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>It's a "Losed 10/10 ranked matches" episode
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>It's a "Losed 10/10 ranked matches" episode

And I thought Quickplay matchmaking was broken, I keep getting paired with 30~50 versus 80~100+ people

I'm not touching this mode again
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acquire skill and play with friends who are also good :)
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>>343157968
I played with a 5 man premade, we're 40~50

> :)

opinion discarded
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Me and 5 other friends are gonna do the 10 matches in a couple hours, hoping we dont get fucked.
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>done 7/10 placement matches
>lose win lose win lose win lose

Did anyone else experience this?
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>Win the first 4 matches in a row
>Get two shitters that intentionally lost the next two for us

Still made it out with a 51 though.
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I'm 5 loss for 4 wins right now.

I'm scared to do my last match.
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>>343157925
>I'm not touching this mode again
>t. piss baby
You won't be missed.
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>>343157925
>Blizzard makes ranked matched
>consumer realize how garbage the game is

Who would have thought
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>Lose 4 out of 5 in first 5 placement matches
>Win 3 in a row
>Last game my team is autistic and doesn't know how to reset Overtime
So close to being 6/4 but no dice.
I'm Rank 49 so at least I'm half way there. I can't imagine having to start at something like Rank 20.
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>>343158115
all the esports teams already did their placement matches so you'll at least not run into them
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Wait. There are idiots who solo queue in a team game and seriously care about their rank? That can only lead to heart break and disappointment. They should do it how Halo did it where each arrangement of people in a queue is its own ranking.
>example
>you and dustin always play together
>you and dustin are rank 10
>you and dustin queue with mike
>you start at rank 1
>you play a few games but mikey has to go
>you and dustin queue at rank 10
Same applies to Dota and LoL. You're not only banking hope on being able to beat the enemy but having allies who want to win as much as you. With no real barometer to tell you where you really place on the ELO food chain. The hell.
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>>343159116

Newsflash, people are fucking retarded

Solo Queue rating in Dota 2 is literally all anyone gives a shit about and nobody cares about team queue rating at all.

It's an absolute joke, just goes to show how retarded the community is.
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>>343159116
In league you can win in solo queue constantly if you're good and play right. Plenty of people do it, it is probably the same in OW. You just have to play very good. I've gone on 20 winning streaks in solo queue.
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>>343157925
Pose your placement scores

8/2 here for rank 58
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>>343159809
0/10 - 39
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>>343159837
You are just memeing, right?
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Is there an advantage to placing high besides bragging rights? Do you get more competitive points?
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Ranked Overwatch reminds me of the Iron Banner events in Destiny. Playing solo you go up against premade teams non stop. Only solution is to get some friends or make some new friends. You can try and carry a pub team but you're going to hate life.
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>>343160101
What the fuck are competitive points even for?
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>Not purposefully losing all your placement matches so you can seal club shitters in the low ranks for ez wins
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>>343159809
In PTR, I went 3/10 and was ranked 46.
Today on live, I went 6/10 and was ranked 52.

In both cases, the matchmaking got noticeably more even after getting my ranking. 5/6 or 6/6 in voice in every game too, at least to listen.
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>>343160212

Buying golden skins for weapons, as far as I can tell
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>When you and Tracer time your ults just right
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>4 gold stars in first 3 matches
>All losses

I don't know what else to do. And yes Objective Time is always one of those golds
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>>343159553
There are several reasons for this being the way things are, stream culture and the prevalence of solo-queuing being the primary ones. Basically, streamers got popular for being good enough to carry teams by themselves, so everyone acts like the ability to shit on low ranking pub players is impressive and important. And then, it's just plain fucking tough to actually have a full team of people you play the game with frequently, people have lives, other hobbies, and even other games to play. Solo queue is home for most people, but they still want to "rank up" for whatever insipid reason, and until we can build a system intelligent enough to determine how well a player actually played without only looking at raw numbers or the binary win/lose state, this shit is what we get.
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>>343160101
I think higher ranks do get a better end of season bonus than the lower ranks.
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>>343159809
7/3 55
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6/4
rank 58
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>>343157968
Anything can be good if played with friends. Blizzard needs to stop being a lazy ass and fix the matchmaking.
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>>343159809
5W 5L, 55
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>>343157925
>losed
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Friend gets placed 58, I get 48 (only played 2 of my placements together). I know he's not that much better than me and my averages for the games were pretty solid (I know they are higher than quick play due to length). I don't get this shit.
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>all genjis in rank mode are god like
>check their profile, playing genji as their main, play time over is 50 hours only on genji

holy fuck, its like they can use their ult every 10 secs in every rank match
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>>343160568
WTF did Americans do to you?
This is about Overwatch "players".
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>>343160101
In one sense, having a high rank is bad. You're up against tougher enemies, and you have to work harder to avoid being dead weight for your team. Some colossal faggots will deliberately de-rank after a winning streak or create smurf accounts because it's more fun to be the best player in the game than the worst.

See this guy:
>>343160224
He's joking, but there is something real behind it. I lost six competitive games in a row yesterday. Today, I grouped up with a level 1 friend who just bought the game and got gold eliminations as Lucio. Guess which was more fun?
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>>343160754
Some people like a challenge while others prefer to play games on easy mode.
What is more fun is all up to you.
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>>343160258
Team up with someone in these situations. You're the only one on your team who can get kills, deal damage, or survive on the objective. Take your obviously superior skills and instead try to help out one of your allies. Two mediocre players ultimately have more value to a game than one ace alone on a team of retards.
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>>343159881
no, why?
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>>343160630
I belive genji is genuinely stealth OP, but no one realizes it because everyone who plays is a shitter complaining about mei and bastion.

It's not even his damage output (which is insane), it's his super safe playstyle. Yeah he has low hp, but if he goes in and kills one person, he instantly has an escape again, not to mention he has an escape every 8 seconds anyways and a "can't shoot me" button every 8 seconds too that lasts 2 seconds. He's super safe and with some minor practice, I started completely annihilating teams with him.

His only main counter is basically winston (just like widowmaker). Everyone and everything else that's considered a counter to him he can avoid unless the entire enemy team is those characters in which case you've won because your team will probably steamroll them.

All they would need to do to fix him is remove the free CD reduction on kills and make his deflect only last 1second, keeping all of his possible damage and animation canceling in tact. At least then he wouldn't be so easy and safe to play.
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It basically feels like just a slower version of Quickplay. In Quickplay I can exit out my game as soon as it's over.
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>tfw you play with friends, lose 6 of 10 matches, get the highest personal ranking out of all of them, and get silvers and golds every match

I want to just try solo queue at this point, I'm not saying I'm the best but I'm tired of watching my friends pick Hanzo and shit and do nothing

>tfw your friend says "haha wow I just watched you die" and when asked why they didn't try to save you from the soldier shooting you while you used a junkrat ult they say "he wasn't shooting me"
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>>343160224
>Smurfing

It's only fun as jokes
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tfw I'm about to be 5/5
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>>343161043
Cooldown on double jump and can only wall climb after a double jump or if double jump is not on cd. If the goal is to make him less safe, then a significant nerf to his mobility will do more than anything else. Keep in mind that his job is essentially the same as Tracer's, he just does it a bit differently, so him having the ability to zip around isn't a bad thing, it's his incredible vertical maneuverability that causes problems. If jumping hitboxes weren't so fucking stupid in this game it wouldn't be that big of a problem, though.
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>>343161278
How can you play with them? I would be having 0 fun.
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>>343160258
If these are placement matches you should still get a nice rating.
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>>343161043
Genji has the same Play of the Game problem that many heroes do. People who don't play the tend to see the POTG and think "that's how you play them". Nope. Genji plays at mid-range and only goes in to cowardly finish off injured enemies. Stats say that 90% of Genji players get 4 or less ultimate eliminations in an entire game. The POTG is a lie.

>>343161278
How to play solo queue: Find someone with voice who plays well and group with them. Repeat until you have six people at 80% winrate for the night.
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Threadly reminder if you got less than rank 50 you're a shitter who should go back to quick play
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>>343161571
That's what I thought on mine but nope. I mean I was 50-2 with 67% kill participation. Gold elims, obj kills, damage and objective time in just my first game. Very similar for 6 of the other 10 games and I got a fucking 48 while my friend got a 58. I think it counts some of quick play Mmr as well.
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>>343158140
I won 6 and lost 4. One of those losses was someone quitting before the match started so the match got cancelled and it counted as losing. So that sucked.
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>>343161912
I got kicked for inactivity while discussing player selection. Our whole team got a loss for that one because Blizzard doesn't think push to talk and chat count as being active.

Just fucking disable inactive kicking in Custom and Competitive.
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How do you win a Pharah vs Pharah dogfight? I don't know how to lead my shots in the air.
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>>343162191
Lead your shots in the air
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>>343158140
>Do amazing in 3 games
>Suddenly get matched up back to back with people who are obscenely good.
>Do amazing the next two matches
>Suddenly another match against obscenely good players

The matchmaking is literally shit.
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>>343162191
Just practice dude. Move unpredictability. The fuck kind of question is that. Is this your first fps?
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>>343162103
You can select a character and then chat, you know that right?
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Gimme your predictions, lads.

I'm thinking 40.
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>>343162191
Predict where she will go, remember your missles have travel time. Use splash damage. If you're in trouble, use your bouncy blast to get away.
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>tfw lost two games in a row in my comp rank match
>I was support
>everything was overwhelming with Tracers harassing me, everyone shouting for heals and everyone flanking my ass
>time my ults wrongly
>I predict all of my placement matches will be losses
I feel like shit right now...
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>>343162191
Areal superiority. Be the last one to use your jump jet and the enemy Pharah will hit the ground first. Stay away from walls, and try to get the enemy near them. Use your concussive blast to escape if you're losing.

Also, don't. Find an ally and make sure the enemy's allies aren't near enough to assist.
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>>343162361
I know. I was just distracted. Somehow I was even typing in chat but didn't notice the warning message.
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the match is one sided if there's a really good tracer/genji on either team.

at least we dont have to worry about widow one shot bodyshotting.
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get good
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>>343162406
Skill rank is not about win/loss ratio. It's about who you won and lost to, and how well you did compared with your allies.

I had 3/10 in PTR and came out with a 46.
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I'm 3 losses and 3 wins so far

2 of the losses were full of people bitching about the team when they had the lowest scores and weren't doing shit. one was a hanzo the whole match on attack. Third loss I don't mind, we stopped the enemy from reaching the end of the payload map and we started strong, but then everyone switched off onto their "mains" and everything went south. They still tried and nobody bitched about it so it was a nice game
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What's wrong, /v/? I thought you said Overwatch was "fun".
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>>343162790
it is, just not in competitive play
much like how shitting is fun, but not bricks
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>>343162761
I had a guy that played only Genji and was bitching at us for not getting on the point, meanwhile me and my friend as duo tanks (Zarya/Hog) had gold/silver in damage, elims, and Obj kills/time.

>on attack
I'm not sure where this notion that Hanzo and Widow are bad on attack comes from, in fact in real competitive play they see more play on attack than defense. They pick apart defensive lineups are excel vs Torb and Bastion (which generally only see play on defense)
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>streamers already getting butthurt and salty

Why would you make a party game competitive mode? It's a one way trip to shitsville.
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This wouldn't be so bad if you got one measly little point for a loss because you are at the absolute mercy of everyone on your team.

If ONE person leaves your team for ANY reason at all, maybe they disconnect due to connection issues or whatever, that's it. You get nothing for that match. You basically wasted 15+ minutes all because one person left.
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>>343162790
>>343162837
I find competitive fun. Seeing your rank get visually destroyed after a loss feels kind of shitty, though. If there was an option to hide your skill ranks except in profiles, I think I'd turn it on.
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>>343159809
9/1, 54
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>it's a /v/ gets BTFO and then cries about le bad matchmaking episode
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Having played a ton of SC2 ladder, Blizzard uses an algorithm that takes a lot of games to calibrate your actual mmr so it may be setting you too high to begin with.
I haven't actually played Overwatch though, but I do remember what it was like.
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>>343162837
How is competitive any different from quick play? It's the same shit but with a virtual rank slapped on it.
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>>343157925
If you aren't touching it, don't touch it because that it determines wins is a fucking load of shit. Any half decent team can get the payload to the end of the map. Then you win or lose entirely based on who gets lucky enough to be put onto attack. Not to mention hero stacking is allowed. I hope you're ready for nothing but double Winston and double Lucio.
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>Think ranked will make the game fun again
>Still boring as fuck

Welp. At least I only paid 40 bucks for it
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So do you only get 1 competitive point per win? One has to earn more in higher levels or it would mean having to win 300 matches per wep.
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>>343160253
>unironically using the hot topic skin
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>>343163101
>sudden death
>forced retarded mechanics
>lòl "longer overtime"
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>>343163163
you gain more if you go on a win streak
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>Get 3 good matches to start with
>The next 7 are filled with idiots who dont have a fucking clue
>The next 10 past placement is filled with idiots who dont have a fucking clue
Like for fucks sake
Its objective
If its cart, get on the fucking point so they have less meters
Its its point, stay on the fucking point and defend
If its koth, stay on the fucking point and defend
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>>343162947
I would not complain about snipers on attack if I ever got matched with one. The 2nd attack had a bastion just demolishing our team, while I was reinhardt. So obviously i couldn't do shit as he was elevated and in a good corner. And nobody on our team even tried to go for him until I suggested a different hanzo switch to genji and go for the bastion. And they did, but they weren't very good at it even though I told them the general good way to do it but at least they tried. The bitchy hanzo was a bitch, and some other retard switched to bastion and then complained I wasn't on his ass shielding him the whole fucking match. My job is to shield everyone else, not you hiding in a corner feeding zarya. I had gold in damage, objective kills and time, and silver in elims. And on our defense I was mercy. Bad players are just bad players
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Ok what seems to be the average? 50? I need to know if I'm actually decent enough.
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>>343163295
We don't know for now
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>>343163000
Adding bots to fill in for missing players is an obvious quick solution. The only reason why Blizzard isn't doing it is probably because they don't want people to realize (even more) how completely awful their bots are. Still, I'd take a suicidal Zenyatta over literally nothing.

In a few of my games, I've sat the games out after the enemy lost a player, making it effectively 5v5. Now, we won all those games in the end, but the enemy team were always thankful for the good sportsmanship.

https://youtu.be/Icj8UOVpSIA
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>>343163295
50 does seem like it yes. People are getting placed from 30-70 initially.
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>>343163365
Valve bots are worthless retards but it still is useful.
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>>343163375

>Average between 30 and 70 its 50

Somehow I do not think this adds up.
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>>343163453
Only because you can control them honestly. They literally sit there for 2 seconds before shooting you.

Overwatch bots actually do more, but you can't control them and they will charge enemy's ults faster.
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>>343160151
I agree. But at least we don't have to grind and play raids for certain weapons or light level.
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>>343157968
>friends
why would ANYONE want to be friends with /v/irgins. All you would do is unironically act autistic/retarded, spout memes and imitate random anime characters then go full autist mode when people look at you like, what the fuck?..... I've been to the /v4c/ synchtube room and holy shit you faggots are worst than SJWS and hipsters. Cringe as fuck and I feel embarrassed for you. NO wonder youre always hating on anyone having fun. misery loves company.
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>54 placement in PTR 9-1
>48 placement in live 5-5

I really pulled some shitters. On the other hand I got some 60 elims and a 40,000 damage blocked. Easy sailing since placement.
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>>343163484

Wait what? Either I'm retarded or 70 + 30 = 100
100 / 2 = 50
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>>343163512
Blizzard bots will look at enemies through walls and shoot them with literally 0 ms delay.

For fun, try to flashbang a Reaper bot and see what happens. It's literally impossible unless his wraithform is on cooldown.
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>>343163169
How do you know it wasn't ironic?
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>all these faggots complaining about bad team8s
>get friends
oh that's right you are toxic as fuck :^) you are all going to die friendless and alone. enjoy your chink cartoons tho
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>>343163621

But there is no one with the levels <30 or >70
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>>343163741

My friends suck at Overwatch. I had to sneak some games in before they got online.
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>>343163752
There is a level 74 person
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2/10

welp I knew I'm a shitter
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>>343163752
Yes there are, I said INITIALLY as in after your placement matches.
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>>343157925

Where do people expect the Ranked players come from? It's literally the same "idiots" you played Quick Meme with.
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>>343163885

So the middle number between 74 and 30 would be the average.

What I am saying is that 50 will be the average eventually, just not yet.
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>>343163752
There will be room to grind. The typical player will get placed in the mid-40s and grind to 50. Pros get placed near 70 and will then compete with eachother to grind higher.
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>it's a pcuck mad theyre shit at a garbage fps game and spewing forced tumblr memes post
Seriously kill yourself faggot
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>>343163986
it isn't ranked that people are complaining about. It's specifically the placement matches. It's gonna be a blowout in either direction and it sucks. I'm sure people will also attest to having better matches after getting placed
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Somehow managed to pull a 5/5. After that my first competitive match was in Temple of Anubis where we made a team of 4 Winstons and won in just a couple of minutes.
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>>343163860
>get home late from work
>join a game already underway with my usual friends
>spectating
>player on opposing side ragequits so i'm thrust into the game against 4 of my usual teammates
>actually help turn things around and win
>they never brought it up again for the rest of the night

Guess they figured out who carries who.
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>>343163163
You get a lump of points when the season ends based on your rank
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>>343163990
You don't seem to understand what I said. I said INITIALLY, as in AFTER YOUR FIRST 10 PLACEMENT MATCHES. Holy shit, people are able to go higher or lower than that afterwards.

And I saw a 78 on some fag's stream. Are you now going to say the average is the middle number between 78 and 30? There are also certainly shitters below 30 now as well.
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>>343163101
Your teammates and opponents take it seriously so there's no room for doing silly shit or trying new stuff
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>>343161043
This. Shitters also flock to him because of his survivability. Genji is fun to play, but can easily become useless if he fails to live up to his roll.

Like>>343161683 says, I feel like genji fits in sort of the same slot as winston but in the opposite way. Winston takes on aggro and allows teammates to finish enemies, while Genji uses teammates as aggro and finishes up for them. Both can take out flankers/backline/solo players too, winston having an edge on widowmaker, tracer. Genji having an edge on bastion, tjorborn.
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>>343164206

Fuck I know that feel. I absolutely carry my friends every single game, and to be frank, they aren't that good. But I love them too much to just not play with them even in competitive. Fucking funny group of wankers they are.
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Anyone have any Sudden Death stories?
>Kings Row
>defending and making enemy team go into sudden death for every point
>eventually lose
>8 minuet round
>attack and blow their asses out of the water in 2 minuets
>sudden death
>we have to attack again
>we only have 3 1/2 seconds to cap the point
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>>343159809
8/2 67
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>>343164379
I agree with this.
I have more fun winning 40% of my games with friends than winning 60% in pubs.
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>do 7 matches with literal retards
>get matched with a full team of 100+ all communicating
>someone on the enemy side left, match cancelled
>next match is 3 reapers on koth

Help
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>>343159809
6/10 52

In two placement matches people left when we were winning.
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>>343164124
Worst we did was stack four D.Vas on Hanamura first point attack with 30 seconds left. No regrets. You can't pen six people into their spawn doors for five minutes and expect them to keep their dignity.
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>>343162406
as far as i can tell its just +1 from 50 for each win. i had 7 wins and got 57. but im not sure how true that is
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>>343164806
my friend 10/0'd his placements and got 65 so nope
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>>343164806
>im not sure how true that is
It's about as true as something that isn't true at all.
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>>343165039
ah. it seems like theres a variance based on personal skill combined with your wins. since i'm hearing 10-0 on placements and seeing 63-65
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>>343159809
5/5 47
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>>343159809
23
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>playing the ranked mode of a casual Blizzard game
People ACTUALLY do this? Its the LoL syndrome. Enjoy whatever "fun' you had with the game being stripped away as you keep having to play with dumb randoms and fight against Blizzards retarded design
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Holy shit ranked is making all the streamfags ragequit
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>>343166715
ty based blizz
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5-5
Did all 10 matches with a friend.
I got placed 52, he got placed 49.
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7 losses in a row. gold medals all over the place in every match. stacked, unstacked, doesn't matter. the matchmaking in this game is just so bad. it can't place you against a balanced team like, ever. and your teammates are always the most incompetent fuckwits you'll ever meet.
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>>343157968
>skill
>mattering in overwatch
delusional af
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>>343159809
10/0 - 65
Zarya is fucking cheese desu.
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>>343160253
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>Win 4
>Lose 6
>Rank 49
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>>343160224

And this is why you only play this mode with full premade.
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>>343167964
Did you thank your Zarya for making it all possible for you to cheese?
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>losed
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>>343159809
10/0 - 64
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>all these shitters under rank 60
do you even fps games? god damn that is sickening
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>>343167990
What the fuck, I went 7-3 and had 2-3 gold medals almost every game and I got the same rank.
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>>343161912
>One of those losses was someone quitting before the match started so the match got cancelled and it counted as losing. So that sucked.

Wait, these count as losses?

In Dota 2, if anyone DCs before the horn blows, no one(besides the leaver)get's counted as a loss.
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>>343157925
Is comp out yet is it still just test server
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>>343159809
9/1 - 58
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>>343159809
6/4, ranked 55
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1/10 somehow got 56 was gold on most matches for eli dmg as roadhog
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>>343158081
maybe u guys are shit?

learn and improve instead of blaming everyone else
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>>343170729
The ranking takes your own personal stats into account

So you can have a terrible team, or lose by a thread, but as long as you're decent your rank won't be hurt as much
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I think it's funny how a game can break 50/50 most of the time because lack of skill involved. It really is a casual team shooter.
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