What kind of build should I run for my first playthrough of this game?
Sorcery or Quality build?
>dsii
Dark Souls II is underrated.
Best gameplay of all the Souls.
If only the creatures were more creative it'd be the best overall.
Quality for optimal first experience, always
Not sure why DS2 gets all the hate it does. I'm currently playing through it and its fun, just not as challenging as 1. The Iron Keep is the only wall I've hit so far.
>>343030436
maybe if the lighting was shit
maybe if the hitboxes weren't shit
maybe if soul memory didn't exist
>>343030436
if they just used the hand crafted animations and made more it would probably be the best. why did they go with that nasty mo-cap shit, everything feels off.
>>343030479
>>343030436
gameplay and pvp are both excellent
it just loses a lot of points because the story blows and it really has nothing to do with dark souls 1's story
dick-ass theif build
>>343030310
>DaS2
>When the superior 3 exists
>>343030310
strength
assuming nothing's changed, blunt weapons like maces were always broken since most enemies in the game are dudes in armor weak to blunt. A normal club scales A in strength and though short, has a better moveset than the normal mace.
I'd recommend you don't play it to begin with.
>shit story
>shit areas
>nothing interesting to find through exploration
>forgettable NPCs and bosses
>unforgivably bland enemy design
>encounters consist of "aggro 6+ enemies every 10 steps"
It's garbo.
>>343030571
>>343030436
>>343030571
DaS II might be the best of the games.
It actually tried having its own story instead of going Star Wars: Episode VII on DaS I and it had a lot of mechanical changes that made it harder.
SotFS was actually really informative in terms of lore but nobody paid attention to it I guess.
"Shockwaves" I think were people getting hit before i-frames started from their initial position due to roll mechanics.
>>343030623
>implying DS3 is any good
DS2>DS1>>>DS3
>>343030310
Str+maces for pve pwnage
Magic and/or dual-wielding for fun.
>>343030623
not that guy, but I'm waiting for Scholar of the Second Sin edition before playing
>>343030623
>DS3
>literally unfinished and broken game
>superior
lol ok
>>343030310
Oh also, if you go sorcery build then enjoy spamming dark orb for 90% of the game because nothing else has enough casts without also being shit for a long time
>>343030310
The uninstall build, because Dark Souls 2 is LITERALLY the worst game of all time and has no redeeming features whatsoever. Why you would subject yourself to playing something so bad that it was banned in dozens of countries I don't know. Do you want to vomit away your guts? Because that's what will happen. Just go eat some roadkill after shitting on it. That's a better experience than Dark Souls 2.
>>343030894
DaS>DaSIII=Demon's>DaSII>Bloodborne
>>343030310
>le sorcery is hard and weak
don't listen to these people. Quality is probably the easiest your first time through for sure, but sorcery is fine in the beginning. Pure faith caster is really the only difficult one early on but there is no build that can't go with an easy mode RAW ASS.
Back to sorcery, the problem is 99% of people think being at range in dark souls means you don't have to wait for openings. They expect spells to blow the fuck out of everything right as they start the game. They will later, when the game becomes a lock on simulator for pure casters.
>>343031063
>DaS3 better than Demon"s
You're just memeposting now, summerfriend
>>343031063
>I don't have a PS4
Way to make it obvious. Everyone agrees that BB is the greatest thing From has ever done, and the greatest game of the generation at least.
>>343031189
>RAW ASS
That's 3. In 2 you can go raw bluemoon really early, and then once you get to shaded woods a raw BSS is actually the most damaging rapier in the game at the cost of no counter bonus, assuming patches didn't change anything.
>>343030623
>no poise after like 3 months
>has a poise stat, even a fucking ring
until it gets fixed I'm not touching it
>>343031292
Please don't shitpost.
>>343031448
How is that shitposting? He doesn't have a PS4, since if he did he'd rate BB as the best of the best like everyone else that has played it.
Max STR
>>343031576
I played BB and would put it behind DaS and barely ahead of DaS II.
It has very little build variety and it's pretty short.
>>343030961
The way to play a magic build is to infuse a melee weapon with your favorite color, allowing it to scale with your caster stat. The difference is that you have a extra toolbox of spells for range, area attacks, buffs and utility.
>le dark souls 2 is good meme
>>343031776
>I never played it
>>343031292
>>343031576
Nah, I played the shit out of it on release. It was fun as fuck, but nowhere near as good as the actual souls games. The enemy designs were maybe the only improvement, I didn't really like any of the weapons though and none of the armor sets looked very good. There was a clear few which looked the best and literally everyone online was wearing them. I did like the increased movement speed, but I like feeling like a Knight on a Quest and that game just didn't do it for me. Which is fine, because I didn't expect it to be as good as the main series.
>>343031208
It's an equals dumbass. As in they're just as good as each other. But you're probably right, Demon's should be above III now that I think about it more.
>>343031676
This. Why was Bloodborne so fucking short? I wasn't expecting a 20 hour games. Is the DLC any good?
>>343031776
Looking back on it, it was shit. I'm currently playing through it again and it's not as bad as I remember it being.
>>343031676
>>343032060
>I didn't play the game, just looked up a few things on the wiki so I can make it sound like I did
FTFY
>>343032162
>I'm so insecure that I can't stand when people don't like the same things as me
2/10 got me to respond
>>343032060
>is the dlc any good?
It contains the hardest boss/bosses in Bloodborne and maybe the Souls series in general.
>>343032162
I've beaten the fucking game twice, once with the Threaded Cane and once with the Hunter's Axe. Dark Souls I was a better and more varied game for a plethora of reasons.
>>343031698
>magic build
>still use melee weapons
the fuck is the point then
You may as well just use a raw weapon in that case given how good a raw bluemoon is.
I've done a pure caster sorcery build before, the tactic is just spam dark orb since it's the one spell that gets the most casts and also staggers enemies. Soul arrows don't cut it. Once you get the staff of wisdom then you respec, doing it any other way was just torture.
>>343032060
The DLC is good but the only problem it fixes is the weapon variety. The new areas areas are nice but it's not worth $20 if you didn't care for Bloodborne in the first place.
>>343031953
But I did, I wasted 50 dollars on that Nintendo 64 clunky ass shit
I went with sorcery. Basically you can look forward to working your way through very slowly, clearing enemies with weak spells that run out pretty fast.
Then I went with a Dex build, which was better, but pouring points into ADP for good agility was important since I knew rolling and animation speed was key.
By the end nearVelstadtI tried clubs, particularly the large wooden one I'd been lugging around. Turns out so many things are smashable. Enemies I had spent time dancing around or whittling with poison arrows and pyro would be crushed in one to four shots.
So, sorcery is okay, but weak, especially early on.
Dex is fun, but you need to learn to watch your timing on things and mind that agility (also poison arrows are your friend).
And large clubs are OP.
All of this is strictly PvE. I did little PVP because lag.
>>343032424
>using the two most boring weapons
>didnt make a blt or arc build
>waah this game sucks!
>>343030310
Quality gives you the largest variety of weapons to choose from.
that way once you respec or start a new character, you have a good idea of what you like and don't like.
>>343032162
You know what? It's sounding more and more like you didn't play the actual souls games and have only played Bloodborne. Trying to justify your purchase, huh bud? Face it asswipe, Bloodborne, while good, doesn't hold a candle to souls.
I'd post a picture of my play time, but I can't be bothered going through all that again for a shitposter like you.
>>343032424
>Dark Souls
>Varied
Show me your Dark Souls gameplay hours and tell me which one has more replay value.
>>343032509
The game is centered around melee combat. The enemies in the dlcs even have an extra layer of resistances against casted spells.
The infusion system allows you to be effective in melee combat, so you might as well use that to supplement your spells. Spamming soul arrows is just stupid.
>souls
>6 attacks
>bloodborne
>16-20 attacks
>>343032424
Not tryong to be a Bloodborne falsflager shitposter, but every single weapon in bloodborne plays different, and offers a unique playstyle. You can play the game 26 times and have it play different each time. While Dark Souls has hundreds of weapons, a lot of them are very similar to each other ir straight up useless.
Again, Dark Souls still has way more weapons, but you're underplaying Bloodborne's replay value for lack of experience.
>>343033334
you forgot to mention that even a single Bloodborne weapon usually contains two distinct movesets, like GS and straight sword or mace and halberd that you can fluidly swap between, while two Dark Souls weapons might differ by just a single move (or not at all outside of stats)
>>343033208
This
Moves Dark Souls 3 weapons don't have:
>running R2's
>backstep R2's
>transform attack
>untransform attack
>L2's
>transform + R1's
>untransform + R1's
>dash backwards R1's
>dash sideways R1's
>charge attack r2 followups
Meanwhile Dark Souls 3's running R2's are the same as a jumping attack andthe back step r1's are the same as the rubbing r1's.
>>343033456
Trick weapons are cool but please don't try to suggest that a weapon is 2 weapons simply because the two handed version isn't the same exact shit.
>>343033024
He's right though.
Dark Souls II, III and even I has a ton more weapon and armor sets than Bloodborne. Nice three fucking characters. I have 5+ in every souls game because there's so many ways to level and kit out your guy, saying Bloodborne has more build variety is literal insanity.
Also you're a redditor, so get the fuck out.
>>343030903
I hated it so much thatI decided on a whim to use maces for my first run of the game and I though "Oh man, these a good but I want to use another weapon." Too fucking bad literally no other weapons are good for pve damage output, everything in this game was balanced towards pvp. fuck that gay shit.
>>343033845
Not him but:
>Ludwig's holy blade: straight sword + great sword
>Bloodletter: mace + giant flail
>Amygdala's arm: hammer + whatever the fuck you would call that transformed mode (actually think thisnis the most out there weapon from has created)
>Simon's bow blade: flamberge + bow
>Cane: beating stick + whip
>Whirligig: mace + pizza cutter saw
>Church pick: sword + war pick
>Kirkhammer: sword + hammer
>Holy Moonlight sword: claymore + greatsword
>Burial blade: blade + scythe
>>343033895
Nice job ignoring the four posts proving that BB has more variety than any Souls game because every weapon is totally unique and has multiple movesets.
Sorry but BB literally shits all over any Souls game. But you'd agree if you'd actually played it.
>>343033895
pshh, anon...S73V3=steve, it's not a special snowflake username, it's just a L33t way of spelling a common name
The only things I like DS 2 more than 3 is:
>Better armor for fashion
>Reinforcing shields raises defense stats
>Left hand weapons has their full move sets, no one fucking blocks with a left hand weapon FROM
>Powerstancing
>>343031391
Turns out people finally found out what Poise does.
There is a Poise degradation stat in the game that is exceptionally low on most weapons and only high (like 35) on Gundyr's Halberd.
Poise allows you to finish hyper armor animations. That's it. And if you have <35, you will not be able to complete the animation if facing a Gundyr's Halberd user. If you have 0 Poise and a Heavy Weapon that has Hyper frames, even an Estoc will break you every time even within a tenth of a second of you landing the blow.
It's infinitely more useless, but it does in-fact do something.
>>343033845
>>343034367
BTFO
>>343033895
>literally looked up s73v3 a.k.a. Steven
>>343034504
t-thanks anon,I might just kill myself now
mfw dark souls was probably pitched way back in the 90's but didn't get a game until much later.
>>343034637
Kek powerstancing
>Straight sword in left
>Ice rapier in right
>Gay ass far reach shabby attack
>Gay ass far reach 180 deg swipe
>Gay ass gimmick R2 projectile
>>343033024
I have 500 hours in DaS I and mayyybe 40 in Bloodborne.
>>343034651
>wearing huge rocks on your body doesn't matter unless you're attacking
Thanks, FROM.
>>343030310
Gonna do a DS3 run, is this weapon worth using?
>>343036770
That's give or take my thoughts on the matter, yeah.
>>343037248
Just go a Knight so you have the best stat-line to try out most weapons until you find something you like and then use Rosaria's rebirth to make it efficient.
>>343037248
I found it great, used it almost my entire first playthrough. Pretty good DEX scaling + bonus damage to hollows. And that fucking 2handed moveset oh god
>>343037248
Just use a claymore.
>>343030310
>Sorcery or Quality build?
Neither. Str is the best way to play.
>>343035071
You can still do that in three faggot.
I didn't even mention Ice Rapier, nor am I defending it.
I'm talking about double great hammer attacks. Able to powerstance even if it's a different weapon in the same weapon class.
>>343030310
I'm playing through Dark Souls for the very first time and enjoying it and I've heard that this one sucked. Should I skip it and just get 3 or is the whole trilogy worth playing?
>>343030880
(You)
>>343037248
If you're doing no magic build, pick Knight class.
Quality builds are my favorite out of all the builds I have.
You only need luck stat if you're doing a bleed or dex build.
>>343030310
>Sorcery or Quality build?
Go str/vgr dude.
>>343037901
Whole trilogy
>>343038937
Are you playing on a Nintendo DS?
>>343039091
>Are you playing on a Nintendo DS?
No, i am playing on my phone,twinking left and right with my 128k SM build.
It is so funny to watch people getting oneshot or twoshot.
>>343030880
>DaS2 babbies actually believe this
>>343030502
>maybe if the hitboxes weren't shit
Hitboxes are shit in every souls game, stop parroting shit about games you've never played.
>>343039209
>meme fists build
>not just parring the invader to death
git good
>>343039468
That's maldron the cheating assassin, an npc invader.
Notice he gets knocked off a platform which would instantly kill a player character.
Like every enemy in dark souls 2 he has an absurd amount of tracking, health and the ability to animation cancel attacks into rolls
DaS2 fags will defend this though
>>343030310
what is fun about going sorcery?
I did it for my playthrough in DeS and cheesed the game. Then immediately went back, did a quality build and had 10x as much fun.
>>343040068
I knocked him off the chain
stop acting like glitches represent the actual game
>>343040319
Confirmed full of shit. If you load up Sotfs right now the black phantoms still have cheated health, tracking and the ability to animation cancel. They can literally 360 mid air with a jump attack to catch you mid roll.
>BUT ITSS OKAY THEY HAVE INFINITE STAMINA GUYS DARK SOULS 2 IS THE BEST GAME FROM SOFT HAS EVER MADE
>>343040832
still not as bad as Burger King or Scirvir
>>343040832
I knocked him off the chain as well.
But feel free to spazz out more about how you lost to a fucking npc lol.
>Start a DS1 playthrough on "reset day"
>Realize that most large bosses deal "shockwave damage" if their weapons miss you but you are still fairly close
>Wonder why everyone complained about that in DS2 but not DS1
>>343041175
because ADP and broken rolls got memed into "shockwaves"
>>343041175
Remember, /v/ thinks bloodborne is the best game in existence, next to maybe splatoon or overwatch.
I'll never understand why people go to /v/ for info or honest opinions.
majula theme > firelink theme
>>343041175
Because DS2 is different than DS1, and people died because of the differences. Rather than follow their mantra of "git gud" they did what casual do and descended into bitching and whining about every little thing.
DaS fans are fucking ludicrous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZF4ZXKs4I&t=45m20s
video of black phantom jump attack tracking
>>343041303
bloodborne is great you fag
>done 10+ playthroughs over the 3 games
>never learned to parry
>>343041320
Also, Longing > The Nameless Song
>>343041464
I still can't do it reliably in PVP. There are too many different weapons and attacks for me to try to memorize the speed of each and be able to recognize them immediately. Maybe if I just spent an ungodly amount of time practicing PVP, I would git gud, but I have other games I need to finish.
Really any build.
Sorcerers cruise in any game.
Melee classes have a small hump to get over with stat building, but once you hit the soft cap. You're solid throughout the rest of the game.
The ending sucked imo.
I was very disappointed for obvious reasons.
![havel's_armor[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/z3drkIv.png "havel's_armor[1].png")
>The best armor in each game is also the shittiest-looking
Grand Archives>High Wall>Undead Settlement>Lothric Castle>Irithyll>Catacombs of Carthus>Archdragon Peak>Cathedral of the Deep>Irithyll Dungeon>Profaned Capital>Anor Londo>Road of Sacrifices>Farron Keep>Cemetery of Ash>Untended Graves>Consumed King's Garden>Smouldering Lake
Nameless King>Soul of Cinder>Abyss Watchers>Pontiff>Dancer>Champ Gundyr>Lothric Princes>Aldrich>Greatwood>Wolnir>Dragonslayer Armour>Iudex>Old Demon King>Vordt>Oceiros>Crystal Sage>Yhorm>Deacons
>>343041464
>3 games
pcuck detected
>dark souls 1: castlevania: circle of the moon
>dark souls 2: castlevania: portrait of ruin
>dark souls 3: castlevania: order of ecclesia
literally find a flaw.
>>343030310
I suggest quality or full dex/str to 40 and then heavy af armour.
For PvE everything works. Just take a bow with you that does quite some damage and lots of arrows. You will need them later.
For PvE - The higher you go the higher the player skill goes.
Hexes are strong and can two-shot most people and they work perfectly against people who are unable to evade and roll but once you hit the elite everyone will just dodge your attacks so what you need there is good skill with your sword, a bow and some magic as backup.
>>343041394
Yeah, yeah. And Overwatch is goat, undertale is gotyay, and sony is best.
>>343030880
Das 3's lore is more connected with it's own game whereas 2's main lore is mostly secluded to a few areas
I can only remember Crypt and the Forest of giants being relevant to the Vendrick/Nashandra story, whereas the Lords of Cinder and their stories intersect each other.
Dark Souls 3 is really more like the Episode V to Episode IV, with 2 being the Prequel Trilogy. Yes, it's not a direct sequel. But the direction it goes in misses the point of the originals so hard it just isn't funny.
>>343044034
>Just take a bow with you that does quite some damage and lots of arrows. You will need them later.
There is no a single place in the game that needs you to use a bow/crossbow.They can make the game easier but you don't need them.
>>343045051
>What is The Shrine of Amana
>>343045103
pre-nerf i could understand wanting one
post nerf nah
>>343045103
No, you still don't need the bow it just makes the area easier.
>>343045235
Technically you can beat any area with your fists.
The question is if most players would like to do that.
>>343045294
That isn't related to the discussion
Q: Do you NEED bow for the game
A: No
That's it, end of discussion.
Your needless conjecture about fists are irrelevant. Run along now.
>>343045294
One of the reasons i love DS2. Every build works.
And i mean EVERY BUILD!!!
>>343041464
I perfected it in DS1 but never really could do it in DS2.
And so i became Great Resonate Soul incarnate. The lack of people using anti-dark equipment is amazing.
Dark Souls 1 menu theme is so weird. The tone matches none of the other pieces in the games but it just feels like it belongs in 1 and 1 alone. It's almost nostalgic, like in a heavy, dusty way or something. I can't put it into words. Maybe it's supposed to represent the world before the fire started dying and the PC got fucked with the curse. I just really like its inclusion and wish DSII and III didn't try to be so epic sounding all the time.
>>343045714
DaS1 has one of the most forgiving Parry mechanics of any game, aside from maybe Assassin's Creed 2.
Meanwhile DaS2 has one of the least forgiving.
>>343046512
Well it really depends on what you're using as a parry tool.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/parry
There are also weapons that have attacks that can't be parried.Like whips and that is only logical.
>>343030436
>Ds2 is underrated
Stopped reading right there.
>>343048617
It is by some people.
>>343030984
kappa
