Objective top tier master rank how to fix overwatch heroes notes:
Torbjorn: build sentry cool down begins when sentry is destroyed
Bastion: add a .5 second spin up time for turret
D.Va: defense matrix recycles enemy fire into armor for herself, only a small percentage ratio, not 1:1
Roadhog: hook no longer stuns for full duration. Instead the target has a chance to act during the last few animations
Winston: leap deals more damage the longer the airtime: up to 75 damage
Zenyatta: hp changed to 200 (150 shield, 50armor,). Additionally, picking up a health pack will instead transfer to your orb of harmony target
Pharah: gain 75 armor during the duration of JUSTice
>>343070101
>all those shit opinions
t. lvl10 Hanzo main
>>343070101
Hello hanzo shitter
stop posting these garbage opinions holy fuck
like every day for the past few days, fuck off
>>343070101
>Torbjorn needs a nerf
How shit exactly are you?
>>343070313
>>343070267
>buffs to Hanzo counters
>obv a Hanzo player
so do you meme spouters read anything you respond to?
>>343070101
The D.va one is cool, fuck off with the rest.
>nerfing Torb
>nerfing Bastion
>that garbage D.VA buff
>nerfing Roadhog
>BUFFING WINSTON
>buffing Pharah
Either level 20 or mentally disabled.
>>343070517
>trusting anyone on /v/ to give accurate balance patches
yeah nahhh i saw some fag say nerf winston damage LUL
>>343070101
>nerfs the least used heroes
>buffs the most used heroes
>Zenyatta at 200hp
This is how I know you're retarded.
>>343070517
It's the Hanzo players that usually have no understanding of the game. Even pro players that can play him on an exceptional level say that if they don't hit 70% of their arrows they are useless.
I would like them to make quick melee attack damage depend on a character. Some, like Genji must have higher damage.
Zenyatta: make an enemy with orb of discord better seen by allies. Maybe make him look bluer, so that everyone would attack him first
Junkrat: More shots before reloading.
> Shitters thinking Jeff is going to browse this shit hole and say "oh hey this Anon is right, let me make these changes!"
Honestly why do you people make these retarded balance threads?
Lv1 sentry is a joke, 2 hits and it's done. Even less so if torb is barely building it. Destroy it and he won't be able to make another one for a few seconds.
Learn to counter bastion, it's not that hard. Some heroes shit on him is not even funny.
Defense matrix is already OP enough as it can counter a lot of powerful attacks including ULTS. It requires no skill to use and giving her armor because she pressed E is beyond retarded.
The target already has a chance to react. It's also a hard counter for the annoying squishies so no. Literally gidgud
Zenyatta is a glass cannon, 2 hits is more than enough to deal with one of the most powerful heroes.
Learn to flank with Pharah you moron.
>>343070936
t. Jeff Kaplan
>>343070794
> TF2 demoman has only 4 shots
> You have to reload a single shot individually, taking up to 3 seconds to reload your gun
Junkart has 5 shots and his reload takes like half a second.
How bad can you get at Junkrat that you want more rounds? Try aiming instead of just spamming nades, moron.
>>343071129
t. hanzo shitter
Torb: Remove from game
Bastion: Remove from game
Solo queue games without them are just 100 times more fun.
>Torbjorn: build sentry cool down begins when sentry is destroyed
That's retarded, turrets go down in like 2 shots when they aren't molten core'd
>Bastion: add a .5 second spin up time for turret
Have you passed level 20 yet? Bastions are a joke m8
>D.Va: defense matrix recycles enemy fire into armor for herself, only a small percentage ratio, not 1:1
Not even a balancing idea, just a new gimmicky meme trick for a meme character
>Roadhog: hook no longer stuns for full duration. Instead the target has a chance to act during the last few animations
The target already does have time to react, this is stupid. Roadhog is so easy to shoot and kill once hes wasted his only good attack (the hook.)
>Winston: leap deals more damage the longer the airtime: up to 75 damage
>Zenyatta: hp changed to 200 (150 shield, 50armor,). Additionally, picking up a health pack will instead transfer to your orb of harmony target
Zenyatta is pure support, he's meant to chill in the backfield and not take damage. Messing with his health is dumb, and the orb transfer idea is dumb too.
>Pharah: gain 75 armor during the duration of JUSTice
This is a joke right?
I can't believe how fucking terrible the people are on here. It's either all bait, you're all console players, or everyone is really as bad as I once feared. If Blizzard actually took half the shit you people spew seriously the game would be unplayable.
>>343071215
why do you literally hate fun? Junkrat should at least have 10 shots before having to reload.
>>343071626
>having trouble with Toblerone
Console kids at it again.
>>343070739
You can make the discorded enemy have a huge sign that says SHOOT ME and your retarded team still won't go after it.
This shit is TF2 F2P update all over again.
> Team mates will fight the enemy being healed, not Mercy herself.
> No one gets behind Rein, everyone just gets past him because he is slow and people are desperate to get those kills
> There's an enemy sniper but better ignore it, it will go away eventually
> Last one to choose a hero goes for Hanzo instead of Rein
> Garbage team composition, 3 Genjis in a team
> Obliterate the team and the point is empty but better back off because I don't want to ruin my KS xD
> A torb, bastion, and rein are camping in a corner? Better choose mccree!
>>343071767
Either my team shits all over him or my solo Hanzos and Genjis file in one by one and get slaughtered. He brings no value to the game.
>>343070101
Mei: remove
>>343071753
Your idea of fun is pretty much having an unbalanced, broken hero?
get gud faggot
>>343070101
>nerfing torb
Found the console kid.
Here's how to fix Overwatch
>Roadhog removed from the game until Blizzard learn how to balance around lag compensation, so he stops hooking me through walls I'm 4 steps around on 40 ping.
Why didn't they just make the most generally useful and team-friendly heroes look dark and edgy instead of niche counterpicks like Genji and Reaper?
>>343070101
the game's balanced, fuck off
maybe dva needs a small buff but thats it
>>343071858
Then your retarded team is the problem, not torb.
>>343071932
>spot the reaper
explosions are fun, more explosions = more fun
>>343070101
bastion, dva, winston are okay.
you're obviously a shitter considering everything else
>>343071294
pssh, my arrows always finds its mark
>>343072009
You're not wrong, but it's much more frustrating. It's actually kind of fun to fight a losing battle against most heroes, but not the turret fags.
>>343071976
The Hook is hitscan despite having an animation, m8. It has nothing to do with lag.
If the crosshair is on you and he hits that shift button, you can bet your ass you can be on the moon and he will still hook you.
>Apes like OP are out there thinking ideas like "make torb turret build CD sooner HURRRR" do anything
Please never design a game
>>343072021
Roadhog, actually. You can have 20 bombs and I still shit on you.
> more explosions = more fun
You literally have unlimited ammo, fucktard.
>>343071858
>complain about enemy team comp
>"my solo Hanzos and Genjis file in one by one"
Your aiming your blame in the wrong direction and he adds value to the game for those who've studied maps better than others.
Finding that sweet spot to stick a turret that helps wipe the enemy team before they can even see it is incredible.
>>343072179
>losing battle against turret fags ever
that went fast
>>343072195
>hook is hitscan
L O L
god fucking damn /v/ is so dumb
>>343071858
then fucking kill the turret
toblerone's turret sucks literal shit and anybody who has trouble with it is retarded.
>>343072505
why do people watch mobas anyway? and isn't hearthstone an electronic card game?
>>343072195
Post an official source on the hook being hitscan
>>343072665
There isn't one, he's a stupid cunt just like all of the stupid fucking redditors who say the same thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jSeVvgNZU
>>343072442
>There's a cluster of torbs and their turrets
>These idiots were actually close to one another
> Riptire their shit
> Alright we got this, team, time to move on
> We fucking lose because my retarded team is too scared there are turrets there and they are waiting for someone to clear them
I am not much of a competitive guy but for fucks sake I hope in comp mode there will be more competent people.
>>343072505
What was? The fact that Blizzard has two games as the top most watched streams?
>>343072195
>If the crosshair is on you and he hits that shift button, you can bet your ass you can be on the moon and he will still hook you.
But that's false, you can check it in the training area easily
>>343072380
A character that shits all over low skill solo queuers and is completely useless in high tier play probably shouldn't even be in the game.
>>343072373
Are you that Roadhog that complained about my Junkrat two nights ago because he couldnt win on attack at Kings Row? Holy shit man let it go.
Indirect fire + granade spam is THE way to play junkrat.
>>343072592
>torb stack in hanamura
>retards on team
just fucking euthanize me
>>343072930
If they're going to meme stack torb on hanamura they should at least bring a mei and symmetra
>>343072830
you're fucking retarded
>>343072195
It's not hitscan, the actual hook projectile is slightly ahead of the one you see.
>>343072719
>You can clearly see he pressed the button before the robot was on the crosshair
>>343073092
That would imply it's not hitscan
>>343073092
exactly dumbass
Overwatch is literally call of duty advanced warfare the cartoon. You've been scammed and turned casual sweetheart
>>343072830
Every character shits all over low skill solo queuers. That the point of having low skill.
>>343073225
That's some weak b8
>>343070101
not this pasta again
anon try harder please
>>343072857
The fuck are you talking about? I never talk during matches.
You probably found a retarded roadhog.
The only way I've seen Junkrats kill me it's with the tire.
There was some moron the other day throwing the tire directly at me, ignoring everyone else because he was too pissed he couldn't kill me.
That was probably you.
>>343070101
D.VA seems a little OP
roadhog hook duration was increased because everyone with a dash ability could escape him before he could shoot them so no.
winston leap is a means to get somewhere, not deal damage.
>>343073225
shit man I was! you GOT ME!
fuck guys im sorry i started posting itt, I need to go uninstall and refund
>>343073261
The turret classes require no skill and demolish uncoordinated teams. At least if I lose to something else it has the potential to be impressive. I got my shit kicked in by a Winston duo and it was actually a fun fight that didn't wreck the flow of the game.
>>343073187
>>343073218
I am not arguing against it, morons.
>>343073542
then why are you replying dipshit
These are the only changes that need to be implemented
Road hog: just fix the hooks through walls. It's really frustrating no matter who you are
Hanzo: draw time slightly increased for full power
Zenyatta needs some kind of buff, either in healing or survivability. His healing is so small you might as well have a soldier instead
Honestly that's it. Everyone feels pretty balanced now
The only things I hate are genji, but his annoyance is how his kit is set up and he's countered by mei and Winston.
>>343070101
>Objective top tier master rank how to fix overwatch heroes notes:
>Delete the game from existence
>>343073542
>>343073416
Same guy.
>>343073479
>The turret classes require no skill and demolish uncoordinated teams
You don't need coordination to kill turrets, just take sniper / junkrat and solo destroy them.
Two weeks ago I came to /v/ and predicted that, within the month, more changes would be made to Overwatch because its players STILL get stumped by a single asset that a character has. Not sure if console players are really that retarded, but they certainly fucked up, and now Blizzard is pampering them.
This game isn't in open beta, like Paragon, where routine changes to players are deemed acceptable -- before the game is completed.
I've always liked Blizzard but they really fucked up with this. They neutered their characters when players said they didn't like one thing about them. It really undermines their own integrity as game developers.
reminder that they nerfed tjorb on console but not on PC because they legitimately can't aim as well with a controller
the fact that you are also complaining about tjorb says a lot
>>343072857
You're half right. If you can't hit someone directly with a grenade, just stop playing junket. Obviously your best option is area denial, but you need to be able to shit on any particular target at any given time.
Your only troubles should be phara and zarya, the latter of which you can beat by waiting for the shield if you have time
>>343070101
>Pharah: gain 75 armor during the duration of JUSTice
I play Pharah more than any other hero by far, and it blows my mind that there are still so many shitters that think her ult needs a buff. If you can see her before she pops her ult, she deserves to die.
>>343073825
>Valve makes balances after years
>this is okay
>Blizz makes balances after weeks
>this is not okay
>>343074035
And then her ult is strong enough that even if she dies it's usually worth it.
>>343073875
At 200 HP I find that I can help my team a lot more by hiding behind cover and lobbing grenades in the general direction of the enemy team, trying to hit someone directly is being engaged in a 1 v 1, which isn't what Junkrat wants to do (Since everyone can get direct hits from ambushes). Specially since I never play him on attack unless its KotH.
>>343070101
All of these points can be fixed in game right now by you getting gud. There is no need to change anything.
>>343074048
And you know how each of these balance patches break the game update after update?
It took Valve what? like 5 years to nerf the demo and they just reverted it back because so many people bitched about it?
Demoknight used to be fun but now is a joke as well. My problem is not that they nerfed him, it's the fact that they took years to do so.
Let people learn to deal with the current situation and adapt instead of changing every single damn detail that gets you nowhere.
>>343074048
Why did you bring up Valve? I'm not discussing Valve.
>>343070101
>Roadhog: the only thing that made him remotely decont is now completely useless
>>343070471
torbs is insane
I just drop my turret and run around with my shotgun, making it rain with armor, team kills everywhere
>>343070101
The only reasonable nerf at the moment is toblerone on consoles. Playing against a dwarf team is just fucking misery. It's so goddamn easy you'll win against all but the best of teams. Torb is just fucking OP as hell.
>get turret set up in decent spot
>run around with your very powerful shotgun/rifle
>throw armor out constantly
>go beat off to your turret occasionally
>enemy team pushing? press q to cancel
rinse, repeat
>>343072505
>watching people play games
>streamers and let's players
holy fuck I do not understand this meme
Why do people want to buff Pharah's ult? It's already decent, and basically guarantees at least one kill every time, unlike something like D.va's ult.
You're not supposed to use it on the entire spread out enemy team when there is a S76 and a Widow shooting at you. If there's someone who can easily kill you when you ult, don't use it. You don't use Junkrat's ult when there are people right next to you, do you?
Unless the enemy team is extremely clumped up or you happen to have a Zarya ready to barrier you, or Lucio's ult, you shouldn't be using it on the entire team. If you find 2 people right next to each other, that's good enough. Take out the more threatening enemy first (S76, Widow, Hanzo, McCree, for example), and then the other people.
>>343074148
You're far more helpful if you can stop would-be assassin's and take out support units.
Junkrat can be played from any angle. He's as good on offense as he is defense
>>343070101
>hook no longer stuns for full duration. Instead the target has a chance to act during the last few animations
Dumbest shit I've heard. This would mean that in most scenarios successful hooks would be lethal for Roadhog. Literally kills the entire character.
>>343070101
I never read any of these threads or anything posted in them.
I'd just like to tell you you're a faggot and you should kill yourself.
>>343079361
> He's as good on offense as he is defense
> No patch to remove microtransations.
