Should I?
I don't know.
>>343082812
It's not though.
Absolutely not
>>343082812
JULY 29th, not June 29th. You have a month, bro.
As far as whether or not the upgrade is worth it: If you built or purchased your PC in the last four years, I would say yes. Otherwise, the driver compatibility hassles make it not worth it.
Use OO ShutUp 10 and Spybot Antibeacon.
>>343082812
Don't worry, it'll automatically do it for you next time you restart :^)
>mfw
suck a dick Microsoft
Can you repeat the question
I don't know
>>343082812
Yes. It's better in almost every way.
>>343082812
What do you mean "last day"? I'm sure they'll still be selling W10 later.
>>343083143
Especially the spyware :-)
Backup your HDD
Upgrade to 10
Copy down product key
Restore backup
Decide later
>>343083035
>>343083019 here
If any of you do not absolutely want Windows 10 and want the upgrade prompts disabled with any and all downloaded upgrade files removed, you can use Gibson's Never10. It is a program that runs once (not continuously) and sets an edit in your computer that Microsoft made for corporations to block the Windows 10 upgrade from occurring on non-Enterprise editions of Windows.
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
That being said, I still think it's worthwhile if your computer is four or fewer years old. If it's older then that you should DEFINITELY block the Windows 10 upgrade, as Microsoft is allowing computers with incomplete ("basic") driver support to be upgraded to Windows 10 so they can claim more devices were upgraded to tout the success of the "one windows" platform that Windows Phone, Windows 10, Xbone use.
>>343083203
He's talking about the free upgrade of retail/OEM installed copies of Windows 7 & 8.1 via the GWX update.
>>343083247
This isn't a bad approach if you aren't sure, as the activation of Windows 10 goes against your motherboard and is permanent against that motherboard. If you decide you want 10 on that computer later, you can just reinstall clean without putting in a product key and Windows 10 will automatically activate as your digital entitlement is already stored on Microsoft servers.
>upgrade
>>343083467
>He's talking about the free upgrade of retail/OEM installed copies of Windows 7 & 8.1 via the GWX update.
People BOUGHT W7/8?
Anyway, this seems like a strategy to encourage impulse upgrades, so I'd be suspicious of it.
>>343082812
Fuck.
No.
>W10
>upgrade
pick one.
>>343083234
It's possible to disable essentially all the features that have privacy concerns. I would note that shit that people had no issue over (e.g. the network connection pinging a microsoft server on IP changes to see if the computer was truly online, on a local network but not online, or offline, or if the user was on a wifi portal they needed to visit a logon page for) in 7/8/8.1 people flipped SHIT over and said HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ALL THE CONNECTIONS TO MICROSOFT IPS.
The defaults are boneheaded for privacy but utilities make it easy to flip all the switches to off.
Bigger objection for me is not being able to defer updates on the home edition, which I think is stupid.
>>343082812
no, it is a very unpleasant os to deal with
>>343083234
The ironic thing is that if you're so stupid that you can't control your computer, then windows 10 is probably the best for someone like you anyway.
>>343083616
Literally 2% of this made it into the full release. Update the image, retard.
>>343083584
>People BOUGHT W7/8?
yup. Bought legit W7 Ultimate discs when building my PC back in 2011, and I'm fucking happy I did, seeing how MS is literally shooting itself to the leg while forcing their ten-millimeter dick down everyone's throat.
Went through all my updates with a fine comb and then disabled all automatic Windows updates a few months ago, and I've not looked back. W7 remains on my computers as long as physically possible, and then starts Linux dualbooting.
>>343083616
>installing Windows 10 is giving up your liberties
wow. Go outside man, it can't be healthy to have your entire life revolve around your computer.
>>343083584
>People BOUGHT W7/8?
Any prebuilt laptop or desktop you get comes with a windows license.
Some people buy OEM or retail keys.
A lot of people took advantage to get cheap (Win741 $30 Windows 7 offer or Win8 upgrade offer for new PCs, $15 keys) or free (laundering Windows 8 Pro keys from fake to legitimate via free Windows Media center keys).
Also, Microsoft essentially can't tell the difference between a prebuilt PC running Windows 7 and Windows 7 activated by OEM Activation 2.0 (loaders like DAZ), so any PC activated that way looks legitimate.
They need to get the numbers up of Win10 upgrades to try to get people on the Windows store and convince people to buy shit through it. That's the gambit.
>>343082812
Do it
You can always downgrade later
>>343082812_no
Can you repeat the question?
>>343083616
>yfw this was all redacted so there no need to worry about spying on you
>yfwthey do it regardless of which version of windows or iOS you have
Why does Microsoft want me to upgrade to 10 so badly?
>>343083808
>disabled updates
jesus christ, if the win10 update triggers you that much, just use never10 or something
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
or even just disable updating to new versions of windows via winupdate through the group policy setting
>>343083584
I bought a new legit disc copy of 7 Pro SP1 off amazon for $60 last week
through various circumstances, I ended up doing a fresh install of 10 and 7 on two different computers within a couple days of one another
>7
-needed to plan ahead and put some basic drivers on a cd (usb, ethernet), or just have the motherboard's driver disc handy
-apart from that, was an absolute delight to install. complete breeze
-result is a crisp, clean OS that was a snap to customize to my preferences
>10
-had basic drivers built-in
-installation was fine
-after installation was a fucking two-hour slog through garbage trying to remove all of the ways it's fucking forcing itself in your face saying "HEY! YOU'RE USING WINDOWS 10! DID YOU KNOW!?!?"
-after all that, it's STILL not the way I want, with zero control of the start menu, near-zero control over the appearance of any ui features, and at least two dozen built-in bloatware "apps" that absolutely cannot be removed
>>343083616
>Microsoft is watching you and stealing your privacy.
>Don't download w10!
People actually believe this.
3
>>343084083
tl;dr Microsoft said they wanted ONE BILLION devices upgraded to Windows 10. This claim is because they wanted the Universal Windows Platform (Windows 10/Windows Phone/Xbone) commonality to enjoy cross platform sales of apps, games, etc. and more popularity on the other two platforms for integration.
By all accounts they're well short of that with the one year ending, so they're trying to push it as hard as possible so some Senior division head at Microsoft doesn't get fired for falling substantially short of the goal.
>>343082812
Just use Linux. PC gaming fucking sucks.
>>343083616
>give up liberty to obtain security deserve neither
I hate this fedora ass quote.
>>343082812
>it's a "make a rhetoric question to advertise something" thread
if you're really asking the answer is no, and will forever be no
>>343083806
[citation needed]
>>343083845
>You like privacy and personal rights? You must be a no-live nerd!!! :^)
>>343084296
No, everyone else EXCEPT you already KNOW this.
>>343084468
using an ancient headgear as an insult won't make the statement false. Enjoy your Skynet.
>>343084296
>unironically caring what OS anons use enough to defend w10
>for no compensation
Is there a way I can download the things needed for the W10 upgrade and keep it on my computer until I choose to use it?
>>343084343
Woah
>>343084468
>Ben Franklin is now considered fedora
I don't know how to feel about this world anymore. It's fucked.
>>343082812
let it do it itself and sue them for a quick 10k.
>>343084603
>[citation needed]
Not an argument.
LATEST Nvidia drivers are broken on Windows 10 and causes display crashes. Emulators run better on Windows 7 than Windows 10 for me. If you do the upgrade, certain programs (Deus Ex) may break for reasons unknown.
Stick to Windows 7 until you absolutely have to switch.
>>343084859
What GPU are you using senpai? For AMD, anything below the HD 5000 series is not supported on Windows 10 except from a basic driver from Microsoft that's fucking worthless. Nvidia's driver support goes further back.
>>343082812
Even though you were wrong on the date, I thank you OP. I completely forgot about this and tonight my PC will be upgraded.
>>343084834
Neither is a baseless statement with random numbers pulled out of your own ass.
>>343084608
>Ironically caring enough to comment on my post.
>>343084647
its another ''scientist talk shits about politics'' episode
>>343084621
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-media-creation-tool-create-installation-media-upgrade
If you create a DVD or USB and then use what you created to launch the upgrade WITHIN YOUR EXISTING COPY OF WINDOWS before July 29th, then you can get the upgrade and execute it whenever you want.
If you do the upgrade after July 29th it will upgrade and then tell you that you don't have a license and need to do a Windows 10 key.
Once a particular computer is licensed on Windows 10, that motherboard is permanently activated for Win10, even if you reinstall clean.
>>343084603
Its a good thing that microsoft will never catch you then anon, God speed.
>>343085026
GTX 970 on my desktop.
The issue also happened on my 860m laptop.
Reverting to 362.00 on the desktop fixed it but the laptop kept crashing regardless if I did a clean reinstall with DDU.
>>343085076
So your image?
im having more fps in games on win10 than on win8, but its slower to start the computer, and after i start it i have to wait for like 10 seconds or things just dont work, this didn't happened in win8.
>>343084859
>now do the stanky leg
>>343085085
Naturally. Why wouldn't I be curious about what you get out of defending an OS? I mean unless it affects you directly (it shouldn't) there's no reason to defend it. It's just an OS.
>>343084834
If an argument is presented without evidence, then the argument can be dismissed without evidence.
Go be retarded somewhere else.
Obligatory https://youtu.be/OMKnMvwc3qs
No.
Now get out, Pajeet.
>>343085187
okay so it's better to do it like anon says here >>343083247 ?
>>343085301
Do you mean the original Deus Ex from steam, or Human Revolution?
What happens when the game is launched - black screen, white screen, stuttering, crash? Does the display driver explicitly crash?
>>343085674
Post the one where the poo in loo microshitter actually started posting selfies on /v/
>>343085730
Yeah, that's a good way to do it. Windows 10 upgrade normally preserves your old install with a "revert to older windows" option in the control panel for a month after you do the upgrade, but it never hurts to have a good quality backup.
>>343085818
This one?
>>343082812
the update will probably be available forever.
microsoft makes money by collecting data from you with it. they're just trying to scare you into upgrading sooner so they can start the data mining sooner then later.
It's not better than 7/8 and if you're talking about an upgrade I assume you use one of those two. So you shouldn't bother.
There's also the spying stuff but it's not an issue if you're not a US citizen.
>>343085474
Well not really "defending" more of, "wow, people are thinking microsoft watches millions of people while they do private stuff on their PC." I could care less but i still find it amusing.
>>343086057
It's also worth noting that almost all of the telemetry on Windows 10 was backported to 7 & 8.1 as updated that would install automatically by default, so unless you blocked them (or uninstalled them) it's the same shit.
>>343085973
That's hilarious, and pretty recent.it's always /g/ that ends up taking the brunt of their shilling.
>>343085787
Human Revolution Director's Cut.
Complete black screen. Game worked fine the day before I upgraded. No idea why. Tried verifying through Steam and that didn't work. Gave up and went back to Windows 7.
Granted it might have been a fluke, but this is why I prefer to reformat for a new OS than upgrade. Microsoft clearly wants people on Windows 10 regardless of compatibility.
>>343086305
Eh, you have to do the upgrade to get the free digital entitlement for licensing on 10, but from that point on you can go Control Panel -> Update & Security -> Recovery -> Reset this PC. You can choose to do this keeping your files and folders but removing your applications, or removing all files and folders. Super easy. Backup recommended before doing it in either case.
You can also clean install from the CD without a product key, or if you're moving a Windows 7 or 8.1 product key (retail) to a new PC, you can install windows 7/8.1 clean without a product key on a new mobo, go to activate windows, put in a 7/8.1 retail key, and it will activate Windows 10, assuming edition of the key and windows you installed are the same (home, pro, etc.)
Since it sounds like you reverted after upgrading through the GWX upgrade or media creation utility, you should be able to install Windows 10 clean from DVD or USB without putting in a product key. Activation would be automatic via digital entitlement of your mobo.
>>343086298
They're also way too obvious.
Why can't I just reserve my copy until I actually want to install it?
>>343086607
WHO THE FUCK STILL BUYS NOKIA
>>343087078
Because microsoft wants to be able to claim a half billion devices on Windows 10 by july. they need a deadline to force people to want to upgrade before that date.
>>343087134
Shills and poorfags, noboody wants a windows phone with a nice camera but zero apps
>>343086601
I appreciate the advice (assuming you aren't a pajeet paid to know all this) but why would I consider going back to Windows 10 when Windows 7 worked just fine?
The new Windows Apps don't appeal to me and Windows 10 would throttle all my other downloads for updates, regardless of my settings. Its a step up from Windows 8, but it doesn't do anything better other than Copy/Paste operations.
>>343087078
To psychologically manipulate you into thinking that you have to jump on this offer ASAP or "risk" losing out?
I am just going to buy a new computer and get W10, because my 4+ year old laptop is getting too shitty to handle new games.
I did it a month ago and don't regret it, but be wary that there are some ... surprises.
>>343084240
>after installation was a fucking two-hour slog through garbage trying to remove all of the ways it's fucking forcing itself in your face saying "HEY! YOU'RE USING WINDOWS 10! DID YOU KNOW!?!?"
>after all that, it's STILL not the way I want, with zero control of the start menu, near-zero control over the appearance of any ui features, and at least two dozen built-in bloatware "apps" that absolutely cannot be removed
wut
just slap classic shell on it, disable cortana, and disable any notifications that bug you
>bought windows 7
that better have been for a business computer, there's zero excuse not to use daz' loader for win7 at this point
it's so good at fooling microsoft that you can literally do the free upgrade to win10 using a win7 you activated with it and microsoft still can't tell the difference, i know because i've gotten legit win10 on two computers this way
>>343087275
>I appreciate the advice (assuming you aren't a pajeet paid to know all this)
I shan't. Just a neighborhood IT guy waiting for some software to install on my sandbox Linux server, pissing some time away here as the install progresses.
>but why would I consider going back to Windows 10 when Windows 7 worked just fine?
Mainly driver compatibility for certain things, certain apps that won't be backported (Xbox), DirectX 12 if you ever choose to upgrade your graphics card, faster booting, and in the case of Windows 7, the upgrade would get you support past early 2020 (when Windows 7 support ends entirely).
>The new Windows Apps don't appeal to me
Okay then, DirectX 12 may appeal later and longer support lifetimes, faster boot, peripheral driver compatibility... There's also a few articles on this:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2487499,00.asp
If you don't care about the features in the upgrade, no one is forcing you to, and I recommend Never10 to block it in that case.
>Windows 10 would throttle all my other downloads for updates
What are you referring to here, the Windows update P2P shit? That's a control panel setting. It's also easy to disable some of the stupid privacy defaults with OO Software ShutUp10 and Safer-Networking's Spybot antibeacon. Both are freeware, and the former definitely disables the sharing of Windows updates over the internet.
>>343087370
If the computer is that old, then definitely don't upgrade it. Driver support for a 4+ year old PC on Windows 10 is likely to be suboptimal. MS will let you upgrade, it'll just run like shit.
>>343087372
This is the only reason I refused to upgrade.
Will they show my search history?
My last image view history?
last video history with thumbnail?
>>343082812
Can't you just create a partition and install it there without having to fuck with your old OS and uninstall it later; or has that option been taken away as well?
I swear to god the freetard population of /g/ is so fucking stupid, it makes it so hard to talk about anything that isn't linux, stallman or anime without spergs going on about 'BOTNET PAJEET SHILL BOTNET PAJEET SHILL'. And if you shut down their stupid linux ricing threads they start flooding the board with shit until they get it back.
/g/ used to be so much better
>>343087890
Web search & web search history is enabled by default and can be disabled.
Search history on-device is on by default and can be disabled.
Thumbnail previews of images that match searches can be disabled via File Explorer, BAT/REG file, or group policy.
>>343087928
Maybe, to be honest I don't know. When I did it the way you had to do it was launch the upgrade from the prior install of windows and it took care of the rest, not asking about partitions at all.
You could potentially upgrade the existing partition and do the rollback to older windows option, then install to a second partition - that should work fine, as the clean install will retrieve the digital entitlement from MS Activation servers.
>>343088180
POO
>>343082812
>windows 10
>gaming
not even once
do you have to pay for online to play stuff like killer instinct multiplayer?
>>343082812
too late it'll take many hours and there is no time left
>>343087890
I've set my "weird shit" folder to hidden and it doesn't pop up in the search anymore
>>343088494
Hmmmmm, that's interesting. I'd be curious to see if anybody has done a revisit on this now that Microsoft and driver developers have had a year to fix their shit after the RTM, or if Win10 is still behind.
>SLI laptop
A more interesting comparison would be a desktop for me, doesn't make the results you posted are invalid.
>>343088180
>blatantly lying
Why?
>>343088779
what about the folder inside the hidden folder?
>>343088494
pretty great gaming platform desu senpai
>>343082812
Will they stop fucking planting it in their updates once it stops being free?
>>343087890
install classic shell and you can pretty much ignore it
>>343083584
>People BOUGHT W7/8?
Of course.
>>343083808
>yup. Bought legit W7 Ultimate discs when building my PC back in 2011, and I'm fucking happy I did, seeing how MS is literally shooting itself to the leg while forcing their ten-millimeter dick down everyone's throat.
Literally me.
Also recently
>wifebuilt a new desktop PC without OS
>until now she had an ancient laptop originally with Vista then upgraded to W7 Pro (32-bit) with an upgrade key bought for cheap from MS Store with her then student discount
>prepare myself to get some shitty reused W7 OEM key or pay out of my ass for a Retail W7 to get her running
>decide to make a clean install of W7 Pro (64-bit) and try the key anyway just for the heck of it
>IT JUST WERKS
>???????
>PROFIT
I've never been happier about a Microsoft product in my life before.
>>343088894
there was "apply to subfolders" checkbox there, so it may look shit, but at least it won't pop up unexpected
>>343089015
The telemetry/diagnostic updates are unlikely to disappear. The GWX update will almost certainly be delisted and deactivated.
>>343087890
yeas all you pedos are doomed
it's like a clockwork honeypot
>>343089148
why would you buy win7 when you can just use daz' activator
>>343082812
Win 10 is over. They can't even force upgrades anymore unless they want to start paying $10k per user
http://www.pcgamer.com/woman-wins-lawsuit-over-unwanted-windows-10-installation/
>>343089157
>That atheist image
>>343089157
what about the third party image viewer? Will it showed the thumbnail history?
>>343083247
easier solution would be to just create a new partition on your same drive and install windows 10 on there.
aren't new games going to require dx12 or be win10 exclusive soon?
can I install all window updates with cracked windows 7? I turned off updates years ago and never bothered
>>343089318
Windows 7 got really cheap at certain points - $30 for a retail key - and some people preferred the peace of mind and support from Microsoft directly, or it was "cheap enough" to not care. (Windows 8 got cheaper for $15 as part of the upgrade offer shortly before it came out, and "free" if you used an activator on Win 8 Pro and then put in a free Windows Media center key, it laundered it into a legit key - MSFT killed that quickly, but the keys that were already given out, it was too late).
>>343089381
They settled the lawsuit, if people start suing en masse they'll fight it. In reality they've already backed off a couple more aggressive changes (e.g. automatic scheduling without cancel option if you close it out with the X button in the upper right of the window). People can still sue, but it's unlikely to cause any irreparable harm to MS. They have shitloads of lawyers (not as many as oracle, but still plenty).
eh, might as well. it's not so bad once you rip it to pieces and uninstall all of the bullshit. once you do that it's basically a nicer looking windows 7.
as for the spyware i don't really care one way or the other. if microsoft really wants to know that i'm in to ENFmore power to them
>>343089467
Updates are generally safe on Windows 7 but it depends on the method of activation, RemoveWAT is hacky shit and certain other activators fall off. DAZ Loader should be safe for updates including the Get Windows 10 update and the upgrade to ten.
>>343089403
I don't think I can help you here, it doesn't see my image viewer at all, I guess it was a portable version or something?
>>343089318
>why would you buy win7 when you can just use daz' activator
Because I'm not 12 any more and can afford to buy shit. Also to be legit and have a peace of mind with updates etc.
So will Microsoft force me to upgrade after this, which will force me to pay for it?
My C drive is almost out of space and it says it needs 8 GB to upgrade. Any tips? It's supposed to be much smaller after the update than windows 7. I have a 20 GB partition available but it's before the windows partition so I can't extend C partition.
the update is exponentially slowing down like a motherfucker
now a percent takes half an hour and I am at 95
>>343089803
DAZ was essentially an extremely safe activator that took advantage of a loophole of sorts in Microsoft's activation. Microsoft changed activation in Windows 10 and up for this reason. I'm not saying you're wrong, but just context.
Computer system makers (Dell, HP, etc.) activate Windows by putting your product key for Windows in the motherboard itself, in the BIOS (stored on a chip on the board). Whenever you reinstall windows, the copy looks for the key in the computer, and if it's there, Windows gets preactivated.
On computers that shipped with Windows 7, the key was the same in every computer a given manufacturer shipped (HP, Dell, etc.). What DAZ does is insert itself into Windows' loading process, so when it looks for this table that doesn't actually exist on the motherboard, it tells windows that it's there, windows gets activated. Microsoft can't meaningfully get rid of it since it tampers with the boot process.
Windows 8 and up, these keys were made unique per motherboard, meaning this sort of fakeout couldn't be done.
I know of people (*Cough*) who activated Windows 7 either with DAZ or by just directly injecting the SLIC table into their custom built PC, and they were on 7 fine for years and upgraded fine.
Win8 & 10 activation is trickier, it's pretty easy to fake out KMS (enterprise) activation in the short term but it's easier to detect later via updates.
>>343089750
What's Irfan?So it is worth updating then? 5 years laptop here
Windows 10, aside from new games, seems like an overall worse version of 7. I don't like the new layout and I don't like the new driver issues.
If I do go to 10 it'll be a year or two so fucking Nvidia can figure their shit out.
>>343090187
That's what I did. I built a new PC last september and pirated a windows 7 that I then upgraded to 10. Never had any problems.
>>343089910
https://redmondmag.com/articles/2016/05/06/windows-10-upgrade-offer.aspx
tl;dr If you trust microsoft on this, they'll disable the Win7/win8 update that upgrades to windows 10 after july 29th passes so you don't get force upgraded into a "buy windows 10" scenario.
If you have no intention or desire to upgrade before that date, use Never10 to set a flag on your computer and the GWX update will absolutely not upgrade you to Windows 10 without prompting.
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
>>343090124
Still in Windows or in the "PC is upgrading screen" with a bootloader?
I had some slowness at 95% but the whole thing took about 20 minutes since I use a solid state drive.
>>343089381
>Teri Goldstein was awarded $10,000 after Windows 10 borked her PC.
>Goldstein
holy shit
>>343090393
still in windows and yes I have an ssd too
>>343090238
irfanview, a good image viewer with some simple editing tools.
I installed W10 first on my old laptop that I'm pretty sure it's more than 5 years old to test it and it worked fine, not a single issue with drivers despite the touchscreen that could potentially be problematic.
I'm not exactly happy I'm forced to switch, but I'm pretty sure it's better to bend over and take it now, instead of waiting a bit and then being forced to pay for it on top of everything.
>>343090523
If it's downloading, that's apparently (google search) a common little quirk, give it a few minutes. If it's preparing the update, it may be running a final compatibility check before starting it.
just upgrade the damn thing, it doesn't do anything that hasn't been done since windows XP, they are just more obvious about it.
also /v/ in general hates it which is a good sign that there's nothing wrong with it.
you'll need it for directx 12 anyway.
>>343090259
If I'm ever forced to drop 7 I'm dropping windows all together and switching to something open source
>>343083616
>save this image on my windows 10 pc
>less then 10 seconds later get a contact request from someone I don't know on skype
save me /v/
>>343090640
nah it says installing and it's not stuck but very slow
>>343089635
>They settled the lawsuit, if people start suing en masse they'll fight it.
don't be retarded. they settled with her to prevent a class action. and they'll settle a class action too, because there isn't a jury anywhere that will take their side on this
if they actually stopped forcing upgrades that's good too, but if they couldn't get people to upgrade for free, voluntarily or otherwise, then the material issue remains: Win 10 is done
>>343084603
>using snowdin as an argument
Wow lad, I mean, wew.
>>343090653
>XP
wow so epic haha.
fuck off newfag
>>343083019
I've got a 965 Black and a 5870 in my old system, should I bother updating that to 10 while it's still free or just leave it on 7. I don't use it anymore.
>>343090965
wtf are you on about
Reminder that windows 7 is seven years old. You don't keep a pc or cellphone for that long now do you?
>>343082812
If you like being spied on.
>>343082812
I have it and it's alright. If you care too much about your privacy, just use a different computer/laptop for browsing the web and stuff.
>>343083326
>If any of you do not absolutely want Windows 10 and want the upgrade prompts disabled with any and all downloaded upgrade files removed, you can use Gibson's Never10
or you can not be a complete retarded sperglord like thjose who need to install speccy to check their hardware.... and use a program to delete an update.
do it manually
here is how:
>find the update that asks if you want to upgrade to 10 in your update list (google and ctrl+F is your friend here)
>uninstall update
>click do not auto download again on updating windows
it is gone and you will never see it again.
>>343090713
>If I'm ever forced to drop 7 I'm dropping windows all together and switching to something open source
Support for Windows 7 ends January 14, 2020, at which point Microsoft will stop providing support, no further security updates will be provided, and most likely device makers will stop updating or supporting device drivers. You'd be running Windows 7 at your own risk at that point.
You do have another three and a half years before that date though.
>>343090889
>don't be retarded. they settled with her to prevent a class action.
She filed in small claims court, that's not a valid venue for a class action. In California, you can file for a small claim up to $10,000, and attorneys are not generally allowed - meaning Microsoft would have to fly someone who is not a lawyer to California ($400-$1000+ for airfare, most likely $500+ for hotel, meals, rental car, etc.) that is not a lawyer to represent them (could be embarrassing for the company especially if the person flubs their words).
In other words - before they take a software engineer or whatever off his work, have an attorney coach him on what to say and pay that attorneys time, fly him from Washington to Cali, etc. it's cheaper given the risk to just settle the small claim.
If she had filed in regular court then they could have had attorneys file the paper directly for a smackdown.
>>343091204
>using emoticons on 4chan
are you new?
>>343091295
Are you fucking serious right now?
Give me your strongest tinfoil images regarding windows 10.
I need them for a friend. Thanks.
>>343084603
Thanks, gonna post this to my le epic friends on reddit. Much appreciated, good sir. *tip*
>>343091113
If your chipset has support and the computer is more recent you can consider it. That being said, Windows 7 has another three years of support and that card is not DX12 capable, I'd probably stick to Win7 myself in that case.
>>343091307
Good idea, badly executed.
The problem is that Windows updates are unhidden when they are updated to latest versions. If the GWX update was updated two days ago and I blocked it, if they update the existing upgrade again today, it's unhidden.
Never10 sets a group policy edit that will prevent the GWX update from doing anything if actually installed. It's Microsoft's recommended way for businesses to ensure that Windows 10 upgrades do not occur on the computers of businesses if they don't want them.
>>343091451
are you?
>>343091538
It's not tinfoil when they straight up tell you they're going to spy on you.
>>343091332
>Support for Windows 7 ends January 14, 2020
anon I was still running my XP laptop over a year after they stopped supporting it, and still would be if it didn't break, causing me to get a new one.
which coincidentally had 10 on it and I had to put a pirated 7 ultimate back on it.
>your own risk at that point
what do you think happens if you don't update windows....
nothing at all, as long as you have an up to date anti virus and a spyware tool you are fine.
windows updates do nothing to little to "protect" your computer.
>>343082812
Absolutely not.
I'm just throwing this out there....Can't I just saw I Disagree to the terms and agreement clause it won't install?
>>343083584
Before upgrading I had a friend who worked for a company that had a shit ton of windows keys. I was running DAZ but it was fucking up recently and was afraid the upgrade was not going to go through so he gave me a free windows 7 ultimate key
Shit was cash
>>343091853
All good until somebody hijacks an ad network or uses an exploit on a host of a website you visit and inserts code from an exploit kit that uses an unprompted remote code execution vulnerability.
But hey, when it's a rootkit and the major AV vendors worth a damn continued support, you won't see anything.
>>343091636
>updates are unhidden when they are updated to latest versions
of course they are unhidden, you can check every file that windows has downloaded for auto update in its registry, use ctrl+f and find the GWX "security update" (it's actually technically adware not a security update) delete it, and never install it again and you won't get the message to update to 10 again.
it's not rocket science.
the hardest part is finding the correct K security update code and that is just googling it.
>>343091908
It will launch the upgrade to Windows 10 automatically if you get the GWX update and don't explicitly decline it. If you decline the End User License Agreement when Windows 10 first starts, it will revert to your prior version of Windows.
>>343091451
>this faggot right here
>thinking there were any emoticons in that post
You must be 18 or older to post on 4chan, kiddo.
>>343084859
What's going on in this webm? What did they do?
I got a windows 7 laptop on its last leg.
It's blue screening and running noticeably slower. Should I just format it instead of windows 10?
>>343084859
Compatibility mode?
>>343092387
>>343091738
>Windows XP
>XP
get fugged
>>343092618
asphyxiation
>>343092651
install guh new loonux
>>343092853
I shouldn't respond to bait, but...I'm genuinely curious if you're actually stupid enough that you don't realize XP is the Version, and not an emoticon.
>>343092651
You're probably better off getting/building a new laptop/PC altogether. BSODs usually indicate hardware issues, and/or bad/outdated drivers.
give me 3 reasons why i should upgrade to 10
>>343082812
>tfw you have to go into msconfig and do selective startup + uncheck all non Microsoft services
The worst part is that I was taking a massive shit while the PC decided to upgrade itself. And I don't want to lose the "" """free""" update, but want to go back to win7 - - where bluescreens were once in a blue moon
>>343093014
yeah lol XP
>>343082812
I have an old laptop that I use primarily to house and watch porn. I think I'll keep it Win7 because no reason to upgrade.
>>343092250
>continued
discontinued*
>>343092651
You're probably better off formatting + reinstall Win 7. Get the update rollup to make getting all the windows updates less of a pain in the ass.
>>343092290
Personal preference, I don't think most people want to remember KB# whatever whenever they have to permit updates when they could set a one time update that will prevent the GWX update from doing anything and have it automatically quit (and after July 29th it will uninstall itself), but if you're THAT AGAINST flipping a registry key or group policy edit and would rather manually police a list of updates, your call.
>>343082812
I did, actually fixed some technical problems I was having with my current OS.
I disabled windows update about a year and a half ago
how fucked am I
a lot of old games will be incompatible with windows 10
legit the only real reason to ever upgrade your OS is if all new games start demanding next direct X and requiring the OS
no xbone game is worth upgrading to windows 10 for, but its not like windows 7 or 8 is any better, they are all complete fucking trash, even vista was trash. microsoft is just forcing people to jump on the train so they can sell you updates later down the road, they revealed this was their long term plan a long ass time ago
>>343093089
If you hate yourself
If you want MS to know about all the loli and futa and lolifuta you beat it to
If you want angry birds ads in your start menu
>>343093473
From a security perspective? You'll probably get drive by malware eventually.
From an upgrade perspective? You should be OK, the Get Windows 10 upgrade was first available in late March, 2015.
>>343093330
>Personal preference, I don't think most people want to remember KB#
you are seriously retarded aren't you.
by deleting the update, and adding it to the list to never download it again when you use windows auto update.
the GWX update isn't installed on your computer anymore, and it wont redownload unless you do it manually and cant "update" because you uninstalled it.
>police a list of updates
it's one update.
I did it three months ago on a new reboot and haven't had to go into win update or even control panel since.
>>343085087
>Franklin
>not a politician
Can I use the same key to install 64 bit Win10 if I happen to have a PC that came with 32 bit Win10?
>>343093729
I just wanna be sure that microsoft doesn't sneak the W10 update past me, I got an enormous amount of moonrunes and ancient games that needed tons of compatibility fixes.
Paranoia got the best of me.
>>343094138
>not pirating any and every copy of windows you use.
>>343087372
How the fuck does that even happen?
>>343093476
>Windows Vista
Vista wasn't perfect on release, the main problem was Microsoft being pussies and allowing OEMs to bully them into minimum requirements for "Vista Ready" advertising that were way too low to run correctly, and not enforcing mandatory driver signing on 32-bit windows. This made machines that use it a clusterfuck.
>7
7 is what Vista should have been and a great OS to succeed XP. They had the problem of not releasing an SP for forever and a reinstall requiring fifty billion updates but they fixed that recently with the update rollup.
>8
8 was a problem, RTC, start menu, etc... no compelling reason to upgrade.
Some people would rather emulate certain older games in Dosbox or virtual machine, the biggest hurdle to compatibility was 16-bit support being dropped in x64 versions of Vista and up. Depends on what you're running though - main thing I wish I could run is Mechwarrior 3 and that doesn't run on Windows 7 either, unfortunately.
>>343093927
If you choose to ignore windows updates after uninstall/delist and manual updating only, and you choose to not update your shit, then bless you and I hope you don't get hit by an remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability.
>>343087372
Random guess: the images were edited in Microsoft Paint or Paint.Net and the name of the program is contained within the metadata of those images.
I had W7 installed on a small ssd, so I just cloned that and upgraded the cloned partition to W10.
There's probably a better way to do it, but it dual boots fine now.
>>343094542
>If you choose to ignore windows updates after uninstall/delist and manual updating only
there is a world of special retarded people,m called aspieland, you need to go there.
I deleted, and made an exeption within my uptates and auto updates the ONE "security update" that is actually the GWX message that pops up continuosly
my updates still update regularly, I never reinstall that GWX and I never get a message asking me to upgrade to windows 10.
how fucking hard is that to understand.
that is why autists like you need to install spyware programs like never10 to do simple tasks
Only reason I have to want to upgrade is to play Killer Instinct and some of the xbox one games on my PC but even then I have almost zero urge to upgrade from 7.
>mfw using Windows 7 until extended support ends and then going with linux or something else
>>343094792
Obviously the person tagged the images as something like "something bodypaint" and the search for "paint" also showed that.
>>343095131
A) Never10 is not spyware. It's made by a well regarded computer expert named Steve Gibson, who has been working on computer shit almost assuredly longer than you've been alive, and makes one of the strongest hard drive data recovery tools you can run from a CD/USB out there (Spinrite).
B) As I said, if your objection is to using a third party executable to disable the GWX update, then you can do it via registry or group policy edit. This is one edit that's easy to make by hand, and easier than policing an update list non-stop for months.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351
C) If you are only preventing the GWX update from installing by manually reviewing the update list by checking the KB numbers (who called WHO autistic, again?), then you probably are allowing several other updates that allow backporting of the telemetry options that Windows 10 has. If this DOES happen to be your objection to installing Windows 10 and you didn't block/not again install these updates again, then you missed the point.
D) Again on the autistic point, continuing to review a manual list of updates by knowledge base number is pretty autistic, anon.
Guys, I'm on Win7 and have all the updates,
but It still tells me i've got my spot "reserved"
for the upgrade, or whatever.
But it won't actually let me go through with it.
What the fuck.
>>343084083
so old people stop calling tech support for their windows95 issues
>>343095632
Just use the media creation tool, create a DVD or USB drive, then launch the upgrade setup.exe from that while in your prior version of Windows.
I might update just so my pirated copy of 7 becomes legit.
>>343095746
That will still get me an activated Win10, right?
>>343095810
Correct.
1) Use the media creation tool to make a DVD/USB.
2) Launch the upgrade setup.exe from within your prior version of Windows 7/8 before July 29th
3) Do the upgrade
4) That's it, you'll be activated upon upgrade to Windows 10.
>>343095810
If you 'upgrade' during the installation instead of doing a fresh install, pretty sure it automatically has it activated.
Why is the windows update service such a fucking load on CPU and RAM? I have to stop that fucking shit so it stops leeching performance and memory.
>>343095941
>>343095962
Thanks, bros.
This place is better than /g/.
>>343096063
this is on windows 10?
>>343096063
No idea, are you on Windows 7? Had this issue on my father's computer, Windows update went fucking crazy. I had to wait for 100 updates to install manually killing the windows update service via command line (net stop wuauserv) once per update or else the CPU stalled and the updates wouldn't install. It's fucking insanity. All the shit like updating the windows update agent, deleting the windows update store, ETC. didn't help.
I only have a pirated version, and i won't pay for the "free" upgrade, thanks.
>>343096252
Yeah, it happens on windows 7, on every single computer. Home basic, pro, etc.
I used to kill the process but it's actually the windows update service that must be disabled.
I only turned it on just now to update my w7 because it's been like a couple months.
>>343089467
Any game worth a shit will run fine on W7/8
>>343095602
>telemetry options
>implying I allow for info to be shared to microsoft from (or any company)
>implying I install "optional" updates for windows.
I am using a pirate 7 ult on both rigs, I'm not gonna opt in for telemetry when I am illegal. and those options are optional updates.
also you say this guy who makes this software is some altruistic PC guru where I say bullshit, people on the internet are trying to get money from every angle, other than most shit posters on chans, or pre 2005 AVG.
for all you know you might be purposely installing the spyware you are trying to keep away from. now that would be ironic.
>use Windows 8.1 pro
>use classic shell
Couldn't be any better desu senpai
>>343096329
If you're activated on 7 with a loader that fakes OEM activation, then it's nigh impossible for the free upgrade to ten not give you a legitimate license via digital entitlement.
If you're activated via KMS (enterprise activation) on Windows 7 or 8, then the upgrade to ten probably won't survive activation.
Got my windows 7 from TPB. One day if I ever feel like upgrading, I will get my windows 10 from TPB too.
>>343083019
>Use OO ShutUp 10 and Spybot Antibeacon
Why don't I want Windows spying on me again?
>>343096626
>also you say this guy who makes this software is some altruistic PC guru where I say bullshit, people on the internet are trying to get money from every angle, other than most shit posters on chans, or pre 2005 AVG.
He sells other software like Spinrite, the Never10 makes a basic registry/GPO edit point and click, it's not something worth charging for and it drives people to his website for free and gives him publicity in news articles. As I said - don't trust the guy, you can do the exact same shit by hand per the Microsoft KB article.
>I am using a pirate 7 ult on both rigs, I'm not gonna opt in for telemetry when I am illegal. and those options are optional updates.
At a minimum, KB3068708 is a recommended update, and Microsoft might change that at any time. Just an FYI as you police your update list, to make sure that one do make sure you aren't installing that one, or haven't done it already.
Yes, just make sure to use DWS and it's better than 7.
>>343096691
Do you have more info? I too would like know what's the best way for a pirate to get win 10, currently running pirated 7. I got the "not genuine" message about a year ago, and disabled auto updates then.
Fuck it about to go from W8.1 with classic shell to W10. Waiting for the update to download. What am I in for?
>>343097264
I haven't even got my auto update on I just checked
I just went to that guys site and it says:
Never10 does NOT prevent the installation of Windows updates, including
the infamous Get Windows 10 (GWX) update KB3035583. Never10 simply
employs Microsoft's documented and sanctioned configuration settings to
instruct it NOT to change the installed version of Windows.
so all he is doing is changing reg edits.
I think deleting the actual update is a smarter way, though you could do both anyway.
each to their own.
>>343097673
thepiratebay.org
>>343097680
>What am I in for?
adverts, lots and lots of adverts. ohh and a shitty ui, but you were using 8 so you should be fine.
>>343097680
>>343097904
I'm using classic shell so it's basically W7.
shill
Cortana is actually pretty good. Everything else is shit
>>343097673
If Win7 already bitched about not genuine once then it probably won't activate.
Start -> cmd.exe -> right click -> run as administrator. Then run the command slmgr.vbs /dli (software licensing manager, flag display license information). No, this isn't a delete system32 command.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn502540(v=ws.11).aspx
Display license information.
By default, /dli displays the license information for the installed active Windows edition. Specifying the [Activation ID] parameter displays the license information for the specified edition associated with that Activation ID. Specifying [All] as the parameter will display all applicable installed products’ license information.
The output will be something like this (image). The key part is line 2.
If the channel is OEM/system builder, then you're probably activated with DAZ or similar faking Windows OEM Activation 2.0, which should survive the upgrade and give you a legit license on 10.
If it's retail or KMS/MAK/Enterprise and you pirated it - it probably won't remain legit on Win10.
>>343097747
As far as the KB3035583 update I'm on 10 now and don't have to care, but I have 16GB of RAM in my laptops, 32GB in my desktop, resource usage is minimal. GWX update sees the Microsoft recommended GPO edit and it just quits without doing anything. I'd rather have the edit in place, even if I also wanted to uninstall the update and manually police the update list.
Gibson is big on the "low impact' thing which is why his EXE to run these commands is less than 100KB and is portable (non-install) - he has a boner for size/resource efficiency.
>>343098407 here
To my first part about the upgrade - ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP OF YOUR PC. In a worst case scenario you don't want to lose all your shit if Windows 10 isn't upgraded. If you have OEM activation on Windows 7, not genuine messages are essentially unheard of on free Win10 upgrades. But it never hurts to have a backup!
>>343089009
>Not disabling or postponing updates
Either he's retarded or doing this for memepoints.
>>343098846
You can't disable or defer updates on Windows 10 Home, but you can select the "Notify to schedule restart" option in the control panel. Generally you also have to ignore several prompts to restart before Windows will force you, like with this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXs0Yy5-0Y
>>343098407
Ok thanks.
>>343082812
Sooner or later they will literally force you to update or use 10 anyway. Either you dual boot it with Linux or stick with it.
>>343083616
This is old news, by using Google or any microsoft service your privacy has already been raped to hell and back. It's not like W10 changes much.
>>343099328
>Home
Did Microsoft fuck up sending out serials to those with 7 Pro/Ultimate and 8/8.1 Pro? I thought enthusiasts would have any Pro version of Windows because a Home version has a cap for RAM.
>>343099724
Google is probably worse than Microsoft on this, Android phones report your location data to Google on a per minute basis by default, which is how Opinion rewards, Foursquare, etc. get really creepy about exactly where you are.
If you own an Android device: You owe it to yourself to try this link:
https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/
>>343090043
windirstat
>>343100034
>location history turned off since 2010
feels good
>>343099989
Nah, but plenty of people were too cheap for a pro license on earlier versions of windows.
Windows 7 Home premium was subject to a RAM limit of 16GB on 64-bit editions, enough for most home users.
Windows 8 (non pro, i.e. home) was limited to 128GB on 64-bit editions, which is plenty.
just did it
haven't tested any games but it was surprisingly easy
now to download all those 468 solitaires from the store
Would you be able to upgrade with a non genuine copy of windows 7?
>>343095602
not that guy, but i don't remember how i handled disabling the win10 nag (i dual-boot win7/win10)
if i have all this telemetry shit already on, is there a utility i can use to get rid of it in one go?
>>343098045
>>343097904
and I'm back. That was actually really painless. Turned off all that spyware shit during installation. Now what are some setting I should change
>I want all the apps gone off the start menu
>I want the search bar off the start menu
W10 uninstalled classicshell which sucks but everything else transferred over smoothly.
>>343101173
save this as a cmd file -> right click it -> run as administrator - it will remove any of the telemetry updates you have already installed
https://gist.github.com/xvitaly/eafa75ed2cb79b3bd4e9
>>343101117
Yes, if it's activated with DAZ loader.
>>343101328
thanks, man
>>343083616
Half of that shit you can turn off, and only applies if you are using a M$ account and not local.
Then to add you can uninstall all of it.
>>343101320
>and I'm back. That was actually really painless. Turned off all that spyware shit during installation. Now what are some setting I should change
>
>>I want all the apps gone off the start menu
>>I want the search bar off the start menu
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
This makes processing most of the privacy options either
If you'd prefer to do it manually
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/windows-10-doesnt-offer-much-privacy-by-default-heres-how-to-fix-it/
as far as shit on the menu, the searchbar on open is a default, but if you start typing something in it they'll be a cog to the left side of the monitor, you can disable cortana, web search, and search history.
as far as apps gone off the menu, right click them
there's also some additional options if you click the start menu itself -> properties
>>343101592
I disabled everything during the installation, also got rid of all the apps.
Kinda what I'm wondering. I have 8.1 on a laptop and thinking about just upgrading it to 10.
>I have pirated W8.1
>W10 icon pestering me
>Well, time to upgrade and join the botnet
>lol no, it says I get an evaluation copy
>>343102135
if it can run it sure
>>343102135
Do it, I just did.
See:
>>343098045
>>343097904
>>343101320
You can disable all that spyware shit during installation and removing apps/adds is as simple as right clicking>remove. The only things that didn't come over were speecy and classicshell.
>>343102135
Are you having problems with Windows 8 that Windows 10 fixes?
Do you need one of the new features of Windows 10?
If you answered no to both of these, don't waste your time.
>computer at work has win10 nag
>ignore it
>computer decides on its own, with no input on my end to reboot and install botnet 10 in the middle of the day
>updating takes fucking hours
>virus install is finally complete
>graphical drivers, network drivers and printer drivers all fucked, all of my software has issues of sorts
>upgrade back to Windows 7
>block everything related to Microsoft bullshit in hosts file and firewall
I can't believe Microsoft is allowed to be this aggressive with their spyware. When Windows 7 support finally ends I'll switch to Loonix.
>>343083247
>3 hours ago
A point to make here: Windows 10 when you upgrade doesn't use product keys. It effectively uses your old Windows 7 or whatever key.
>>343083808
Yeah first one applies if you use a M$ Account which you must be stupid to do so. Then 2nd one is also with a M$ Account, 3rd one is literally clickbait.
Its for about 2-4 programs the list is very very fucking small. Oh yeah also for M$ Accounts. Plus it's also talking about Windows Store Apps lmao. Please stop spreading the bullshit the media feeds you and learn to research shit yourself.
>>343085508
You can thank whoever the asshole who made the WebM was that it cut the creator out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXs0Yy5-0Y
It's Endless Jess - Updates. Please get better videos.
>>343084240
>-after all that, it's STILL not the way I want, with zero control of the start menu, near-zero control over the appearance of any ui features, and at least two dozen built-in bloatware "apps" that absolutely cannot be removed
Yeah you can delete them.
To remove any package:
>Remove-AppxPackage "PackageFamilyName"
Get package names by:
>Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers
> The one needed to delete is the PackageFamilyName
Do this all in powershell as an admin
>>343087890
If you use a Microsoft Account when signing up then they will do nothing. Just use a local account and worry about nothing.
>>343089009
Literally never had this happen and honestly I just hibernate my PC because its superior and I never have to update.
>>343088494
You're using a fucking shitty alienware with a mobile shitset of course it'll run like shit.
>>343090238
Use ImageGlass it's superior to Ifran.
>>343103012
It's also only the upgrade version which does this, and it's locked to HWID. So better keep that hardware working. I kid you can contact support to fix that.
Should I upgrade from 8.1 to 10 if I don't care much about spying? I doubt anyone cares that I jerk to latex porn, play Dota 2 and read 4chan.
anyone can tell me how to fix the sound on my laptop? Right side of headphones don't work.
>>343103272
If you use a local account you don't have to worry about anything.
All your shit will work fine.
>>343099328
Also, if you have W10 Pro, you can use regedit instead have "Notify Updates" so you can choose when/what to install. All in all, from install to drivers to making settings what I want, took about 2.5 hours. Not ideal, but could have been worse.
>>343101320
just reinstall classic shell, it's compatible with win10
Fuck it. I'm doing it tonight. The new Forza looks good and I'm not buying a Xbone.
>>343103803
Opposite for me, the only thing holding me back is that supposedly W10 works poorly or not at all with old games.
>>343097252
Because it uses precious bandwidth that you could be using to get a better ping in games senpai.
>>343103525
I'm happy with the start menu the way it is now. See no reason to reinstall it.
