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That's it, I can't play another RPG ever again. Witcher
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That's it, I can't play another RPG ever again. Witcher 3 has completely ruined RPGs for me. It can't get any better, I just can't see it getting any better than this.

I think I might just quit videogames. I've seen the pinnacle of it already. Goodbye.
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Enjoy your tank controls i guess
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Witcher 3 cured me of my Dota 2 addiction

bravo CDPR
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I have 120 hours in TW2 and 60 hours in The Witcher.

I'm scared The Witcher 3 will ruin RPGs for me too.
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>>343159936

I was left severely depressed after finishing Witcher 3.

What is there in life after this? I just can't continue on.
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I really hope more RPGs handle side quests like Witcher 3, I'm playing inquisition and the fucking side quests are boring and bland at best.
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>>343159695
How the fuck did they manage to create this masterpiece? It is objectively the best RPG and objectively the best Video game ever made. Will we ever see such a masterpiece, flawless video game like this? I am worried after finishing such high-standard video game, I cant imagine touching any other rpg after playing Witcher 3.

>Flawless open-world
>Flawless story
>Flawless characters, main quests, side quests
>Good game length with flawless quality-quantity balance
>Flawless soundtrack
>Flawless graphics
>Flawless support through tons of free DLCs and updates
>Good gameplay, the combat is the best of any WRPG ever made.
>Flawless amount of overall detail
>Flawless expansion packs that are better than any 60$ AAA games.

CDPR are the gods of gaming.
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>>343160317

It's like I've eaten the best meal ever made, and I no longer want to eat anything ever again. Nothing else can ever satisfy me, and I will always long for the taste of that one meal for the rest of my life.
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good riddance
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>all these sonyggers who have never played a Zelda game or Xenoblade X
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>>343160460
Guess we have to wait till Cyberpunk 2077, their next big RPG. I seriously cannot imagine any other developer trying to make something close to Witcher 3. It requires tons of effort.
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>>343159695
Well, that just proves you have a shit taste and no standards, as even TW1 was a superior, actual RPG.
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>>343160728
Get out nostalgiafaggot.
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>>343160601
You guys still pretending xenoblade is worth a shit? Mmmk then.
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>>343160728

I liked TW1 much better than TW2, but 3 is a culmination of all their efforts. Everything they sought to achieve, has been accomplished in 3.

It is truly their magnum opus.
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it was alright, would have appreciated it better if the game was a bit smaller and the details were a bit more closely packed.

Music could have been a bit more comfy.
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>>343160916
>The music
>Not mega comfy
u wot m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6rTELdJEbU
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>>343160317
The result of good direction.

For those that played The Witcher and The Witcher 2, the quality of The Witcher 3 doesn't feel like it magically came out of thin air, as both those games were damn near perfect in their own right.

They simply got better at graphics and animation.
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>>343161115
This is objectively the most comfy track in Witcher series senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a-DmxpXhQE
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>>343161115
More of a lyrics kind of guy with some folk singing.
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>>343159695
>go to /v/ because just beat Witcher 3
>find this thread

I played Witchers 1 and 2 but was hesitant to play 3 and waited to start it until last month despite preordering it in 2013 or 2014.

Best fucking RPG I have ever played, now I feel empty inside because I got the ciri dies, geralt is lonely ending
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I'm only about two hours into W1 and I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would, but I mostly don't play RPGs like these. Managing all these stats and weapon types and potion ingredients is all new and entertaining for me. Even though a lot of people say W1 doesn't get good until Chapter 2, I've been digging things since that intro.
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>>343160601
>Zelda
heh yea. BEST GAEM EVA. <33333 BUT THAT WATER TEMPLE HUH?

Fuck off with your shit series that had one decent game. A Link to the past.
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>>343161343
A lot of that too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPVDblFUlcI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARnTY918SKc
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>>343161560
Awakening or the original
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>>343161443
How do you fuck up that bad, you're a shit dad.
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>>343160916
>would have appreciated it better if the game was a bit smaller and the details were a bit more closely packed.

I have to agree. They could have cut out like 2/3rds of the map and the game would have been better for it. All that empty space and checklist collectable bullshit really hampers any desire to replay it despite how much I liked it.

Can't say the music was particuarly comfy but this shit jesus fuck, set a tone so good nothing else in the game could live up to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8J9HXcOxrs
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>>343161652
I never took ciri to the emperor so I didnt get the chance to score brownie points with her which would lead to her not dying

as for the crone ending, not sure why i got that but I liked it
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>>343161443
Play the DLC and don't fuck up that hard.
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>>343161524
Good, if you're not even having any semblance of fun before chapter 1 ends, chances are that you wouldn't like it anyway. And perhaps it's a good thing you don't have a lot to compare it to, so you can forgive some of the more shittier aspects.
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I'm crying guys, I'm literally crying. The thought that there's no point in playing any other video game after having experienced this masterpiece is bringing me to tears.

What's the fucking point of living, once you've tasted the nectar of gods?
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>everyone keeps praising witcher 3
>install witcher 1
>boring and clunky as fuck
should i just go straight to 3?
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>Playing through Blood and Wine
>Wine Wars quest
>Negotiate and accept contract from the guy for 900 crowns
>Woman says she'll pay more
>1000, 950, 925 too much
>Try 901
>She gets upset and I have to accept the minimum
>Both parties are being sabotaged by a third, clear that up and solve problems for both of them
>Guy pays
>Woman doesn't
Cunt.
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I dunno, the swordfighting is pretty trash.
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>>343159695

The story was good but the combat was so boring, and I played on the hardest difficulty where your health didn't regen whenever you rested so I had to use everything I had skillfully in fights. The griffon took me like a dozen tries.
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>>343160317
Padded story, shit gets annoying about how long it takes to find Ciri. But, the best part was probably the invasion of Kaer Morhem

IMO, open-world didn't have much things to do besides open chest, caves were a chore

Flawless characters I definitely can't argue with besides Ciri.

Graphics are great, even if it was downgraded it's still possibly one of the best for an open-world game. At least as far as I know.

Combat was meh for me, at least. But it's not as bad as everyone says it is on /v/

Expansion packs are the best part of Witcher 3, best is still Hearts of Stone.
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>>343161849
>everyone praises one game
>install a completely different game
>the game installed sucks
>"Hurrr...should I just install the game everyone is praising instead?"
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>>343161874
The haggling mechanic is utter shit. It's fucking annoying when almost everyone hardly budges anyway.
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>>343161938
>>343161902

>people honestly hating the combat

It's the best combat in any western RPG, ever. The visceral feeling of dodging an enemy to the side, charging up a rend then cleaving them in half.

Beautiful.
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>>343161524
I've always professed act 1 as one of my favourites, since you feel half in danger and half safe in the outskirts of town.

There are lots of people in the inn at night, enough to make you feel comfortable, but stray too far from the path and you may encounter terrible things. The night watch gives you some small level of comfort...

For me the acts got progressively better, until the final acts which I didn't like as much.

Also, be sure to install the bank anywhere (also includes meditate anywhere) mod prior to Act 5 (back up saves just in case), as the game suddenly decides you no longer need access to your bank in act 5.
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>>343159695

i have to admit
been hating on the witcher3 for a while now

the medieval fantasy shit seems sappy at first
generic dialog and story,
stupid generic shit controls, everything bland as fuck

but man, once you start doing the quests...
that first town noticeboard sidequest about the wraith in the abandoned village... 9/10 material
and the rest of the games seems to be unfolding real well.

i can see why it has such high scored now
i was foolishly judging the game from a relatively shallow depth

witcher 3 is game of the year
probably for the next 3 years too
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>>343161774
The combat is janky as hell, but I enjoy everything else around it.
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>>343161819
that's why I'm excited for nier 2
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>>343159751
Is that Bashar al-Assad?
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>>343162031
I never said I hated the combat.I just found it meh, personally I would rather play Gwent than doing it.
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>>343161443
that's alternate ending dude
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>>343162031
>It's the best combat in any western RPG, ever.
>western
well theres no surprise there really. You're standing on a mound of very little innovation.
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>>343162173
>personally I would rather play Gwent than doing it.

Is this the best ingame card game ever?
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>>343162223

compared to what? Shitty turn based JRPGs?
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>>343162069

its also annoying as fuck having every little detail and feature of the game being paused and explained to you

like 500 feature explinationes being piled onto you between each action you do
this is tremendously overwhelming, and really weighs heavy with the poor generic presentation and vibe the game is putting off

this is why people hate the witcher3
and to be fair, cd project red did fuck this up
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>>343162289
Can't wait for standalone.
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I barely started. I just killed a noonwraith. Fuck this is great so far.
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>>343162173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPMVQiDv62c
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>>343162306
Dragons dogma
Darksouls
any tactic sort of game

probably more but I haven't really touched the JRPG stuff.
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>>343161524
>Managing all these stats and weapon types and potion ingredients is all new and entertaining for me.
Just wait until you play other RPGs and you can actually create a character and choose a class!
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problem I'm having with the game currently is when you get to novigrad in the main story looking for Ciri you spend so much fucking time just running back and forth.
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>>343161774
I gave W1 until the beginning of Chapter 3 before I gave up on it. For whatever reason, I just couldn't get into it.
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>>343162456
It's really impressive how many problems in this game are solved with a gwent.
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>>343162289
no, triple triad is far more robust

gwent is fun but it really sucks how much better nilfgaard and the northern realms are than the other 3 decks, especially since by the the time you even have enough cards to play one of the other decks your northern realms deck will be fucking stacked.
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Nilfgaard did nothing wrong
Gaunter O'Dimm did nothing wrong
Dettlaff did nothing wrong

Wild Hunt were beyond shit tier villains
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>>343159695
Sure it can.

It's also funny, how you can't find the original "trailers" they used to show off what the game looked like originally, as if they've been taken down.
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Anyone else feel like the way point system feels mindless?

Never really felt the need to learn the lay of the land or my way through a city.
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>>343162024
There's so much more that can be done with it. It'd be great to be able to walk away from a failed negotiation and allow the problem to escalate so the npc would accept a higher price, the catch being that waiting too long would have ramifications in the game world. (Infestations of Drowners in towns, etc.) As a player you're pretty much forced to accept whatever an npc wants to give you or you miss out on some of the best questlines.
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>>343162698
Honestly the top one looks like witcher 2
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>>343162728
I turned the helper features off like 2 hours into the game
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>>343162728
that's modern video games

though frankly 'learning the lay of the land' in a game as huge and empty as TW3 would be fucking infuriating anyway. It's just too big, so much of the map looks the same.
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>>343159936
I spent around 250 hours in TW2. Around 90 in TW1. I'm at 391 hours on TW3 so far. I'm not done yet.
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>>343162826
That just adds to the need to condense it.
Less fluff quests and a smaller zone with more landmarks. Would be the perfect adventure.
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>>343162740
Well, Geralt really only haggles for show from what I understand. He is basically willing to do any job so long as he is getting paid enough money to cover his expenses. It sucks as a player but I guess it is in character.
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>>343162921

What build do you find most enjoyable?
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>>343160317
Is this bait? It's a good game, but far from flawless

>Itemization sucks ass. You spend the whole game looking for plans in caves
>Character development is almost non existent
>The combat is terrible anon. The controls are stiff and its to easy
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>>343159695

Wait for Witcher 4
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>>343160317
>flawless
>flawless
>flawless
>....good gameplay

Tbh they should have focused a little more on the gameplay/combat. It keeps it from being a god tier game.
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>>343162997

Its not terrible, its adequate.
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>>343162698
First one is the old engine and was just an example of what they were aiming for. Second one was built on hardware that Sony and Microsoft had claimed they could match (and obviously failed hilariously). Third one is a compressed screengrab from a youtube video of the finished product after it was scaled back significantly to allow consoles even a fighting chance at having it be playable.
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>>343163038

CDPR have said 3 is the last Witcher game.
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>>343162981
Spellsword. I didn't invest a single buttfucking point into potions this time around because they're so laughably neutered and ultimately pointless when you can just dump into swordsmanship and signs and take on whatever you come across with ease with proper application of skill.
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>>343162476
People who think those games are better than The Witcher 3 completely miss the point of why people love The Witcher.

It's not the fluidity of gameplay or the graphics. It's the strong, believable narrative, the lived-in world, the non-vague lore, and the characters/story in general.
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>>343163141

Last Geralt game.
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>>343163167
Yes but the combat is better.

and I was way more immersed in dragons dogma than witcher 3. Think it was just a personal experience sort of thing.
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>>343163151
>I didn't invest a single buttfucking point into potions this time around because they're so laughably neutered and ultimately pointless
you don't know shit
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>>343159695
Witcher 3 is the best aRPG that came out in the last 10 years,but you still have older games and cRPGs to play.
There is still much to be seen
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>>343163192
Ciri can't carry a game imo, and holy shit they need to start working on 2077 already.
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>>343162967
My biggest gripe with the witcher games has always been geralt. I'm really not too fond of him as player character.
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>>343162997
>spend whole game looking for plans
Er, not to burst that shitty bait attempt, but you only look for plans in caves about half the time, the other half is really fun "overworld"/outside exploration.

Not to mention, if you're being a completionist, then the game doesn't suck.
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>>343159695
I have this game since it was on pre-sale on steam. But my card was a 6770 that barely run the game on low settings then I decided to gather money to buy a better card. I had some troubles in life so I still didn't bought the new card yet. But, what I can say, from what Ive played of this game in low settings at 12 fps. Is that the last time I've felt that way playing videogames was in 1999 when I first played Ocarina of Time.
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>>343161849
no
The game is amazing if you ignore combat
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>>343163312

Doubt they'd make a Ciri game, or a game about anyone we know already.
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Too bad geralt's voice makes me want to gouge out my ears. Maybe I would have made it past the tutorial before closing the game and never looking back.
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>>343162981
After everything I tried, Bear armor adrenaline build is the most fun. Get enough sign power to do 100% burn effect on igni, everything else into melee and adrenaline talents, the key ones are adrenaline = damage boost, and cast signs with adrenaline. You shit out damage and can cast signs constantly, because bear armor generates it so fast. It feels like the battlemage you're actually intended to be, where as the actual mage builds pretty much suck ass because igni is only good for its DOT and stagger and all the other signs are utility. Potion tree is fun at first but scales nearly as terribly as magic does.
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>>343163151
>they're so laughably neutered and ultimately pointless
u wot m8
potions is the most broken tree
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>don't have to meditate to drink potions

This is weird.
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>>343159695
>Goodbye
You could've at least deleted your thread before leaving.
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>>343163394
>people like this exist
how many games do you play per year if something as inconsequential as the character's voice is a deal breaker?
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>>343163192
It could be pretty neat to play a depowered Witcher game, where you play as an average citizen of a city, and there's no witcher to defend you, and the city itself would sort of be like you "region", where the majority of the game would take place in the city and would involve a more intimate camera and perspective, like a survival horror but in medieval era, where it's less about planning your strategy and more about ambush and stealth.
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Is there a reskill thing in this game?
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>>343162965

Anon you don't understand, this is open world. Thank god we no longer have to suffer the occasional loading screen and instead get to luxuriously bathe our eyes in the same handful of field objects and textures copypasted 10000 times over for miles.
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>>343162921
>I spent around 250 hours in TW2
I defer to you, oh great one.
Did you ever manage to get the insane achievement for TW2? It's among three of the remaining achievements I have for it, and it seems crazy even to attempt but it's burning a hole in my skull in its absence.
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>>343163503
yes

>>343163429
>not having a camel pack filled with potions
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>>343163503
yes. potion of clearance. most herbalists carry it. Also Keira.
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>>343163429

>didn't play Witcher 1
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>>343159695
Cyberpunk 2077 is still coming out anon.
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>>343163496
or just a game where you play as a sorceror's apprentice and get involved with a shit ton of magical fuckery.
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>>343163482
I buy... probably 4-8 games per month and generally play a fair number of hours of each. So... lots?
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>>343161524
At the beggining you may think that Wicher 1 is a mess, but while you play and progress in the game and everything makes sense, you start to pay atention to the details of the game, I love when you go to the 1st quarter of the castle. almost every npc have a unique behavior during the day, when it rains they seek for protection of the rain, they are outside in the day, goes home at night. This game is beautiful, all the flaws it have is forgivable for the love and soul they've put to make it.
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>>343163429
>don't have to chug swallow potions every 5 minutes to cast spells worth a shit

woah
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>>343163565
>you will never drink a backpack full of Tawney Owl
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>>343163613
Hopefully this isn't a case like TES/Fallout where I can get heavily into the medieval fantasy franchise but not the scifi/specfi one.
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>>343163167
Yes but that anon was talking about combat.

>>343159695
Padding: the game. The bullshit things to do in the overworld are marginally better than the average Ubisoft game.

>Find bandit stash
>Kill group of deserters
>Rinse
>Repeat
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>>343163363
You find a set that suits your build, and all you do is look for upgrade plans to said set. Which makes 99% of the items in the game useless

Yeah, real fucking good
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>>343163557
I did. Wish I hadn't because those attempts at a no-death run were fucking horrific prior to getting the dark armor that was basically fucking cheating but it was always so god damn expensive so through each chapter what I'd do before really progressing through any quests or the like was just make a bee-line to whatever would net me the most oreo dollars so I could make that sweet sweet gamebreaking armor.
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>>343163394
Play with kurwa audio then. It is pretty neato.
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>>343163075

game was actually downgraded because nvidia wanted to keep people believing their video cards are actually worth the money

because of the nvidia architecture, the game runs better when everything is downgraded
this really widens the gap between AMD and nvidia.

it also has something to do with how nvidia runs like shit in dx12

but you can tell nvidia really did ruin this game
the physical evidecne is within the needless amount of tessellation (only specific reason for this is to sabotage AMD)
and of course you have the hairworks thing too
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>>343163697
Witcher 1 had amazing TECHNOLOGY for a game of its time.

Hostile npcs actually appear and attack neutral NPCs at night, who also band together to fight back. They don't just zone in on you.
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>boring combat
>majority of quests are bad
>unlikable main character
>takes a long time for anything interesting to happen

most over rated game of all time?
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>>343163927

>NVIDIA boogeyman

go back to /r/amd
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>>343163909
dark mode using dark mode gear is easier than just plain hard, not sure why it exists.
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>>343163192
Nah, they've said that 2016 would be the year of the wicher 3, then they've launched the Blood and Wine wich was the last expansion of the game. Now they will start playing on Cyberpunk 2077 and hope we see something on the next E3. All I wish was that they launch a EE with DX12 support for free.
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>>343164004

What games do you prefer, pleb?
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>>343164004
>subjective
>subjective
>subjective
>subjective
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Just finished this a minute ago
That was quite something
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>>343159695
Witcher 3 is not an RPG at all though. But it's definitely a really good action adventure game.
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Fuck yeah. I finished vanilla blood and wine just the day before yesterday at 205 hours in a pretty throughout run of the game.

Now I'm gonna take a break and in time I'll do a deathmarch NG+ with modded graphics, upgradeable relic weapons/armors, the awesome looking random encounters mod and maybe better combat evolved 3.0 or a Geralt modded to look like a more regular guy that travels with companions.
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>>343164115
Haven't played an rpg in a while that has impressed me, unless you consider dark souls 3 an rpg, that was decently good. Rpg wise I think VTMB is my overall favorite of all time.
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>>343159695
>finish witcher 3 + expansions
>finish das3(not that into das/no n+)
>reinstalled bf4
>can't play it because ISP infrastructure is from the early nineties; have good bandwidth but feel like I should take legal action for noise bleed
>feel like there is nothing worth playing
>look into stardew
>know that I'd loose interest too quick/ writing and dialogue seems pretty awful desu
>have tw1/dx:hr/dying light
>not feeling it
>got cs:go and trine1 on sale
>sound like a hot cup of shit
>just want to be able to play bf4 or something as awesome or cozy as 'It's a wonderful life' or medieval2:tw

can someone explain to me why there are 500k constantly playing cs:go? it looks stupid. I try watching it on twitch and it just looks like a shallow bunch of crap compared to battlefield.

I honestly feel like I should just reinstall rome 2 total war again, I haven't played it since they patched it and I just want to go dox the shareholders of suddenlink and skin them by their toes because I can't play bf4 without rubberbanding and no hitreg even though I'm paying 100 buckarooos a month for 100mb/s and unlimited data. I went to their office a year ago and their receptionist told me they had BIG plans for REPLACING the LINES in my neighborhood, because they were trying to repair them and they were CRUMBLING IN THEIR HANDS WHEN THEY DUG THEM UP.
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>>343163801
Who said you should? You can breeeze through the game with your Kaer Morhen armor, nigga.

If you want better stuff, you better work your ass off. It's like you don't enjoy playing WRPGs.
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>>343164497
Why don't you try playing csgo and see how badly the players destroy you. Then you can decide if it's something you want to get good at.
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>>343163801
You were probably too retarded to notice the true value of equipment anon. There's relic stuff that has insane status effects, 100% resistances or huge bonuses like +50% crit damage.
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>>343159695
Nothing like the witcher but play the Ys games and The Legend of Heroes games they are great fun
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>>343159936

I have similar hours to that and I have 400 hours in TW3.
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>>343160317
>Flawless open-world
Cities are pretty good. The rest is uninteresting, like every open world. Some copypasted chests, a couple of bandit camps and skill points in "places of power"
>Flawless story
It's pretty good
>Flawless characters, main quests, side quests
Retarded VA, only main cast is good. The rest of NPCs are generic peasants who like to drink and say "kurwa".

Most of the sidequests are a fucking joke. If following red shit is flawless then Gone Home is pinnacle of gaming. Fuck off, they totally fucked that up. The Witcher 3 would be a solid 9/10 if the sidequests were actually challenging.

>Flawless soundtrack
>Explore a mystical cave, dark tunes in the background
>Suddenly one (1) Mglak appears
>UAH UAH UAH UAHAAAH UAH UAH
>Back to dark tunes

Literally how to fuck up atmosphere 101

>Flawless graphics
Graphics are good, color palette is kind of shit. Also lighting could be better.

>Flawless support through tons of free DLCs and updates
You mean free cut content and fixing bugs that broke the game

>Flawless expansion packs that are better than any 60$ AAA games.
>any

I'd say some. And that's only because most of the AAA games nowadays are shit.
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>>343164671
More likely he just realized the +20% adrenaline you can get from bear school equipment shits on everything else no matter what bonus stats it has.

I don't think they really thought through that set and the talent interaction.
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Just finished Bloody Baron's sidequest. I won't load a save from two hours ago, I'll suffer the consequences.

I'm 23 hours into the game, level 12. Rocking a griffin armor, gonna change it to feline later.

It's pretty good, but it's literally more casual than Skyrim and sidequests suffer from it so fucking much that I feel like they would be better as a collection of stories released in a book.

Also jesus christ polish va is absolutely terrible.
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>>343164741
Retarded bait
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Ciri is the worst part of the books and this game.
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>>343164945
>more casual than Skyrim
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>>343164972
You mean the original post? Yeah, because almost nothing in this game is flawless. There's a small flaw everywhere, dumb polack.

Don't worry, it's still a 8/10 game.
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>>343164910
Bear is useless if you already have a smattering of melee talents and chances are you do.
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>>343164503
I do like RPG's and i did enjoy Witcher

The story, the character, graphics etc are fantastic, but it's annoying how the fucked up the basic shit so badly.

One of the most basic rules in any RPG is that questing/exploration should have a decent chance of rewarding you with better loot. In TW it does not because the set items shits on everything else, even higher level legendaries

>>343164671
Nigga, the green set items would be better 9/10. Those set bonuses were just to good
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>signs are nigger tier magic

>can demolish mages in seconds with them

explain this.
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Figured I'd ask here, I just got the trilogy from the sale, but my friend says W1 doesn't matter too much in the long run, the combat is clunky, gameplay is eh, and to just go to 2, but I figured that I should get my money's worth out of it since I picked all up. Is it worth it to do the series from start to finish?
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>>343164608
I don't contest that cs:go fags wouldn't be able to destroy me, battlefield is just more complex and deep and there is a lot more you have to consider beyond corridor shooting.

I'd like to see a cs:go fag mind a heli, motor, sniper and squad rush at the same time and still maintain a beacon or few kills off the squad, or rev to win during a choke.
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>>343165161
Witcher world rules state time and time again that speed trumps strength. The same applies to magic. Signs are instantaneous. Heavy duty spells that can level a field take whole minutes to cast.
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>>343165169

Play 1. It starts slow, the swamp will make you think twice, but by fucking god play it because by the end you will be glad you did.
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>>343165086
I don't see how. The adrenaline scales to ridiculous levels with a full set, you have a full bar from like 5 sword swings when using it. I mean its hardly necessary but there's a big difference between just the talents and using all that stuff.
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>>343165169
Your friend is dumb. W1 introduces at least 10 characters that play roles in the other games, sets up the entirety of the second game and contains stuff referenced even in 3.
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>>343165057
pic related familia. Imagine how good this quest would be if it didn't involve retarded witcher senses.

same about every other quest in the game.
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>>343165169
What >>343165251 said. It's slow as fuck, the combat is in fact absolute dog shit, but the story grows on you once you get past the god awful swamp and into the meat of the story. Also there's a lot of references to the books if you've read those.
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>>343165161
Well, the game allows a signifact amount of leeway for all skills.

IF we confine ourselves to books, then we are chumpchange next to mages pure magic-wise. However, what witchers' lack in spells make up for with potions and mutations, oh and SWORDING.


"What are you doing?"
"Killing monsters."

>demolish mages in seconds with them
Igni got a nerf for this reason, but i do believe that given enough investment and care from a witcher, you can turn into a primal spell "god".


Anyway, just chalk it up next to Dragon Age 2's "There is no teleportation in this world." and "Enemy mages can teleport though, because fuck you."
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>>343165194
>comparing CS to BF
>in a Witcher thread
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>>343165270
There's very little use for adrenaline though.
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>>343165380

Skyrim literally has a waypoint to your quest objective. At least you have to look around in TW3 before it guides you there.

+combat in TW3 is much harder than Skyrim.
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>>343165250
what about buffs

how did vilgefortz enchant his quarterstaff so much that he fucked up geralt in seconds?
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the combat/ui/itemization/skill system/ setting/ main character/ supporting cast/ and overall plot of the witcher is dog shit

i'd want a legit RPG something like baldurs gate with the format of witcher 3, where you ride around on horse back going on a grand adventure, made by a non-slav team, someone like bioware but not shit quality writing and animations and not full of SJW bullshit

maybe like dragon's dogma mixed with witcher , but with D&D setting, so you can be a wizard or knight or some shit
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>>343165380
So... don't use witcher senses? I mean tracks and blood are visible on the earth regardless.
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>>343165526
Prepared, long term spells are more powerful than any witcher sign witchers can concoct.
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>>343165251
>>343165375
>>343165434
Well, then I'll just go ahead and dive into the series after I start playing ZTD tomorrow once it hits Steam, thanks gang.
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>>343165526
There's definitely an argument to be made for combat mages and the idea of traditional RPG buffs in the series' lore but it seems to be a much less used form of magic for whatever reason. Barring that example you mentioned, there's only a couple other examples of mages using any kind of spell one might consider a personal buff.
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>>343165471
It lets you spam endlessly signs if you take the right talent. If you don't take that talent yeah I guess it isn't very useful. You'd have to be crazy not to take it if you're making that kind of build though.
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>>343165745
Consider the following:
Mages are good at one thing: Flinging all kinds of spells.

They aren't physically fit, and they spend quite a lot of power on appearing differently than they are, especially sorceresses.

They don't see the need to be upclose because they are glass cannons. Battle Mages should have atleast a body of steel.
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>>343165161
Going by the lore the only reason he should ever have a chance against a mage is taking them by surprise, but he is the fucking main character so that doesn't matter. It works because he's got plot armor.
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>>343165380
There's no red clues on the minimap by default, you just added it yourself, dont complain
W3 system is also miles ahead of pic related
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>>343165484
true about combat. the difference is that skyrim never tells you how to get to the target.

also the game literally tells you which dialogue options will move the story forward. that's a fucking joke in a rpg.

>>343165595
am i supposed to turn off voices too? i mean geralt's "tips" (literally giving the player a walkthrough of the quest)

>don't use witcher senses

turn off the marker in skyrim


Listen. I don't really like muh hardcore games in which the player gets lost every two minutes. But imagine how fucking satisfying it would be to figure out how to find the witch on the graveyard on your own.

game doesn't let you do that, geralt tells you what to do.

this applies to many quests, using common knowledge or logic to figure out puzzles would be fucking awesome.
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>>343165652
this could have been an actual spoiler. Why did you hover over it?
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>>343162476
>Darksouls
Dark Souls, at it's core, it very much a lot of the same thing as W3. Familiarize yourself with animations, hitboxes, and i-frames, and you're golden. Mind you, there's a lot more to familiarize yourself with, and some more options as far as approaches to combat goes, but unfortunately the story is kind of shite in each game AMAZING setting, though and the game is surprisingly soulless once you've gotten the hang of things.

Bloodborne was better.

That said, Witcher 3 was a game that did everything it tried to do almost entirely right. Escort quest? Person in question runs/jogs/sprints at the same speed you do. Potions/Oils used up in previous fight? Automatically refilled upon meditation, during which Witchers often brew such concoctions, instead of having to manually navigate your inventory to do it (which, as much as the "hardcores" complain about not being able to do, would be a colossal pain in the arse.) Facial animations are top notch, better than motion capture. Phenomenal voice acting. Waifus. Sword/Armor design is the best I've seen in a WRPG, and I don't think I've run into a single quest I've regretted bothering with.

That said, the combat could use a few improvements, but most of them have to do with the awkward leveling system. New Game+ fixes the majority of it, but once you get far enough, you oft run into the same issues. I hear the latest patch fixes that, but I haven't returned to the game lately to check it out...
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>>343165595
and you're not intended to see them without senses.

hell, some things are literally invisible until sensed, at which point they become an inefficient path but one that requires no thought..
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>>343159695
I agree. I love this game. I love all of the Witcher games. I'm at the very end of the main quest-line of the Witcher III and I don't want to complete it because I don't want it to end. But I've just started Blood and Wine, so I've still quite a ways to go to finish it all. I have to say, I am really enjoying this game.
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>>343165901
No like don't get me wrong, I totally get the deal with mages not being spellswords or something like that, but it does need to be said that if they were smart, they'd just cast igni or something quick like that in a tight moment rather than "OH HURR I'M GONNA TELEPORT AROUND AND CHARGE UP MUH FUCKIN SUPER LAZER!"
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I was pretty flustered when I found out the mediocre enchant overwrite my runic stones, but alteast I didnt shell the full 30k for it
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You should try turn-based games, like divinity: original sin or X-COM

They won't disappoint you because it's a different genre and doesn't compete with TW3
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>>343166095
>you just added it yourself

what do you mean? reinstall the game and check, they're there by default. i discovered turning off weapon durability hud an hour ago.

also pic related, just as bad.
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>>343159695
Dragons Dogma is a better game than Witcher 3, try that out.
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Is there a single game with better female characters?

The cocklust was almost palpable
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>>343166391
>what do you mean? reinstall the game and check
I just played it 20m ago
The minimap clues are a specific option that you have to add yourself

Now it may be because I play on deathmarch, I dont know about lower difficulties
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>>343166457
That game was merely okay
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>>343166336
Only spent the first 5k, but I was so disappointed with the near useless upgrades that fucker gives you.
Goddamn Oferi Jews scammed me out my money.
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>>343166336
The only one worth a shit was the one that adds an effect to your next attack based on the sign you cast. And even that isn't that good considering it takes up the slots you could use for a bleed effect or bonus damage.
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>>343166227
I have the first Dark Souls and I haven't been able to get into it. I've only gotten a few hours into the game, but I get sick of feeling like I make some progress and dying just to get sent back to the bonfire. You can call me a casual or whatever the fuck but I get tired of dying over and over, not understanding what to do or where to go. I guess I haven't uncovered much of the story or lore, but it's not drawing me in like the Witcher series does.
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>>343166336
never get the 3rd upgrade unless you want levity for a light attack build

the 2nd upgrade gets you extra range rend/ whirl which is dank
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>>343159695
You see, The Witcher 3 and games like it don't have a story. They have an excuse. It's an excuse for a male power fantasy that pretends to be a story. And depending on how much of a grip male power fantasies have on you, you'll sooner or later just find that you're asking yourself 'why am I doing this?' Why are you? You have no real motivation.

And yes, there are people from various talented vocations from writers, to actors, to painters who'll tell you that motivation in a story is important. And 'male power fantasy' is only so much of a motivation to a certain group of people. You'll have people that tell us that we don't like RPGs, which is brain rot because I've loved plenty of RPGs. I just like RPGs that have a story.
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>>343166545
nah
>>343166457
this

dragon's dogma did open world RPG right, before any other game attempted it, and still no RPG has learned from it
the movement system, the day night cycle, the effects of the elements, the boss battles, the combat, no RPG has come close

too bad the game itself was overly ambitious and like planned for content that required 10+ million in funding , so they cut like 90% of all content and shipped it
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>>343166637
overused copypasta
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>>343166637
OK my SJW friend
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>>343166536
well i started at blood, bones and sweat (or whatever its called in english) and then lowered to sword and story when i was level 2 and couldn't find a single sidequest that wouldn't absolutely murder me (for example unavoidable wraith's lifedrain)
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>>343166637
>witcher 3 doens't have a story
you're delusional
>incoherently rambles on about SJW bullshit
no, male power fantasy is chosen one bullshit, to which the witcher wasn't , ciri was
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>>343166761
easily played.
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>>343166761
SJWs shoud like TW3, since the game kisses Ciri Sue's ass all the way through.
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>>343166457
sorry if you say about soulborne i would be fine.

but i cant stand people who praise dragon dogma.
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>tfw loved the game so much I cleared every question mark

I will never find something like this again.
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Fuck.

Please don't tell me this was the best quest in the game.
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>>343164497
>100 buckaroos a month for 100mb/s AND unlimited data
What's it like living in a 3rd world country?
t. 10 euros a month for 100mb/s, no such thing as data caps
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>>343167018
Give it some time anon.
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>>343166457
Dragons Dogma only good bit is the gameplay. The rest of the game is shit.
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>>343167123
Just finished Hearts of Stone. Gaunter O'Dimm scared the shit out of me.
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>>343167123
that dlc was fucking terrible
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>>343167224
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>>343166774
You should stick with blood and bones, early game is pretty harsh, but it get noticeably easier at lvl 10 and by lvl 20 you're unstoppable

Also I think this "unavoidable lifedrain" just happen when wraith stand on top of you in ghost form, smashing them in Yrden should do the trick

>>343166929
>Really want to clear all of skellige for coins
>Thalassophobia
Saw a whale the size of an island once, never again
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>>343167224
I don't think it was bad by any means but I don't know what's meant to be so awesome about it. Literally four missions and a sidequest stuck in the corner of the map.
Seriously if Gaunter and that posession quest weren't written so well it'd be pretty shit in my opinion.
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>>343167224

yes, the wedding was annoying.
the painting was annoying.
so little fun in this dlc.
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Why is Triss' voice so annoying?

I can't decide if its her pitch/tone or just the accent
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>>343167123
Oh, I remember him. But unfortunately I'm too poor to afford the DLC right now.

>>343167269
oh, my mistake. I was talking about the Noonwraith, when she splits up to three noonwraiths and you have to kill them as fast as possible.
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>>343166334
>witcher uses quen, literally walks up to the mage while the latter shoots sparks

Great plan
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>>343167405
>>343167224
>>343167212
>>343167123
Gaunter posting in full effect.

Remember, do not agree to random deals from mere merchants of shiny, reflective baubles, and be aware that whenever someone utters DEVIL Gaunter is there in a shape or form.

DO NOT agree to any Gaunter deals.
Get out of here, mirror merchant.
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>>343165864
You'd be better off using griffin eith alchemy and stamina regen pots
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>>343167523
Can I interest you in some spoons instead?
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>>343159863
have you not tried the alternate movement style? completely fixes movement
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>>343167523
gaunter's theme was GOAT

any villain with an eerie themesong is 10/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmxNZH3zrK8
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>>343161874
She paid me 1200, he paid me 900 after it was all said and done.

The haggling is so unpredictable. But with rich people, shoot at least halfway I found. Poor villagers or aggressive people never went 10 above. I dunno it is so wierd.

>>343162308
You are aware you can turn those off at any time?
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>>343167629
Oooh, spoons. I have to decline the offer, kind sir, as these can be reflective baubles too. Wooden spoons aren't welcome either, as we've been having incidents. Locals have disappeared, along with our spoons.

Must be the doing of the spoon griggs.
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>>343167263
blood and wine was infinitely better, in every way possible
the story they tried to tell with heart and stone was just not a good story
the characters werent good
the motivations weren't there
the entire DLC was pointless and you just ran around being a little bitch errand boy for some faggot who deserved to die a long time ago
but go ahead and pretend the claustrophobic cluttered mess that was heart of stone was actually good, and not complete shit by comparison
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>>343161849
witcher one really starts with good story and quests after a few hours.
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>>343161849
Witcher 1 is garbage besides the Alvin/Grandmaster reveal.
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I'm 35 hours into TW1 and I'm only halfway through the game. Am I just that slow or is the game supposed to take that long? I've been doing tons of side missions and I've been taking it slow but I didn't think I was going THAT slow.
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>>343167828
>you just ran around being a little bitch errand boy for some faggot who deserved to die a long time ago
you mean the duchess?
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>>343167893
Counterpoint: everything about Witcher 1 was good except for the cosmic bullshit at the end.
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>>343167828
>i hate the story because i do not get it
>I hate the story because i do not get it and not see the tones, points and story in it.

Yeaaah, i'm not sure it's the DLC's fault. Hearts of Stone was a glorious DLC, better than quite a lot of single player games or dlc.

Iris' story was heart wrenching.
And since you probably don't know - Gaunter was in every single fucking scene. EVERY SINGLE ONE. In the corner of your eye, none too obviously, "sitting on your shoulder", and occasionally meeting you and "whispering".
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>>343167828
>the story they tried to tell with heart and stone was just not a good story
>the characters werent good
>the motivations weren't there
Factually wrong, HOS was GOAT
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>>343160317
Combat fucking sucks. Why do people ride its dick so much when it's garbage?
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>>343165526
>vilgefortz
You mean the guy that was supposedely the most powerful fighter and one of the most frightening mages and entities in the known world in that point of the books?
Vilgefortz could literally take an elven sage and give him a run for his money, jesus christ, he killed a higher vampire in 2 hits.
You can't generalize taking the most powerful nigger on the planet as an example.
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>>343166591
Not that guy but BB might be more up your alley?

Also not a fan of demon/dark souls. I like the idea and can play for a bit, but the constant trek back after every death bores me.

BB's lanterns are not particularly close to each other but the speed of the game as a whole is just way faster so you can get back to where you were pretty quick after a death.
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>>343167981
>Bad characters
>Bad combat
>That FUCKING SWAMP

Nope.
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>>343167979
who hired you , as a witcher, to track down a monster that is killing people
and dont get me started on how fucking shit quality writing the heart of stone was, and how fucking awful it was to pretend you were doing anything related to being a witcher, entire fucking thing was so fucking out of place and did not belong in the game series at all, and you were punished for not sticking up for the retarded faggot who murdered people infront of you casually everytime you had a meeting

>>343168006
>>343168018
>rpg codex defense force trying to defend shitty dlc
lol, the fucking DLC was so fucking pointless and worthless
go ahead keep pretending its anywhere near the quality of blood and wine, because you got a gimmicky bad guy who's literally nothing and amounts to nothing in the entire story, because nothing you do matters and you never actually accomplish anything other than remove a fucking brand from your face and either save or watch someone die
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Which was the best area and why was it Crookback bog?
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>>343168401
because banana tiger banana tiger banana tiger banana tiger
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>>343160317
game is very good but c'mon it is by far not flawless, especially open world will all that shitty treasures in place of "?" that don't have any meaning besides bloating the game
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>>343168190
because they are mass effect plebs who want cutscene simulators
they are shitters from rpg codex who come here to shitpost every single day, literally thats all they do all day fucking long, and they've been doing it for fucking years now, since even before witcher 2 came out. they sit here shitposting pretending that game wasnt terrible and the gameplay wasnt complete shit

witcher 3 launched so fucking terrible they had to patch out the ui, patch out the movement system, patch in a storage box, because who would have thought it? a loot based game where you actually can keep your loot??

fucking terrible devs, and the combat is still complete fucking shit, you just need to use quen repeatedly because its so shitty and unresponsive and cheap and lazy. everything about that game being given GOTY, and dragon age inquisition the year before it getting GOTY is what is wrong with gaming right now.
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>>343168401
For me it was Croissant.
I was raised in the italian countryside, so it was nice to see a videogame that reminded me of home.
In vanilla it's Skellige, of course.
HERE COME DAT WITHCAH, SLIDING DOWN DA MOUNTAIN
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>>343168391
>Because you got a gimmicky bad guy who's literally nothing and amounts to nothing in the entire story, because nothing you do matters and you never actually accomplish anything other than remove a fucking brand from your face and either save or watch someone die
I'm not quite sure we played the same game
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>>343168597
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is making false statements because I'm too much important to be wrong
>everyone who doesn't agree with me has shit taste and it's just a shitposter
>If I had played the vanilla version of the game at launch I'd have known it was perfectly fine and it only got better, but instead I have to hate on the game because it's popular
This is what you said.
>Please praise JRPG with shitty combat in other threads so I don't feel a lonely weeb anymore and I don't have to go out of my way to come here and shit on one of the best RPGs of the decade because of butthurt
This is what you tought.
>I have poor taste
This is what I understood.
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>>343168391
> and how fucking awful it was to pretend you were doing anything related to being a witcher

You know the entire Witcher series, books included, are about a Witcher, with superhuman abilities, surviving from situations normal human beings could not.

That is also why he is regularily called upon by kings, he is a known problem solver and most kings don't require aid in solving monster problems.
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I can't get into Witcher 3

Guess I hate fantasy
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>>343168391
>Ghosts, 6 layers of curse and the devil himself arent witcher work
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>>343168391
>Game is about serving a king and finding your daughter
>Previous game was about a political situation unfolding in an unexpected way
>Fist game was about a religious faction trying to change the world with experiments
>The books are about Geralt's adventures more than monsterslaying
Being a monsterslayer has never been the focus of the series, nor being a witcher simply means you kill creatures for coin.
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>>343160168
Blasphemy, Inquisition is amazing
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>>343168391
>nothing you do matters
Gaunter O'Dimm literally tells you how to convince Ciri to become a witcher if you ask him, so check your facts, faget
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>>343167959
You are that slow. The first time I played the game, I took my sweet time, read almost all the flavour text for the potions, bombs etc as well, and still could finish it in 40 hours side missions included.
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>>343168190
What's meant to be so shit about the combat?
Could be better, could be worse imo.
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>>343167959
Average time on HLTB is 47h
Beside you shouldnt feel bad anyway, slowbros are a blessed kind
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>>343167959
TW1 is pretty linear, so you're taking a long ass time to do pretty basic shit like walking places.
You might want to organize your agenda about what quests to do in what area to avoid that much backtracking.
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>>343169178
This
>>343169219
Also this
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Just finished B&W. Story wise and quest wise HoS is untouchable, and the bosses were generally better although final one in B&W is the best one. But man Touissant is the best region, and the new monster variety really completes the game for me, and it's still pretty solid story wise. Also, O'Dimm and Olgierd were great characters, but fucking Regis is best boy forever, I want to hang out with him on quests throughout the whole game.
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>>343169163
Combat is bland and unresponsive. The movement system in general is horrendously annoying, especially the horse-riding. Most of the quests also just turn into using your Witcher Sense, which is kind of a cop out for actually figuring things out.

As someone just now playing the game for the first time, it blows my mind that this was GOTY. I don't hate the game, but it's really only got the large world and quests going for it.
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>>343169516
I'm sorry friend it seems you're confused, I asked you what makes the combat bad and all you've got to say is 'it's bland and unresponsive' like those terms mean anything on their own.
Especially that unresponsive one jesus christ I'm pretty sure Geralt responded to the buttons I presed.
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>>343169516

>unresponsive

How the fuck is it unresponsive?
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1 is slightly better than 3, though. Also CDPR fucked up hard by not including a story and lore heavy character like Iorveth in 3.

I'd give it a strong 8.5/10

I think bloodborne is better
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>>343169780
Iorveth was in the game, he was cut for time restraints. He will sadly never see the light of day again, unless they make a spin-off, but don't count on it.
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>>343169591
Jumped the gun on my thought. The movement system is what's unresponsive. Combat is just repetitive and tiresome. For me it ended up being spamming Igni or Quen then mashing X until things stopped moving. The camera was usually fighting against me as well, losing focus of enemies like the foglings or the tree-guys when they use vanish. Blocking is also kind of a chore, as usually blocking an attack just left me dazed. There's just better combat in other RPGs.
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>>343170062
I knew this. Point is, they should have removed other shit and included Iorveth instead.
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>>343170089

>playing on easiest difficulty
>not dodging and counterattacking
>not using potions/bombs

fucking end yourself
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>witcher 3 is the best game ever you've gotta play it
>install
>okay this seems pretty cool
>get past the bog stuff
>man this combat is repetitive and movement is awkward
>try alternate control scheme, it's a little better
>finish game
>"its fun. Not the best game ever by a long shot though
>but the story and graphics and lore!
>Yeah but the gameplay
>IT'S NOT ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY

I'm sorry for prioritizing gameplay over story in a video GAME
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Jesus this place is worse than reddit with its witcher circlejerk. Why must we have the same threads about this game everyday.

We get it you like the game. Fuck off and shill somewhere else.
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>>343161649
My nigga.

WW is second best.
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>>343170691
>Why must people talk about videogames on /v/
Everytime
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