CIVILIZATION VI - First Look: England
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkIT6iMeYjE
I was hoping the leader was going to be Henry the Eight or something but at least it's not Elizabeth again.
>butt chin
why
I just keep despising this artstyle more and more.
>>343105302
Well, at least they went with skinny Victoria instead of fat Victoria
if they were going to go for the pixar look, just fucking go for it
but nope now we're stuck with a mess of aesthetics
Why are they making her the leader of ENGLAND rather than a Great Britain civ? Scotland civ confirmed?
WOULD YOU LIKE A TRADE AGREEMENT WITH ENGLAND?
>>343106465
No.
>>343106018
Celts will turn up in an expansion, probably.
>MUH STRONK WYMYN GRRRRRRRL PWR ANITA IS MY GOD
Fucking hell, Firaxis, and I thought Beyond Earth was bad.
>england
>expansionist
wut
If anything, if they had to go that way, they should've had some special vassal mechanism instead of just flat out spamming cities.
>>343106782
this is bait do not respond seriously
>>343104702
>Victoria
fucking meh
>>343105305
This. The actual gameplay looks pretty good and I usually say that gameplay is the most important thing but this is too much for me. I mean civ is the kind of game you spend 100+ hours on and I would have problems looking at it for an hour.
>>343104702
why the fuck are they making the whole game look cartoony, jesus christ.
>>343106782
Not theiir fault there isn't a single English leader worth a fucking damn.
>>343106862
>oh shit he called it out for what it is, RUN DAMAGE CONTROL
>>343107058
>actually defending this
Jesus Christ.
>>343106782
>feminism
>literally Victorian England
Fucking implying
>>343107058
Cromwell was pretty based, though the irish might get a wee bit pissy if he got the spotlight.
>>343107016
Oh so that's what that motto means.
>>343107292
He's just attempting to derail the thread into bitching about SJW pandering
>"England" civilisation
>"British Museum"
>Redcoats
>Leader ruled the United Kingdom
holy fuck i'd have expected firaxis to know the difference between England the Britain. What a bunch of fuckwits.
>>343107058
*male English leader
Excuse my unconscious muhsogyny.
>>343107009
I'm glad Civ has such a great modding community which will probably sort it out quickly.
Looks like a fucking facebook game. It was already bad enough with Civ 5. What's next after this? Civ: The Movie?
>>343105305
It's like they designed it with not being appealing target for SFM porn as the primary goal.
>>343107318
>cromwell
>based
u wot
>>343107719
Modders spend most of their time on the gameplay aspect though.
>UK Civ
>able to trade
ONE JOB FIRAXIS
>>343107776
>implying I wouldn't love to fuck the fuck of Cleopatra
Why did they remove this mofo in Civ V? Will he be back?
>>343107887
Yeah, but considering the almost universal vitriol for the art style I'm expecting lots of mods for graphics.
>>343105305
I'm ok with it for Teddy Roosevelt. Political cartoons drew him goofy like that all the time back then. It just isn't fitting for the others.
>>343107763
The fuck is wrong with V? It's even less cartoony than IV.
>>343106018
Because England as some kind of distinct entity has been a thing for much longer (the rulers might have changed from Romans to Anglo-Saxons to Normans but there is some continuity to its existence for at least 9th century and if you include Roman times during which Roman Britain that had roughly the same borders as modern-day England and various Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms that ultimately were unified into Kingdom of England with roughly the modern-day borders, longer than that). Conversely, United Kingdom including Scotland has only been around for just about 300 years and ignoring colonies they once had, England has always been the dominant presence in the union.
Similar line of thinking applies to most civs. For example, Germany as a nation-state is only 200 years old but the civ represents people that lived in the area from since Antiquity (for example, in Civ V the UA refers to Teutoni tribe from Roman times, first UU is from 15th century, second UU is from WW2 and the UB is 13th-17th century thing) as opposed to Germany as it exists today.
>>343107763
>Civ: The Movie
>Cleopatra betrays Caesar and has sex with Ghandi then they proceed to exterminate native americans
>>343107016
>Step a single foot on Australia, then GTFO because you realize how barren and worthless it is.
LOL ITS ALL OURS NOW GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
>>343108043
No Hitler, no Stalin, simple as that.
>that finishing move the redcoat does
I hope there's more shit like that. Combat would actually be fun to watch for a change.
>>343107776
If they reuse the models for the free eduCIV game that might be a valid concern.
>>343108163
Why so jelly, Shitaly?
>>343107763
>Looks like a fucking facebook game.
Why does everyone say this? I genuonely don't understand it, do you guys play a lot of facebook games? I've never played one so I wouldn't know, but to me it just looks like the goofy graphics people used to do in a lot of games where they used style to make up for a lack of fidelity.
>>343105218
>literally the greatest female leader ever existed
>hurr muh variety
M E H
will there be a better waifu than Catherine? I doubt it
>>343108185
But why ;_;
>englel
>>343108421
It's pretty obvious they're trying to cater to the mobile community.
>>343108094
At least germania has been inhabited by (mostly) the same people through history, you cant seriously say that the Romano-Celts, the Anglo-Saxons/Anglo-Normans are the same thing.
>>343104702
flat chested boar
>>343108568
no genocidal mass murderers allowed.
>redcoats are stronger when you're a conqueror
Give me a reason to not be England in VI all the time.
>>343107535
>England the Britain
Um wut?
They're just keeping their options open in case they want the Scotts to show up. Britain is a geographic thing, it just so happens our famous museum is named for it.
>>343108568
1) they're meme leaders
2) virgin american eyes would be offended by them
3) super mario is owned by Nintendo
>>343108681
I hope they will give redcoats a hidden vulnerability against shitskin zulus.
>all this tundra
>not just rerolling
the fuck
>>343104702
>Young queen Vicky
Fuck yeah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGZinTeodc
>>343108791
But the British won. And took only a third as many casualties as the Zulu.
>Victoria leads the English Civ
>The British Empire
FUCK THIS MEME
>>343108681
Because
>melee units
>>343108814
Is that the Zulu color scheme that I'm seeing in the minimap?
>The English special building is the British museum
Fucking kill me
>>343108928
Considering the technology gap they shouldn't have had any casualty at all.
>>343109026
They also mentioned a special lighthouse, does this mean each civ now gets three special units/buildings?
>>343109026
British museum's an ability, not a building.
Their unique infrastructure is a seaport district.
>>343106782
Fuck off, lad.
Im actually really liking the new artstyle. I hope the game will be good. I want to have comfy times with a good civ game again.
More waifu leaders please.
>>343109184
Each civ gets two unique abilities, one unique unit, and one unique building/infrastructure/district.
One unique ability represents the whole nation's history, one unique ability represents the leader's history. The leader unique ability can manifest as another unique unit/building (like Teddy's Rough Rider is a part of his Unique Ability)
>>343104702
>No WE WUZ leader
Good.
>>343109051
I don't think you understand how technology gaps historically worked.
Before WW1, a technologically inferior army could fight back well, even possibly win, against a vastly technologically superior one, as long as they had numbers and tactics on their side.
WW1 changed that and suddenly numbers and tactics literally didn't matter anymore. A modern WW1 army will beat any army from earlier, every time. The US Army from WW2 will beat the US Army from WW1, every time. The US Army from the Vietnam War will beat the US Army from WW2, every time. Technically changed things too much in 1914, but before that it was actually possible for spear chuckers to beat people with maxim guns.
>>343109259
fug my listening skills let me down once again
>>343109394
lol just shot at them
>>343104702
Damn shes ugly. Hope they add Dido, shes the best waifu. Wouldn't mind that prostitute as well, nice eye candy.
I wish we could get a separate England, Scotland, and Great Britain. They all have different identities. England could have Longbows, for one thing.
>>343109496
You forget that back then most guns had the long range accuracy of a videogame shotgun
I hope the English culture victory is initiated via the "Brexit" reform
>>343109531
That thumbnail promised me thicc, and I was disappointed.
>>343109587
I know you're meming, but the game is too far in development to include something that was proposed very recently.
>>343109531
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>>343107776
I don't know about you but I think Cleo andHojoare pretty sexy.
>>343109663
Who?
>>343109531
hiro pls wth
>>343109587
>brexit
>victory
The damage has already done. The brits already look for the nearest Kebab shops when going on a lunchbreak.
>>343109531
The fuck is going on here. The thumbnail doesn't match the image when you click it.
>>343108719
*And, derp.
I still think it's bullshit though. In previous Civ games they had it right. The English were purely English, they were never referenced as the UK/Britain. Their choice of leader most certainly doesn't help. Their leader ruled over the United Kingdom, not England.
At least in some respects it makes sense. As >>343108076 said, TR was drawn like that ALL the time by newspapers of the time. Cleopatra despite being so beautiful to the Romans was apparently fuck-ugly by modern standards. Victoria isn't great, but she looks like Victoria.
I know they're adding some new civs but is there any speculation on which ones?
>>343104702
That looks fucking awful
I used to make jokes that the next Civ will be on mobiles but now it isn't a joke anymore
>>343110086
>Victoria isn't great, but she looks like Victoria.
Why does she have the butt-chin, though? Where is she depicted with a butt-chin?
Instead of shoehorning one leader they should give you the Option of Two.
England:
Victoria I
Henry VIII
US:
Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Etc etc
>>343110225
True, they did give her a cleft chin for literally no reason.
>>343108987
Zulu are brown/white. England is red/white.
>>343110119
You know V was already on mobile, right?
>>343110243
Nah, keep TR. Like they said, they're going for leaders known for their personality.
Which is why the other American leader besides TR should be Jackson.
>>343104702
*JUSTS*
>>343110243
Zulu:
Shaka
?????
>>343110529
>not Grant
>was so shy that he holed himself up in his room crying when he had a panic attack at his daughter's wedding
>>343109531
HIROOOOOOOO
>>343109663
What the fuck is a moot.
>>343110225
>want to make an ISIS joke
>mfw all the major Islamic countries are already in the game
shieet
>>343104702
I removed the buttchin
Thoughts?
>>343110431
Not from release at least
Civ 6 seems to be designed for mobiles
>>343110578
Dingane.
>>343110734
That's tolerable, undeniably an improvement.
>>343110734
That just made it apparent that she has no tits
It could be as ugly as they want if it ACTUALLY IS FUCKING OPTIMIZED.
This shit was fucking unacceptable in V. I should not have to sit for 4 minutes on the load screen for the game to fully boot up.
>>343110578
Call it South Africa and have it Shaka and Mandela
>>343110734
She looks like a Frozen character, but otherwise it's fine.
>>343110243
I really wish they'd stop inserting 'counties' like India or Persia instead of the different civilizations that exist in those places. Persia shouldn't be all lumped under the Achaemenids, India shouldn't be lumped under Ghandi, the Egyptians shouldn't be lumped under Cleopatra, etc. Different leaders would be a good way around that.
Pretty disappointed with the "art direction" tbqh. I fucking loved Civ V but Civ 6 is what Civ V should've looked like and vice versa.
>>343110734
She didn't even have it irl, why did they have to make her even uglier.
>>343108163
It's not like anyone else was going to claim any other part of that shithole
>>343111040
>India shouldn't be lumped under Ghandi
it's fine if they used units that were actually from modern india instead of elephants.
>>343110734
Looks like a mix between the Frozen girl and Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite.
Her chin is still big as fuck tho.
>>343111061
bongs are naturally ugly.
>>343110921
Parsing 10,000 files of plain text and lua scripts does take a while
>>343110578
Dark Shaka
>>343109378
Since TSL mods were so popular in Civ 5 they said Civ 6's roster would be made with those in mind (i.e.: not having Europe be cluttered as fuck).
More South American and African civs are pretty much confirmed.
>>343111040
wow, you're retarded.
>>343111156
4 minutes is a long fucking time dude when all you have is a loading screen.
>>343108094
>ignoring colonies they once had, England has always been the dominant presence in the union
Which colony superseded England's dominant presence within the Union?
>>343111040
This is game where Ghandi can nuke bomb his way to world domination, Isabella can found Islam in the holy city of Madrid and Shaka can win Culture victory with the sheer force of djembes, history fidelity should be the last of your concerns.
>>343111239
source?
faggot
>>343111110
India's unique unit should be Mysorean rockets.
>>343107016
>south africa, new york and australia stolen from the dutch
>DUDE EMPIRE :v))))
eternal anglo
>>343108076
>tfw I have an entire folder of Teddy political cartoons
>>343111178
when the walls fell
>>343111469
Seriously, if nothing his silly look in VI is accurate
>>343111469
Dump.
>>343111152
Elizabeth had that redhead charm some people like.
>>343111534
Timber, his arms wide
>>343111662
She also put tons of clown makeup on her face because she was covered in scars.
>>343104702
>ball chin
>>343107805
>created modern political system
>purged the irish
>not based
>>343111743
Scars are hot. Also the fuck is wrong with captchas, how am I supposed to shitpost if I have to spend three hours typing gibberish each time.
>>343111298
Civ 5 could be loaded in less than a second
But they way they are doing it is basically like recompiling the whole game every time you run it
It's just a bad design that cannot be fast
>>343111309
India had way more population. Without colonies, United Kingdom is England, pretty much, because vast majority of population is English.
>>343111572
I don't have time to wait for the post timer of 50 images * 60 seconds, so here's an album
http://imgur.com/a/RJ1iw
>>343106465
>>343106576
>>343112045
Yes, which is poor optimization.
>>343112041
>Scars are hot.
Yeah to an extent. Pic related is what she looked like under the makeup. Smallpox is a bitch.
>>343108076
Teddy Roosevelt looks more like Taft in this game, someone Teddy always made fun of for being fat.
>>343112021
>let in the jews who kept away for more than 3 centuries
he fucked up
FUCKING WHEN
>>343106576
/pol/ has kindly asked me to tell mods to REMOVE THIS
>>343112161
Except the part where the pound bounced back
Get fucked Globalists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woaS1b_seEM
>>343112164
>mfw googling smallpox
well w/e it's not like I wanted to sleep tonight
>>343106782
You're trying too hard anon
>>343112318
>>343112189
Teddy himself WAS overweight though, but it's hard to notice when you're standing next to a man so fat he once got stuck in his bathtub.
Of course Taft was also considered one of our better presidents, an excellent head of the senate, and one of the best Chief Justices of the Supreme Court (the only person to hold all 3 positions) in US history. But no one remembers that, they remember how fat he was.
>>343112142
>baby Roosevelt
Old time cartoons were GOAT.
>>343112205
hope you realize the entire american economy is founded on jews and they're pretty much the only ones keeping it from being crashed by the hillbillies that make up 4/5 of your country
Who else are you hoping will show up in Civ 6 /v/?
Rulers of Civilizations or Civilizations as a whole
Who do you want in?
>>343110042
>Their leader ruled over the United Kingdom, not England.There's a difference?
>>343112409
>>343112318
>There will never be a moment in your life that will make you THIS fucking smug
Can you even imagine the fucking smirk that was on his face walking into that chamber this morning?
I want to feel that feeling he must have felt. It must have been fucking amazing.
>>343112189
>>343112441
>>343112536
>5'11'', pretty tall for the time
>340 pounds
How was he able to stand up?
>>343112662
Scotland and Wales have a message for you.Get fucked.
>>343112620
>hope you realize the entire american economy is founded on jews
What exactly do you think an economy is that would make you say something so ridiculous? Is that a roundabout way of saying the kikes at the fed are fucking everything up because you're almost on point if so.
>>343112779
Will they send the messages through London?
>>343112704
THROUGH SHEER FORCE OF WILL
Because medical science can't explain it.
what's your favorite period of history for strategy games?
i likewhen the UK existed
>>343112821
They're all in those places where economy meets power.
>>343112704
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/09/28/a-history-of-fat-presidents/#5d0a32c93631
I'm proud of my country, that such an article exists
>>343112850
Only messages they'll send to London are declarations of independence ;^)
>>343112691
The same face you will do once you will be deliverated from the oligarchy.never ever
>>343107535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum
The British Museum is the name of an actual building in England you fucking retard
>>343112620
found the kike.
>>343113002
1800s>Ancient World>1700s
>>343113018
Well yes that's how they work. Here's some reading on how they got their teeth in the English if you care.
the english revolution by trevelyan
history of the bank of england by andreades
menasseh ben israels mission to cromwell by menasseh ben israel
pawns in the game by carr
>>343112318
Why lie something you can literally google Anon? I understand the whole brexit is backed by empty promises, but at least use something harder to prove
See it yourselves, this guy is full of shit
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=GBP&view=1M
>>343113042What am I gonna do with those, shouldn't you send them to England?
>>343104702
Was it really appropriate to dress like that in her time? With the entire torso above the tit line exposed?
>>343113391They're not directed at you. Hence why they're going to London.
>>343113002
medieval times
just finished fucking up the scottish as norway in kingdoms: britannia
onto england we go, lads
Someone explain to me why fat fuck Roosevelt is the US president? Whats he famous for, San Juan hill? Their unique ability is founding fathers, yet their leader isn't one. Why isnt the leader Washington or Jefferson?
>>343113002
Renaissance. Coolest ships without having to deal with the cancer of airplanes.
>>343113460
It's something she actually wore.
Plus she's the queen, the fuck are they gonna do?
>>343113460
yeah
her face is already caricature-like
>>343113524
>the most boring overdone period
Feck Yu.
>>343113589
>>343113649
Ok thanks for clarity.
>>343113460
Fuck off Treehouse.
>>343113561
They said they're going for leaders known for their prsonality. Roosevelt is consistently considered one of America's most popular presidents. He was a loud bombastic man who could get us into wars through sheer emotional manipulation and calling the people who said otherwise pussies.
>>343113561
As someone has already said. With this one they are going for big personalities rather than historical contribution to play into their AI system a bit more.
>Their unique ability is founding fathers
That's the US as a whole, not just Roosevelt
>>343113561
It's just the US, no one gives a shit about them.
>>343104702
I may be mistaken, but is that crown befitting her? I could have sworn the English monarch crowns had a white rim and the little poofy velvet top under a cage.
>>343113668
existing games, nigger
give me a good total war set in warring states era china over every medieval setting game ever, any day
I don't give a shit if they have to make up units
>>343108185
You forgot Mao
>>343113561
>broke trusts
>regulated the railroads
>expanded the US Navy into the greatest maritime power in the world
>established national parks
>Panama Canal
>before all that he kicked Spanish ass in the war
Teddy Roosevelt was based as fuck. Educate yourself nigger.
I guess they wanted the leader to fit the play style they were going for. England's less of a mid game naval behemoth and more of a mid-late game imperialist/cultural civ.
Gameplay wise the game sounds really good but the art style is still difficult to warm to.
>>343113846
>no one gives a shit about them
>Roosevelt was the exact point in history when Europe started giving a shit about America and not consider them on the level of Belgium
>>343108814
>560 BC
>modern buildings
>a fucking railroad
>that horrible fucking art style
this game is going to be an absolute travesty
>>343111743
Weren't her teeth black from eating sweets and drinking hippocras by the gallons?
>>343113561
he had a big stick and he waved it at people
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RFx3Y8K.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>Not playing civ online.
>Wanting good waifus.
Stay pleb /v/Also yes, it's real and official.
I guess it's a valid strategy to go cartoonish and casual, when every other 4X flavor is trying to get more complex and serious.
I don't like it, but maybe my sister or little brother will.
>>343114068
It's clearly just done to exhibit everything for the demo. Calm down.
>>343113460
people back then knew upper chest/collar bone area was delicious
>>343112691
He's waited 17 years for this moment.
The sneering, the accusations, the plane, the abuse and then he went and won.
Surprised he didn't go full Pepe in Brussells today.
>>343113002
900 AD England
>>343113878
It does seem odd, it looks a bit like the Imperial State Crown but with all the fluff and jewels taken off. Strange.
>>343114132
dick pls no we dont play cancer remember
>>343114068
>modern buildings
those are industrial era, as is the railroad (which is a part of the tile)
stop screaming about how every game is going to be a failure
>>343114136
Civ has always been cartoonish. I don't get this criticism.
>>343114261
I refuse
>>343113935
>give me a good total war set in warring states era china over every medieval setting game ever, any day
http://store.steampowered.com/app/363150/
>>343114387
Its basically
>Muh hard edges and realism
>>343114132
>made to appeal to piss skin subhumans.
No thank you.
>>343114068
That's a mine cart not a rail road. Mine cart tracks exsisted for a ling as time.
>>343114046
>>343114068
>tfw I sometimes feel liek the only one who likes the art style
4 and 5 looks fucking awful, and they said it themselves, the way building works now it would have made the map look even more of a messy clusterfuck than it was in 5.
>>343113846
>It's just the US, no one gives a shit about them.
Yeah I bet the Spanish Empire didn't give a shit about Roosevelt when he slapped his dick across their faces.
>>343113561
BIG
THICK
STICK
>>343108814
God that map is hideous. I'm not feeling too positive about this game
>>343114018
He was in fairness, also a gigantic manchild. He saw war as a game, just a high stakes version of playing cowboys and indians. He belonged to a club (The Knights of Columbus) of middle-aged men that all treated war like it was football. He was considered a progressive of his time, but if you brought him into modern time he'd make Archie Bunker look like a liberal. The dude was REALLY into the whole "white man's burden" thing.
Describing TR as a "glory-seeking, heavily armed 9 year old" is not inaccurate. The man believed so much in the glory of war that he sent his own son to fight in WW1. When his son died, it broke him and he lost his will to live.
>>343114132
christ
>>343105302
it's weird
I can find a handful of pictures of her with the cleft chin, but most of them seemingly don't
oh well
>>343111152
They have the cutest lolis thoIn a none sexual meaning of the word you sickfucks
>>343108120
>gandhi nukes everyone
>>343112639
>Rulers of Civilizations or Civilizations as a whole
>Who do you want in?
Songhai, Mali, Kanem Bornu
>>343114450
>didn't enjoy any of the ones I played past 6
oh well
>>343114650
is she meeting a nazi?
>>343114608
better than civ 6
>>343114450
not exactly what I want
I want to play as the Qin
>>343114608
>>343114132
Holy shit, is this game good?
>>343114594
>but if you brought him into modern time he'd make Archie Bunker look like a liberal. The dude was REALLY into the whole "white man's burden" thing.
That's a liberal thing though.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/06/white-working-class-new-deal-racism-reagan-democrats/
I know you have this picture in your mind of conservatives being racists, but I can assure that's historical revisionism. Convenient historical revisionism, for the Democratic party.
>>343114650
>calls them "lolis"
>In a none sexual meaning of the word
What did he mean by that?
>>343104702
>that character design
Good lord.
>>343112639
Catherine for Russia
Napoleon for France
Gandhi for India
Alexander for Greece
>>343114874
jacobin is a good mag
>>343108421
>but to me it just looks like the goofy graphics people used to do in a lot of games where they used style to make up for a lack of fidelity
Same
It kinda reminds me of Warcraft 3 in a way. As far as color palette and shit goes anyways.
>>343114867
qin up, friend, you'll get your time
>England will never get Cromwell
>Germany will never get Hitler
>>343112318
>bounced back
This /pol/ disinfo is hilarious. The markets and pound dropped and /pol/ keeps pretending they didn't because they bounced back for a day then dropped a ton after.
>>343114874
conservatives ARE racists lol
>>343114874
You are putting words into my mouth and assuming my political stance. In reality I don't associate myself with politics whatsoever.
You're ignoring that white man's burden didn't come from anything political. It came from people twisting Darwin's notes on adaptation to create the idea of white genetic superiority, and then was used as a justification for western imperialism. Much like how people didn't use the bible as a justification for slavery until after the triangle trade was already underway.
>>343115076
Why? That's just so fucking boring.
>>343110042
>Alexander the Great, Greek Leader
>conquered the known world
>not just greece
>not even from greece really
I know, it's an outrage right?
>>343109531
I CLICKED ON THAT IMAGE FOR THICC
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE THICC
GIMME THE THICC
damn I'd ravage her.
>>343115242
All I want is to wage a systematic war of genocide against filthy potatoes.
Is that really too much to ask?
>>343107318
That's like putting Pol Pot as a civ.
>>343115382
It's not like Greeks themselves don't take credit for him even though he was macedonian.
And for a modern viewer, they would look the same anyway.
>How do you actually pick which leaders represent each civilization?
>This time around was based around what we thought the personality would do for the game because certain leaders are going to fill certain gaps. We want X number of leaders that act this way, some that act this way, some that act this way, so you can have that balance going into the game. So it's not just about if they were a great leader, it's what they do.Whenever we have a leader that we think would bring a really interesting historic agenda to the table, like Teddy Roosevelt with his Big Stick policy, that's usually how we choose them. Of course there's going to be a balance. Some are Civ stalwarts. Some places really expect certain things to be in the game. We also always want a percentage that have never appeared in the game before, so we try to keep a percentage of those as well.
>>343104702
>>343105305
I prefer the serious CIV 5 look, and this has no moving background so far
>>343115382
>not even from greece really
Ancient Macedonia wasn't Greek?
>>343115315
okay, would you rather have Khrushchev for the USSR?
Jean de Arc for France?
Daler Mehndi for India?
A wedding planner for Greece?
>>343115283
>You are putting words into my mouth and assuming my political stance.
No, I didn't do anything to assume what YOU are, only your statement.
>You're ignoring that white man's burden didn't come from anything political. It came from people twisting Darwin's notes on adaptation to create the idea of white genetic superiority, and then was used as a justification for western imperialism.
This isn't on a liberal/conservative axis. If you said "would make Archie Bunker look like an anti-racist" I would have no qualms with your statement.
I linked you directly to an article that describes how so-called liberals used political violence to suppress the Populist and Republican parties in the south, which were cooperating along interracial lines. Elite liberals did that. And considering how quickly you responded to me, I don't think you even glanced at it.
>>343115261
You're only worth a second-hand post. Have fun reading a second-hand response intended for someone worth more of my time.
>>343115076
>sure, why not
>boring, I wouldn't mind having a complete cunt like De Gaulle, just to have something new
>he's a meme so he's a guaranteed lock
>pfft, lets drop greeks from civ entirely until they pay debts
>>343115494
potatoes die earlier and tend not to breed, why would you ever pick them as your main geno target?
>>343112639
Napoleon III for France.
>>343104702
ALFRED THE GREAT WHEN
>>343115818
there were more than one napoleon?!
>>343115621
>If you said "would make Archie Bunker look like an anti-racist" I would have no qualms with your statement.
It doesn't take a genius to understand that I meant it would make him look like a liberal to modern standards, especially since I said "if you brought him into modern time".
>I linked you directly to an article that describes how so-called liberals used political violence to suppress the Populist and Republican parties in the south, which were cooperating along interracial lines. Elite liberals did that. And considering how quickly you responded to me, I don't think you even glanced at it.
I didn't read it because it's completely irrelevant to what I was said. I don't care what liberals/conservatives did back then and I don't care what they do now, I'm just saying that if people today looked at TR and Archie side by side, people would say Archie sounds like a liberal by comparison.
>>343114868
see for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSL7cX8pBeo
character creator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C681DD6eRvs
I guess you choose what civ you want to be apart of. Then you and the other players team up build the city while also defending/attacking other civs.
>>343105218
>insane fatass who ruined England because he thought with his dick
nty
>>343115814
Because jews aren't a civ?
Come to think of it, none of the east bloc countries are in either.
And killing off european powers isn't a genocide, it's just a favor to world in general
>>343115921
We don't talk about him.
