New mouse
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I've been using a logitech G9 for years now and it is starting to die.
Requirements:
>minimum 5 buttons
>physically large
Any recommendations?
G600
>>343157316
Hex v2 or a naga
don't listen to /v/ theyre good mice just expensive.
Had several logitechs shit out on me
>>343157316
Rival 700 (or 100)
The goal is to avoid laser mice, they are objectively inferior in every conceivable way.
Logitech 502 has an optical sensor and is pretty big as well.
>>343157959
700 or 300* I meant. Not the 100, it is fairly small (though awesome)
>>physically large
you loved a g9 all the way till it started to die and you're looking for a replacement with opposite characteristics?
>>343157840
tried the naga once, it was ok but still felt quite small.
>>343157959
the Rival looks like it is needlessly riced up but I might give it a go. The 502 is comfy but I didn't get to actually use it so unsure.
I'm a fan of the Naos 7000. Prediction free sensor and I like the shape and feel. It's pretty large, too.
zowie or suicide
>>343157316
Just learn how to solder senpai,
I have had my g9 for almost 8 years and I just re did all the wiring a few months ago.
todays "gameing mice" are fucking trash
Deathadder is alright
>>343158074
Didn't love it, didn't hate it. I got it for a birthday present the year it came out, only reason I didn't get rid of it sooner is because it would seem wasteful and ungrateful to either toss it or give it away/sell
I've had to use the wide smooth grip the entire time because the textured one is just too small to use without giving myself a hand cramp.
>>343158179
>Rival looks like it is needlessly riced up
The 700 is, but I like the extra thumb button. It isn't any different than the 300 really, just slightly wider. They have an incredible 0 acceleration pixart optical sensor though and an easy to reach DPI toggle.
I'd go 300. You can get them at best goy for like 45 bucks new. The 502 uses a good zero acceleration sensor as well, but it has some stupid fucking software with it.
You can also go with the latest DeathAddar, it has a great sensor, but you'll be replacing it every 6 months because Razor has the worst build quality on the market.
If you want to pay a lot and have a shitty mouse wheel get the Zowie Evo 2
>>343157316
Roccat Nyth is your guy. It's about the only mouse that almost fits my giant hands perfectly and you can make your own button arrangement since it's modular.
>>343158557
>300 is $100 with postage because no local store for shit like that
Well, fuck it. At that price I might as well just get the 700.
>Ausfailia
M.M.O. 7 is what I've used for years, no complaints. Very customisable and plently of buttons
>>343158805
I have the 700 and I'll warn you the vibration is just gimmicky shit. I mean it is AMAZING but it only works in 3 games. If I could force the haptic palm feedback in actual games I play it would be a total game changer, the best mouse on the market. But as it stands it doesn't do anything for me. I wish I could map it to incoming damage on Overwatch since damage indication is pretty useless in that game.
It does have superior side rubber, almost a hard plastic, will probably hold up better than my 300 did (I had the OG Rival, before it was called 300. Still works but I wore a literal hole in the side of the rubber. Apparently they've changed the formula to be more durrable in the newer 300s tho)
>>343157316
>new mouse
>after a G9
Sorry OP, you're not going to find anything better than it. I tried.
>>343158403
if only the click resistance were lower. otherwise great mice.
Just the thread I was looking for. Anyone got experience with the Ducky Secret Mouse? Would be -25% on my online retailer's site and Ducky's keyboards are fucking amazing.
>>343160854
>not going to find anything better than it
The G9 uses a laser sensor, it is an inferior mouse out of the box. You just haven't seen the light yet anon. Don't worry. once you try an optical mouse without acceleration or correction you'll see the light.
Related: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZzbKDmFOqsP_ut2RdctD01OEbZzbXol6HLwqVkSmZcg/edit#gid=0
Old document but will guide you well. Optical > laser, in all ways
>>343161773
>flawed sensor
Doesn't matter, accuracy flaws of that level are imperceptible (gladly prove me wrong though?).
Form factor, comfort, and longevity all play big factors in a mouse as well, and in that regard, every mouse is garbage these days. My G9 cost me 45 euros at launch and lasted me 7 years before the scroll wheel started to die. I'd love to see something like that again.
I own a G502 now, and while that's okay, it's just not as good.
G400s is still one of the best mice I've owned.
>>343162050
>gladly prove me wrong though
Laser mice are not precise. They require software for correction. Though the tech is newer it was designed primarily for tracking purposes (i.e. it tracks on a wider range of surfaces). Optical is extremely precise but picky on the surface (you want a cloth pad on a flat surface).
The difference is astonishing in reality. There are all sorts of resources online showing the raw input test comparison. Laser mice have things like positive & negative acceleration, angle snapping, and prediction algorithms. They are great for drunk surfing in your livingroom or at school, but not for precision work (like gaming).
There is also the fact that optical mice are generally cheaper & have less "gaymur" rice too, but that is a preference thing.
The basics: google /t/951894/the-truthful-mouse-guide
Exhaustive: google /?topic=56240.0
TL:DR need something simple: google /gaming-mouse-myths-busted/
I'm trying to find the site where they did a robot arm test of popular gaming mice laser vs optical but I'm having a hard time finding it. Basically they put the mice in a grip, and it drew a circle in a raw input application (MSPaint) and also Vs & Ms. It displayed very clearly where the correction and acceleration affects the input significantly. So much so that the laser mice would be almost unrecognizable as Vs and Ms after just a half a second of drawing while the optical mice produced identical results every time.
Laser with correction software is cool for desktop and browsing usage, but you'll never be able to properly precisely aim in games or draw with it. I really I wish I could find this site. If the thread stays up long enough and I find it I'll post it. But the information above should be enough.
I just don't want to see people make the wrong choice. Don't fall for marketing hype. All you need is 800-1600 DPI, optical & a large cloth surface for the absolute best gaming experience.
>>343158696
Looks different.
>>343163258
I didn't say you were wrong, but my point still stands that I don't think humans can perceive that sort of difference. The accuracy of a laser mouse vs a good optical mouse probably isn't noticeable in games, and definitely not by me.Also 1000 DPI best DPI.
>>343165351
>I don't think humans can perceive that sort of difference
It is perceivable within less than 1 second in any application that accepts raw input. If you have an optical mouse and a laser mouth launch MSPaint right now and try to draw VVVVVVVVVVVV in the most perfect straight way you can at a reasonable pace. The optical mouse will look about right but the laser mouse will look nothing like what you attempted after the first V
>>343165590
Drawing V's and actively looking for flaws isn't the same as playing games.
:V
>>343165590
you forgot to mention that it needs to be done at a speed of 3m/s
>>343158962
>Madcatz
>>343165643
Not really. Being able to move from point A to point B reliably is a perfect comparison to your needs in precision in a game. If you need to move up and to the right and your mouse doesn't end up where you push it then it is a flawed input device (like a laser mouse).
This is one of the few ways you can objectively assess the real world gaming capabilities of a mouse in a measurable way
>>343165869
>Being able to move from point A to point B reliably is a perfect comparison to your needs in precision in a game
it sure is handy all those games where you never lift the mouse off the mat and every addition must be cancelled out by the same amount of subtraction, with no losses
>>343166472
K, if you want to remain ignorant that's fine. Just hope you're always on the opposing team is all. Don't want to play with people who intentionally gimp themselves
Zowie EC1-A or Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0?
>>343157316
If you're okay with chinkshit then Redragon Mammoth is actually pretty solid. Bought one nearly a year ago and haven't had any problems whatsoever.
>>343158518
What condition is it in?
They don't make them anymore. Finding mice as small as the g9 isn't easy, pretty much all 'gaming' mice that claim to make an effort to be precise and suited for the task are quite a big bigger than the g9.
>>343157316
Don't buy any of this marked up gamergear and buy a nice generic mouse.
A lot of companies sell (pic related.) It's damn good and cheap. I've used it for over a year and prefer it to any of the other mice I've used.
>>343157316
any another logitech mice, just not razer or ss - it's total trash
All you need
>>343169283
Nice mouse anon.
I too have a off-brand mouse.
It's pretty comfy and highly programmable.
>>343169510
I can't go without at least two thumb buttons nowadays.
>>343169283
oh shit my nigga this is great
>adjustable weight
>those side buttons and the small scripting ability they come with
>that light selection
>DAT DPI
It's fucking great, but the shameful part is searching for a company that doesn't have a pure ass for a logo.
>>343169283
Aren't these mice just cheap Chinese knockoffs that don't even come with custom buttons and are just shortcuts for keyboard buttons instead? That means it will use keyboard button binds instead of adding mouse 7, mouse 8, e.t.c.
Top tier right here.
>>343170897
Shamefully yes, I've added my own custom buttons for it to use but currently rolling the usual 1-12 with a few macros.
>>343171281
That's a huge no for me, because in an mmo almost every key that is not awkward to use is mapped to some ability or a macro already, so I have literally no free keys left on my keyboard, which is why I need the extra mouse buttons. I'm pretty meticulous about binding things, but it gives you a huge edge in everything.
>tfw logitech killed the G400, 402 AND 400S and the MX518 shape is finally dead
FUCKING WHY
>>343171557
The 402 has a shit sensor desu
>>343171669
wait you mean it isn't just another 518 rebody
what the fuck logitech, good thing i picked up two 400S on sale to hoard for the next ten years
>>343171718
No, what I meant was it didn't have the best-in-class pmw 3366 sensor like their g303,g502, and the g900
tfw no one else still uses trackballs
>>343157316
Get G502
best sensor
good customisation
great comfort
