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Kefka Announced for Dissidia
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mcJKP5VRLU
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Finally, someone I can identify with.
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Wow, this game looks like it's been downgraded to shit.
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>>343010141
>araki reboots batman.jpg
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Final Fantasy really needs another villain like Kefka.

No more brooding grimdark, just a dude who's batshit insane, knows it, owns it and loves it.
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>>343010141
Holy shit.

Does he have his whooping laugh?
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>>343010141
He looks like a tumblr tranny
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>>343010694
Jecht is a good balance of lighthearted and grimdark, plus (besides being the protag's father), Jecht is a very original villain concept. Its of course up to the player to decide to Jecht is even the main antagonist of FFX. Seymour is a typical brooding grimdark fag though.
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>>343010141
so when are they going to make a disdia 3 and not disidia the prequel?
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>>343010336
>downgraded to shit
kill yourself memer
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>>343010141
>Kefka turns snow field turns grassy

Are we going to be able to effect entire battlefields like this?
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I've always really, REALLY wanted to like Dissidia, but I simply can't get past the fact that they don't just use normal health bars instead of this needlessly different "you can only kill with a super" system or whatever the fuck it is.
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>>343010865
But Jecht isn't a villain in any possible way. He's just a bad father who sacrificed his life for a world he didn't belong to, and turned to his son to finish the job he started.
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>>343010141

Kefka Pa-Pa...Pala...IT'S TOO LONG!
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>>343011434
Jecht becomes Sin. Even if its against his will, Jecht is the antagonist of FFX. He may not be evil (and thus may not be considered a villain) but he is indeed an unwilling antagonist.
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>>343011412
Dissida does use a normal health bar. And you dont need to hit with a super to kill. Why dont you actually get informed on what youre talking about before you speak out of your ass like a fucking retard?
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>>343011660
Why are you lying?

I'm not that anon but I have over 500 hours in duodecim and you're full of shit
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COME ON

COME ON

COME ON
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>>343011660
>And you dont need to hit with a super to kill.
I think he's saying he's not a fan of the BRV system anon.

You can get BRV hits all day, but you need to connect an HP attack for it to matter.

I just hope Ultimecia isnt as broken in this like before. bitch was nigh untouchable for 90% of the cast.
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>>343011412
But it wasn't a system where you could only do damage with supers, one set of attacks would raise a number that acted as damage reduction while lowering the enemies, said number would also be used for determining the damage of the attacks that could actually hurt.
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>>343011598
Jecht doesn't actually become Sin, though. He's just the core of Sin which is piloted by Yu Yevon. Jecht himself does nothing.
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>>343011917

EX Bursts, Bravery Attacks, and HP attacks are all different things. It's a good system. Nothing wrong with it. That other anon complaining is just a faggot. Besides, there are alot of Brave to HP attacks and easy links with Assists.
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Exdeath when?
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>>343011803
Yeah and i have over 1000 hours on the original and duodecim combined. Everything I said is entirely correct. You never need to land a single ex burst to ever kill anyone and the HP bar is exactly that: an hp bar. It displays your current and max hp. Nothing more, nothing less.What the fuck are YOU going on about? Perhaps youre referring to the brave system which is something else entirely?
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Did he just turn the stage into the world of ruin?
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>>343012243

>Exdeath bro

MY NIGGA! Exdeath is best!
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when is this coming to console and why the fuck wasn't it at E3?

square enix's presence at E3 was as bad as Nintendo's if not worse.
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>>343012243

Exdeath will probably be dead last even after Gilgamesh because his fighting style won't translate to Dissidia Arcade very well.
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>>343012295
oh here we go.

if I could show you my rolling eyes I would.
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>>343012351
>its literally a traced Napoleon
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>>343010258
I take it that you to are a gentleman who is intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>>343011803
If you did actually play that much, then you'd know you don't need to use ""supers"" to do HP damage. You just need to use HP attacks.
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>>343012609
Why cant you just admit youre wrong? Is that so hard?
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literally who?
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>>343012723
>why can't you admit you're wrong?

well for a start, I ain't the guy who wrote that stupidness in the first place.
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>>343012513

It'll be announced for consoles when there's at least 45+ characters. Being arcade exclusive for a while is a good thing since it lets them make balance changes more easily before shipping it to consoles.
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>>343010141
>Kefka's personality is always the localized version
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>>343012904
that's dumb. they could have put it on console and made more money by adding them with a season pass or some stupid shit like that.
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>>343010141

>see Garland fighting in the demo as well

other videos?

really looking forward to seeing who they pick for FF11, 13 and 14 for the chaos side.

Delita is a shoe-in for Tactics
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>>343012897
Then fuck off.
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>>343013013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI5iqPHRvCA
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WHERE'S EXDEATH
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>>343013013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI5iqPHRvCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QgbqVu6Ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNbVim8AGZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3z6ZvcB2Ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqA80BMwj34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO76E4Qvi_8
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>>343010141
oh shit?!?! kefka will be in the game?!?!?

you don't say?!?!?!

i never expected this to happen!!!! i am so shocked
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>>343013013
For 13 it should be Cid Raynes.
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>>343010141
I've never played these boring looking games but shouldn't Kefka already be in it? Or is this for a game that isn't out yet? Just seems like Kefka would be a given.
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>>343013308

Sarcasm, eh?
At least admire his moveset. It's kind of changed.
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>>343013201

He's all over the Final Fantasy V stage. His roots are everywhere man.

>>343013336

Dissidia Arcade only had the main characters to start. They're adding the villains as time goes on but have only got around to Garland and Kefka.
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>>343013013
>ff11 ever getting a villain rep
that'll happen when they finally stop using Shittoto to represent it when she has 0 relevance to the main stories but Eald'narche and Kam'lanaut duo would be amazing and an interesting gimmick if they ever bothered

FF13 will be Caius, ff14 would be really hard to pick a single one
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>>343013318

>not space pope

why no EX bursts. best part of Dissidia was using their signature attacks
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>>343013010
>Season pass where you're only buying everything once
>Arcade where you have to pay more each time you lose

Now what earns more cash over time?
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>>343013462

>hating on muh waifu Shantotto

Fuck off. She's amazing.

>FFXIV
Gauis, maybe? l just want Hildibrand as warrior of Cosmos.
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>>343013308
I can see you intelligent. nihilistic and have a wicked sense of humor, anon.
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>>343013572
Her coming instead of Prishe is 100% bullshit and you know it
Prishe is actually relevant and was fun to play as
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>tfw no Barthandelus
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>>343010694
But Kuja and Ultimecia though
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>>343013572
>warrior of Cosmos
Is the whole Chaos/Cosmos thing even a thing anymore in the arcade version? Is there any story at all?
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>>343013732

Prishe was in FFXI, at least.
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>those summons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0oTJiy6j8g
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>>343013836
do you think they'll do alt outfits?

would like to see Y'Shtola in her new outfit
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>>343012636
That's the joke, you dense fuck.
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>>343013903
>alt outfits

god i hope, I fucking hate Tidus's weird ass design. Like his FFX outfit is ugly already, but Dissidia distorts it even more. I want to play as shirtless Tidus.
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>>343013825

Ultimecia comes off as more of a force of nature with a human face. Kuja is more of a bond villain who has an existential crisis

>>343013903

her old outfit, her new one, mandatory swimsuit, and then probably something more white mage looking
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never really played dissidia but ramza makes me want to try it
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>>343013465
Oh another mage type villain. Sure we need more of those
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>>343010924
Dissidia "2" was a prequel and the first one is said to be the end
Not that it matters cause this games starts a new timeline supposedly
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is this a fake or is there really a ps4 version?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fdxMyrXIN5c
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>>343013010

It costs devs money to patch games through PSN/Live. That's why Phil Fish wouldn't fix his shitty indie game.

Arcade games make bank in Japan. It costs around ~$2 to play 3 games. One of the top ranked players is a Shantotto player with thousands of matches so it's not hard to see how lucrative this is.

They're basically earning money WHILE developing the game. I'd rather they milk these arcade schmucks so I can just pay $60 for a definitive console version with all of the characters, better balance, and extra modes.
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CoD when?
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>>343013994
>probably something more white mage looking
It'll be the WHM artifact armor. They already gave it to her as one of her character-specific pieces in Record Keeper.
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Someone like me finally gets in
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>>343014120
It's real. Won't be releasing until the arcade version has villain counterparts for all the heroes though, so another year at least at the rate they're going.
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>>343014120
>Is this video from the verified SE channel fake?
If any, it shows that they're working on a PS4 version.
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>>343011434

He is sin. Of course you can consider him a villain, he made the original dissidias villain roster over Seymour, even if he isn't a 'villain' I still say he is the main antagonist and he is definitely the final boss of the game, yu yevon fight was just plot progression with no difficulty
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>>343012904
do you really believe that? really like seriously are you that fucking dumb? they will release it this year maybe early next year with a pre order day one noctis code. we will be lucky to reach 25 when it launches on console

>but he said he would like it to have 50+ characters
I bet he would like to get 50 characters that aint happening though
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>>343014305

>herp derp everybody should be able to read moon
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>>343014120

It was originally developed on stock arcade hardware which is what you see on the left. Sony helped push for a console version by letting them develop the game on what is basically PS4 hardware adapted slightly for the arcades.

Basically, it lets them port the game to the consoles much more easily when the game is complete enough to make a real port. There's no PS4 version yet but there inevitably will be one.
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>>343014212
You're not a clown nor a jester. Fuck off.
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>>343013994
They weren't grim and broody though
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>>343014305

No news sites have ever mentioned it, if you google ps4 dissidias you won't find a link to this video. You didn't know about it either. I thought it was unlikely that I was the only one to find this
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>>343014212
>Someone like me finally gets in
>finally
do you even dissidia?
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>>343014305

BTFO by

>>343014538

Don't talk big when you don't know shit
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>>343014478
Not really hard to go to the page and see that little rectangle with the check mark next the uploader name.
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>>343013150
He will always and forever be the nicest and most kind villain to me.
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>>343014647
>No news sites have ever mentioned it
http://gematsu.com/2015/04/dissidia-final-fantasy-arcade-developed-team-ninja-uses-ps4-core-system

http://gematsu.com/2015/04/dissidia-final-fantasy-arcade-special-trailer-arcade-vs-ps4-comparison

Maybe you should use better news sites.
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>>343010924
Dissidia 1 was the 13th cycle, not the first. Dissidia 012 was the 12th cycle (and included the Dissidia 1 story mode so 13th cycle as well).

This one is supposed to be a different cycle, possibly the first.
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>>343014761

http://nichegamer.com/2015/04/10/dissidia-final-fantasy-arcade-is-based-on-ps4-hardware-developed-by-team-ninja/

>A tease from Sony Computer Entertainment Japan president Atsushi Morita also came up, in which the boss expressed his interest in bringing the game to home consoles – and that he is in talks with Square Enix to make this happen. However, Square Enix producer Ichiro Hazama pointed out that the publisher is going to keep the game exclusive to arcades, for at least a year, before a port can happen.

Clearly, I know more than you.
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>>343013572
They already announced y'shtola, why the guesswork?
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>>343015341

who will be the chaos FF14 rep is the thing. Gaius i think would be the safest bet
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>some dumbfuck remix of the battle theme instead of dancing mad or the character theme

one job

you had ONE job and you fucked it up

fuck you SE
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>>343014761
>>343015279

Whoops I think I misread that. Sorry.
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>>343015452
Ahh, okay, yeah i could see that
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>>343015193
>Dissidia 012 was the 12th cycle (and included the Dissidia 1 story mode so 13th cycle as well).
It had the 20th cycle too.
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>>343015549
The whole game is fucked up trash. nothing like dissidia
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>>343010258
Whatever...

At least I have Squall.
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>>343015549

Anon are you deaf? That's clearly Dancing Mad in the trailer.
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I' like luneth as a character but he'd probably just be another firion
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>>343015549
Did you actually watch the video or are you complaining about something else like Seymour's theme.
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>>343010141
>yet another dancing mad remix instead of the objectively superior kefka's theme

why
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>>343012904
I can guarantee you that it will come out the second they've got the main 25 or so characters done with Noctis being pre-order exclusive.
They will just have the original Dissidia 1 cast + Shantotto, Vaan, Lightning and Y'shtola.
Then the original Dissidia 1 villains + Gabranth and MAYBE FF11, 13 and 14 getting villain reps but I wouldn't count on 11 and 14 getting them, only 13 at best and it would be either Cid or Barthandelus.
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>>343015549

But Dancing Mad IS playing in the video.
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11 and 14 won't get villain reps.
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>>343014004
Download PPSSPP
Download Dissidia 012
Play the game

Seriously it's that easy and it's amazing.
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>>343015682
>>343015759
>>343015830
yeah I watched it again

they just picked the shittiest part of the piece so I couldn't even remember it
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>>343010141
What the hell is this Hisoka ripoff?
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>>343015638
Was it 20th? I thought it was supposed to be some unnumbered cycle in far distant future where Chaos literally degenerated into a rabid braindead animal from all the loses he accumulated.
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>>343014425

I'll admit it's rate of development is slow but they have no incentive to rush out a console version. The game is pretty popular in the arcades so all they have to do is delay the console release until they reach their target character count.
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>>343010141
Wasn't he already i-WAIT DOES THAT MEAN MY MAN GARLAND MIGHT NOT BE RETURNING?
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>>343012670
yes, that is the meme
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Did they remove this?
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>>343016092
Dancing Mad has tiers for each form you dumb shmuck. The one playing in the video is the only one where you actually fight Kefka in FF6, the earlier tiers are just his tower and not Kefka himself. Besides previous Dissidia games used this exact same tier of Dancing Mad as well.
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>>343015909
who are the villains of those games even?
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I still mad about Seymour Battle remix.
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>>343010141
>tfw kefka is literally me
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>>343016242

Garland was the first villain added.
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>>343016242
are you being serious
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>>343016381
Multiple main villains, one for each expansion. That's why they won't get any.
If I were to give FF11 a villain it should be the Shadow Lord (final boss of vanilla FF11) but the FF11 stage in 012 was the Promathia one, Promathia being the final boss of the Chains of Promathia expansion.
WoW even aped said boss to the letter in mechanics and stage design with Algalon in Ulduar.
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>>343015806

Everything we say is speculation, honestly. Your scenario sounds plausible given how slow the rate of development is but they've stated that they're aiming for 50+ characters.

They lose nothing by delaying the console release to get closer to that target while continuing to milk the arcade scene.

Both of these can potentially happen.
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I hope we get some non-main protags / antags and get some secondary party members

I'd like to play as Setzer, Vincent, Balthier, Auron, and Vivi just to name a few.
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>>343010141
Why is this news? Are SE arbitrarily cutting characters from their already small roster to excite people?
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>dancing mad has become such a meme people who haven't even played the game know about it and associate Kefka with it
>meanwhile nobody knows about Kefka's actual theme even though it is wildly superior in literally every way
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>>343016671
Lets be honest here, they won't wait that long because they will want to milk the game with DLC.
I guarantee you they will go with my scenario and any extra characters will be DLC, also offered cheaper in some Season Pass. Possibly even two if Theatrhythm is anything to go by (with two large DLC waves separated by months of nothing between them).
I will be genuinely shocked if 11 and 14 get villain reps as well.
Also for FF Tactics if they add a villain it will be either Delita or Ultima.
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>>343016228
Yeah, it's the 20th.
The 18th is the one where Chaos loses his shit and starts killing everyone on both sides.
In the 20th cycle, Cosmos loses the power to summon warriors, Cid seals her away to protect her, and then seals off the northern continent where Feral Chaos eats Shinryu or whatever happened between those two.
Then Cid got stuck in a gateway and lost his memories and then the player's party gets brought into the world sometime later via some unkown force.
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>>343016724

It's very likely that the 012 newcomers will make it back too. Expect to see Laguna, Tifa, Yuna, Kain, etc. back again.

Nomura has also been vocal about getting FFII's Minwu into the game.
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>>343016921
Thanks for clarifying, it's been so many years I forgot how that plot point went exactly.
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>>343016973
>Minwu
What's he gonna do? cure us to death?
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>>343016724
>>343016973
They will be added to the game no doubt but definitely later on, after they're done with all the main villains.

>>343016748
It's the arcade version. Seeing as they can't reuse content from Dissidia 1/012 they have to remake everything from ground up hence why it won't have as many characters.
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>>343015549

...that is Dancing Mad.
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>>343016973
NO TIFA NO BUY

i can accept other monk characters, but she is my #1 monk waifu
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>>343016763

You're saying that as if it's never happened before. The exact same thing happened to Sephiroth and even Seymour.
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>>343017080

he'll cast Exit on you and send you back to the title screen
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>>343016973
>Nomura has also been vocal about getting FFII's Minwu into the game.

Interesting. I wonder why Nomura likes him? If we do get a white mage, I'd prefer a female character since that role has traditionally been female (Minwu being the only main male white mage in the entirety of the series iirc).

>>343017080
Considering this dissidia is team-based, I think a white mage character makes sense. Same with characters that boost other characters (I think that's green magic in FF).
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God, I played hundreds of hours in both Dissidias.
This game will be lauch in December 2017 for PS4 by the pace of it. Fuck.
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>>343010442
Well done
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>>343010141
WHERE'S MY BOY KUJA?
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>>343017080
You can see status effects on characters in Kefka's trailer, so having a healer around might actually make sense.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYnzpPdsHRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMFCM0SKbnY

Thread Themes
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>>343010924
I hope they drop that stupid story bullshit and just make a game focused on the gameplay. No RPG bullshit either I hope, just a pure fightan game.
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>>343017340
Probably off accepting his "biggest homo" award
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>>343010141
>fighting game where you have to unlock every character's movesets by grinding
>weird blitzball minigames in the middle of battle
>fights can end in 1 combo

Do people enjoy this just for the fanservice? It always felt too clunky for me
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>>343017281

would actually work as a chaos rep too
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>>343017340
Getting his ass fucked to oblivion by Feral Chaos.
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Cringe thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TRGt6QpMv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKFAbxuxfVM
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>>343017080

>implying Minwu can't use Ultima

The game is 3 v 3 so there's no reason why a dedicated support character can't exist.
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>>343017531
How does it feel to be retarded?
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>>343017340
Getting ridden by Terra
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>>343017613
This shit right here is why we need to hide our power levels.
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So what did Japan think of this? It looked kind of iffy to me, but I haven't really heard anything about it since it launched until now
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>>343013825
Ultimecia is timewarped psycho dick-crazed Rinoa who was a fuckin spoiled cunt in the firsr place.

Kuja was just a faggy furry bitch with a serious inferiority complex.

Kefka was certifiably fucking max level insane. Theres no comparison. Hes one of the best written villains in the entire FF series because of it. His motivations are literally "BECAUSE FUCK YOU THATS WHY" most of the time and then "Because I fucking can" the rest.
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>>343017340

Have some Alexandria instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8Fd8uagg8
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>>343017281
>Starts out super strong compared to the main party and babysits your ass for the first part of FF2.
>Sacrifices himself so you can get Ultima which is actually a shitty spell gameplaywise but still
>Helps beat the shit out of the Light Emperor.

Minwu is pretty damn cool for a NES era character.
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>>343010141
I can't believe they literally put me in the game
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>>343017751
Doesn't help that his costume is absolutely fucking terrible.
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>>343016440
So it's not just me! That shit better get fixed
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>>343016289
Maybe it's gonna be a skin.
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>>343017663
Minwu can't ultima he died before it :^)
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So I've beaten 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 10-2, and 13. Which one should I play next?
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>>343017867
012's Prima Vista stage is better.
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>>343017908
Minwu is even more based in the remakes.
>that moment when Minwu finally learns Ultima on the extra dungeon
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>>343018084
wait for XII HD remaster
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>>343018084
5 is underrated as fuck
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>>343018084
5.
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>>343018084
9 or 5
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>>343018173
no it isn't. it's commonly one of the most talked about and appreciated games
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>>343016234
they won't waste time as soon as they get a chaos rep for each of the games they will release it, most likely a bonus 2 characters compared to the arcade version most likely be in December. Day one noctis pre order bonus. so I am going to say 30 characters at launch. If you really think they will wait till they reach 45 your retarded they never do that no arcade game waits to give the console version that much content
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>>343018123

Not with that shitty low ceiling.
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>>343017908
Ultima is good in GBA and PSP versions though, what are you smoking? It was only broken in the NES version and Sakaguchi fired the lazy fuck who wouldn't fix it.
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>>343018084
3.
Why the fuck do you played 4 and not 3?
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>>343018084

3 or 5. 3 is much harder
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>>343017429
>>343015193
>>343015193
>>343014105
I meant prequel as in the gameplay is 2 steps down compared to the first games
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>>343018084
5 or 3, personally I say play 3 or 5 first (both have Job system) and then play 9 and then play the other one you haven't picked earlier (3 or 5)
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>>343018153
I own 12 but never beaten it because it gets very boring. I might get the remaster if it fixes what I found boring about the game.

>>343018173
>>343018220
>>343018252
>>343018270
5 it is then. Is the playstation 3 version based on the mobile port? The steam one is which is why I haven't gotten it yet.
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>>343018430
But that's objectively false. Just because they removed EX Mode doesn't meant that the gameplay is worse.
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>>343018374
>Why the fuck do you played 4 and not 3?
maybe because there's no story connecting the FF games?
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>>343018554
>one (1) HP attack
>no EX mode
sure sounds completely ruined to me buddy
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>>343018520
I think you'll enjoy the remaster since it's like the zodiac international edition, much better than what the NA got originally
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Is the UI still absolute dog shit? If yes then I'm gonna pass on this game.
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>>343018374
Why would anyone play FF games in release order when they aren't fucking linked together by story? The only exceptions are FF4 and FF4 The After Years, FF10 and FF10-2, FF12 and Revenant Wings and finally FF13 Trilogy.
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>>343018347
>Ultima is good in GBA and PSP versions though

I'd still much rather use Toad or Berserk/Haste.
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>>343018520

Pirate the GBA version, the PS3 version is based on the old PS1 version which has abysmal load times and a laughably bad translation.
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>>343018621
We all know this anon.
He didn't played 2 either and I'am ok with this.
But 3 is a godtier game, while 4 it's the worst FF in 2D.
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Wow I'm so glad a shoe-in was confirmed after all this time of not hearing anything.
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>>343018702
>one HP Attack
Son are you retarded? You START with one and unlock rest later. It still has 3 Ground Brave, 3 Air Brave, 3 Ground HP and 3 Air HP.
EX Mode is still there, they just removed the EX Bursts because they were casual and essentially gave you free OHKO opportunity that enemy couldn't protect themselves from.
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>>343018554
one hp attack causing 1v1 ruined
no ex mode
based around 3 v3
>inb4 you can pick from multiple hp attacks
you still only have 1 per game
you have less moves in total as well
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>>343018752

>FF4 The After Years

We don't talk about that.
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>>343018981
>one hp attack causing 1v1 ruined
False, you have 1 at Level 1, you still get 3 but you need to grind them out. Also there is no 1 vs 1 at all in the game.

>no ex mode
Objectively false, for fucks sake even Kefka trailer has EX Mode shown on Terra. They only removed EX Bursts.

>based around 3 v3
That's an improvement.
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>>343018930
Every single character that has appeared in a Dissidia title along with Ramza and Noctis were actually already announced about 2 - 3 years ago. These character trailers are just to show off progress on the game really. We already know a huge amount of the roster.
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>>343019038
>We don't talk about that.
haven't played it, what makes it bad?
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>>343019038
Why do people hate that game? It didn't do anything offensive. It's a painfuly safe sequel that didn't do anything new, it's just more of the same. I understand complaints tha say it's basically just that - more of the same, but saying it's bad is just wrong. It actually has moon phases and augments which are nice additions, there's more playable characters, Kain gets proper redemption arc that's done in main story rather than shitty non canon post-game dungeon like in the GBA version and the secret boss has a multi-tier fight like Kefka in FF6.

What's not to like?
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>>343019127
>These character trailers are just to show off progress on the game really.
I'm not seeing anything new.
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>>343019224
Pretty much everything.
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>>343019224
Nothing, see >>343019289
It's just that it barely does anything new.
The only new things it does is moon phases, new characters and Band Attacks (think Dual/Triple Techs from Chrono Trigger)
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>>343018931
I haven't played Dissidia in years but to do the EX Bursts didn't you have to actually land an HP attack to initiate them? Not exactly "free" at that point.
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>>343019289
>Kain gets proper redemption arc
that's one of the worst offenders. literally just rehash of cecil. oh wow a holy dragoon woah

90% of the game is going "oh hey remember that one time that one thing happened?! oh god the exact same thing is happening AGAIN! How crazy is that???"
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>>343019657

FFIV: The After Years is the Star Wars: The Force Awakens of Final Fantasy games.
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>>343018702
the arcade version is always watered down compared to the home version. when the home version comes out then you might have room to bitch
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>>343019838
right they have to lower the graphics for the ps4
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>>343018327
>Not with that shitty low ceiling.

>my playstyle requires me to have ample room to run around in.
>tfw somebody picks Prima Vista

Man fuck that stage. It's so small and cramped.
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>>343019953

At least they didn't pick the Phantom Train.
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>>343018327
>>343019953
As a Kainfag, I enjoy your tears. Hope you like wall rushes.
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>>343019745
I think you mean the force unleashed
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>>343019649
You did, but all the damage from the EX Burst was still completely free and it gave you a free break on opponent. It was just broken in a game that was meant to be even remotely balanced since you could turn the entire battle around with it and OHKO.
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>>343013150
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>>343020185
No, he means The Force Awakens.
Because entire Force Awakens is garbage that relies on "oh hey remember that one time that one thing happened?! oh god the exact same thing is happening AGAIN! How crazy is that???" complete with protag being a rehash of Luke and villain being a rehash of Vader.
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So when are they announcing Ozma?
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>>343020453
>Still no Ark summon just to waste people's time
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>>343020407

they also can't use EX Revenge if you don't hit them
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>>343020453
he will be a xiv rep
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>>343017846
>Hes one of the best written villains in the entire FF series because of it. His motivations are literally "BECAUSE FUCK YOU THATS WHY" most of the time and then "Because I fucking can" the rest.

Yeah thats so original.

Take the Joker.

ctrl + c
ctrl + v

gg
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>>343020380
In story line quality you are right. I was thinking more of game play wise.
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Reminder Kefka, Kuja, and Exdeath were the most successful villains in terms of accomplishing goals compared to the rest. I think.
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What do you mean announced? Hasn't he pretty much always been there?
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>>343019745
You're fucking nuts. TAY is a great game and is how you do a direct FF sequel.
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>>343021120
kuja didn't do shit except pout
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>>343020940
But FF4TAY has objectively better gameplay than FF4, this is not even up for debate. You have all of FF4's characters with their abilities + new characters with new abilities + Moon Phases + Bands.
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>>343020137
Sh-shouldn't Prima Vista suck for you then? You barely have enough room to jump, and your HP attacks dont have as much room to shave down BRV. I mean a Dragoon that can't jump, thats depressing
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>>343010141
>same voice as Pilaf

huh, somehow fitting.
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>>343021173
>Pouted like a bitch and wanted to kill everything because dumb mortality crisis
>Kills everything and the game had to be saved by you pushing death's shit in
Sounds like he was pretty successful.
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>>343021162
it was kinda as pointless as Advent Children, desu sempai
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>>343015738
In the remake he literally had no "special" moves
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>>343011062
i want a 1v1 mode, like the other 2 games

they took away my overdrive mode for crying out loud!
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>>343020913
>hurrrrr durrrr Kefka da joker

I don't recall the Joker having his mind broken by an as yet unperfected procedure, having a comic arc that details his descent into madness which culminates in him destroying the entire planet because he felt like it and becoming a literal God.

Stop being a nigger.
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>>343017846

It pisses me off that people write Kefka off as boringly insane. He really is well written and the statue of God's portion of his fight was thematically superb.
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>>343021260
Nope

Lancet begs to differ
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>>343021162

>how you do a direct FF sequel.

Literally recreated the base game scene for scene? I mean I suppose that's technically a sequel.
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>>343021120
Kuja didn't do shit, ExDeath ultimately didn't do shit either since killing him restored everything exactly to the way it was before it got swallowed by the Void. The only FF villains that actually achieved their goals are Garland/Chaos (held the world in his grip for countless loops), Palamecia (killed a fuckton of people, conquered the world, killed God and Lucifer and took their place), Kefka (destroyed the fucking world, permanently fucking it up beyond repair and killed countless people while becoming THE God of Magic), Yu Yevon (ruled the world as dominant diety for 1000 years), Vayne (accomplished his goal of ending the rule of the Occuria and brought the reins of destiny back in the hands of man) and Barthandelus (forced the party to complete their focus, summon Ragnarok, kill Orphan and destroy Cocoon).

I'm not counting sequels and spinoffs.
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>>343013226
im glad ramza has throw stone and yell, but what else was he doing?
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>>343021196
Sorry that I wasn't clear. The after years had better gameplay over all, but had uninteresting story.
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>>343021565
The joker is the OG "psycopath who does it for the lulz" I dont care about your backstory bullshit

Stop being a nigger.
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>>343021146
Not so much announced, but more like a trailer to show, I'm guessing, how shiny the new one looks. Cosmos side has gotten most of the trailers, in terms of people who have been in previous game. Now the villians are also getting them, Kefka being the 2nd Chaos Side, I think.

Gabranth trailer when?
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>>343021632
Thats a freaking Ex mode only attack,anon. On top of that, you actually use that? Youre a Kainfag, you should be jumping on bitches, not shoving magic up asses
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>>343010141
Why does he have ugly frog lips?
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I love his VA
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>>343010141
Japanese body language is so fucking stupid.
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>>343021721
>how to tell when someone is shitposting about a game they've never played: example 1

Tell me where in ff4 Rydia sacked Baron and took it over with Bahamut.

Literally the very first portion of Ceodores tale proves you wrong. Hundreds of other examples exist but I don't really need to bother pointing them all out just for you to MASTER TROLE and ignore it.

Stop being a nigger.
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>>343021387
It is pointless, that's without a doubt but it's a fanservice game for people who wanted more of the same, nothing more nothing less.

>>343021721
>scene for scene
Ceodore's Tale, Kain's Tale, Gathering, True Moon and Planet Eater chapters are all new in terms of scenes with the exception of Ceodore going through the Mist Cave and Kain getting a duel with his evil self and becoming Holy but that's literally only the finale of his chapter and the rest of it is entirely new.
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>>343021760
>I don't care about the things that make me wrong.

Know how I know you're a liberal faggot?
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>>343021772
Sometime after Exdeath and Golbez hopefully

Golbez could be full armor or muscle wizard, either is fine by me
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>>343013226
>RAMZA BEOULVE
>doing some Super Saiyan shit

what the fuck is this horseshit
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>>343012984
Whats the difference?
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When's Ultros?
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Ultimecia when? I want to see glorious boobs in the glorious HD
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>>343022053

Ramza's signature fighting style involves running away for ~10 minutes while yelling, then in one fell swoop kills everyone on the field before they can react
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>>343020559
really?
is he just as annoying in FF9?

just go look up his ai script for how he chooses battle commands, its great shit.
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>>343021746
Personally I think the story is good in Ceodore's, Kain's and the Gathering/Final Tale chapters. It's just that all those chapters in-between are shit (Rydia's, Yang's, Palom's, Edge's, Porom's and Edward's).

You could remove those "filler" chapters and pretty much not lose a thing, or at least simplify them all to 1 much shorter ensemble chapter with a lot less groundhog day revisiting of FF4 dungeons.
Technically Lunarians Chapter is filler too but I actually liked that one despite being "rehash-y" in nature. If only because you get to see Golbez literally solo Zeromus.
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>>343021935

If you knew magic, you would act like a flamboyant faggot too. We all would.
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>>343022236
>is he just as annoying in FF9?

Equipping Shadow-absorbing gear and doing a related sidequest nerfs him pretty hard.

otherwise yeah he can be kind of a pain in the ass
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>>343022053
I'm amazed there aren't more complaints that it's not mercenary Ramza.
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>>343022050
Not him but Joker also has an origin story that destroyed his mind just like Kefka. For Kefka it was the magitek infusion being imperfect and making him slowly degrade to insanity, for Joker it was a bad day with him losing his job, his wife shitting on him, being forced into a heist as a hostage and Batman dumping him into acid because he was forcibly dressed as the ringleader. Joker is literally the OG tragic character who went insane due to shit circumstances.
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>>343022428
Dont have to tell me twice.

I'd be levitating and doing gay little flips all day.
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>>343021961
Not him but you cherrypicked hard, Ceodore's Tale is one of the ones with actually new content aside from rehashing Mist Cave but you can't deny that literally all the chapters between his and Kain's are literal fucking filler rehash.
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>>343022549
He looks cuter with the ponytail
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>>343021859
Lancet and Laguna in general are the main reasons why i hate that train. The Train works for Kain way more than it should be you have less room to dodge him even though shit like sky rave and rising drive is nerfed there. Lancet's the last fucking straw because you'll be trapped in a corner an will never be able to see where you need to dodge. My friend was an avid Kainfag so i know from experience on the recieving end. So like>>343020137 said, enjoy them wall rushes.
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>>343021876
Kefka in Dissidia is based on his original Amano artwork, not the shitty PS1 CGI renders.
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So...is this coming to PS4?

I'm finding news about an arcade game, I haven't followed the series since it was always a PSP thing.
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