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HEY NOW- What the fuck are they doing with Andromeda? Discuss?
THROW IT
IN THE TRASH
muh reel wimmins
Who cares, though? Asari aren't all that sexy anyway. Those heads would freak me out, not in the good way.
Now if they make a fat Quarian girl, I'm starting a riot. Don't fuck with those perfect hips.
>>343039940
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
>>343041601
Don't asari mind control people to find them pretty or some shit?
>>343039940
SOMEBODY
But guys this is a different galaxy right? Maybe this is a different type of Asari? Different species?
>>343039940
turning it into a tumblr feminists shit taking place in space.
>>343042721
How so?
She doesn't even look that bad. Just /v/ over reacting because she doesn't look like Liara. I've seen uglier Asari in ME2 and 3.
>>343041849
Never confirmed, but as they're biologically designed to favour interracial breeding and they're naturally biotic and everyone tolerates a race of women enough to fuck a large amount of them it would explain certain things.
All you have is a scene of a bunch of drunken lads of seperate races each saying that the asari looks like their own race.
They have weird mindsex which prompts biotic activity into conception. They're technically a race of clones with a high mutation rate rather than two cellular bodies contributing genes. With said mutation prompted differently depending on if they fuck a quarian or a dog.
So rather than being tricked into thinking that they're pretty, which is desirable; the main component is that they seem similar so you can empathize with them.
>>343042921
I don't think it's people so much thinking that she looks bad. It's more that she looks to align towards the general tranny appearance. And thus they dislike it as a potential example of Bioware's hyper-liberal lunacy, and the possibility that a somewhat interesting race with alien sexual classification and sexuality to be an interesting alternative to normal human pairings as you would expect in a sci fi setting as a part of worldbuilding will be turned into a somewhat interesting race with alien sexual classification and sexuality to be an interesting alternative to normal human pairings as you would expect in a sci fi setting for SJW pandering reasons.
>>343043251
So they do manipulate the minds of other species.
>>343043251
This is kind of invalidated by the fact that asari husks exist and they look exactly like the asari you see as the player, only with obvious reaper invasive surgery and pregnant-looking belly.
Those drunk lads talking is more of an in-joke and you're full of shit, fampai.
>>343043786
It is a possibility, they wouldn't be the only race in the setting to do it.
>>343043962
I opened my post with 'never confirmed' familia.
It's a hypothesis made because some people care about the setting a lot and like any product of the human mind people value their own interpretation of it over uniquely the established fact.
It's a setting where space magic that doesn't make any sense exists so it isn't an impossibility. Husks specifically retain characteristics pertaining to their race of origin, if their mindwarping ability were to exist, it would probably be ingrained enough to carry into husk-status along with their other racial specific abilities.
I like most people think it's a joking little hypothetical, but the poster I was replying to didn't seem to understand the origin of the theory and so I explained it to him.
>>343039940
All bullshit aside here we are less than a year away from release and we get almost no gameplay.
What are they doing?
Clearly the rumors are true and its a shitshow over at bioware. They don't know what they are doing other that scrambling to meet the release deadline.
>>343047136
We didn't see too much of DA:I did we? Bethesda titles don't as well.
All are shit.
We saw a lot of watch dogs gameplay prior to release. And that was shit too.
You really can't tell much from lack of pre-release news these days. It varies too much.
I'd expect shit though yeah. For different reasons.
>>343047274
The problem is this isn't a game they can fuck around with until release.
ME3 has a terrible reputation and most old fans are still skeptical. The PR team should be out front every few weeks, at this point, with developer diaries explaining the vision behind why these asshole decided to resurrect a dead franchise.
Not saying we need need big spoilers and shit but this isn't the kind of game they can be silent on until a week before release.
She looks a lot nicer without so big of a shit smear over here eyes
source: 40 BILLION years in Gimp
What did asari evolve from? How did they breed before going into space?
>>343047965
Man jaw
>>343047965
i like her face. looks like a nice and funny character
not everything needs to be sexy
>>343047975
They were bioengineered to defeat the reapers.
>>343048043
>implying
>>343047965
>Asari
>Eyebrows
Mass Effect 1/2/3 wasn't that long ago, how is Bioware already forgetting shit?
>>343048154
The whole point of the asari is to have bitches who don't look like a boot.
>>343048265
>you will never be a walrus
>>343048432
That's a seal you fucking gobshite
>>343048515
And?
>>343047864
They didn't do too much presenting DA:I beyond just showing that it wasn't DA2, and DA2 was a unique level of lazy trash of all their games. ME3 was shit but it wasn't lazy.
The negative reaction to ME3 wasn't as significant as most communication channels would make out. For the audience still having nightmares about being offered three different T-shirts of different colours to wear then their marketing approach is just:
>They're pissed and gone forever
or
>We've made a point of strongly seperating from the story of Shepard, that'll be enough for the skeptics. If they still care this much then they'll probably just buy the next game out of hunger for the franchise in general, past mistakes relatively forgotten
Outside of that it's still a fairly popular franchise. ME3 didn't help but it didn't really hurt too badly either.
>>343047975
They can fuck one another perfectly well, they just have fewer evolutionary leaps and bounds that way.
As for really early basic evolution, perhaps they have other non-sapient life on their planet that breeds in a similar way and they bestialitied their way to sapience.
>>343048154
What it mostly hinges on is how it compares to other faces. Whether it'll be received as just one face with character among many or that one single character that they designed to be different from the rest of the attractive cast to the point of looking straight up uncanny.
>>343048154
>Every Asari ever shown was relatively attractive
>Next gen Asari look like trannies
That's the thing, Asari DO need to be sexy, it's the only thing that distinguishes them from humans and their most emphasized trait. It's how they procreate for fuck's sake, they need to be attractive to a wide variety of species.
>>343047965
The warpaint makes her look cute though
>>343048826
>Facial marking are apparently a really big fucking deal in asari culture
>better just smear this shit on my face.
>>343047965
She looks like CWC for fucks sake
>>343039940
You have to admit that the way Asari were designed before was basically misogynist pandering.
So now every Asari isn't going to look like fapbait. So what?
>>343048826
The world must seem beautiful for you, that you have such low standards.
Who cares?
Mass Effect 2 was the only ok game anyway.
The first was shit, the third was shit and Andromeda will be shit, nothing to get mad about.
>>343048961
It's the scifi equivalent of the ugly Welsh chav knife ear.
>>343049089
>misogynist
There are some words you just can't use if you want your bait to work, this is one of them. Apply yourself and be more subtle next time.
>>343048282
Perhaps originally, from a marketing perspective.
They've evolved past that I feel.
And if you're referring to the taking on desirable appearances through telepathy, that's already been discussed in this thread, to the general consensus that it is hardly confirmed not would it be a positive thing to design a race's appearance so blandly.
>>343048735
humans need certain social behaviors and biological functions to survive and procreate.
Some don't get them, and they don't procreate.
We're looking at one character here rather than the entire Asari cast of the game.
You are also forgetting nu-bioware's SJW fascinations.
There can be an colossally fat africanoid looking asari that all the human women lust over because it panders to the bodypositives and the racemixers and so on.
>>343049089
Really pathetic bait. Here's your you. You are a giant faggot and should kill yourself.
>>343048715
>ME3 didn't help but it didn't really hurt too badly either.
Either you're new or some kike shilling for Bioware. Me3 was one of the biggest shitstorms ever.
Yes it hurt. It hurt bad. and they've never addressed it. Fair enough, they want to ignore that train wreck but they can't just keep on going as if their last game wasn't shit.
People are skeptical of Andromeda and bioware is doing nothing to assuage the doubts that this is some soulless cash grab.
>>343039940
>>343049405
>>343049405
What are you saying? You didn't like Nu trans Zan?
>>343049523
You mean BioWare are doing this shit as comedy?
>>343049582
Comedy or gross incompetence. I hope for the former.
>>343049491
What's his name?
>>343047965
She looks even worse.
>>343048162
What?
>>343039940
>>343040604
>>343047965
FUCKKK SHE'S SO UGLY STOP POSTING HER PLEASE FUCK
>>343049274
I was a bioware fan for quite awhile. My last game from them was Mass Effect 2. I saw the first released visual content teasing Dragon Age 2 and I knew from that moment they had caught EAIDS. Never bought another product from them since.
I understand how massive the ME3 shitstorm was in volume, I know a lot of people who are fans of the series. Most cared, not all did. Those who didn't are representative of what I assume to be the general audience. Of those who cared, most stomached it and bought DA:I, and plan to buy Andromeda. They don't have incredibly high expectations, but you don't need people to have high expectations to buy your game. They just need okay expectations. That's fairly easy for bioware to achieve.
They can indeed keep going on like their last game was shit. In the world of AAA aaanything can happen. Or perhaps more accurately: Nothing can. Nothing really changes. There isn't much of a need to react to your audience because a large portion of them, far larger than what your whip cracking publisher would deem acceptable is content with mediocrity.
Yes, they need to show us a literal second coming to redeem their franchise to some people after Mass Effect 3. Whether or not they need to regain that audience is another issue entirely, and from a publishing standpoint, the only one that really matters to those making the decisions; they do not.
>>343049491
>>343048162
Not completely. They were already an existing species, it was just that the Protheians gave them a bit of an upgrade. And then that one Prothian in ME3 kept shit talking Liara at that one part.
>>343043652
I personally don't like it because on the smug side smirk that is typically over-used by Dreamworks animators.
So, thinking realistically, why did that Asari model have eyebrows?
Did the use a pre-existing face texture from some human thing? Was it a mock-up, and making her Asari was like a last minute deal for the presentation?
>>343040604
Those...eyebrows.
>>343049862
The hate for the ME3 ending is way overstated. I and many others are excited about Andromeda because the rest of ME3 was a big step up from ME2.
>>343048043
you new to thisshitfranchise?
>>343048265
lol the camera man freaks out too?
If what they are SAYING about Andromeda is even partially true, and that's a big if, then I intend to get it.
The bigger focus on planet exploration, a better dialogue/choice/negotiation system, and a new setting and story separated from the Reapers, are all good in my book.
But now it's the waiting game to see how much they fuck up on what they've said.
>>343039940
am i the only one who finds this character model attractive?
I don't know what it is about it...
>>343050602
>bigger focus on exploration
It means they're trying to be Skyrim and looking at Dragon Age Inquisition it's going to suck.
>>343039940
If they're gonna redo ME why not go all out? I'd love to play a game in the ME universe with an Alien aesthetic and no Reapers.
>>343048265
Since the models and textures are higher definition it means they need to have eyebrows or they'll look super weird.
>>343050789
God forbid aliens look strange.
>>343050372
As I said, I haven't played ME3; but I've talked about it with those who have for ages.
You're right on a basic level, but from what I've heard; most of the improvements are fairly obvious design decisions. ME3 is a functionally better game, but it's only at the level that it would be extremely jarring if they didn't improve it as they have done.
I'm mostly excited about the visuals of Andromeda. Frostbite looks and sounds absolutely amazing. I expect another subpar Mass Effect game, but I may break my fast and pirate Andromeda anyway just for the potential spectacle of the thing.
>>343050704
I'm basing it on the brief shot of the mako/whatever it's called this game driving around on some desert planet. Reminded me of ME1, as I kind of enjoyed the planet exploration there. So if it's improved from that, and fleshed out at all, then I'll be happy.
>>343049901
Taking Javik and Liara to the Asari homeworld was the high point of ME3.
>>343050735
That would require creativity and originality.
It's telling that even David Gaider has left Bioware. My regret is that Patrick Weekes seems to be intent on being stuck on a sinking ship. He has talent that should not be wasted.
>>343049862
Fair enough.
I would be interested to see what makes them think that from a publishing standpoint they don't need old skeptical fans. Clearly they haven't shown anything to wow new audiences so far.
My guess is major cutbacks on promised features for greater emphasis on multiplayer but we don't really know because here we are 8-9 months out with nothing more than a tech demo to speculate on.
>>343052409
EA is the driving force here. It's worth keeping in mind that Bioware effectively does not exist. Any identity as Bioware is only due to the whim of EA corporate.
>>343049705
Dr. Steve Brule?
>>343052409
It's a known franchise that people like overall, despite a few blunders. They communicate story and roleplay and sci-fi adventure and exploration and graphics and yeah I guess more of that co-op multiplayer.
Its identity as a franchise has some sway over audiences. It will pull in many, and it will disqualify some of those dissatisfied with it. But games are ultimately a product independent of their franchise. So are films. Books sometimes should be and sometimes should not be and are either some of the time.
Your fans decide your franchise's direction in different ways. Different interactions with them mean different things. Maybe WoW would not have gotten off the ground without the Warcraft 3 audience, maybe it would have. Past a point it certainly transcended it, and the majority of your WoW players were not War3 players.
Would have they made a Warcraft film if WoW wasn't the cultural icon it was today? Probably. Would it have been as high budget as it was? Goodness no.
From this you might say that they wouldn't have the money to invest in it either way. This could be true, or it could not. Speaking hypothetically, there was a judgement made whether or not to make the Warcraft film with the budget it received. It was based on the potential for it to sell. WoW is fucking dead, but they published the film now. If they waited longer, the far larger movie going audience may forget the noise coming from the WoW player rooms and it could have had less pull. That would have also been considered. Perhaps the film had been three quarters done for years now and they felt the audience declining with every passing day. Another consideration.
I'm ranting like a lunatic here and I've probably drifted really far off topic.
I'll post a TL;DR but I can't fit it in this post anymore.
>>343039940
>>343053551
To lay things out from simple beginnings:
You have the population of people who can afford gaming devices and games.
You have those who play games and those who don't.
You are not pushing a gimmick that appears to 'redefine' the entire entertainment medium. You are not pushing wagglan controllers or a motion-sickness inducing low resolution display mask.
The potential audience you can reach outside of those already playing games is negligible. You can thus ignore it.
There is also the layer of attracting people with previous generation hardware, which is less negligible but still a very small percentage of the picture.
So your potential audience is those who play games and have the hardware to run your game in particular. You go around and ask a member of that population: Here is my game, it looks like this. It plays like this. It is the fourth installment but a reboot/disconnected sequel. It has battletoads and space gypsies and used to have robot lobsters. Story and player choice are important. There is coop. Would you be interested in buying this product?
There are then those who are interested, and those who are clearly not.
Down to the level that we're discussing, within the interested audience you have all of your franchise's fans who are eligible for purchase.
You then ask the population: "What were your thoughts on the previous game in the series?"
A fair number of this audience only played Mass Effect 3. They probably don't recognize the game as being complete shit. They're still eligible for 'just another mass effect thing'.
Others played all the games. Some of them find no fault in Mass Effect 3, for some reason. They are obviously eligible to purchase 'just another mass effect thing'.
Some are upset at Bioware's handling of the franchise under modern EA direction.
These are still all eligible customers.
The fraction that will swear off 'just another mass effect thing™' entirely out of this audience is the minority of the minority.
>>343054236
Fuck I said TL;DR
I lied. I'm a terrible human being.
>>343039940
Gary Coleman
>>343039940
>>343040604
Why did Bioware put Lena Dunham in my video games?
>>343039940
IT IS ME SHREK
No EDI no buy
>>343049491
kek'd
