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>IGN claims it's bad
>Players think it's amazing
I've just played it myself for about two hours and it seems like a pretty solid RPG, with plenty to explore and a lot of lore behind the world and story itself. The combat is simple but great.
What do you think?
Shovelware
>>343164860
It's a game made for genre enthusiasts who need to lower standards by default if they want to experience more games because not everything is polished AAA GOTY. Big reviewing sites tend to separate everything into three categories: big shill games, indie darlings and "we can throw this under the bus if we have to". Technomancer seems to be the latter.
>not waiting for RPG Codex review
>>343164860
how many people voted for 9.1 rating? maybe it's just 2 or 3
I've been playing off and on today. It really isn't bad. It's not the witcher of course, but the setting is refreshing. Kinda reminds me of mass effect in some ways. Will continue to play.
>>343164992
>cancerous rpg codex shitter actually announcing he's from there
holy fuck you are cancer
go back there and stop shitposting 4chan you cancerous little fuck
>>343164860
>out of 10 ratings
>>343164860
It's like a clunky Witcher meets Mass Effect. I like it, but that doesn't mean everyone will.
who on earth even gives credence to ign after mass effect 3?
>>343164860
>No sponsor ads
>no launch party
>no 'gift' for reviewer
into 5.0 you go!
>generic Red Faction setting with awful combat that was incompetently ripped off from the Batman games
>bad graphics
>bad voice acting
>bad animations
>bad writing
Not a good game, IGN's score is accurate.
>>343164860
>almost 5
>BAD
So what exactly IS the point of all the scores under 5 if that's already marked as bad? What's the point of half the fucking scoring scale then?
>>343165221
>IGN's score
>Accurate
![164f7a7859[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d2WLdvO.jpg "164f7a7859[1].jpg")
>>343164860
>>Players think it's amazing
???
>>343165207
Fair point, most of ign, gamespot and destructoid reviews are paid
>>343165289
>Evocative soundtrack
>EVOCATIVE
>>343164860
I was hoping for this, enjoyed Alpha Protocol the same way though I didnt like the gameplay
Can't wait to get home and check it out.
I guess the devs didn't have enough of this for IGN's rigorous review standards.
>he still thinks IGN is worth a shit
>>343164860
>comparing it to Alpha Protocol
Honestly, that's the best thing anyone can say to get me to check the game out. Was AP flawed? Hell yes, but what it did right was worth playing the game for. If Techomancer is anything like it I'm all over it.
>>343165347
90% of negative reviews played less than 2 hours
Click on "Negative"
http://store.steampowered.com/app/338390/#app_reviews_hash
>>343164992
This basically. I've played their other RPGS (Bound by Blood and the Ork one).
If you come into this game expecting the generic AAA rpg then you are a fucking idiot and should go back to Witcher or Dragon Age or whatever.
These games are meant to be like the early 2000 rpgs, akin to Bioware back in their decent years. They wont be flawless, nor open world. But instead focused and fairly linear.
If you haven't played an RPG sub 2007 then you should probably give up, and keep buying modern "RPGs" which are just glorified action games.
>>343164860
It's one of those examples where devs spend more money on the game rather than ads or paying reviewers ridiculous ammounts of money
It doesn't mean that the game is amazing, but it's probably SPIDERS's best
it's been compared to games that are also pretty garbage and generic, but in a 'positive' way.
I played a few hours of it and it's really just generic and pretty visuals so far, like playing a CoD clone or something
>>343165505
Yeah no shit
You're not gonna play the game to completion if you think it sucks
>>343165553
>It doesn't mean that the game is amazing, but it's probably SPIDERS's best
I certainly hope so because they've been steadily getting better. Bound by Flame was actually rather solid, ice puns aside.
Made by the same guys who did Mars Wars and Bound by Flame right? Spiders? BBF was breddy good for an early PS4 title.
As >>343164992 said and is quite right, they're for the genre enthusiasts, sure they're not finely polished but they have a small budget and still deliver arguably better content than indieshit who fall back on "retro graphics"
I'll give it a look. I've been swamped with new games as of late. I've done most content on Grand Kingdom so I will likely buy it after I complete Star Ocean.
>>343165083
RPG Codex is like a better /v/, not even that anon. And by better /v/ I mean a better version of pre-2011 /v/
>>343165505
It doesn't take 2 hours to know if a game, such as this one, is garbage. And it allows them to refund.
>>343165505
>click on positive reviews
>Product received for free
>Product received for free
>2 hours
>1.4 hours
>0.9 hours
>5.9 hours
>2.4 hours
>2.0 hours
>12.1 hours
pirated this game and played a few hours of it. its honestly not even that bad of a game my only issue is the movement control. i'd buy this game if it goes down to 30-20.
It literally can't be that good if it's made by the people that made Mars: War logs
>>343165868
>click on negative reviews
>Product received for free
>Product received for free
>Product received for free
>0.6 hours
>1.9 hours
>2.0 hours
>1.5 hours
>>343164860
Video game journalism is garbage.
Other people's opinions are garbage.
Formulate your own opinions and ideas stop being a fucking leech onto everyone else's word.
>>343165949
>Mars: War logs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1lpFoaIqHQ
Sponsored by Gamersgate
GG
>>343165952
>OP's own opinions
Did you even read what he said?
Totalbiscuit said it was bad so It might actually be okay.
>>343164860
PLayed it 30min so far. Looks good!
Stances remind me Jedi Academy. Visuals are pretty nice, fighting seems ok. Looting, sneaking, char development...
mite b gud
>>343165950
>>343165868
so people should force themselves to continue playing something they don't like for excessive times (or leave it running and not actually play it) to validate their reviews more?
I have 800+ hours in SOTS2 and that doesn't validate the fact it isn't a good game any more than someone who played it for 2.
![d4cc0be74b[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/2gAaBH7.png "d4cc0be74b[1].png")
>>343165950
no? does steam display the reviews in a different order?
my point was that most of the positive reviews are also under 2 hours, meaning your criticism of the negative reviews based on length the reviewer played is hypocritical
>>343166206
>hypocritical
Most games released today are reviewed by hipsters so I don't know your point
>>343164860
I enjoyed Mars: War Logs a lot...mostly in spite of itself. So I'm giving this one a try soon.
>>343166194
800+ hours in a game you dont like, in your opinion, isnt good
how?
>>343164860
Camera is a little to sensitive and movement takes a lot of getting used to but I quite like it.
So far though I like Mars better but I'm only 2 hours in Technomancer.
To this day there is not a single cyberpunk RPG that is good
Technomancer is not that game.
>>343166032
>mature themes
The fuck? no, it did not have mature themes. It was amazingly childish with a few almost out of plays attempts at proper writing. It just gave me the impression of "wow, the writer on this team has no idea how to write, this might be literally the first time he's constructing a narrative".
I hope it was, if it was, maybe he studied what he did wrong and technomancer could have an alright story, but jesus christ it was amateurish. I initially thought it was supposed to be subtle satire, but no.
It seems that reviewer likes it because it was obscure.
>>343166363
System Shaq
>>343166363
shadowrun. SNES, genesis, dragonfall, hong kong. all very good.
underrail has many cyberpunk elements
>>343166301
it doesn't play as well as the first in the series, and has tons of buggy flaws that still reside, despite many more being fixed.
It ruins the experience when an enemy fleet magically appears itself from random space at times (like how armies are generated total war games), as little as turn 40. You'll have an enemy empire across a map that's a minimum of 100 turns to travel just flying in from empty space (you can only travel from system to system, flying in from outside the game map makes no sense).
It's one of the games i hoped the devs would eventually polish to perfection, so i kept playing hoping it would be a diamond in the rough instead of a polished turd
>>343166206
Whats a voice animation?
>>343166521
No
no
and no!
not a single cyberpunk rpg was ever released.
>>343165551
>Bound by blood
That soundtrack though
>>343166629
cyberpunk 2077 is great
>>343166629
nice meme dude
>>343166263
i dont understand what your point is anymore. heres the current reply chain
>op says players think the game is amazing
>i post screenshot of steam with mixed reviews, clearly not amazing
>you disregard steams aggregate mixed review label because 90% of negative reviews are under 2 hours played
>i show the real list of top rated postive reviews, most are also under 2 hours played
>you post a fictional list of negative review times
>i have to clarify my previous post
>you claim reviewers are hipsters
are you back peddling or did you never have a point at all?
>>343166579
animations when people speak? like mouth movements or other gestures i guess
>>343165551
Remember when the Witcher wasn't a generic AAA rpg
>>343166703
>cyberpunk 2077
that game was not released you idiot
>>343166746
>>i show the real list of top rated postive reviews, most are also under 2 hours played
I didn't see it, sorry.
>>343164860
Why should a game that has blatant flaws that inarguably detract from the enjoyment get a 9? It's certainly not unredeemable shit but neither is it "amazing"
it can be fun and it's worth at least checking out but you can't be serious if you think it's a 9
>>343166809
is that too hard to figure out he was talking about the premise?
If a 10mb internet means ~1225kpbs how much would a 150mb internet download in kpbs?
I've been following this game for ages and was really looking forward to it. Watched a few reviews and they seem pretty mixed but I still think it looks good, will probably grab it when it drops in price. I've still got W3 expansions and a million other games in my backlog anyway.
>>343166809
>not being from the future
fuck off.
>>343166934
I have no magic ball anon
I don't know if the guy knows or he is just shitposting
By the way expect this game released in 2018-2019
>>343166549
fair enough, i had a similar experience with war of the roses. i think 800 hours is a bit excessive tho. you must have really loved the first one
>>343165865
I'm not even one of the other guy(s) and I don't care what you're talking about, but you can't just throw out a bunch of edgy buzzwords and call it an argument.
>>343166934
No I was talking about the literal game. My dad works for CDPR
>>343166986
Multiply by 125
>>343167172
does he fuck the hookers after they do their mocap modeling?
>>343165207
>we're not worry
these people are paid to write
>>343164860
It's a Euro budget CRPG. Did you like Bound By Flame? Did you like Demonicon? Then you'll like this.
$40+ is an unreasonable price, though. I'd think about it at $25 and definitely pick it up at $20.
>>343167249
no he's faithful to mommy.
![chris-work-1024x768[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zM1oQZh.jpg "chris-work-1024x768[1].jpg")
>>343167172
Does he still work there after Bioware canned him for telling Felicia Day she was attractive?
>>343166783
>open world
>x to win
>multiple "choices"
>mounts
>sex scenes
>limited character builds
>world event quests
Yup, seems pretty generic AAA to me anon. Don't get so mad you play modern copy paste RPGs and have pleb tastes and sensabilities.
>>343166206
I liked mars war logs. Not a stellar game but the setting was nice
i really like focus for their recent efforts with warhammer licenses but their rpgs seems to be meh
i'm hyped vampyr and deathwing
>>343167054
Maybe because it's 2:30 in the morning, but that legit made me laugh.
>>343167816
Fucking. Deathwing.
I just wanna assault cannon a swarm of genestealers so bad.
>>343164860
>Trusting IGN
>>343165347
This is the new IGN/Polygon/shill outlets scam.
They know their reputation is shit, so no one would really believe them anymore. So they have to somehow make their lies true. Enter an army of shills, either paid or "for free" (aka their dumb and brainwashed fans).
If you're a publisher and you paid for them to shill your game, they make a great review of your game, then backed by their army of shills to "upshill" positives or suppress negatives, in their site and elsewhere. If you didn't pay, then they either send you a message (aka lukewarm review) so you'd pay next time or they'd REALLY send you a message ("your game is bad because the water is too sparkly" or some faggy shit like that).
In the case of Technomancer, it's possible that they had their army go to Steam and "downboat" the game. It's also possible that the shills are here right now to paint the picture that the game is bad, even though none of them have actually played it. All to make IGN look trustworthy, for once and to send the publisher/devs a warning.
But IGN's reputation is beyond salvation. The "for free"/paid shills working for them are not as influential as they think. Irrelevant, even.
By default, I hate any games until I've grown to like it, so I'd probably hate Technomancer too. But I wouldn't be taking IGN's "objective" review seriously, at all, as they've never been reputable to begin with. Listening to them is akin to pouring poison down my ears, like in Hamlet; or listening to Wormtongue.
>>343165347
>mixed
>116 positive 52 negative
come on valve
>>343165952
Underrated
>>343164860
>Players think it's amazing
Who? Who said that?
Oh, I get this thread now. OP is just a shill.
>>343165865
Holy shit, were you raped by someone on RPG Codex? Lol
>>343169160
Did you look at the OP picture?
>>343164860
Literally Alpha Protocol of this gen, a rough diamond
>>343169287
Yes. For 4 people that are giving positive scores, there is 14 negative ones
>>343164860
IGN is bribed.
Also the players.
>tfw you got no vidya discussion from the thread
>>343164860
>>IGN claims it's bad
Big fucking surprise. That just makes me want to buy it now.
>>343164860
WHO EVEN VISITS IGN ANYMORE?!
They're a joke. Don't even give them clicks.
>>343164992
>polished
>AAA
Pick one will ya.
>>343167337
This.
Game is a little overpriced right now. Could have done with being about £10 cheaper.
Should we listen to IGN? Probably not. If anything you should listen to the opposite of what they say since they overrate AAA and underrate everything else.
Gamespot do the opposite to them and usually underrate.
Best thing is to average these two reviewers with user reviews to get an accurate picture.
>>343164860
there is a general rule with rpgs.
Just buy and play them, since every rpg could have a good system but one has to find the system that works well. I've not followed this action rpg at-all, so I doubt its the open world darling that IGN and other shill sites would love. So if its not a elder scrolls/fallout 3 or 4 formula its automatically shit.
Also if it does not have any progressive things inn it, its also shit. So game like Mass Effect or general tumblerware will get great scores no matter what.
>>343169354
I literally don't believe you.
Game doesn't have a demo so I'll wait for the torrent.
>>343171102
>Also if it does not have any progressive things inn it, its also shit.
You mean if it has forced progressive things in it, it's also shit.
>>343165949
Mars War Logs was alright.
>>343167337
>Demonicon
Worth the $5 it's on sale for right now, btw.
>>343172436
it was not. I only played it because I play every wrpg
>>343172692
I was, though.
>>343164860
>Technomancer
ALRIGHT.
This is too fucking far now. Know where the attachment 'mancy' originated from? Necromancy. Know what it was derived from? Nekros Manteia. Know your fucking language? CORPSE DIVINATION.
'MANCY', when attached to a word, means to communicate, foretell, predict, devine, interpret, ANYTHING ALONG THAT GUIDELINE. Does it mean someone who is good at using whatever 'mancy' is attached to? FUCKING NO IT DOESN'T.
Pyromancer? That means a fucker who uses fire to see the future or communicate with fire spirits or some shit. Geomancer? Same goddamn thing, but with earth. We want to butcher the meaning of those words, fine.
BUT FUCKING TECHNOMANCER? It's not even goddamn magic and if it is, then fuck you it sure isn't 'technology' ANYTHING. This motherfucker is sure as shit not predicting the future with science, and he's either using magic or technology, but either fucking way, ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING MANCY BULLSHIT.
>>343172842
kek
>>343172842
Keep fighting the good fight, Anon. Godspeed.
Ok, I know /v/ wants to be contrarian and all but this game is actually pure fucking garbage.
I have a hard on everything Mars related so I picked up Mars Wars Logs and regreted it almost instantly seeing how shit the game was. But then I picked up this one because, as I said, I'm a Marsfag, hopping they would learn of their mistakes and improve on Mars Wars Logs.
They didn't. The game is ugly, gameplay feels clunky as hell, bugs everywhere, awfull camera, constent back and forth and recycled content... The only thing I remotely liked was the music.
Don't fall for the contrarian meme, this game is legit bad even for RPG and scifi enthusiasts
>RPG
>Can't play as a girl
Dropped. I'm sick of games saying they're RPGs but then having a set male protagonist.
>>343172842
a technomancer in the game is literally a dude that uses technology to perform magic.
>>343173281
I don't follow
I fucking love the dev
Is it like Mars: War Logs and Bound by Flame?
Is technomancy still OP as fuck?
>>343168395
it's fair rating for most game. Because a fanbase is always larger than newcomers with more objective and broader, friendlier view.
>>343173354
he wants to stare at his characters ass the whole game, but no homo.
>>343166178
SAUCE
>>343173617
>no homo
Sure he does.
>>343173296
Then he's not a fucking Technomancer, is he!
>>343173706
yes he is. Just like a geomancer uses rocks to perform magic.
>>343173296
No, a Technomancer is a mutant that produces 10x the amount of electricity a normal person does and needs a way to discharge every now and then.
>>343173706
no one cares about your outdated definitions
>a pyromancer is technically foreseeing stuff, b-because I say so
fuck off
>>343166178
>Stances remind me Jedi Academy
it's nothing like jedi aca.
in jedi the stances works on the same weapons. In this game the stances are different weapons.
in jedi, spacing and aiming are not automatic. in this game it is.
jedi has no iframe. in this game there are.
>>343165267
I don't get this shit attitude to anything below 8/80% either.
FFS, any game above 60% is still a decent game, below that it's down to personal favs/hidden gems/clunky but cool stuff.
>>343173752
That's not what 'mancy' means you shitstack. A Technomancer would be someone who used technology to predict the future, who could 'speak' to technology, or who could use technology to communicate over long distances. Literally anyone with a fucking cellphone could be called a Technomancer, but if you're using technology to kill people, you're not a Technomancer.
>>343173883
he speaks to technology, the technology does his bidding.
>>343173820
>The word doesn't mean what it actually means in this context because I say so
>>343173946
So does my goddamn laptop right now, so I guess I'm a Technomancer too.
>>343173973
>being a literary purist
for what purpose?
>>343165221
The setting is nothing like red faction besides being on the same planet. and the combat is nothing like batman, more like jade empire or witcher 3. You clearly haven't played it so why shitpoost?
>>343173973
>people have been using it "wrong" for ages and for loads of different types of magic
>you're the only one raging against it
writing is fucking ATROCIOUS
all quests are fetch quests
skill variety is nonexistent, i'm level 10 and by the time i will get to level 20 i will probably learn all skills for my entire playstyle (staff+technomancer spells)
companions so far are shit
percentage-based dialogue checks mean a lot of savescumming to save skill points
by far the only somewhat interesting thins so far is a general atmosphere and music that reminds me of mass effect 1, but overall is plays like shit and has a shit writing with barely any dialogue options
>>343164860
It's really no surprise, considering what Mars War Logs was. It's probably just as average but worth a try for some people.
>>343172842
t. clueless etymologist that thinks definitions are rigid
>>343174017
>supporting the degradation of language
Because having a bunch of ignorant fucksticks running around pronouncing clique "click" is what we want to see?
>>343174006
If you're above 30 it's safe to assume you're some kind od wizard.
>>343165267
1-3 is "actually bad." 4-6 is "didn't pay the geld" bad.
Personally, I'd give this one like a 6 or 6.5. Unless you know you already like this sort of thing, wait for a real sale.
>>343174080
Has French ever made a well written piece of media. Has French ever has some cultural achievement not related to some sort of fetish?
>>343174080
Sounds exactly like the previous games by the company
>>343174136
>bunch of ignorant fucksticks running around pronouncing clique "click"
Other people actually don't give a fuck about that, you're the only one
>>343174136
most of the words in that sentence are rooted in etymology that got transformed through ignorant fucksticks.
>>343174070
>people have been using it wrong for ages
>anyone with even a basic understanding of language know it's wrong
>uneducated people don't know it's wrong
>uneducated people keep using it
>eventually people are so jaded to the term they don't even question it
>language has become just a bit more polluted by ignorance
Fix'd.
>>343174262
Game of Thrones RPG is pretty good
>this game gets more attention than Age of Decadence
no justice.
>>343174262
EYE
>>343174262
EYE
>>343174136
It's not degradation, it's evolution.
>>343174420
it's related to ntr and blind fold femdom shit.
>>343174417
Fucking retard. Age of Decadence had nonstop threads for months after it was released.
>>343164860
Good to know, I've kinda been keeping an eye on it cause is gonna be the only scifi rpg till Mass Effect is out, so I was thinking of playing it.
>>343174262
The Count of Monte Cristo.
>>343173706
>>343173752
He should have been called a sciencer.
![[Commie] Valkyrie Drive ~Mermaid~ - 09 [0C56C1B4].mkv - 00002.png](https://i.imgur.com/JHoANQd.png "[Commie] Valkyrie Drive ~Mermaid~ - 09 [0C56C1B4].mkv - 00002.png")
>>343174420
>>343174432
> EYE
> well written
>>343174469
it literally didn't. The few it had wereprobably created by me
Also /v/ is not representative of general market trends. Underrail got WAY more buzz while being objectively inferior.
>Technomancer
>No Technomancy powers
>Only PSi and Electric powers like a fucking sith
>>343174451
Evolution by definition can only apply to living things.
Stop using words wrong and being wrong, language cannot 'evolve'.
>>343174545
>scientists magically communicate with technology to make it do its bidding
No, scientists just operate the mechanisms.
>>343174579
>shitty CYOA
>good
fuck off AoD dev
>>343174545
he doesnt research shit. how can he be called sciencer?
he craft a lot of stuff, which means he is an engineer. an engineer with some magic power based on technology?
TECHNOMANCER
>>343171246
Not him but I have about 4 hours and it's a 7.5-8 so far. The setting and combat are refreshing and the writing is interestingly bizarre
>>343174642
The gameplay was fine.
>>343174579
No, it fucking did. I was there. There was always a thread up. If anything Underrail got less threads on /v/ because autists kept pushing AoD as the god given saviour of RPGs.
>>343164860
Backer's remorse.
>>343174618
The word "evolution" itself evolved to mean "gradual advancement of something".
>>343174703
This wasn't kickstarted though, was it? Focus has been releasing Spiders' games for years without a problem
>>343174628
Researcherer then cause he is still trying to figure out what he is doing.
>>343174668
Nah, Engineers knows what they are doing. Technicianer is more fitting.
>>343174808
>Literally: in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
>Literally: used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being true.
>Word means both X and the exact opposite of X
This is what people like you are doing. Stop apologizing for and promoting the idea that ignorant people should steer the course of language.
>>343174701
it was the god given savior of rpgs.
My problem with the game is the combat. It gives you zero feedback. It does not feel/look like I am actually hitting anyone with my fancy moves. They just look fancy but lack the impact. And that is something I really hate in a game so I don't think I'll ever play it again.
Anybody here actually played the game? Care divulge your experiences? If its a good as Bound by Flame i'm buying.
>>343174995
There is LITTERALLY nothing wrong with that and it's exactly how language has always been.
If you actually went digging through the etymology of words and only used their earliest known definitions then absolutely no one alive today could understand what you're saying.
>>343175197
It's alright. A bit better than BBY imo
>>343175197
It's better but bound by flame wasn't that great so the bar is pretty low.
>>343175267
Awesome.
Encountered any bugs so far?
>>343175197
It's essentially the same game but sci fi instead of fantasy.
Played about an hour of it and so far the combat feels less tedious though the first boss fight was still shit.
>>343175324
It crashed on me once for some reason, but nothing after that.
>>343165000
>out of 10 ratings
GEEE ANON I WONDER HMMMMMMMMM
>>343175272
Not really the explanations i wanna see. Those kind of reactions became generic for things "i don't like" for most people.
>>343175362
K. I'm getting it.
>>343175362
>>343175326
Is dodging as overpowered as it was in Bound by Flame?
>can just hammer dodge button if you feel like being invincible
>window for a perfect dodge is pretty large and allows you to do loads of damage
Everyone shits on Spiders games but they're fun as fuck.
Game Reviewer's opinions on AA and lower are pretty worthless since "unplayably bad" and "has some shitty SFX/texture resolutions" got muddled up somewhere.
>>343175472
It's a bit better. You can still get hit while dodging if you dodge in the wrong direction but it's still overpowered.
I've still died 5-6 times and I'm only 1.5 hours in. Ranged attacks are a bitch.
>>343175472
Yes.
>>343175567
Damn right. Twirling my way through Bound by Flame was one of the best game experiences i ever had.
>>343175596
>>343175612
>better
you mean worse, I love OP shit
>I've still died 5-6 times and I'm only 1.5 hours in. Ranged attacks are a bitch.
So the same deal as always then, sounds great. Thanks for the info
>>343175723
As usual the difficulty is fucked ten times backwards.
>playing BBY
>started on hard
>had to gradually go down in difficulty culminating in me going down to Easy for the final boss
>still get fucking wrecked over and over again
>>343175723
>you mean worse, I love OP shit
I think there's a difference between some weirdly out of place obscure mechanics that break the game (say, Nosferatu: Wrath of Malachi's unarmed punching breaking the game into tiny little gargoyle-shaped pieces) and a core mechanic just being unbalanced.
>Mainstream media outlet thinks it's shit.
>Contrarians will now defend the game to the end of the earth.
I've played it, it's very bland, the only good thing about it is the atmosphere, combat is drab along with skill choices and dialogue.
All in all mediocre. Playable but only in the sense that the game works alright. No one will be posting about technomancer in two weeks time.
>>343175819
That final boss was goat.
Still better than what AAA devs shat out years after.
>>343175819
Heh, have you played Mars: War Logs?
>start on hardest difficulty
>turn it down after a while because I'm fucking tired of every fight turning into a war of attrition
>20 minutes later, get technomancer powers
>game is now easy as fuck
>>343175894
I don't like exploits but I'm definitely autismal enough to always want to go for the most overpowered shit
>>343164860
>out of 10 ratings
Fuck of you piece of shit shill. Go back and starve to death after nobody buys your shit game.
>>343175976
you look like a fag and your shits all retarded
>>343175197
> its a good as Bound by Flame
>>343166178
Who is this cum queen?
>>343167124
The first SotS was almost flawless, aside from the game's laughable art and burdensome trade system. Almost all of the game's systems meshed to deliver a balanced yet diverse experience that genuinely managed to make you feel like you were constantly making meaningful decisions, without burdening you with trivialities and minutiae, and doing so throughout the entire course of the game (the construction of trade ships being the only real exception). I don't think any other 4X/TBS has managed this since the original Master of Orion, with even the best titles in the genre succumbing to tedium and "clunkiness" at various thresholds throughout each individual game.
>>343178072
The trade system was fine though
>conquer all enemy planets in a sector
>build a shitload of trade ships
>watch as the game automatically throws infinite money at you
>>343178245
I'm not saying the trade system was bad, I'm saying it wasn't as streamlined as every other "imperial" aspect of the game. Poring through the trade screen to adjust each planet's industry/trade slider and repeatedly press the "Build Trade Ship" button was the most irritating aspect of empire management, and one that took up a significant portion of your turns in the mid- and late-game. Some must-have mods adjust the system to condense down the number of traders you need to build, thankfully, but it's an unnecessary flaw in the base-game that could've had a more elegant implementation.
>look at the upgrade system
>damage increase 1
>damage increase 2
>damage increase 3
are there any unique upgrades or it's THIS primitive?
>>343175163
You mean is.
>>343165347
Yeah let's trust the people that rate up every Neptunia game to Overwhelmingly Positive.
The only thing Steam reviews are good for is knowing whether a game is glitchy pile of shit that needs to be patched.
>>343178886
Try reading the actual reviews instead of just looking at the aggregate score, they're really helpful
Hundreds of guys spamming memes as positive reviews doesn't magically remove the negative reviews that actually list a game's flaws
>>343178886
I've played very, very few games rated Mixed or lower that are worth half a damn.
>>343172842
get a load of this autismancer
>>343165000
You can't get a 9.1 with two or three people you fucking idiot
>>343174006
>laptop
Don't you mean notebook?
>>343166194
<2 hours isn't enough to evaluate most games, including this one. Which means those reviews come from impatient retards more concerned about their money and being able to refund rather than just playing the game and learning about what it offers.
>>343181128
This is something I don't understand in general. I get that there's lots of shitty "pixel art" indie games where you've seen everything the game has to offer after 1 hour, but why do people keep refunding games where you're barely through the tutorial 2 hours in?
>>343174569
EYE is the Neon Genesis Evangelion of video games.
>go to jewtube
>watch a few gameplay videos
>make the mistake of scrolling through comments
>every other person wants to know if it's open world
When will the le epic open world die every fucking game now has to have it.
>>343181578
Probably another 5 years or so
And then the well will be so poisoned that barely anyone will dare to even make a good, hand-crafted open world game again, similar to how WW2 shooters died
>>343181319
They don't care about the games they play, only their wallets. If the game isn't instantly satisfying, or doesn't seem like it will be trendy to talk about, they'll just play the minimum to get a refund and then shit on it. Steam reviews were made completely worthless when they added refunds for this reason.
The only time it's acceptable is when someone reports that the game didn't launch or run well on their PC, but I'm skeptical about reviews that say that too. Steam should show everyone's specs in their reviews so we can see if these people are just trying to run on toasters or shitty laptops.
>>343173623
Ninfetinhas Deusas: Masha P | boob friends
It's a game made by the Spiders.
Their only good game was Testament of Sherlock Holmes.
>>343181930
Even if you don't like their other games, you should play Of Orcs and Men. It shares some similarities (the looting for example) but otherwise you can really see the influence of Cyanide
>>343181542
it's the warham 40k fanfic of video game
>>343181801
>Steam reviews were made completely worthless when they added refunds for this reason.
No mate, you're just not looking close enough
I haven't been steered wrong by Steam reviews ever since they made them public instead of just for friends (3 years ago? don't fucking remember)
You just need to read the good ones
>>343165505
Probably because the game is fucking shit and they'd rather play something else.
>>343182291
There's still good ones, the ones with reasonable playtimes. Those aren't the majority of them now, however. Most are under 2 hours, and this affects the overall rating. It's more the rating that I'm complaining is worthless.
>>343166363
Anachronox you mongoloid.
>>343182649
Anachronox sucked, fucking FF7 hyper-animations goddamn.
If he turned down Shadowrun, he's not going to take that.
>>343164860
Gamekult rate it 5/10 too.
http://www.gamekult.com/jeux/test-the-technomancer-SU3050394467t.html
+
good and complex scenario
pleasant universe
Nice quest and real RPG system
Crafting is interesting and well done
A little effort on companions
Good OST
-
Not enough space, colors, "life" to it
Scavenging is grindy.
Frustrating combat is a chore
Camera is a little shit
scenes and dubbing are poorly done
Loads of bugs
Nothing to do with screenshots
>>343182624
I see, yeah you're definitely right about that
Aggregate ratings in general are often shit because they tell you nothing about whether you would enjoy the game and are dictated too much by people trying to fit in, marketing, and spamming memes
>>343164860
>Game is called *thing*
>you don't actually do thing.
Why do games keep doing this? I just wanna be *thing*. Is that so much to ask for?
>>343164860
Dowloading this right now(pirated)
That prequel, whatever it is called, was allright, second half of the game was mostly pretty meh but I would give it a good average.
Fans loved it. Allright I guess
Bound by flame was shit in every aspect. Fans loved it, their reasoning is that it is an indie studio. Da fuq?
I do not know what to expect of it game. I seriosly do not, but I for sure dont expect masterpiece.
>>343174034
How much like Jade Empire because I love me some Jade Empire.
>>343182802
>Game is called The Technomancer
>you don't actually do The Technomancer
That's gay man
>>343182845
>thinking Mars: War Logs was alright but hating Bound by Flame
Huh? BbF was the same thing in a different setting and less clunky
>their reasoning is that it is an indie studio
It isn't
>>343172842
sheesh anon you a such a sperg
>>343183091
>Bound by flame
>game where you literaly could not do anything in the combat and died anyways.
>Game where names of the bad guys were frosty or chilled and shit like that.
>Crafting was absolutely useless
>Game where your companions were useless and died instantly (well ok that is the same)
>Better than war logs
oy vey
>It isn't
This is just my exprience but page where I reviews had thrown the game into garbage. Fans then swooped in and started saying shit like:"Just an indie game bruh, its good. Staph"
>>343164860
>4.9
More like Heck no mancer
>>343165735
>ade by the same guys who did Mars Wars and Bound by Flame right?
Oh dear.
They tend to make shit games, that fill a niche and thus find ardent fans underserviced by the market, and thus used to settling.
>>343183515
>>game where you literaly could not do anything in the combat and died anyways.
That's not only wrong (try dodging), Technomancer's combat was equally unforgiving
And both games get hella easy once you get their respective magic power
>>Game where names of the bad guys were frosty or chilled and shit like that.
Wow, how terrible I guess. Especially since that's part of the game's theme and story.
>>Crafting was absolutely useless
It was absolutely the exact same as in War Logs, you buy a weapon/armor and craft components onto it to make it actually useful
>can't be a space cutey
why even have a customizable character
>>343183723
I was mostly talking about traps, they were useless later on.
Game where whole combat consists of doge, attact is pretty lame.
And my point about the names was supposed to reflect how the writing is shit.
>>343183907
War Logs had a bunch of shit that was useless later on, you never needed grenades and shit as soon as you could start electrocuting people
>Game where whole combat consists of doge, attact is pretty lame
I mean sure you can think that, but it's not like War Logs was any different
>And my point about the names was supposed to reflect how the writing is shit.
Sticking with a theme is shit writing, kay
>>343164860
It's Spiders.
Shouldn't you already know the answer if you look at anything they've ever released?
>>343184052
Yeah it was pretty similar to War logs at least in war logs you had more posibilities and dodging did not feel so clunky.
>Sticking with a theme is shit writing, kay
I just dont know what to tell you. I cant. Sticking with a theme doesnt mean the writing is good. And names of the bosses were cringy as fuck. If you want to defend that, whatever floats your boat, taste is subjective.
>>343184393
I never claimed the writing was good (it's decent, just like all other Spiders games), I'm merely saying you're silly for complaining about cold-related enemy names when the entire game is about fighting a force of winter-based enemies with fire
You faggots know that this is based off a book, right?
>>343174262
Wakfu
>>343164860
Shit, 10 players think it's amazing? Stop the presses, IGN is finished!
>>343182802
reminds me of Lichdom: Battlemage
>>343185280
i still remember that pile of pathetic garbage
>tired of games where mages are just shooting recolored fireballs?
>want to play as a REAL BATTLEMAGE
>WELL LOOK NO FURTHER, WE PRESENT YOU A GAME WHERE YOUshoot recolored fireballs
>>343165649
Was it? It had zero fluidity, the story was incredibly retarded and the combat was mediocre at its best moments, awful at the worst of them.
>>343184723
>Wakfu
>Not a fetish show
Come on now.
>>343186165
>It had zero fluidity
heh
>>343174136
Not a word in your sentence is what it originally was. Language evolves according to necessity. Powerful groups try to protect their speech with limited success, but you ain't one of them, fuccboi. Better get used to change.
>>343164860
>game is pushed as a modern rpg
>reviewers say that it's not modern rpg
>autists sperg that it's not supposed to be viewed as a modern rpg
Have you actually seen the trailers? They are clearly aiming for the mass effect audience but failing to deliver mass effect on mars.
>>343165289
>2 different people
>they have different opinions
WOW
Stop reading "IGN" and start reading "Marty Silva" and "Chuck Osborn" and all of a sudden all the conspiracy bullshit flies away.
>>343181128
you are saying some stupid stuff there anon. Of course you can evaluate a game in two hours, it can take much less depending on the game.
For example, after playing stories for five minutes I tasted the core of the gameplay and seen that I don't care about the story nor the characters so the gimmick won't work on me.
Technomancer i won't play for the artstyle alone, but even if i did in the first ten minutes I could have tasted most of what combat has to offer as well as shitty animations, meaning that i won't take characters seriously
tl;dr two hours is more than enough for almost any game (save for the story heavy ones where you play for le twist)
>>343187561
2 hours is enough for anything, if you tried something for 2 hours and go "don't like it" even if it actually does get better 5 hours in you're well in your right to say "fuck off"
>>343166363
Just because you're underage doesn't mean there aren't any good cyberpunk games.
>>343178886
>Yeah let's trust the people that rate up every Neptunia game to Overwhelmingly Positive.
What makes you think those games have the same player base?
>>343182624
Good thing it shows playtime and best voted ones are on top
>>343187561
>I could have tasted most of what combat has to offer
You don't know that
>>343164860
IGN is the new Kotaku
Just ignore them
>>343164860
It's bad in the sense of, it's not a multi million dollar game. That's the only thing I've noticed.
My favorite game right now, of this generation is hands down Styx: Master of Shadows. From what I remember that game never got stellar reviews. Fuck the mainstream.
>>343188854
Have you played Of Orcs and Men?
>>343188956
oh god yes, that's another favorite.
I'd pirate and check for myself if it's shit or not, but I bet Denuvo's there.
>>343189005
And the Game of Thrones RPG?just throwing out games I loved from these companies
DEATHWING WHEN
