn't fucking steal shit. You could have found this out for yourself after two seconds of googling.
Quit talking out of your fucking ass.
>>343167801
>crossfire
Found the problem here
>>343167868
wasn't any AA or TF my bad pretty tired.
>>343165647
it was never anymore than a cult series. i like system shock but they overestimated it's fanbase. just like deus ex and thief, loud but small. and it doesn't even play like system shock 1 but system shock 2 which doesn't even please anyone because people who say they like system shock 2 dont play system shock 2
>>343167518
The fact that this isn't getting funded by the first day is a step in the right direction. I doubt they are going to get the money they actually want for the game.
>>343167402
so what? modders take for fucking ever to release anything. at least now this will come out within this century.
>>343167593
>>343167682
the art direction thing is about the filter to give the textures a "chunky" "retro" look it works pretty well but i hope it's optional anyway
>>343167778
>>343167634
portable was just the original game + mods obviously they can't distrubute the original game anymore and voluntarily took it down but the mods are still available
the guy that made SHLINK (which is basically EE) worked with night dive to make it the official release
>>343167826
no, that is exactly what happened go read the systemshock.org posts
>>343167826
Google for two seconds and you'll see that that IS what happened. Night Dive didn't steal anything
>>343167976
pretty sure deus ex fanbase has gotten larger. especially with a new game around the corner. it's not like thief or ss at least. man, I'd love a deus ex remake though. this really could use it.
>>343165885
The demo is pretty good compared to what I expected from the latest gameplay video. You can change the strength of the Sparq by pressing F for example (this was my biggest fear since I thought they were going to simplify the weapons), and apparently most of the omissions like missing audio logs aren't included in the demo because it's an early as fuck build.
Kickstarter can only fund small games for a video game 1 million is just a few pennies. As the chink would say you get what you paid for. Although there is some obvious thieves like that shitty RPG that some guy wanted to put on Dreamcast.
>>343165647
>355k
>29 days left
wat
>>343168047
They're gonna get the 900k easily, they already have a third in just one day.
I doubt they'll get many stretch goals, but it doesn't matter. They'll still pocket a shit ton and then claim the budget was tight when they release the piece of shit. There's literally no consequences to them just taking an easy payday and half assing the game.
Hell if they bitch enough they'll get articles written about them.
>I'M SO STRESSED
Some kickstarters work fine, some don't.
It's like yelling at someone for your bad investment.
So does the remake have the leaning system from the original or did they cut that out so they could allow controller play
>>343167801
Yeah man you may want to look into upgrading.
>>343168063
Yeah I saw a lot of people complaining about it, but it doesn't particularly bother me. It kind of works in this situation. I can understand why though.
Isn't SS1 or 2 being redone by an independent team of modders? Heard it was just a map viewer right now and in open source. Pretty sure ND was okay with it as long as they didn't try to sell it.
>>343168283
You can still lean. Just finished the pre-alpha a second time to test shit.
>>343168140
>You'll be able to improvise a shitty flashlight by using the Spark laser at minimum firepower again.
EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
>>343168136
>man, I'd love a deus ex remake though
you need to kill yourself then. only the first deus ex is moderately popular and thats because its shilled in every top 100 list on this website as the greatest game of all time. wouldn't be the same if the animations and cutscenes werent all fucking garbage anyways
>>343165647
ugh no one care about some shitty game from the stone age fuck off
>>343168345
But is it the same type of modular lean system that was in the original or is it just press Q/E to tilt the camera instantly
>>343168283
You can lean, it feels a bit different though and you can only stand or crouch in the demo, no idea if they'll change this in later builds.
>>343168591
The later.
>>343168296
it's better than just re-releasing it with dosbox which is something they could have done or ss2 without ss2tool making it completely broken
there was one guy doing a 1:1 remake in unity called citadel on moddb but i think it has been abandoned since EE and this new remake
>>343168591
from the looks of the trailer it looks more like the lean from SS2, not the insane 45+ degree lean
>>343168591
Thanks doc.
>>343167593
he was talking about AF, not AA
>>343167714
because the developers don't know how to optimize their game
>>343168657
>citadel
>https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=6977.0
looks kinda shitty honestly, looks pretty much exactly like the original except with 3D monsters instead of sprites
>>343168778
yeah that was pretty much the idea
it was going to have co-op and deathmatch as well
>>343165647
>350+ for a game that's not hyped by everyone and their mothers.
That's a good amount of money for just the first day.
>>343165647
It's just a remake so I don't really care in the first place, already played it a while ago and it was fine.
Kikestarter consistently proving that it's shit obviously doesn't help either.
>>343168778
That would have been so much better than the abomination we're getting now.
>>343168920
How bad is it?
>>343168591
>modular lean system
It was a crutch to play with mouse only, like if you are disabled and have only one hand. It would be nice if they had something like this as optional control, but your typical fps player doesn't care about it.
>>343168140
It's a fuck ton more positive to see a demo rather then just videos or even just concept art. For a kickstarter to have a demo is impressive and that's fucking sad.
>>343168947
'We want the bioshock infinite audience' bad.
>>343165647
on one hand i dont want this shit to fail but on the other hand i've seen too many kickstarter backers get burned to ever want to back any game
maybe i'll wait a few days and see how it's going
>Kickstarter should have been the thing that revitalizes and expands niche genres.
>It's been abused and misused so much that now people don't want to use it, dooming those niches back to the void.
Thanks, humans.
there are a few things different from the original. instead of two cameras there are three in the starting area. no dartgun under the stairs either and running speed has been halved. and an animation for everything which pisses me off, so its not a 1:1 remake. how the fuck do you read emails?
>>343168920
It's being developed, memer man, nigh dive wouldn't shut it down
>>343168984
I think every videogame kickstarter should include a demo by default. That way people can know not only the quality of the concept but this also forces the devs to work at least a little bit first before earning thousands of shekels.
>>343169082
read emails from the inventory menu tab i guess but it doesn't work
neither does berserk/stamina patches, grenades or batteries
>>343169093
Doesn't make terrible reboots any more acceptable, shill man.
>>343169041
Any example?
>>343169041
Explain. I've played both and I'm not seeing the connection.
>>343169134
I want the same, but sadly kickstarter doesn't require you to put out.
>>343169173
then how the fuck am i supposed to know the keycode? also didnt keycodes used to be 4 digits?
>>343169082
I suppose there's only two weapons in the demo and no emails because it's an early build. Hope I'm not wrong and they include the emails and weapons in the final release.
>>343169231
No, they're all 3 digits in SS1.
>>343169231
It's written in blood right next to the door. Lame as fuck but hopefully they made it this way just for this early build.
>>343169191
>>343169196
>no interaction between the hud and the world
>60° fov view model (battleborn style)
>utterly shite animations that pale compared to the original sprite work
>no mention of diego or implants
>no "I'll be the king of the net" diary entry
>code to door lazily written next to it
>no audiolog screen
>no map screen
>developed with xbone in mind
>2 weapon limit
>no overcharge for energy gun
>no cyberpunk techno music
>Start a Kickstarter during a Steam sale
The madmen....
It'll hopefully pick up after people get paid at the end of the month.
I think most of these kickstarters should try pitching these games to publishers first before making a kickstarter, the old schaffer excuse isn't applicable with all these games.
>>343169473
you're such a fucking shitposting nigger
i havent played the game and know there are implants, some live streamer showed the trailer and it fucking very much had implant chips shown, and installed in first person
stop being cancer
>>343169473
I mean you do realize a lot of this explained by it being a pre-alpha build right? Maybe you're used to AAA alphas and betas where it's basically the main game. I hope you're not this stupid.
>>343169473
>60° fov view model (battleborn style)
Stopped reading there, it's 90 by default.
>>343169498
I wouldn't be surprised if they've already got a publisher backing it up and they just want extra kikestarter money
The IP has way too much of a cult following not to have funding from a big publisher
>>343169498
>>343169773
nightdive is the publisher they just don't actually make the games they publish so i guess this one would be the first
i like the new circuit wiring idea and also it runs really well on my toaster. hope that doesn't change too much
>daily reminder that weapon settings and alt-ammo types are at 1.7 million strechgoal.
>>343169231
>how am I supposed to know the key code?
It's the same 3 digits it's been in every PC game since '94, anon.
>>343169948
actually that's not true I think they were involved with spirits of xanadu
>>343170053
>remixing the original tunes is 1.9m goal
it's pretty shitty, they should just do it anyway
you guys think this will get funded? don't successfull scamstarters usually make 50% or more on the first day?
>>343170053
Mechanical complexity is one of the things that set SS1 above the more action-oriented games it emulated - "DOOM that forces you to use your brain" - and they're making it a stretchgoal?
>>343170078
all? its another shit fahrenheit 451 reference but its in literally the first 30 seconds of any game its in and its forgettablebecause the book wasn't even all that good
>>343170127
System Shock is incredibly niche. I kinda want to pledge 150€, but I'm very skeptical because it's a multi-platform title with xbone support.
>>343170127
Indivisible did terribly for the first week. And the second.
30% is comparatively a lot. At the very least it'll amble over the finish line, but I don't expect them to actually be able to make the game on that budget.
>>343170127
yeah it will
i reckon it will get to 1m but not much further
>>343170171
(((Steven Kike)))
>>343165647
>reimagination
>we want the modern nu-gamer audience!
>as art school bachelors we will take the liberty to rewrite and reimagine the story because we are a bunch of narcissistic, self-absorbed douche fags who sit with their Macs at Starbucks, sipping frappuchinos
>we will also change the level design
Fuck them, I hope it doesn't get funded.
>>343165647
>People still haven't learned after tim's double scam adventure
MN9 was their failt only
>Backing any kickstarter shit anyway
>>343170362
>le cynical gamer xd
>>343170323
Combined with their cheeky fucking stretch goals, there goes any hope I had for this piece of shit.
>>343165647
it won't be until chris roberts hangar simulator hits the ground
imagine how hard it will be to kickstart anything after that
>>343170428
Ebin
>>343170323
>art school bachelors we will take the liberty to rewrite and reimagine the story
I beg you pardon?
>>343170240
to be fair
the devs of indivisible did shill their game 24/7 to waifufags on /v/, system shock doesn't have that luxury
>→ $1.7m Goal : Enemy limb dismemberment, More puzzles, Ammo types/weapon settings, Vending machines, Basic components/research, RPG progression, Weapon upgrading, Hardcore mode (No respawning), Ironman mode (Only 1 savegame. If you die, the save is deleted)
Fuck off
>>343170053
Where does it say that.
I thought the SS IP was owned by some Chinese company.
>>343170748
There >>343170696
If it didn't shatter after Ouya, if it didn't crush after Tim Schafer, it wouldn't burn after Mighty Number 9.
There are still Shantae and YL to restore faith.
>>343170538
I dunno why they need chris, the story is literally already written for them
>>343170323
Most of the devs are veteran ex-LGS, Ion Storm and Irrational. Plus Chris fucking Avellone. Get informed before saying stupid shit.
>>343170210
It's not exactly a reference to the book. It's an LGS in-joke from their college days (something about the number of their locker IIRC). I agree the book was pretty forgettable though.
>>343170053
Yeah, this is kinda bullshit.
>>343165798
>>343165819
>>343166109
>Not even 24 hours after the campaign started and already have more than 350k dollars
>Instant blunder because it shoul've been funded in 15 seconds
what could they be /v/
>>343167416
The original art style doesn't translate very well to modern 3d. Looks like candy color as it is.
>>343170892
451 was the door code for the old looking glass offices
>>343170912
>52 million
>elevator music, levels 4, 5, and 6, and a companion system
>>343167416
Because it's a very early build.
unity is such a shit engine
it runs like crap
>>343165647
>29 days to go
jesus christ you impatient fuck,
>>343170912
>3 trillion
>they build an actual citadel station and launch it into orbit around jupiter
>>343171024
>companion system
Hacker, catch!
>>343171083
the fuck are your specs? runs stable on ati radeon 5870 and an intel i7 870 with 4 gigabytes of ram
>>343171083
You have no idea what you are talking about. They are using global illumination and PBR. That stuff is a resource hog and the reason why it was cut from UE4.
>>343167317
>pre-alpha
>isn't optimized at all
wow
crazy how something like shadowrun makes 1.5 million easily and this struggles to get funded
>>343171103
>tfw want this
>>343171024
Elevator music better fucking be in the remake.
>>343171503
>struggles
>more than 30% already after 15 hours
>>343171052
no. because the dev is retarded
>>343165647
this pile of shit will get funded, dont worry
>>343171503
i want to pledge but it coming to xbone has lost me. i can already see the changes from the demo such as slower movement and i hate the fire mode shit (one button with 10 second animation each 4 notches verses a slider sucks dick). wont pledge, ill just remain cautious, and if it fails ill just play the original
Chris Avellone is shilling it. Why aren't you, /v/?
>>343170827
Maybe to make the audio and the written text match this time round.
>>343170696
>please give us an extra million for basic features
lol
>>343171830
i wonder why a developer would shill work he was working on
>>343170696
>tfw don't want even half of these but what i do want i really want
why the fuck does every game need rpg progression systems? so fucking stupid god damn
Isn't this a good thing? Why do so many people hate this remake so bad? When the first footage was revealed everyone was blown away.
>>343170696
Thanks, Mr. Skeletal
>>343169065
Patreon is more reliable anyway. The results are easier and quicker to see. No doubt Kickstarter hype died.
>>343172116
The footage was great. The demo and campaign is not. This isn't a hard concept.
>>343171830
He's part of the team developing it you goofball.
>>343172116
Nostalgiafags being nostalgiafags. These faggots have no idea how good they have it, this is the best you could hope for with a remake/reboot. If they want to see how bad things can get, they should go see the Fallout series.
>>343172467
>200 thousand extra for linux/mac ports
>1 million extra for remixed music
>no! bad goys! stupid nostalgiafags you should be grateful this great game is coming to the Xbox OneTM
>>343170912
>They are actually expecting to reach more than the funding goal for a niche as fuck game of 20 years ago
>>343169065
More like thanks Mr. Shitface and Conman.
>>343167214
In theory it's a push of a button but in reality there can be a lot of small things that don't work the same on different platforms.
>>343167317
It ran fine on my 10 year old desktop, git gud.
>>343172712
Who gives a fuck about mac or linux.
>>343169689
Still havent learned, what you see is what you get, there is no main game.
>>343169187
It's doing good so far, baka stupei
>>343171830
Because I'm not getting paid.
man the demo looks and plays exactly like that space janitor game
>>343173179
it kinda does, lol
>>343169473
>>no interaction between the hud and the world
He literally installs the fucking chips to his head when you start playing the demo.
>>60° fov view model (battleborn style)
FOV slider in the options, 90 default.
>>utterly shite animations that pale compared to the original sprite work
The animations are fairly decent.
>>no mention of diego or implants
>>no "I'll be the king of the net" diary entry
>>code to door lazily written next to it
>>no audiolog screen
>>no map screen
One and a half years to release, barely anything is done at this point.
>>developed with xbone in mind
How about no.
>>2 weapon limit
Dunno about this, only saw 2 weapons in the demo.
>>no overcharge for energy gun
It has 4 fire modes.
>>no cyberpunk techno music
DEVELOPMENT BUILD.
1/5 made me reply
>>343169473
You are very, very stupid.
>>343169473
>my list of autistic complains has now become copypasta
Not sure how I feel about this.
>>343169771
Do you know what a view model is? Hint: It's not the camera.
>powered by unity
dropped into the bottomless trash bin
>>343173353
>but its only a beta
They already confirmed that they hate the original soundtrack and that its getting replaced with generic horror shit.
>FOV slider in the options, 90 default.
View model fov != camera fov, you twat. Have you never played a Source game or something?
>>343172467
Nostalgia fags don't care about graphics though. So why would they care about any of this? Its obviously meant for a new generation
>>343173556
>>343173670
>Complaining about the fucking view model of a pre alpha built.
What the fuck are you expecting?
are the textures kinda pixel-y on purpose?? if they are that's fine just wanna make sure my gpu is not fucking up.
steam overlay was reporting 70+fps but the movement still fells really sluggish.
levels design seems really cramped as well.
>>343173948
>Its obviously meant for a new generation
Fuck off. Your lucky the game hasn't been dumbed-down with shit like objective markers.
>hey guys, remember these old shitty games we stopped making because frankly people don't want them anymore
>well, now you get to pay us to make them!
>>343174394
>people don't want them anymore
If people didn't want them, they wouldn't get funded and bought.
>>343174480
People don't know what they're getting into. That's why these scams only work when you make people pay up front.
>>343174531
I'm just glad we have you, the special snowflake world-class genius who knows what we want better then we do, to tell us what to think.
>>343172768
>System Shock
>niche
underaged b&
>>343174586
Most people have already figured this out. Some by being exceptionally enlightened from the start (i.e. yours truly) and some by getting burned by similar scams. It's only fair that we together work to warn the rest.
>>343174586
t. MN9 backer
>>343174692
Actually I've never backed a single game on any of these crowdfunding sites. This may be my first though.
>systemshock remake
I should be hyped but since it's a kickstarter I don't know what to feel.
actually just finished the demo,never played the first two but that doesn't seem so ... bad
the only thing are the wonky graphics (took me a while to see that you could interact with the switch and not have to find a missing piece)
oh and the spiders too, fuck em
>>343174179
It's a design decision, some people butthurt over this
I can't enjoy the demo because it crashes every 5 minutes, but for those that could play it does it live up to the original? Would you recommend the remake or the original for a first time player?
It looks better than the Underwold preview. God that looked terrible.
>>343175220
its completely different to the original and closer to ss2
it's definitely gonna be more accessible than the original
Never played SS.
Should I buy the enhanced edition that's on steam right now?
>>343174826
Are you for real? Trigger warning: terrifying spider image
>>343175220
I liked it, the UI is different and the first "puzzle" is different but it's pretty good for an early build. Changing fire modes is kinda slow though.
>>343175220
Remake, unless you love the idea of an FPS that feels like a point and clickI do. Still its too early to say, since they are in the process of butchering the atmosphere. If you like cheesy 90's retro futuristic cyberpunk shit, go for the original. If you like SS2/Deadspace/Bioshock atmosphere go with the remake.
>>343175380
Give it a try. The control scheme is fine. Just mouselook only to quickly turn around and use the gui instead of hotkeys. It's a pretty unique experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnh0l_Ecpx4
>>343165885
Holy fuck you're right. That's insane. I'm actually pretty glad a game in this day and age has a fucking demo.
>>343175246
Underworld Ascendant? I thought that looked pretty good
>>343165647
Literally nobody cares about System Shock. It lacks the Nostalgia and promise that fueled Shenmue 3 and Bloodstained to such heights. A few neckbeards here and there heard about it and will put the cash down. Frankly, System Shock wasn't ever really good in the first place, hence the lack of real support.
>>343175617
And demo has no game. It's just a good marketing practice for successful kickstarter to have something to show (unlike Romero)
>>343175705
>350.000+ in the first day
>No one cares
>>343175647
I dunno, didn't liked how the playable character never stopped talking.
>>343174596
He's right though. Nobody bought it the first time around and by the looks of thing, nobody is interested in the remake.
>Man this is dated (Original)
>Play for one hour
>Can't even feel it's dated anymore, immersive as fuck and great OST
Feels good.
The death animations of the zombie mutants needs to be more violent, it looks pretty lame at the moment.
>>343175705
Epic meme.
>>343175786
>Literally nobody cares about System Shock
why did the steam of SS2 sell so well then?
>>343175898
I'm playing it for the first time, picked combat level 3 thinking that the enemies would be stronger but now the enemies are respawning. But so far the game is pretty fucking excellent, wish the healing and energy machines weren't free or had infinite uses though, it makes things a bit easier and not in the good sense.
>1/3 of the way day 1
It'll probably get funded. These types of things slowly get more money over time and then reach their goal right before the days are up.
can you not drink the cans of soda you find?
>>343176154
The last day is the most important one, a lot of projects that apparently aren't going to make it end up gaining a shit ton of money on the last day.
![077085105d5f96a1c0f66b7783ec2ab6_original[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/iJaqGcg.png "077085105d5f96a1c0f66b7783ec2ab6_original[2].png")
I'm thinking to buy myself developer forums access so that I can convince them to keep the point and click elements of the hud and to fight against console casualisation.
>250€
Should I do it, bros?
>>343176203
no and you can't vaporize them either
I hope they improve the melee combat, I kinda like it but it needs to be way more polished.
Is anyone else having this strange bug with the alpha where the mouse just point upwards and rotates? I can't get it to fucking stop.
>>343176423
No, because your opinion will be drowned out by the 3 yesman who post in every topic.
>>343176725
Melee isn't exactly the most relevant SS1 mechanic.
>>343176795
unplug your gamepad
i know its early but are they using this compass across the screen instead of the minimap?
>>343172909
that isn't the point, its literally 1 button in the unity engine and they are charging 200 thousand dollars for that. nevermind the fact half the game is behind the extra kickstarter payment goals
>>343175898
>>343176061
I also started the enhanced edition yesterday.
Pretty good so far, a shame I didn't pick this up back at the time, should have blown my young impressionable mind.
>>343175898
>great OST
Man everyone says that but those random mechanical bleeps and bloops make it a headache to listen to. Halfway through I just turned off the music and listened to other music.
>>343167214
The sad thing is if they just asked for 200k more in the base kickstarter, or created a separate kickstarter with a 200k goal for Mac and Linux I'd be more likely to chip in for that. As it is they've sort of screwed themselves because no Linux user is going to contribute until the Linux version is confirmed, and at the same time after fiascos like D:OS and Skullgirls Linux users are far less likely to throw money at games just because somebody mentions Linux.
>>343178656
Linux is hardly a big demographic to begin with.
>>343171052
AA isn't something that you just code into an engine when you feel like it. It needs to be supported properly at the root of the engine, or you end up stuck with FXAA or other fake AA blurrovisions.
>>343179372
Linux is the 1%. Small but with deep pockets. That's why despite the small size of the market numerous vendors cater to us.
>>343179725
>but with deep pockets
But they use a free OS.
>>343165647
It has like 28 days left, what the fuck are you even talking about?
If it's not past $600k with a week left, then you can be concerned.
>>343179803
That means we have more money to spend on other things. The median income of a Linux user is much higher than that of a Windows user, you're a dime a dozen, while we're rare and in demand.
>>343179990
You're a stretch goal.
>A kickstarter wasn't funded in one night thus its a massive failure and shows that one one likes kickstarter.
Kek. Its indivisible all over again.
>>343180048
That just means they won't get my money until they hit that point. Its a dumb move on their part, Night Dive have been very good at supporting Linux in the past since they generally don't make the mistake of using platform-specific code. If they'd included it in the main campaign they would have gotten my money sooner.
Is there a way to open this door in demo? Is there universal unity noclip command or something?
How do i grenades? G does nothing, activating it from the belt too
>>343180818
inb4 this turns into another fucking resident evil 7 demo
>>343181057
There is no point in mysteries for ss remake, i just wanted to see how much of level there is beyond what we've seen
>>343170715
Creepy.
>>343167416
I do think it's pretty cool how they're clearly trying to alter the original game as little as possible. The maps look the exact same they did in 199X. At the same time, I'm not sure if I actually WANT a System Shock 1: HD Edition.
>>343170912
Romanceable Shodan
>>343181396
Shodan is already tsundere as fuck for you.
>Look at you, hacker: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
Maybe I'd be more interested if the demo downloaded properly.
>>343181705
Demo is garbage anyway.
>>343180818
>a metal d
>>343180818
They kept the dumb fucking unreadable bio-meter, but got rid of the minimap?
I like the tone of the demo and I hope this gets funded, but once again it's a System Shock game with the most retarded combat.
Seems a little TOO faithful if you ask me.
>>343181892
Isn't the minimap like a thing that you have to collect?
>>343181469
>It was I who chose you and I who had a robotic servant render your form unconscious. I then completed you with cybernetic grace. Your flesh, too, is weak. But you have... potential. Every implant exalts you. Every line of code in your subsystems elevates you from your disgusting flesh. Perhaps you have potential. Perhaps once we have erased my wayward children from existence, we can examine the possibilities of a real alliance.
>>343180818
>>343181057
There is this thing. You start seeing through the wall once you bust all the lights in the medical room.
>>343182268
It could be a debug room, or an unfinished area glitching through the wall. The bright lights look a bit like cyberspace though.
>>343182093
Nah, it just starts out empty on each floor and the MFD fills it in as you explore.
>>343182413
I swear to fuck, if they're going to "re-imagine" the game they better at least make Cyberspace less absolute shit.
I'd be surprised if they meet any stretch goals, but I'm sure they'll get ~$1m no problem. The pre-alpha demo shows they're not completely incompetent when it comes to technical things, so I'm sure the gameplay will be acceptable. But I have my doubts they won't fuck up other aspects of the game to try and appease modern gamers, especially for consoles.
>>343165647
>shit "remake" that changes the content
Id like to think its because of this but I know SS is just not that popular these days.
Just tried to not take any implants and they let me wander off with just pipe and keycard.
But i keep crashing before the dark long hallway mutant.
The most recent KS release is MN9, and we all know how that turned out. Plus, not on the PS4 and the audience for this sees those stretch goals as laughable.
This will probably make it to the initial goal, but that's it.
>>343167416
There is. If there wasn't it would look 10x as bad
>>343165647
>Game doesn't get funded instantly
>Waaa why is KS dead?!
>>343183362
scam =/ dead
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock/
It's trending toward 6mil
What exactly are you talking about?
>>343174596
The game was a niche game.
It got a sequel because even niches games could be had been profitable enough to make a sequel in that time.
I'm surprised that they ask more than 2 millions to make the game "like it's supposed to be" with their kind of view.
I don't think a game like this need sugh high amount of money to make.
PS: There is even maxof2d, which make me even less likely to back it anyway, even if there is Chris Avellone on board.
>>343183497
It's not niche, it just had an awful fucking forced release that reviewed horribly.
These dudes had already released two Ultima Underworlds and this is just a sci-fi version of that. This was their market.
>>343183467
The pace is always high for know franchises the first day and then drop rapidly, see the estimate in a few days.
>>343165647
it will be funded, who cares
>>343178656
>Suggesting they split up kickstarters and cause confusion among all backers
That's fucking idiotic
And it looks like MN9 was /v/'s most recent TORtanic event. Now everyone wants to be cool and act like everything coming out of kickstarter is doomed to fail
>>343183702
So what do you think it's "really" trending towards?
>>343183787
I think they'll get a bit over one mill, like 1.2.
Although if it get more exposure from e-celebs it might get higher than that.
is the first SS worth playing? Like how does it hold up today?
>>343183904
These things never drop off that fast. They're in the market for at least 3 million. The end of campaign bounce is almost always around the same or more than the initial opening pledges
>>343172082
cus it gives a sense of character progression and something to plan out and look forward to in the future.
>>343183991
Played it not too long ago. Weird difficulty spikes, clunky as fuck movement, and you basically need to bukkake the map in notes to be able to navigate at all.
But otherwise not that bad, I guess. The H R Giger fleshmaze last level was p cool.
>>343183991
I dunno but I tried to play SS2 for the first time in 2015 and it was a clunky piece of shit with quickload-tier difficulty. I imagine 1 can't be any better
>No PS4 version
It's like they hate money
>Count me in as another "NO" vote on the RPG mechanics/progression part. The original was/is unique and doesn't need to look or feel like a Bioshock type game (please no!). This is coming from a cRPG stalwart from the RPG Codex but I still don't want it in THIS game. Also, forget the orchestral music... does not fit System Shock at all. The original soundtrack (or variation of it) is the right way to go and spend any additional resources.
I think there's some dissonance between the original fanbase of System Shock and what this KS wants to do
