When are we gonna get another decent mech game lads?reverse joints best joints
From is apparently working on something mech-themed. I'm hoping it's a new Armored Core.
Who /QUAD SQUAD/ here?
>>343113675
how do I stop sucking at this game
>>343115724
This is a good way to tell if someone has played and enjoys Armored Core. They don't immediately say VD was shit.
>>343115724
what's wrong with AC2? and why do they think Nine Breaker is good?
>>343116896
AC2 slowed the game down a lot, it also had a very small amount of parts and even less viable parts/combinations.
Ninebreaker was an amazing update and was the best NX era multiplayer
>tfw 2 is the only one I played
>>343120891
What's stopping you from playing the rest, faggot?
>>343121012
The fact that they're either not available anywhere, or expensive as fuck.
And emulation is for losers!
AC:Master of Arena is one of the greatest video games ever created.
>>343115724
Was AC4 really that bad? I enjoyed it, albeit the achievements were balls off the walls hard to get.
>>343121012
Not the same guy but I can't imagine playing backwards, or even start in at the bottom. Last one I can play before my nuts shrivel up from how old the games aged is Last Raven.
I have 3 and a question: How the fuck do I get into this? I want to, but I can't into the controls, and actually engaging in conflict is so... hard?
Hard isn't exactly the right word, but I'm unable to move in a way that even resembles what I want to do, and I can't seem to target and aim in a way that befits what's basically a giant tank.
ok guys i need to spend my money reasonably and can only buy one game this month. i am thinking about buying an AC game, but not sure which one. i have only played the 3rd but couldn't finished, college and all.
i have a ps3, so recommend me the best AC on ps3.
>>343113675
2 was the first AC I actually bought having only played AC2AA versus at a friends store multiple times.
I tought i had been scamed or something it didnt play or control at all like the AC game I had played before. I tried really hard to get in to it but after a couple of weeks I went back to blockbuster and sold it.I had bought it for 7 dlls as it was a ps2 game and 360, PS3 had already a couple of years out.
Years later I bought AC3 and immediatly loved it it was perfect and made me regret sellign my AC2 copy and i wanted to get back in to it but then the cockbuster near my house closed and now the only placed ive found it is in garage sales or swap meets who want fucking 20 bucks for it.
>>343121603
everything before nexus doesn't use analog controls which is why you might need some time to get used to it.
>>343115026
muh nigga
>>343115583
What's wrong? Which one are you playing?
>>343121896
ebay. I got my copy recently for like five dollars.
>>343121947
Nexus fucked me up so much, the switch from using the L R buttons to look and strafe was agonizing considering how much time I had spent getting used to the controls.
Of course it was a positive change but still... goddamn.
>>343122003
nigga that's a jaguarandi
>>343121947
Oh no, it's not even that. I've never played a AC game before 3. I grabbed 3 and two of the side-sequels back at Gamestop when they still sold PS2 games, so I have no point of comparison. I literally can't figure out the controls.
Is it unresponsive because I need to gitgud, or do I need to change the controller map to maximize efficiency? Am I not moving correctly? What is the core advice you'd give someone just getting into the semi-analog AC games?
>>343115724
>AC2
>Nine Breaker
I disagree with you strongly on those games but otherwise agree on everything else
TARGET VERIFIED
COMMENCING HOSTILITIES
gimme the robots, From
>>343122210
AC2
>>343122398
AC2 is probably the weakest game of the series though. Not even him.
>>343122394
well remapping the controller might help you a bit but I didn't do any of that.
usually you want to strafe to avoid shots and turn your AC so your targeting box lands on the enemy. look up a few videos online for comparison.
>>343122748
It was so goddamn slow compared to MoA, what were they thinking?
>>343122768
>>343122394
Remapping won't help, maybe, I dunno. You're looking for buttons that aren't there, you've got to unlearn everything about how you've moved in video games for the past ten years.
Getting used to how to use the L1 L2 R1 R2 buttons will be you're biggest hurdle, but that's how you figure it out.
>>343122727
How far along are you? If you need dosh, grind the arena for cash. You can make it pretty fucking high in the arena from the get go with only a rifle, generator, and booster swap.
>>343122423
>AC
>AC
>ACE
nice
>>343113675
light pedbest ped
AC2...
I still have the Prima Guide for it. Kurosawa.. RoboCombat.. Raven.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ENAJhhxJs
>>343122915
Beats me. Glad they upped the speed in AC3.
>>343122915
>>343123551
So the other Armored Core games are faster? I got AC2 alongside Zone of the Enders 1, years ago, and I played ZOE 1 a lot more because of the higher speed and mobility.
>>343121603
Swap your FCS to get a bigger targeting square.
When trying to deal with vertical aiming, it be very conservative when moving the camera, manuveur the robot to line up shots before spending too much time trying to fight with R2 L2.
When fighting air targets, it's better to strafe in the direction they're heading and trying to reach their altitude if your energy permits. So if they're moving to the left side of your screen, strafe leftwards with them. Best to use guided weapons on stuff like jets, etc. Air targets are usually the hardest for newbies to track outside of high speed ACs.
>>343123719
Yeah. Usually.
>>343123719
2 is by far the slowest and most disappointing of the PS1 and PS2 games.
Get Master of Arena for PS1 or Silent Line for PS2, my favs of each console.
>>343124013
I brought AC4 for the PS3 a while back, but I haven't gotten around to playing it yetI should really stop letting /v/ eat up all my time.
>>343124293
You really need to get for Answer instead. 4 isn't all that great.
>>343124293
I haven't played anything past Nexus. Never bought a PS3 and now I'm an oldfag who shitposts while watching Netflix because I'm dead on the inside and video games no longer bring me joy.
>tfw got my Master of Arena core design published in Tips&Tricks
VIDEOGAMES
>>343124013
2 may not be the best AC, but it is literally a perfect entry point for new players.
An okay amount of weapons that are easy to get a feel of their mechanics, has overboost and heat mechanics that are present in a lot of the later games but aren't too excessive, campaign and story thats pretty easy to follow and has some decent fights, isn't too difficult to complete.
Later games can be really overwhelming if you don't know anything about the series.
>>343124293
For answer is better.
>>343121275
It was fine but 4A was an all around improvement
>>343115724
there was a stage in the arena in AC2 where you could fly on top of a building and just whittle the enemy down with homing missiles or something like that
shit was busted. But I suppose you had to be a faglord like me to actually abuse it
>FROM will never make another Armored Core
>>343126769
I discovered that when I was a kid, but the AI for the last few guys in arena was smart enough to fly up and hit you, so then I had to fight them for real without having ever gotten gud on the easier enemies. It was rough.
>>343130229
>tfw cheesing Exile and those other cheating nigger AIs in 3 by going to the very corner of the map and waiting for them to fly out of bounds since the AI always tries to get behind you at high levels
>armored core 2
>mission is that zrihara desert whatever the fuck it was called
>night time mission
>3 ac's are talking to eachother
>they all fucking notice you and all gang up on my bitch ass
>had a quad AC with the super dual chainguns on my back (not the single ones)
>moonlight and the 40 round bazooka
>fucking circling and overboosting like a motherfucker
>popping my dual chains on the brown black bipedal AC with the same bazooka as me
>motherfucking purple reverse legs bitch is hitting me with a karasawa
>overboost right up to her and moonlight her ass
>last is the blue quad ac with the fucking LEMIA back pulse cannon
>trying to didge and shit, pop off shots with my zooka
>kill his ass
>feel like a fucking boss at the end with adrenaline pumping
>they all say some epic death lines right before dieing
I miss the death lines, but what i miss most especially is the mail system that you would get from a's in the arena and on missions, if they bring that back for the next AC game i will be really happy
Isn't AC popular in japan?
I never played these games.
I wish they made a AC collection edition with all the AC games bundled u for ps4 or pc or xbox
>>343135124
>AC
>PC
good joke
I tried emulating 2 but the controls were so bonkers that I couldn't play it.
I think it was triggers to turn and bumpers to look up and down. Are those how the controls are supposed to be?
>>343136745
What's funny about it? From's games go on PC now.
>>343137404
Yeah man.
>>343133192
Virtual email is always the best
>>343137438
None of the old ones that are surely tied to the hardware in janky ways
>>343137941
Do you get used to it after awhile? I'm using a PS3 controller, so would it work for me to use the dual analogs to look around?
>>343138521
>surely tied to the hardware in janky ways
In that case, why isn't it a good joke for an AC collection to be on modern consoles? Why specifically PC?
>>343113675
when From floods the market again
>>343137404
>tfw died repeatedly on the tutorial fight in AC2 because of muscle memory for my custom control mapping completely making me seize up because nearly every button was wrong
shit was retarded
everything was fine once I got past that (you can remap absolutely everything to your liking after getting past that, but not before the intro battle)
>>343138652
>Do you get used to it after awhile
Yeah. Just keep playing and you'll get the hang of the controls.
>'m using a PS3 controller, so would it work for me to use the dual analogs to look around?
Afraid not.
>>343115724
>liking post AC4 nucore
>>343115724
last raven is the best entry in the series senpai. by a mile.
>>343119104
>AC2 slowed the game down a lot
>less viable options
Ayyyeeeeee
Now we have a fucking spaz fest where heavy mechs are absolute shit and speed is the only shit that matters.
That dark souls faggot needs to stop making games.
>>343137438
VD was 2013. That certainly didn't have a PC release.
>tfw there will never be ZoE 3.
I just played trough the ZoE HD collection in pretty much one sitting.
Man they are fun games, combat is especially orgasmic in ZoE 2. You almost feel like you are dancing as you pulverize house sized robots against one another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVOxvABhdA
Fuck AC, we need a real chrome hounds single player game. Sure the multiplayer was great but that shit died FAST. Was the most depressing shit ever.
It's just from software is the shittiest game dev fucking ever. I have no idea why dark souls got so huge. It was alright for a bit but by the time I got to Anor Londo I just did not fucking care anymore. It got so fucking boring.
Their games are janky as fuck not counting the bugs and graphics which are some of the worst fucking graphics comparable to a barbie game. They are a completely incompetent team that either has no idea what they are doing or rush every game they have ever made.
From Software just need to try ONCE.
>>343140368
Weren't there some plans for ZoE 3 revealed few years back?
>>343140710
Nigga I love chrome hounds to death but armored core is the shit. There arent too many games that let you design your own mech and armored core does it the best. Silent Line and Last Raven are probably some of the best in the series and I really hope From goes back to a regular campaign instead of some forced online world thing.
Is VD still alive on PS3? Might consider it.
>hurr durr japanese mech designs fuggin unrealistic af
>pussy fast unrealistic flying cuck combat so stupid for teenagers
>y don't u play a REEL mech game fuk ur bipedal bullshit
>love a game where i can pilot a fridge with treads
>>343141746
Because slower paced games are still fun. You're like some fag that thinks flight sims are shit just because Ace Combat exists.
>>343141746
You can like both senpai.
>>343141107
I mean... when it comes to designing your own mech then chrome hounds has AC beat in variety and parts easily. Not only that but you can build single role mechs that would as a team unit where AC has gotten to the point where speed > everything else.
I haven't played any game that let's you customize your mech as much as chromehounds. I mean, you don't just CUSTOMIZE your mech in that game (or like AC) but you build that mother fucker from scratch. It's awesome.
I just... I really don't like the direction AC has been heading.
>>343122371
no this is
>>343141746
How do you feel about Japan doing slow "realistic" mechs?
>New Excellence Frames confirmed
>Barshem's confirmed
>Coutswell confirmed as Enemy Unit
>Dark Brain confirmed
Moondwellers just keeps getting better and better
>>343144572
>shitty turn based game with no strategy and the only appeal are from movies
no thanks
>>343140368
>there will never be ZoE 3.
My dream game is/was a game that somehow bridged the Metal Gear universe with the ZoE universe with elements from other Kojima games like Policenauts. There would be clones of characters from the MGS universe mixed with characters from ZoE. Now it can never happen.
>>343113675
still waiting, probably wont see From make another AC game for a bit more Souls is still too fresh a bread winner for them to milk
Can I rebind the controls in an emulator in a way to make them not janky as fuck?
>>343145392
My dick would literally explode if they made a Armored Core game that was just a Souls clone with robots
>>343145993
They'd just have to call it Armored Core Souls and Soulsfags would buy it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrUlMuGD_gY
Post your intros niggers, also AC:LR was the first AC I played, fucking got destroyed until I got gud, and even so I still keep getting rekt
>>343142893
I wish they'd do it more.
>>343146189
I love fighting in urban environments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blK4Nhpd6rE
>>343145857
You can rebind the controls in every AC game. In fact I think starting with AC2 you literally go through a screen where you pick your control scheme/button bindings before starting the game.
>>343145993
What's life been like living with an exploded dick for 17 years?
>>343145012
You can't even use the shift key.
You're not a human. Your opinion doesn't matter. Subhuman trash like yourself doesn't have the right to think.
>>343146638
I mean taking the exact same mechanics and game engine and just making an Armored Core game out of it.
>>343146638
>>343145993
Y'know I've wanted to have an AC game where you can play as MTs for about 13 years. Just because the heavier MTs seem like they had a fucking functional shields.
They get that into Armored Core 6 The New Exciting way Corporations Screw People: I'll personally clue everyone in the Front Mission team's hands to their faces.
>>343147161
> slow ploddding Armored Cores that can only quick boost in some directions for a steep energy cost
> no vertical gameplay at all
>primarily melee with useless ranged
No.
>>343147161
>no vertical fights not aerial-based enemies
>50 guns but everything is overclassed by a shitty sword
Dunno if robots can roll but you get the point
>>343147521
"Rolling" would probably just be a quick boost in a direction more like the bloodborne quick skip bullshit.
>>343147337
>Jets instead of rolling and running
>could still work in vertical gameplay somehow. Like combat in the air or something.
>obviously would have to make ranged better and do some tweaking to how combat works.
I'm just saying I want them to take what theyve learned from Souls' success and implement it into a Armored Core game. Like enemy/boss variety and level design.
>>343145993
>you will never experience this
Armored Souls
>wanting to play last raven on the vita
>Even with the second analog stick the controller scheme is always a clusterfuck
Should i just try to emulate ps2?
>>343148853
I'm not sure if they emulate well but if you can use a controller with double triggers then that would be better.
>>343148853
>trying to play "Learn to strafe simulator while doing 3 more things" with a vita
Cmmon my man
>>343149295
I remember emulating Project Phantasma just fine on my old PSP without too much difficulty with controls, just had to bind aim up and down to the analog stick and always used a FCS with a wide enough targeting area I rarely ever needed to aim up or down.
>>343121275
I played AC4 after For Answer and I enjoyed it a lot. I got to see the world before it went to shit and AC's felt a lot weaker so everything I accomplished in the game felt more impressive. Gameplaywise For Answer is the greatest mech game because of the mobility. I remember my joy when I made an AC that could stay in the air indefinitely.
>>343149989
If i remember well that only worked on some patches of the game. You could also make a next with infinite burst or whatever the speedy booster was called, pretty sweet
>>343150663
I only ever played For Answer on 1.4 regulations. I think the 360 version got as high as 1.6 which was balanced the same for all weapons but you could infinite boost regardless of your generator and booster set-up.
>>343119104
That's arguable. I think Last Raven was the best for multiplayer out of all the AC games.
>>343113675
Tomorrowit got streetdate broken already at some places tho
>>343144572
5th of June is so far away.
>>343153348
august. fuck. timetraveling shenanigans
>>343142893
steel battalion is the perfect balance of slow western mech and fast easter mech design. they could literally port the game to pc with a higher draw distance and framerate and it would still hold uptfw steel battalion with AC customization will never happen because FROM and capcom fucked up so hard with heavy armor there will never be another SB game
>>343153348
Just wait
>>343154583
yeah, now I just need to beat OG1 and OG2 before MD English release.
Coustwell got nice update honestly. I never liked it in J visually.
>>343141421
>two and a half hours
Well, assuming you're still around, it's not very alive, but a couple guys on the 4chan team get on every now and again. The times are kind of random, considering right now it's two Americans, a German, and an Australian will be joining them soon, but it's something.
armored core 1, 2, and 3 are the best in the series. absolute perfection
>>343155056
MoA and Silent Line are better than 1 and 3.
>>343155235
>silent line
too much overheat or whatever it was bs. i don't think it was overheat, but something else. whatever negative stat it was they added. the only reason they did that was because they wanted to ruin all the fun builds
>>343155410
You're thinking of Nexus. Silent Line didn't change 3's mechanics at all.
>>343147802
Fuck off with your stupid Souls bullshit.
If you weren't a regular AC player for 5th gen, you don't deserve to have any control over how the game plays.
>>343147802
>I'm just saying I want them to take what theyve learned from Souls' success and implement it into a Armored Core game
I ctrl+F'd HAWKEN and got no results.
Is it really that bad of a game? Because I know it's a mech game with a sizeable playerbase.
>>343147802
Have you even played an Armored Core game?
Having a fucking nostalgasm right now. Klein was like probably one of my favorite bosses, he was so fucking creepy.
>>343158127
it' was an ok arena shooter, but nothing much to writhe home about.
But F2P system didn't really helped it much, balance kinda became meh, too long to grind for mechs and I dropped caring about it.
Mecha genre is niche and more dedicated mecha fans don't really care about online games all that much.
How do I do that Tanker Defense mission in AC4?
>>343158965
That one's dependent on memorizing where the subs pop up and flying out to those places and destroying them before they really do anything. Shooting the bombers that come later is easy.
Or if you don't feel like killing everything, you can shoot the ice yourself.
>>343159292
oh shit didnt know i could do that, thanks
>>343159632
Yep. Get some hefty radar, that'll help locate them. Grenades and large rockets will take the subs out the quickest, but be sure to bring some kind of rifle or machine gun for the bombers. Maybe also the AS missile shoulders if you have those.
>>343153760
>they could literally port the game to pc with a higher draw distance and framerate and it would still hold up
Yeah, if they could take the first game and Line of Contact, combine them, port them to modern platforms, and put out more of those controllers, that would be one hell of a thing.
Sad to say but I feel the controller is the biggest barrier here.
>>343115724
I've only ever played VD but I've always been interested in the series since the PS1 days. It's too bad my prior experience has only been demo discs. I kind of wish VD wasn't so multiplayer focused.
>>343122423
20/10 tastes. Would bro.
>people forget that Jack-O's pilot was a direct descendant of Tarkus
>>343122423
You're missing one, boyo.
>>343113675
I miss the remove limiter mechanic AC2 had. it was rarely a good idea but it's such a fun cliche
>>343160143
formula front is there, between AC3 and ACE3. he just has a different cover.
>>343160257
Look a little closer. Compare the looks of both Formula Front cases. If you still don't see it, then the spoiler is for you.PS2 version.
>>343160345
are there any major differences like LR portable or SL portable because I haven't played the PS2 version.
>>343160429
Well, for one, if you choose to manually control your AC you get to use a PS2 controller instead of a PSP.
>>343160143
Formula Front was on PS2? I'm a nip and I didn't know this.
>>343158358
You know what's really ironic? He got to where he was because of his vendetta against Nineball, and in the end his methods and ideology was the same 'the ends justify the means' crap that Nineball practiced.
He even says the same thing to the raven who ends up killing him that Nineball said to him years before when it became clear to him that the raven isn't going to back down. 'What is your wish?'
I've been trying to play the original Front Mission but I keep getting rekt.
Is there any advice for the early missions? Being outnumbered AND outgunned is suffering.
>>343161160
Use shields.
Soften enemies up with missile first.
Only use 6-7 characters tops. The first five that join plus Hans/Paul and Meihua are the best.
>>343161306
Ah, so I should be using shields instead of shooting back? I'll give that a shot.
>>343161160
Spec Royd into MGs and get Speed, Double, and First ASAP, he will OTK rape enemies close to endgame
And yeah, missile on one shoulder and shield on other.
>>343160143
Literally the same damn thing.
Are there any good mech games on Steam?
I've been thinking about Strike Suit Zero, and lost planet, but I dont know if I'm missing something else.
>>343164437
Aside from a couple of sidescrollers, no.
>>343164437
Brigador + few JP indies like Gunhound EX, Gigantic Army, Vulkaiser.
Why won't From stop making their yearly meme souls bullshit cooridoor fighter and give me another AC game? Please, I'm sick of and not interested in your roll combat simulator. GIVE ME MORE ROBOTS
>>343164578
>>343164686
Ok follow-up question
Lost Planet or Strike suit
If lost planet, which?
>>343161421
shields are nearly the only way to increase defence. Also if you only use Llyod he becomes a god in the second or third mission.
DESTROY
NINE
BALL
>>343165151
dunno, didn't play in either of them.
Tho I really didn't heard much good stuff about Strike Suit and Lost Planet 3.
>>343165214
pls no
>>343165151
Lost Planet 2 has amazing co-op. First game is okay. Stay away from 3.
Strike Suit Zero sucks dick.
>>343115724
>lowest is Formula Front
hey now
>>343115724
Shit taste. All of the HD games are mediocre, and AC2 was far better than the bloated mess that was Another Age. At least you got the original trilogy right. Master of Arena is the GOAT Armored Core game.
>>343167157
Nigga Another Age is basically an expac for 2 and the gameplay is the same.
But yeah I prefer 2 myself, oh and fuck those sea levels in AA especially hard.
>>343139464
>not liking ac4 on
its okay to like things anon, /v/ is anonymous.
>>343141746
why can't you like both you fucking faggot?
>>343167254
Like 3/4 of AAs missions were shit. AC2 was consistently good while AA was good once in a while.
>>343151468
Last Raven had 2 problems, a horrible and poorly implemented part breaking mechanic and a massive accuracy nerf across the board
>>343145993
thats a stupid thing to want and you soulsbabies are really fucking retarded.
>>343160143
Fuck off, ahab, psp version or bust.
>>343167414
Agreed. The only thing I might want from Souls is the relationship between weight and speed. Instead of making set speeds for different leg parts make them gave max speeds and then the more you load onto them the slower they go. So if you get powerful legs and go light with everything else you are faster than if you went heavy with the same legs.
>>343167369
My one and only grudge with the late 3rd gen is the fact that the player's AC is nerfed to shit while the AI's more powerful than ever. I just feel like crying when I have to fight some quad motherfucker ski boosting infinitely while I have trouble just keeping up with a light AC. It's like going to a friend's house to play Quake 3 on Dreamcast and the fucker hand you a controller while he's all over your ass with kb+m.
fart
>>343167453
It's not bait, it's truth. Although mediocre might be too generous for the HD games. Miyazaki ruined the series. You "GOTTA GO FAST XD" faggots need to fuck off back to whatever Platinum's latest licensed turd is.
>>343167651
ebin
>>343167560
But speed should be tied to boosters, not legs. It's not like a good player ever walks anyways, and I like it better that way. Hell, the 5th gen approach of "boosters are always on" is my favourite, stomping is stupid.
Legs are for equip load, stability and turning performance.
I loved AC but the last one i played was silent line. I got verdict day last year and enjoyed it, but grinding S ranks for parts and rock-paper-scissors damage types were annoying. Do the PS2 games emulate well?
>>343115724
V and VD are cancer. Threshhold defenses ruined them as wells as the boosters
>>343168164
You need a pretty good computer to not have massive slowdown.
>>343167583
Wasn't that because everyone else was Human Plus/using OP-INTENSIFY?
>>343121506
I tried AC2 for the first time in over ten years and that aged quite horribly. I really dig Nexus, though. Even now.
>>343139464
You mean past FA. Quick boosting and second staging was revolutionary u shit
>>343168394
I have a 3.2 quadcore i5 and a gtx 960. Never tried PS2 emulation before.
I tried the psp version of Last Raven but the graphics were just unbearably bad.
>>343122423
I like you.
>>343168581
Last time I tried was with SL with an R9 280x i5 3.4ghz, some missions were still pretty bad.
I can't remember my settings though.
>>343168617
Thanks m8.
https://youtu.be/Gk5fOiABbOY
RIP Chromehounds
