>Re-imagined enemies, weapons, and locations by original concept artist Robb Waters.
>The user interface, game mechanics, enemies, and puzzles will be updated to reflect modern aesthetics and sensibilities, while maintaining the feel of the original.
> new VO will be recorded.
>Enemy limb dismemberment
>Brand new musical score composed by Jonathan Peros.
NO! They said they wouldn't change anything!
T-they're changing the music, /v/-the music!
Hold me.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock?token=a72debe1
I played the demo. While it's extremely short and barebones, it did capture that System Shock feel.
Color me intrigued.
>>343112931
My fans went absolutely insane when I booted the demo up. I need an upgrade.
But it looks absolutely beautiful, I have to admit. It's a bit too dark, though.
Bumping for interest.
>He honestly wants the game to be a literal copy of System Shock 1 except with better graphics
Are you fucking serious? If anything, the demo didn't change enough. It's area by area the same shit.
>>343114348
Yeah, that's the point.
The game is already perfect. Why change anything besides the UI and the graphics?
The new areas idea will be cool, but a new voice acting team (besides SHODAN) and new music?
C'mon, anon.....
>>343113091
Alien Isolation looks better. This demo only has very tiny rooms with very little things being rendered on screen. The only reason you need to upgrade for this game is because it's poorly optimized.
>>343114746
Maybe because the technical limitations and player expectations have changed? It'll be to the original as XCOM is to X-Com; a good game, but still different to the original.
>>343112669
Your advertising is beyond transparent.
>>343115259
But literally the only problem with the original System Shock is that it's hideously outdated.
The new graphics update and the keeping of mouselook should make it more than adequate to satisfy modern audiences.
I also don't understand people who bitch about the game being released on Xbox One. There's literally nothing about System Shock that couldn't work fine on consoles.
>>343115087
No, the same thing happened with Ryse Son of Rome. I think I'll just have to upgrade my fans and my processor.
>>343112669
>new VO will be recorded.
By Terri Brosius, yeah.
Here's hoping that it comes to PS4
>>343116046
No, she's only returning to voice act SHODAN. But the rest of the audio logs will be recorded by new voice actors.
Terri hasn't had to voice act SHODAN in 17 years. I wonder if it'll still be the same now.
>>343116135
Only the Xbox One is getting it initially, but they said they're open to releasing it on the PS4 too.
>>343114746
>The game is already perfect. Why change anything besides the UI and the graphics?
It's a complete waste of resources. You're wasting time and developers on making a game that already fucking exists.
Over half of the game should be changed. It's ok to have a few callbacks, but if the whole game is just literally the same shit, why the fuck would I want to play that? I already did two decades ago, god damn.
>>343116241
I imagine she's the one that voice acted on their dumb pitch video. Sounds the same to me.
>>343112669
I seriously hope you guy didn't back this yet.
>>343116490
But they're adding new weapons and areas, anon.
It's the voice acting change and the music change that I'm pissed about.
They said they're remixing the original soundtrack as well as the adding a new one. Why the fuck do you need to remix the original's one?
I wasn't even born in 1994, so don't say I'm a nostalgia fag. I just love the game a lot.
>>343116792
This is fucking great
>>343116593
Yeah, I just watched it there.
She sounds good, but I think there's a bit *too much* stuttering. It makes her kind of hard to follow. I'm not complaining, just offering a bit of healthy criticism.
>>343117519
>I'm not complaining
why are you fucking afraid to complain
god, if it's a legit criticism it IS complaining, there's nothing wrong with that, it's what you're SUPPOSED TO DO if you're giving them money to make it better.
>>343116792
I actually like this.
>>343117730
I'm not giving them money. I'd love to, but I don't have it right now.
>>343116792
>not using texture filtering is part of your art direction
I hope this game will fail now
>>343116792
>it's pixelated on purpose
wot now m8? Will the sound have popping and controls be floaty as part of their art direction too?
>>343118491
>>343118324
>SS2fags
>>343112669
I got stuck on a ladder with a repair bot corpse at the bottom of it.
Into the trash.
>>343116792
>maxime lebled
you guys heard of him before? his political beliefs are utterly bonkers
>>343118853
Forcing those ladder animations was a pretty shitty idea.
>>343116792
rip eyes
>>343118907
we don't need to bring politics into every fucking thread
>>343118853
Can't you jump off?
There had better be a goddamn lean function.
If there isn't I'm dropping it.
>>343115087
Alien Isolation was programmed by fucking wizards.
Multiplied crumpled paper from my inventory, game began to stutter, crashed when opening a door. Neat.
>>343116792
so what happens if you force anisothropic filtering? this is retarded.
I am enjoying this pitch video so far.
https://ksr-video.imgix.net/projects/2304682/video-682080-h264_high.mp4
![077085105d5f96a1c0f66b7783ec2ab6_original[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VpBcVZ9.png "077085105d5f96a1c0f66b7783ec2ab6_original[1].png")
Should I do it bros? I don't like the direction it's taking and I feel obligated to take the plunge just so that I can be the autistic voice of authenticity on the forums.
>>343119382
>that Street Shark
>>343119253
There is.Kinda janky at the moment though.
>>343119426
If you give €10'000, you can go to a private party with the developers and have your name on the TriOptimum members board and in the credits.
I think that's pretty cool. Obviously you'd have to have shitloads of money for that.
>>343119838
Access to the dev forums is just 250€. That's should be enough to get my point across to the devs.
>>343119906
>250€
I should go to bed, it's $150
>>343119167
I tried everything. My view got stuck infinitely bobbing and I could do nothing.
>>343120052
This is an actual pre-alpha, not a AAA """"""""""""""""""pre-alpha""""""""""""""""""
>>343120193
this
EA and AAA companies use of the words beta and alpha have twisted what people expect, Black Ops 3's beta isn't what a beta actually is.
>items don't work
>no berserk LSD effect
trash it
>>343119167
No, you are forced to go through the entire ladder climbing animation.
https://youtu.be/v_uJ47oKHY0
This game looks beautiful.
>>343120528
No, it looks like shit.
>>343120528
what the fuck is wrong with the person playing
>polygon
oh.
>>343120617
compared to the original it's breathtaking. Particle effects seem pretty sweet though.
>>343120528
>>343120617
There's a demo available on steam if you want to try it yourself: http://store.steampowered.com/app/482400/
>>343120617
How does it look like shit? What looks bad about it?
>>343120807
He has the worst shot of all time. He missed the mutant at very close range loads of times.
>>343120873
My PC fan can't handle it. I can run it fine, but my fans just aren't able for it. They get really loud. I'll hopefully have it upgraded before it comes out.
>>343120807
>compared to the original it's breathtaking
>>343120903
The melee parts are inexcusable, people should learn to gauge distance but the shooting is actually kind of odd. I shot at one of the mutants heads and their weird animations made the shot go right past them.
>>343121067
are you actually trying to say that the original system shock looks anything other than dog shit
>>343120903
the unfiltered textures
>>343121067
System Shock was released 22 years ago.
Are you insinuating that it doesn't look like total ass by modern day standards?
>>343121201
Yeah I missed 3 times trying to aim at the head and had an identity crisis where I asked myself if a shitstain like me is even any better than Polygon.
Then I aimed at the body and hit every time.
>>343114746
I'm at the part where you have to go to each level and write down the numbers on the screen in some tiny-ass corner I forgot where.
This part's fucking stupid. Nobody will miss it in the remake.
>>343112669
>combat feels bad,swing animation looks bad
>You can't feel the hit
Other than that it's okay. Didn't spooked me much.
>>343122179
There is no way that those misses by the Polygon player were anything other than Parkinson's disease.
He missed so many times at a close range.
>>343122521
It's probably a controller.
>>343122502
Is there a lean function, anon?
I didn't see the Polygon dude use it.
>>343122405
Reminds me of the bit in 2 where you have to go through all the slides in the paintings of the residential sector for a keycode.
>>343120528
>yfw Polygon player finished demo many times to not look like a retard
>>343122564
It's actually a mouse, he's just that bad.
>>343122614
There is.
>>343122614
Yes there is a lean function Q and E on keyboard. It dosen't lean that much.
Why the fuck do mutants look like they take about nine million hits to take down with the Sparq beam in the Polygon video?
In the original a Sparq beam just split a mutant's head open like a balloon in two or three shots.
>>343122765
That's a shame.
In the original, leaning was pretty overexaggerated. Y'know, he leaned like an obtuse angle.
>>343122564
If anything a controller would make it more accurate.
I've always been more accurate in shooters on a controller, at least.
>>343122795
Because he's missing 90% of those shots.
>>343122502
melee looks like dogshit I agree, really liked the Sparq beam
>>343122795
They might be bringing weapon upgrades like from SS2, but also since Polygon has no idea how to play videogames he missed a ton of shots, if you count how many times he actually hits he kills in 3 shots
>>343123040
>I've always been more accurate in shooters on a controller
That's because you're a fucking pleb. Kill yourself.
>>343123473
Fuck off.
I prefer to use a keyboard in general, but controllers are infinitely more comfy for shooters.
>literally crashed 15 minutes in
My GPU's fan is probably fucked. 80°C isn't fine, is it?
>kickstarter backers can pay to be in the game
Not even worth playing desu
I refuse to give money to anyone who does this garbage
I'm ok with everything but the soundtrack, it sounds really out of place and more suited to Amnesia or even Dead Space
The remix track is also just as questionable, sounds like shitty club music
>>343123591
>controllers are infinitely more comfy for shooters
>>343123591
You've grown too accustomed to modern day auto aiming for consoles.
No, you might feel like its better, but your aim is dogshit compared to someone else who can use a mouse on PC.
>>343123597
>Oh no, they reward their backers with cool things
So? What's wrong with that?
If you pay a handsome sum of money like €5'000-€10'000 you absolutely deserve some mention in the game.
>>343123591
>le comfy meme
>>343123730
>>343123748
No, I mean in terms of handling. For anything else I'd rather a keyboard, but for shooting in any game a controller is the preferable option for me.
Same for games like GTA.
>>343123760
Because I don't want to be playing a game and see Fuckface Smackitydoo or his shitty OC Donut Steel self insert pop up because he handed the kickstarter money
>>343116792
>This hack is part of the team
I give up, all my hopes are with Spector now.
Fuck this gay earth
>>343123597
yeah, they get to be dead or killed by you. 20 people also get to make their own shitty death log that Chris will edit to shit after PoE and will probably just end up making fun of the backers through dark humor and irony.
>supports VR
Sounds cool, but VR would probably give me a headache and make me feel sick, so I'll pass on that.
>>343123596
On the other hand, it's Nvidia and Google results say 60° isn't all that bad.
Drives go over 50, though. I don't like this.
>>343124036
>hehe it'll be so ironic le succ
Fuck off
>>343123689
Yeah, it sounds like garbage. Why couldn't they just leave the original's music as is? It might sound a bit outdated, but fuck it.
>>343123907
lulz
My biggest concern is the music... I know they said they'd be doing the original soundtrack as a stretch goal, but are they just remastering it and releasing it, or will it actually be included in the game? The techno-Cyberpunk music in SS was a massive part in defining the atmosphere. I hope they don't forgo that for a generic sci-fi dark ambient track, even if it's done well.
>>343116792
That guy is a fucking idiot. We will end up with transgender robots and a feminazi SHODAN.
>>343123945
Stop complaining, will you?
Christ, it'll be one guy in the game or one enemy type.
>>343124123
did you also miss the part where they said they would edit it and so it doesn't turn into another pillars
>>343124359
I'm not familiar with that guy... who is he?
>>343124396
I don't care, I think it's a fundamentally disgusting choice and I refuse to support it.
I can always just play the original instead anyway instead of needing someone to repaint it and streamline it into a homogenized acceptably modern game.
>>343124351
They're adding their own and remixing the original one. The intro music remix sounds like absolute garbage.
https://soundcloud.com/nightdivestudios/system-shock-soundtrack-zircon-jonathan-peros-ethical-constraints-removed-ss-intro-remix
>>343124464
look up his page on ED
>>343121223
>>343121573
The original has a consistent aesthetic. This one just looks awkward because the level geometry doesn't fit the art style.
Maybe Routine will come out one of these years
>>343123857
what the fuck is with the arm animation?
>>343124991
it's a gorilla
>>343124563
>The intro music remix sounds like absolute garbage.
>https://soundcloud.com/nightdivestudios/system-shock-soundtrack-zircon-jonathan-peros-ethical-constraints-removed-ss-intro-remix
Go back to the your synth heavy Monstercat trash. That remix sounds good.
>>343125124
but gorrilas don't do that same thing when moving backwards or to the side.
>>343125447
moon base scientist gorillas do
>>343115087
>A big budget AAA game looks better than a Kackstarter Indie game
Whoa really?
>>343125216
>that remix sounds good
Yeah, if you're deaf.
>>343124563
I actually don't think it's too bad... sounds like what I would have expected the creators to make if they had access to modern tools. It's also nice that they added the little voices blips, added a lot of great ambience to the music. If they are all done like this, it might not be a failure
>>343125970
Why didn't they just leave it the way it was? It was fine.
>Mutants whisper 'they see you'
Wrong game!
>>343126470
Maybe they have control of their own minds too like hybrids but can't do anything to stop themselves? I don't know.
>>343112669
Do you realize how jarring it would be to have low quality sound from the early 90s in a game with modern graphics? I'd be happy if they include an original audio option like Rise of the Triad but you're fucking retarded if you think most people would be ok with that being the only audio.
>>343125970
>sounds like what I would have expected the creators to make if they had access to modern tool
They did have access to modern tools. Greg LoPiccolo was the leader of the band Tribe, of which Terri Brosius also comes from, and they did several remixes of the actual music from the game for the CD version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV6EtVTPiZA This version of the intro was actually used instead of a MIDI track for the intro on the CD version of the original System Shock back in 1994 and it was done in the studio like a track on an album not constrained by DOS.
>>343124579
My god... this is going to be insane
>>343124359
Shodan was originally male anyway.
>>343112669
>The user interface, game mechanics, enemies, and puzzles will be updated to reflect modern aesthetics and sensibilities
Only worrying thing.
>>343126470
Wow, the latest Mirror's Edge looks quite realistic
>>343126370
Maybe they didn't want to feel like copying it? I don't know, seems people who remake this type of shit feel the need to redo everything. Dissapointing, but I'm just happy it didn't turn out worse
>>343126758
That sounds fantastic... it really makes the new one pale a little... maybe someone will mod the original soundtrack into the game at some point? That'd be cool
>no leaning
>no prone
>no stealth at all
>no weapon power settings
>probably a lot more shit got cut
It's sad that people really think that games feel aged if they haven't had all depth sucked out of them.
They use a quote from Warren Spector on the kickstarter page:
"I've long said that if you updated the graphics, sound and UI on System Shock you'd have something that competes directly with any game on the market today."
Unfortunately they don't seem to understand what he's saying and are spitting right in his face by changing the gameplay so drastically.
Demo was great and you're all complaining about a game that won't be released for over a year.
Jesus fucking christ the autism in this thread is unfathomable. I bet most of you weren't even alive when System Shock came out.
>>343127715
But there is leaning and power settings
You didn't even play it did you
>no stealth at all
Did the original even have stealth? I remember it was a pretty blazing run and gun game
>>343127750
OP here.
I certainly wasn't alive when it came out, but I really love the original and don't want to see it fucked with too hard.
Anyone know where the config file for the demo is? I want to see how I can edit it.
>>343127919
>Did the original even have stealth? I remember it was a pretty blazing run and gun game
Yes, but it's rough with basically no feedback to work with like you'd get in a proper stealth game. But leaning around corners, crouching, and lying down do make it harder for enemies to see you and you can pass by when their back is turned.
>>343112669
the only thing i hate about this is
>unity
that being said unity isnt a bad engine.
people just dont know how to use it.
which seems to be the case with the demo too.
this really didnt make a good impression.
not to mention the music is nonexistant its all just ambient noise.
system shocks music was excellent and a huge part of the atmosphere and perception of the world.
>>343129556
I don't think the music even exists yet for this game.
>>343112669
>they're changing things in a remake
Oh man, what a surprise.
You can still play the original, you fucking retard.
>>343124563
that doesnt sound bad.
zircon does some great work.
they could have definitely done worse.
>>343113091
That's cause it runs at like 3000 fps in the opening screen, seriously. You can force v-sync in your video drivers to fix.
why did it have to be fucking unity?
god damn it.
I kinda hate that the remixing for the original OST is at such a high stretch goal, what the fuck man.
I tried rushing through the demo and fell through the floor.
That was interesting.
>>343119358
anisotropic filtering has nothing to do with the actual texture filtering.
>>343117036
>Why the fuck do you need to remix the original's one?
Because the original sounds dated. It being remixed doesn't necessarily mean that they're turning the tracks into dance tracks or anything like remixes are cliche thought of. They're most likely updating dated synths, dated drum machines and what not.
Uhh did I miss something?
Dunno what to do now
>>343119167
I could jump off ladders, I don't know what the fuck the other guys are trying to tell you.
>>343116792
>maxofs2d
well i lost all hope
Never played System Shock before, but I liked the demo a lot. Felt very Bioshock (obviously I know this is its predecessor). Does the Enhanced Edition feel close to this in terms of gameplay or is it too dated?
>remastered game
>Isnt actually the same game. Just based loosely on original
Why is this allowed?
>>343124563
what the fuck this is so bland
its not memorable
>>343122795
You have to remember that you can also adjust the power of the sparq beam, by default when you pick it up it's set to medium, and then there's high, overdrive, and back down to low and then to medium again.
>>343133897
>Does the Enhanced Edition feel close to this in terms of gameplay or is it too dated?
it's the MUCH better game
>>343134006
Because nobody wants to push back against it. Everyone's become complacent.
>>343116792
holy fuck this is going to be great to watch this trainwreck.
>>343135448
But does it play similarly? I liked this demo and do not have nostalgia from playing the original biasing me. If it's different, I'm not interested and will just wait for this remaster.
>>343114746
It was revolutionary when it came out, but even then heavily flawed. Even more so in today's standards. Besides, no matter what they do with the remake, your beloved game will still remain untouched.
>>343136024
It's not very similar, in my opinion, no.
This demo didn't even introduce the multiple ammunition types and all that other stuff.
>>343133564
Is this suppose to be some sort of joke?
Anyone else find the original system shock gives them headaches? Like something todo with the fov or something makes it unbearable to me.
>>343112669
>>343112669
Why would you nostalgia fags keep falling for these shitty crowdfunded remakes or spiritual successor shit ?
Bioshock = Ooooo Spiritual successor to SS
Bodycount = Ooooo Spiritual successor to Black
MN09 = Ooooo Spiritual successor to rockman
Game A release brazillian years ago and it wasn't that good to begin with = Ooooo Spiritual successor
I hope this trend dies soon, we've been recycling the old stuff for the newbabies generation because they never experienced it ?
This is retarded.
>>343133897
>Does the Enhanced Edition feel close to this in terms of gameplay or is it too dated?
It might as well be a completely different game in terms of mechanics.
>>343116792
i like the direction, it looks cool and i like the way the game feels so far, it'll probably be cool
>>343136739
>Rockman
Fuck off, weeb.
>>343136142
>>343136783
That's unfortunate. What about 2?
>>343137032
2 is a completely different game.it's also shit
>>343136840
>weeb
Where i'm from, its called rockman for the last 2 decades.
Megaman is to pander fucking western autists who prefer edgy names like Mega, ultra or edgelordkiller999.
Question:
Is unity supposed to be a shitty engine for students to use or does it actually have potential? I wouldn't know since all unity games I've played are shitly optimized, stuttery, and make my computer scream.
Is it just a case of bad programming or what
>>343112669
>and puzzles will be updated to reflect modern aesthetics and sensibilities
My sides
So more of Infinite's HOW MANY DONGS?
>>343137154
Fuck off, nip.
>>343137154
>Rockman
>he throws rocks
great idea
>>343119256
I know, man. It was optimized as fuck and ran like butter.
>>343137269
Engine limitation and nearly zero partnership with hardware designers.
If say like nvidia or amd dumps a bunch of money for them to toy around it might be gud, else stay pleb.
If the two turk scum from crytek didnt get funded by nvidia, we wouldn't have cryengine today in top tier "can it run crysis".
>>343137269
Well they got the guy who helped make frostbite and said unity will be competing with them graphically by next year.
>>343137130
>System Shock 2 is shit
>>343137394
Again you proved my point. lel.
>>343137269
My guess is that it is a case of bad programming.
Programmer friend of mine once explained me something about Minecraft and how shitty it ran even on modern hardware, which is due to it being programmed in Java and the amount of memory it consumed over time... or something like that.
>>343137302
うるさい
>unity
>the windows movie maker of game engines
Welp, at least I didn't have to wait to be disappointed.
>>343112669
It looks pretty good. I love how they're further fleshing out the John Carpenter future feeling to the game
>>343120528
>misses like eighteen out of twenty shots against that slow moving orange jumpsuit enemy that walks in a straight line
Consoles, not even once.
>>343138162
>ConsolesHe's playing on PC.
>can't half-crouch or go prone
>can't even fucking lean forward
This isn't System Shock
>>343138162
the demo isn't available on consoles
>>343137154
>Where i'm from, its called rockman for the last 2 decades.
Same here. Megaman sounds dumb but I was not too surprised when I heard it because they make things look dumb in the west on purpose.
>>343139017
>leaning forward
>>343137671
what point
all i said is that rockman doesn't even make sense
megaman is a much more ambiguous name that fits more since he can absorb abilities
>>343112669
>modern aesthetics and sensibilities
Can you still adjust the power output on your phaser?
>>343139131
Yes.
Oh great, a ss reboot thread, can't wait to read all the witty apathetic bitterness ITT
>>343116792
Played the demo, it looks great.
>>343136024
I played the original for the first time a couple of years ago. It plays better.
>>343136705
The player character in the original has a bit of an odd physics model. Your head gets knocked around in subtle but nauseating ways.
>>343139271
Yes. Low, medium, high, overcharge. Damage is 6, 20, 36 and 60 respectively. I forgot the V usage but it's something like 2V, 2V, 8V, 20V?
>>343112669
System Shock fanbase is what? 10k at best? Maybe 50k even played these games?
This is all a good thing. Maybe this time millions will play the game.
>>343139182
Rockman isn't a particularly brilliant name but Megaman outright sounds like a faggot, even if you try to force a "sense" onto it.
It's even more ridiculous when in MML everyone actually calls him Megaman. In DASH they just call him Rock.
>>343126885
She was referred as "she", "he" and "it" in SS1, so she wasgenderfluidbefore it became a mental illness.
>>343133564
Go to sparkly panel on the left and solve a switch puzzle
>>343139089
>>343140801
mein jive brother.
>>343139182
>what point
Nigga u dumb.
Btw is it summer finally there at ur place ? cuz its always summer here that i've grown out of it 15 years ago.
>>343133564
Alsoopen storage with orange led on the door with a keycard that's on corpse in the right room
>>343134006
It's not remastered, they call it a reboot now (which it in fact was from the very beginning)
>>343140419
Original sold 170,000 copies, but I'd reckon most of those people are dead or too jaded to back this kickstarter.
Shock2 fans, on the other hand...
>>343116792
That sounds weird but I'll give it a chance
It sounds to me like 900k will get us a survival horror game and 1.7mil will get us the RPG we actually want.
I hate doing this but this might be a case of "I'll hold off on supporting it until the end" just to see how the game's doing
I really liked the bit in the beginning where you plug a bunch of chips into your implants to get all the hud elements. It was a nice little touch.
>>343136705
yes, i had a few headaches from prolonged play
>>343122635
When the game told me to do that, I just said fuck it and looked up the code.
It's an interesting idea, but who actually wants to go through all that shit?
>will be updated to reflect modern aesthetics and sensibilities
>modern sensibilities
why does this worry me
>maxof2sd
>>343119426
If saying yes means a potentially better final product, then yes, please do it.
>>343116792
But I like the way it looks.
I probably would've backed this if the whole Inafune business didn't happen
>>343141680
See my point wasn't even too far off then. Under 200k played the game yet it's amazing how I even know about it. I bet the fans just over hyped the shit.
It makes complete sense that they would change the game this much. It actually looks fun this time.
>>343142274
Bioshock Infinite.
>remove interactions with characters in world
:simplify plot to black-light grey morality
>cut out wide open battles and sell as dlc
If Levine's name appears any time during this Kickstarter, it's dead.
>>343114746
So what you're saying is you want the developers to be lazy as fuck and make an exact copy of the original but with 3D graphics and then pay extra for it even though it's literally the exact same game?
Fuck off cancer.
>>343142728
So far he hasn't been seen or mentioned once.
>>343118853
lel same exact thing happened to me.
>>343123591
>>343120903
>How does it look like shit? What looks bad about it?
Not made by Nintendo so /v/ hate it.
>>343116792
Eh, I still have hope. What's his actual job on the team? Does he play a big role in it or is he in just a fucking nobody position?
If he's a key part of the development team then fuck that noise.
I want to remind all butthurt purists ITT
1. No one is taking the original game away from you.
2. You will get Citadel, which is a faithful SS1 remake. NightDive CEO gave it his OK as long as author won't try to sell it. You will also probably get it earlier than we get the reboot.
>>343143587
>You will also probably get it earlier than we get the reboot.
Now that it's open sourced, yeah probably.
>>343139089
You want to start shit?
>>343143587
>You will get Citadel, which is a faithful SS1 remake. NightDive CEO gave it his OK as long as author won't try to sell it. You will also probably get it earlier than we get the reboot.
Do you know how many years it's just been a map viewer?
>>343143946
yes, i understand your apathy, but guy makes progress and it's open source as other anon mentioned, i say it has a solid chance to see the light of day in a year or so.
>>343142603
Why let a few bad eggs taint Kickstarter for you?
It's how we got Shovel Knight.
>>343112669
I watched the gameplay, is it true that the mutants aren't stunned on hit?
>>343144231
Yes, it's time to flip tables and scream it's ruined.\
Or just wait until it's released and see if it was addressed.
>>343125447
Woah sorry, didn't know we had the fucking authority on gorrilas over here.
>>343144374
People really are treating this as if it were a demo for a finished game for some reason.
It's more of a proof of concept than anything.
SO
MUCH
BLOOM
>>343144457
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>#steam_welcomemessage_nofriends
What did he mean by this?
>>343144646
in this case that's the sparq, it's not like the normal lighting is that bad
>>343123591
>>343144665
haha hilarious meme my friend, never heard this one before
where did you find it? :)
should i back it? ive never been burned on a kickstarter but it seems like people get burned a lot these days on this kind of stuff
>>343137639
I wouldn't say it's shit but it's got some pretty deep flaws. Most of the weapons are garbage with the only ones worth using being the energy rapier, pistol, shotgun, assault rifle, and grenade launcher. Basically 2/3rds of heavy weapons and energy weapons are utter jokes and the exotic weapons are a complete waste of points.Hacking feels dull and inspired compared to the original System Shock. Research literally boils down to "back track to earlier level, grab necessary chemicals for research, wait). Also the Rickenbacker really fucking sucked.
>>343145224
If you like system shock games than yes, you should back it. I say it because i did too and i need it to be funded.
>>343112669
Wait, did people expect the exact same game? Why would you even want the same game again?
I mean, shit. I wish they'd changed a bunch of shit for Halo Anniversary. Put enemies in different spots, add in weapons, maybe expand the maps and shit. I'd been playing Combat Evolved for a decade when it came out, and it's just a visual update. SPV3 is more along the lines of what they could have done with it.
It's the same for all remakes, though. At least take the chance to do something different with the game if you're going to remake it.
>>343115259
>player expectations have changed?
That's the biggest reason why things shouldn't be touched. Besides, why the fuck would you buy a remake if not to play the actual game.
>>343116338
Neato. Hope it doesn't run like total ass. I can only expect so much on PS4 hardware, but devs have stopped optimizing past the bare minimum on all systems. It gets a little ridiculous.
Actually if anything ruined System Shock 1 and 2 it was going full retard with the initial music
Playing both games with the music off is generally better
>>343145314
>not enjoying backtracking in ss2
I fucking love the game for not sealing doors behind my back as 90% of other fps games do. You can even block the door so the tutorial area on von braun stays accessible after decompression.
>>343145936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbB1HkdNMlg
If you don't think this is the tightest shit, then get out of my face.
>>343145314
The most broken build in the game uses the Crystal Shard though, so I wouldn't say that exotic weapons are completely useless.
>>343146223
It was pretty silly to have that in the game though
It was supposed to be a pretty atmospheric experience, not go into the cargo bays with your new assault rifle and kill everything
I just started playing the Enhanced Edition tonight after finishing the demo for that remake and I don't see what all the nostalgiafags are bitching about. It's really fucking faithful yet improved in every way. This shit is archaic as fuck and the music is retarded. The new game has literally the same level design, same sort of combat and inventory system but smoothed out and with pretty graphics. Literally no problem here.
>>343145510
It's like Tomb Raider: Anniversary vs the original
>>343144665
What did you expect from blizz, dude? They're with actvision, they do everything the cheapest as possible.
>>343113091
I thought when you said "my fans" you meant like a youtube audience or something. Then I realized you meant your case/cpu/gpu fans and I calmed down.
I hate myself for thinking the former though.
>>343146382
I liked how System Shock 2 started with you feeling pathetic and picking up every little scrap you could find, then over time you become almost untouchable. So it fits to have a song like this late into the game.
>>343144793
>nofriends
>help
I have no idea.
>>343120528
It looks like he is playing a bootleg Deus Ex.
At least SS3 is a different team, plus they got Warren Spector in on it.
unzip your wallet, i-insect, i know you want it
>have dual monitors
>game default starts up on my secondary monitor
Turned it off right there. I'm never helping these hack frauds make such subpar games.
>>343147117
I'll unzip more than that for SHODAN.
I haven't played either System Shock games. Are they any good? Do you need to play the first one? They're on sale on Steam for cheap so I was thinking about getting them. Friend really wants me to play System Shock 2 since I like horror and sci fi games.
>>343115259
just player expectations
ss1 was way ahead of it's time and even does some things better than modern games
>>343147143
>urethra implant is not among stretch goals
fucking dropped, i will never support these hack frauds
>>343147432
Never played SS1, but SS2 is a fantastic game and works as a standalone.
>>343147432
Never played either myself, literally started System Shock 1 Enhanced Edition a little bit ago, it's not too bad. Pretty clunky, but not bad once you understand the controls. I have a feeling the second one is a lot better and has aged better though.
>>343147432
>Are they any good?
Yes
>Do you need to play the first one?
No
