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How can people say it wasn't censorship?
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How can people say it wasn't censorship?
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>He doesn't have a latex fetish

This is the best change.
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>>343000049
>If I put on a shirt after not wearing a shirt its censorship
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she looks better because of it, same with urien.
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>>343000049
For the nth time, she looks better than this or any of the other options already posted...
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>>343000049

Is the new Urien censorship too?
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>>343000723
>Those feet
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>>343000049
Juri was never a tits girl
>exposed toes
All is right. Now fuck off you flamebaiter
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>>343000865
Yes
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>>343000049
>he's not into it
Why not homey?
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>>343000049
Because it looks better.
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>>343000049
Who cares, PC will mod it and remove it, only sucks for tourney fags and sony kids
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probably because of the entire existence of Laura
changing a design from rushed artwork != censorship
if you weren't such a kneejerk dipshit you'd realize that
a dipshit with bad tastes at that. latex is puresex
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That hint of ass peeking up over her back is driving me crazy.
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She looks hotter with the new under body suit. How can you hate it.
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>>343000049
What was the original?
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>>343004176
There was no original.
All we saw of Juri was the rushed story art
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Just imagining Juri getting hot and sweaty under that skin-tight suit is turning my dick diamonds.
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>>343000723
Sorry you got shit taste
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>>343004285
>>All we saw of Juri was the rushed story art
I love this excuse
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>>343005420
>state hard fact
>nice excuse lul
whatever you say, my man
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>>343005886
Doesnt change that there was a design change, in a game that already has a past history of censorship

Do the math buddy
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>>343000998
She is now though, which makes my favorite Street Fighter waifu and best girl even more best girl, how can the others compete?
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>>343005982
>change in design
>CENSORSHIP REEEEEEEEEEE

there's no convincing you otherwise I see. We're done here.
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>>343006340
The existence of the bonita doesn't automatically negate any and all censorship

Fuck off
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>>343006052
>those tits
>those thighs
>that ass
>those curves
>now that body suit

Juri is now the ultimate semen demon
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>>343006443
I mich prefer Laura's other alt. Still sexy as all fucking hell but as trashy
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I've gotta say from a design standpoint the bodysuit makes a lot more sense, but if you're going to commit to it in the art, don't bitch out at the last minute, because now it looks stupid. What, did Juri spy on Cammy in that scene, then realize she forgot to dress completely and went back to her apartment to put the suit on? Shits dumb.
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>>343006443
See, you're blind to your own shitty logic.

If what you believe is true, then that would mean Capcom will censor some tits but not others in an attempt to fool those rascally SJWs or something
which is retarded to believe

What's actually happening is that Juri isn't censored at all. It's just a fucking change of design.

What the fuck do you care though. You don't even play the fucking game. you just want to see anime tiddies
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>>343000049
Dude, she wears fucking latex under that, that's kinky as fuck.
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>>343005325
nah his taste is fine yours is shit
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>>343000049
well, it does look more practical.
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>>343006443
waaaaaah muh buttslap waaaaaah waaaaah
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she looks better without the cleavage.
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>>343006986
>It's just a fucking change of design.
Even IF it was it looks fucking shit.

>>343007338
I fucking love bodysuits, doesn't mean they're fine on everything. It looks REALLY unnatural. Skintight bodysuits under open clothes like that look terrible.
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>People who designed character decide to make changes to her appearance before she's even released due to internal decisions and not from outside influence.
>"Censorship!"

Are people just baiting or is this what they genuinely believe?
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>>343007639
both
and neither of them play the game
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>wearing latex under latex

Looks stupid as fuck tbqh

Could have covered the tits in a thousand other ways and actually give her a decent outfit.
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I only have a xbox360 controller, can I make combos in this game or is hard like SF4?
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>>343006986
>What the fuck do you care though. You don't even play the fucking game. you just want to see anime tiddies
I LOVE this assumption. Why the fuck would I be here right now if I didn't care and didn't like the game.

I don't care about getting my rocks off. Google is a thing. I'm upset at the fact that something got changed that didn't need to be changed. It has nothing to do with the tits. Ono is trying to appeal to a crowd that isn't interested in the game and never will be.
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>>343000049
Can you prove it was?
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>>343007740
>people think it's latex

It's not even latex, it's literally just under-armor athletic wear. Latex is far more shiny.
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>>343007779
>Why the fuck would I be here right now if I didn't care and didn't like the game.
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>>343007779
you're upset about something so unbelievably minor being changed. the funny part is you and the other censorfag autists are more retarded with your outrage than the sjws can be.
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>>343007779
I'm here just because her new design pleases my dick so much. SFV launch was so trash I'm never giving Capcom money for it in my life, the game can go fuck itself.
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>>343007404
Nice reply bruv
>>343007639
>and not from outside influence.
You don't know this at ALL. We already know that Ono has already admitted to toning stuff down to reach as many people as possible.
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a regular black push-up bra would have been hot af

i like the eyepatch but was hoping for something more drastically different
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>>343007779
>I'm upset at the fact that something got changed that didn't need to be changed
what exactly is wrong with it being changed though
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>>343008069
Why? Because it didn't have story mode?

Fuck you and everyone likes you who focuses so much on single player content in a multiplayer game.
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>>343008168
Because it didn't NEED to be. Change just for the sake of change is stupid as shit.
>>343007997
>you're upset about something so unbelievably minor being changed
Once again its not about how minor it was. Its the fact that developers changed it in the first place for an audience that won't play the game.
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>>343008086
you claim he doesn't know but you do

does your uncle work for street fighter
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>>343008086
>You don't know this at all.

And you don't know if it is due to outside influence yet you still jump to the conclusion that it's censorhip.

>Ono has already admitted to toning stuff down to reach as many people as possible

That's still not censorship. They designed a character, realised they weren't happy with the design and so decided to make changes. This is before the character has been released to the public. They haven't toned down much at all, the character still looks sexy and behaves in a seductive manner. Look at Laura, R. Mika and Cammy for crying out loud, they've still got plenty of sexual themes going on in the game they just decided to make a change to her appearance. This isn't censorship.
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>>343007537
>Skintight bodysuits under open clothes like that look terrible.
Not that poster, but you might very well be retarded.
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>>343000049
It is censorship, but it's one of those rare times where the censored version is better and more hotter than the uncensored version.
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>they changed it because of the sjws because i said so
>you think that they changed it for reasons other than outside influence? bullshit source you're full of shit how do you know

censorfags literally the most retarded group of people on the internet today
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>>343008419
>Its the fact that developers changed it in the first place for an audience that won't play the game.
>"""""""""""""fact""""""""""""""
Wew
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>>343000049

Has it been confirmed that other colors for her base costume wont remove the undersuit or change it to skin tone? I know previously in SFIV one of Chun-lis alt costume colors actually removed part of the outfit and I think in SFV there are some colors that do this too for other characters.
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Can we ever ADD something to a female character's design without people bitching?
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>>343008419
>Change just for the sake of change is stupid as shit.
What's it like being oblivious to perspective beyond your own
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what happened to bengus
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>>343008419
>Change just for the sake of change is stupid as shit.

How can we determine at this stage that it doesn't have a purpose? Maybe the developers decided that a skintight suit better fit her character for what her role is (maybe something akin to a spy/femme fatale since it's a fairly common part of their wardrobe)
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>>343007404
go back to NeoFag cuck
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>>343008732
Curiously enough, they only seem to care about women in 3DS rpgs and women in fighting games, a genre I doubt any of them play
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>>343008841
nope
if tits are shown they gotta stay shown
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>>343000723
no she doesn't, consider suicide
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>>343008456
You can't say
>due to internal decisions and not from outside influence.
Without proof of it being completely free from outside influence. Especially when Ono has admitted to the past on changes for the sake of reaching a larger audience.
>>343008579
>They designed a character, realised they weren't happy with the design and so decided to make changes
And this is my problem with your posts. You say these as if you're speaking on their behalf and as if you know for a FACT that its because they weren't happy with the design.
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>>343008419
>Its the fact that developers changed it in the first place for an audience that won't play the game.

Source: MY ASS

The game already has plenty of sexy characters in it. Look at Laura for crying out loud, her tits and ass are hanging out and you can see her g-string coming out the top of her shorts. Cammy has a leotard halfway up her ass crack and so does R.Mika. Chun Li has a costume that covers about 40% of her skin and they're releasing a bikini costume for Karin. This isn't censorship, why they changed the design is between them but it's not because of outside pressure from groups to change it.
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It's juri, no one cares except juri-fags and people who flipout when it isn't "in the pure form our senpais in japan intended it to be"
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>>343009125
>And this is my problem with your posts. You say these as if you're speaking on their behalf and as if you know for a FACT that its because they weren't happy with the design.

Which is exactly what you're doing except you're arguing the opposite. The game already has very sexualised characters in it, if it's due to outside influence how come they didn't do the same with Laura or R.Mika? How come Cammy has a costume where for some reason she decided not to wear pants? If they are being pressured from outside groups why have they only taken action against Juri?
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>>343008776
Look at any of these SJWs who actually complain about sexual content in video games. Do you see ANY of them playing Street Fighter?
>>343008968
>Maybe the developers decided that a skintight suit better fit her character for what her role is
Then change the outfit to something that it would actually look GOOD to. The change looks REALLY halfassed.
>>343009273
>Source: MY ASS
>“Our objective with ‘Street Fighter V’ is to start over from zero”, explains Ono. “We want the professional players and the casual fans of the series to return, but we also want to reach those who have never even touched a fighting game. So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, ‘This is not acceptable’”
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>>343008732
Censorship apologist are just as bad
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Should have covered up her feet and let her hair down.

Then she would have been perfect.
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>>343000049
When Ibuki is going to be release
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>>343009627
lol so disregarding shit that literally has no impact on the game itself makes me an apologist. make a cocktail of stuff under your sink and drink it please.
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>>343009627
The horseshoe effect in motion, my friend. No matter what they do, people are going to be mad about it. Then people will get mad at the fact other people are getting mad. Then we fling shit at each other about it until it gets old and we find something else. Nobody will give a shit about this within a couple of weeks.
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>>343009527
>Look at any of these SJWs who actually complain about sexual content in video games. Do you see ANY of them playing Street Fighter?
I don't see censorfags playing Street Fighter either. I don't know a single person who plays fighting games regularly that cares about the censorship meme, except for one anime weeaboo idiot who just talks about how sakura is his waifu and doesn't play the game at all.
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>>343009908
but they dont play street fighter because of the catering to the sjws!!!!!!! they're justified in their autism!!!
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>>343009527
Ono was talking about the actual gameplay of SFV, hence why a lot of people cry about SFV being to casual and only appealing to newer players. If he was talking about toning down the sexualisation he didn't do a very good job of it because the game already has plenty of sexual characters in it, which you would know if you actually bothered to read my post.

So Ono thought Laura having a costume where her ass cheeks are hanging out the bottom of her shorts was fine but Juri showing some skin was too much? Why they changed the design is between them, it's THEIR fucking character.
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>>343008841
>to a female character's design
I love how this has to be a made into a thing about females, especially when she has been shown off alongside fucking URIEN.

More people are complaining about Urien's lack of skin then they are Juri's.

People complain about design changes in general, male or female.
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>>343009763
>SO WHAT SHE'S WEARING A HIJAB, IT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE GAME LOL
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>>343000723
This looks better, I don't know why latex cucks will deny this
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>>343009908
>I don't see censorfags playing Street Fighter either.
I play street fighter
>I don't know a single person who plays fighting games regularly that cares about the censorship meme
Then you don't know a lot of people then.
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>>343010056
epic strawman censorautist
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>>343010002
>Ono was talking about the actual gameplay of SFV
He said this in RESPONSE to the R. Mika buttslap getting removed
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>>343010181
Except it wasn't removed, she still slaps her ass.
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>>343010102
it's not "latex cucks", it's tumblr trying to push the idea that censorship is ok. they will always say the censored one looks better no matter how bad it looks
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>>343010181
This change was also made before the game was actually released. Do you actually know what the definition of censorship is?
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>>343010445
>This change was also made before the game was actually released
How the fucking shit does this mean it isnt censorship
>>343010316
>Except it wasn't removed
You can't see it. It's effectively removed.
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>>343010379
Are you being serious right now?
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>Game has a brazilian who runs her hands across her body, has her tits hanging out and a visible thong poking out the top of her booty shorts
>Game has a Japanese wrestler in a thong leotard with the top of her tits exposed
>Game has a Chinese woman with huge thighs in a dress that covers little of her skin
>Game has a woman in a skintight leotard that goes halfway up her ass and a costume were she's not even wearing pants
>"They're censoring the game because of SJW's!"

Do people even realise what the fuck they're talking about?
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>>343005420
And you do realize there's another pic of her with a jacket that coverseverything right? Why is that not the default one?
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>>343010724
It's just low tier bait.
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>>343000049
Well it is so tight it looks like body paint so she still shows a lot. Also her feet aren't covered and that's what matters.
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>>343010719
Why wouldn't he be? The change look fucking shit.
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>>343000205
/thread
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>>343010851
>Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a troll!!!!
Grow up
>>343010724
The existence of other racy content doesn't negate past censorship
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>>343010958
it's kinder to assume you're pretending to be retarded than to take your nonsense seriously.
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>>343010867
>>343010379

I'm willing to accept that I am not the ideal judge of good latex visuals so could you show an example of latex that is better aesthetically?
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>>343010625
Get a dictionary or just go onto google and type in "censorship" you fucking sperg. THEY made the fucking character, they can do whatever they want with the design.

South Park: The Stick of Truth had scenes in it removes in parts of europe and Australia because authorities outside of the development refused to release the game there if they still had the scenes in it. The developers as a result had to remove the scenes in order for the game to get a release in those countries. THAT is censorship, they didn't want to remove them but they had to due to an authority from outside their influence.
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>>343010867
Because its a very paranoid conclusion to end at.
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>>343000049

FUARK! Look at them thighs. They made her thick as well. Based Capcom
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Why aren't you talking about Urien though? I thought you cared about the game, so why not that censorship?

It's almost as if you are just trying to use the easiest bait. But that couldn't possibly be it, right?
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>>343010724
maybe the idea to censor too much skin came post release and they couldn't simply patch all the female models as to not look obvious.

this is clearly censorship though
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The only reason why people deny this as censorship is because its not on a Nintendo system.
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>>343010727
>And you do realize there's another pic of her with a jacket that coverseverything right?
Thats all fine and dandy. Thats very clearly a different outfit then. The problem here is the outfit that got changed, it looks really shitty and half-assed.
>>343011089
It's not the existence of the latex, its the fact that it looks out of place on her outfit. Like it very clearly doesn't belong.

If they wanted to not show her bare tits there would have been a thousand other pays they could have done it that would have looked better. Hell I wouldn't even complain if she just zipped up the outfit.
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>>343011216
Urien didn't show up in story mode, no one knew what he would look like to begin with.
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>>343011031
It also means you can't accept anyone having different opinions from you

Grow up
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>>343008095
Why is this always right?
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>>343011428
But you're wrong. It's not a case of you just having a different opinion, you're actually just wrong. You don't know the meaning of censorship and are upset that the developers made a design change to their own character that you disagree with. It doesn't matter how many times you stamp your feet, by definition this isn't censorship.
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>>343011313
>Hell I wouldn't even complain if she just zipped up the outfit
another point. the censorship was so half-assed that didn't even bother changing the model, they just slapped some shitty texture on top of her skin
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>>343000049
I can't look at that face without hearing "I'LL FUCK YOU ALRIGHT".
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>>343010724
>but they only censored one thing!
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>>343011097
>Get a dictionary or just go onto google and type in "censorship" you fucking sperg. THEY made the fucking character, they can do whatever they want with the design.
Self-censorship is a thing
>>343011216
Hey dumbfuck.
See >>342995383
There were like a dozen previous threads bitching about Urien too.
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>capcom makes juri even sexier
>everyone complains and shouts censorship
? ? ? ? ? ?
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>>343011313
>pays
*ways
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The skintight suit only makes my dick harder so I dunno what yall talking about
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They know they will make a lot more money if they make the unclothed version DLC costume
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>>343011702
>make her sexier
>censor her on release
>no one complains
>retards like you show up
ftfy
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>>343011605
>being pressured into doing something doest count as censorship
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>>343000723
and where are the other options? can somebody show them?
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Isn't it just the regular costume and the skin one is the story one?

I'm pretty sure that's it, then censorship faggots will look silly.

Getting rid of Mika's buttslap is a whole different thing, espeically after the statement.`
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>>343011631
This is my problem with SFV as a whole. It's a fucking fun game and I LOVE but there are a bunch of tiny things here and there that are just really half assed and just bother me. Case in point, hair or any dangling objects from a character have horrible clipping problems.
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>>343011648
The point is, if the vast, vast majority of the game is still incredibly sexy and revealing, why is censorship the immediate assumption when a change is made? And by vast majority, I mean you can count the acts of "censorship" on one hand. When the entirety of the game except one or two examples is still TnA out the ass, how does it makes sense to think the game is under some onus to be PC? If not being revealing was somehow a influential factor in development, the game should be looking much different than it does.
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>>343012086
That bothers me too, at the same time dickheads use shit like hairworks or whatever and then whinge about the framerate.
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>think we're finally rid of the tyranny of goober gabbies
>this thread shows up
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>>343011849
>Being pressured

By who? Who is pressuring them? Do these people pressuring them hold any authority whatsoever? Can these people have the game banned? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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>>343011605
Self-censorship is a thing you dumbfuck

Especially when they fucking admit it
>So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, ‘This is not acceptable’”
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>>343011272

It's not okay when Nintendo does it.
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>>343000723
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>>343012262
Hell I don't even need the hair to look great, just don't have it fucking clip. Put some fucking effort in. Clipping is not aesthetically pleasing.
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>>343012167
>why is censorship the immediate assumption when a change is made?
Because it already has censorship and they've admitted to it.

Stop ignoring it.
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>mfw skintight clothing fetishist >
>mfw "muh censorship" butthurt
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>>343000049
it may have been censorship, but it also looks a lot better with the black latex. so, it could have just been a preference.
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>>343011702
Fuck off bodysuitfags
>>343011765
It looks shitty and half assed. Ignore your fetish and actually fucking look at it.
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>>343012167
A different anon, but to add onto this; this kind of feels like complaining about Nell's localization in Advance Wars 1 but ignoring the localization of the other characters as well as Sami's lack of localization changes. The western version of Advance Wars 1 clearly has a larger emphasis on a WW2 type visual and so while Sami seemed fine Nell was somewhat out of place. To bring it back to Street Fighter V, many characters are revealing, to assume that one character is changed because of censorship seems odd when there are already revealing characters in the game

https://tcrf.net/Advance_Wars
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>>343012338
>hold any authority
they don't need to. if a businessman thinks his product might sell less because of some controversy, he will feel pressured to change that.

if a comedian thinks his joke will be too offensive, he will change it

this is all censorship, it's holding back due to outside pressure, even if there's no authority imposing the change
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Because latex is my fetish.
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>>343000723

>that black on the inner tights


could you remove this too, please?
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>>343012357
Self-censorship is when a creator chooses to censor their content out of fear of reprisal from some authority, not because they want more people to play their game. You said yourself that the people pushing to have changes made would not even play the game, so why the fuck would they change it for them? Wanting your game to reach a wider audience so toning down sexual or violent themes is not Self-censorship. At this point I'm convinced this is just bait.

>Design a character
>Think design needs to change
>"Censorship!"
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>>343012338
>Do these people pressuring them hold any authority whatsoever?
>So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, ‘This is not acceptable’”
That is them being pressured. It's not by one specific person or a group of people but them in general not wanting to offend any one.

Pressure doesn't just come from authority.
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Not worth my energy.

>don't you like tits? what a fag

- On pc this will be easily remedied if I care to.
- Less flak from SJW types from Capcom is good for me.
- Skintight suit looks arguably better.

See? Literally 0 problems with this. At this point you're just taking issue on purpose.
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Why do these people get mad at these changes if it does not affect gameplay at all?
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>>343011106
Except it's not paranoid, in every instance where a costume was changed to cover up skin, there are always people saying they're okay with because it looks better anyways.
Just like in every other thread on /v/ in the last year.
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The censorship meme is the worst thing to happen to /v/ in a fucking while. It has essentially destroyed most discussion on this board.
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>>343011654
Self censorship is a conscious change made out of ones own agency, traditional censorship is one forced outside of ones own agency without their approval or consent.

The two are not comparable in any context outside of sharing a common terminology, as self censorship is out of your own freedom and choice, where as outside censorship is infringing on your freedom to make said choice.

You are arguing against their freedom of choice because you disagree with their decision, you ask why change something, the answer is why not? They are the ones calling the shots and making the decisions, ergo it's not true censorship. And you are arguing against their freedom of choice, whether it's SJW boogeyman or not, you are the one attempting to restrict their freedom because you disagree, and what does that sound similar too?
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>>343012338
>hold any authority
It is a business. They want to reach as many people as possible. Japanese devs as a whole have really shown to be very conscious of the Western market how how more and more people are complaining about sexuality. As such they change to reach as big an audience as possible.
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>>343012786
Except Capcom didn't change it did they? There are still sexual characters in the damn game. Juri's outfit is still sexy and she still behaves in a sultry manner. People who don't like sexual characters will still not like her design so if they are being pressured by "muh SJW's!" they're not doing a very good job of censoring themselves for their demands are they?
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>>343012456
I dont mind it on the lefts though
Still, better than the censored one
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>>343013007
ikr, new devil may cry should feature a black female obese dwarf as dante, just keep the gameplay the same
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>>343012060
>Isn't it just the regular costume and the skin one is the story one?
If you think thats the case then you're a fucking idiot. Look at everyone else's story outfit. They're proper costume changes and not adding a fucking layer of latex to some tits.
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>>343013007
Because its the only skin these children/manchildren get to see
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>>343000049
When did she get those melons???
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>>343013053
Completely.

Fucking goobers ruining everything yet again.
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>>343012456
>that lewd thigh window
Thanks anon
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>>343013051
And they're all from tumblr? Do they post in shifts?
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>>343012773
>to assume that one character is changed because of censorship seems odd when there are already revealing characters in the game
Because they've fucking admitted to it
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>>343013361
They have made no comment toward Juri on that subject (as far as I am aware of)
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>>343000723
Actually i've just noticed the rings around her ankles.

Wouldn't those fucking hurt if she kicked people?
Hell even moving around?
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they also changed her nails to black too. so its most likely just a design change overall. and it looks a lot better too.
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Where no censor can touch.
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>I like the censorship! I have a fetish for things that are less sexual! Thank you Capcom!
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>>343000723
I'm torn. I'm sad to see the exposed chest go but the bodystocking look is pretty sexy too.
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>>343013121
>they're not doing a very good job of censoring themselves
If you haven't noticed this is how every single one of the SFV censorship cases has been, very half-assed.
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>>343013059
You're wasting your time with your logic bro, no one here actually knows the definition of censorship. They need someone to blame for their virtual boobs being taken away from them.
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>>343000865
Depends, did they change him last minute, to avoid controversy?
Because it's obvious by the way the black clings to the breasts and the complete lack of texture on it and the way it was drawn on the one pic that, it was an a last minute change, probably to preempt any more controversy after what they just finished going through.
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>>343012456
>In a world without SJW

thanks for the edit
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>>343013565
Censorship
n.
My virtual boobs being taken away from me
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>>343012880
>Self-censorship is when a creator chooses to censor their content out of fear of reprisal from some authority
You keep making this into an authority thing when it isn't.
>so why the fuck would they change it for them?
Once again go back to the full statement
>“Our objective with ‘Street Fighter V’ is to start over from zero”, explains Ono. “We want the professional players and the casual fans of the series to return, but we also want to reach those who have never even touched a fighting game. So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, ‘This is not acceptable’”
>but we also want to reach those who have never even touched a fighting game.

>At this point I'm convinced this is just bait.
Fuck you
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>>343013467
>implying a skintight bodysuit is less sexual than exposed skin

This is entirely subjective.
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>>343000723
Looks a bit more generic though.
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>>343013624
autism
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>>343013430
They've admitted to past cases

It's only natural to assume thats the same for the current case
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>>343012786
Censorship is enforced removal of choice in what someone wants to display/do/say. Their freedom to express themselves is still upheld, they still have choice without authoritative reprisal, just because some choose not to stand up or behind their choices or what they want doesn't mean they are censored, they are self censoring, aka using their own agency and freedom of expression to alter what they present.

Peer pressure is by no means a standard in which we should quantify a person's free actions. To qualify them altering their choices as equating to authoritative enforcement that stifles your ability to express yourself is retarded. They have the choice, it isn't censorship, they chose to tone down to appeal to a wider audience, this isn't censorship this is design change from a perspective of economic growth, not change because of perceived economic decline from not changing, so self censorship doesn't even apply.
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>>343012735

Black goes with purple and pink senpai, it makes sense
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>>343013672
Covering yourself in several layers of suits is less sexual than exposed breasts, yes.
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>Vanilla costumes

What the fuck are you people bitching about. Fine, censorship sucks, but do you understand how 14 year old you sound complaining about lack of cleavage in a game with a shitton of HD cleavage.

This is literally her first costume, we havent seen her alt, and her DLCs have potential too. Quit the shit.

It looks better now anyway.
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>>343013007
Because gameplay isn't the 100% the only thing that matter. Aesthetics and visuals matter too. If SFV was complete visual downgrade from SFIV but still a better overall game people would still complain. Hell look at the huge amount of people who shit on KoFXIV for "IT LOOKS LIKE A PS2 GAME LOL". Are you telling me it never bothered you that SFV has horrible clipping. But who cares because it doesn't effect gameplay!

If they're going to change it at least to make it look half-assed.
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Latex is winning.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10604434/r
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>>343013630
It's not about TnA you dolt
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>>343014079

its not even latex, its some super god tier under-armor bodysuit

latex would have a shine to it
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>>343013837
Incorrect. Censorship is when something is abstained from view for political or moral reasons. If they actually were expressing themselves for creative reasons they would have gone with the originally intended design.
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>>343014218

things change all the time during development anon

1 crappy drawing doesnt mean shit. reminder that ibuki doesnt have the armor in story mode
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>>343014162
>only see people sperg about this whenever it involves tits or asses being censored
i think that's actually exactly what it's about
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>>343000049
the best argument against it not being censorship is that it actually looks better.

Could still be censorship but you never know, they could have genuinely thought "hey when we put latex here it goes better with the color scheme"
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>>343000049
I prefer skin tight bodysuits but it is censorship and they might not change it for the better next time.
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>>343014218
See
>>343013059
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>>343014079
It's not even latex. It's a fucking black void covering her abdomen. Also, saying a design is somehow better because it appeals to a small, fringe group of fetishists doesn't make sense, since literall 98% of the population doesn't share your same perversion.
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>>343014345
>>343013059

False
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>>343014329
What if they just think it fits better with her character archetype and current aesthetics?
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>>343014345
>Self censorship isn't censorship because reasons

Sorry, but you can't lawyer your way into convincing people censorship equates to creativity. It's done out of fear, not art.
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>>343013991
>but do you understand how 14 year old you sound complaining about lack of cleavage in a game with a shitton of HD cleavage.
Because it isn't about the cleavage. Its the principle of the matter.
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>>343000997
You should just paint your own toenails if that's what you get off to.
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>>343014531
Great post anon, well thought-out arguement.
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>>343014197
Have you seen the video? It's shiny as fuck.
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This censorship thing been going on since Street Fighter Alpha
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>>343014320
>only see people sperg about this whenever it involves tits or asses being censored
Then you missed it when story content in Bravely Second got taken out
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>>343014591
That's not what the post said, you'd know that if you actually read it.
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>>343014680
Your argument of "self censorship isn't censorship" doesn't contain any more thought.
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>>343000049
>Latex under skimpy clothing
Perfect
>Latex with exposed skin
Amazing
>Pure Latex
Great
>Normal clothing with exposed skin
Good
>Latex under normal clothing
Shit
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>>343006443
You witness changes in characters design and you project the reasons behind those decision.

You project that the character design was changed due to cesorship. The existence of Bonita in the exact same game proves that you're full of shit.
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>>343014749
Mah nig. I think you're the first to bring up Rose. She gave me the bodystocking fetish.
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>>343014324
>the best argument against it not being censorship is that it actually looks better.
It doesn't
>>343014329
>they might not change it for the better next time.
Is the problem

It's a slippery slope. Don't complain now, go ahead. You'll be bitching when something you actually care about gets changed then.
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>>343007779
> Why the fuck would I be here right now if I didn't care and didn't like the game.

Why do white girls get "upset" about racism on Tumblr? Because you're an immature cunt and you want an excuse to act indignant about something. You like to complain and feel like a victim.
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>>343014810
>self censorship isn't censorship

Never at any point did he say that, reading comprehension is important anon.
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>>343008579
>They designed a character, realised they weren't happy with the design and so decided to make changes.
Let's speculate a little, why might they have changed the character?
>Look at Laura, R. Mika and Cammy for crying out loud
All characters that they got some complaints about too, but it was probably to late to change them in any real way, this character though had yet to be released and possibly future characters will also be treated the same way.
>This isn't censorship
It isn't directly but what do you think was the intent behind all those people pointing fingers at them accusing them of sexism, harmful depictions of women, making women feel unwelcome, calling them perverts, immoral and so on?
What do you think their end goal is when they do these things?
All you have to do is create an oppressive atmosphere where people will be afraid of being attacked so they will self censor themselves, just out of fear of potential accusations.
This shit works, which is why the journalists write those kind of articles, why they use social media, why they make accusations of misogyny. All companies are worried about public relations and that is the avenue repressive people use.
You are a disingenuous person, to completely ignore the context of these changes, to not even bring up recent events.
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>>343014749
How was Rose ever censored?
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>>343014551
Go ahead then

How does a skintight bodysuit fit Juri's character more? A character who is already shown to enjoy wearing revealing outfits.
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>>343013786
But it's inconsistent. It is true that Ono stated that they are trying to widen the appeal (with the butt-slap being the topic this was about), but at the same time there are plenty of characters that are revealing, to state that this is 100% censorship (or 100% not censorship) seems either dishonest or foolish to me (unless the argument is about the definition of censorship, then the visuals are not necessarily the point. What is important then is that there is a change and the discussion is centered around whether or not a change can be labeled as censoring).
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I'd be more concerned with her face.
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>>343015060
He is just saying it because "m-muh bodysuits!"

Ignore the disgusting fetishist
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>>343014218
Or it was an intentional design not out of fear of reprisal for political reasons, but to appeal to a broader political spectrum for the intent of making more money. Aka not censorship. They didn't abstain because of fear, they changed for appeal, that inherently is not censorship
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THE CENSORS HAVE WON! WOMEN HAVE YOUR HOBBY NOW, /v/! GET OUT!
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>>343015069
The cast of characters and their outfits were designed before game release. Now Ono and his team have had a chance to react to the controversies with the DLC characters.
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>>343015064
>Skintight suit not reveal
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What you morons forget is that given how incredibly risk averse japanese devs are, this bitching about a character's bodysuit will just make them NOT add characters like that in the future

All this shit over some deviantart tier art in story mode made by some dude who had 1 week to get it done and was paid 5 dollars for his trouble

boggles the mind
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>yfw the japanese version doesn't have the latex
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>>343014819
>Latex under normal clothing
>Shit
This is my problem

It looks horrible and half assed
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>>343015179
That's just another way of saying that they're scared of controversy. Covering up a character to avoid possible public outrage is not an aspect of creative design.
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>>343015215
Yeah and Juri's design is before her release too. The character designs for the original characters were revealed long before the actual games release. If they had wanted to change those they could have very easily done so in the same way that Juri's has been changed. Hell they changed the camera angle on the buttslap before the official release of the game.
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hey look another tumblr campaign on 4chan

what is it that you people are trying to accomplish? you realize that you can't grow support here because you're stupid, right?
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>>343015064

She already wears that kind of stuff in 4, its just a full body one now

Or do you think her legs are pink?
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>>343000049
Wait, you're complaining about her, and not Urien? Urien was blatant censorship. It's not okay if a woman's body gets censored but okay if a man's is!

You're double standards are shit, and I'm not going to care anymore when /v/ cries about censorship, when certain types of censorship are better than others.
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>>343014591
Saying they did it to appeal to a wider audience, which it was, is inherently not censorship.

It would only be censorship if they changed it because they thought they would lose money or be worse off, they did it specifically to make more money, making it an appeal, not abstaining.
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>>343014826
>The existence of Bonita in the exact same game proves that you're full of shit
How when they've ADMITTED to past cases of censorship.
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>>343015479
This is all /v/'s fault. /v/'s retardation in rejecting and satirizing "lol we r leegun" and thus not fighting for its own interests led to it getting steamrolled by people who ARE willing to fight for their interests
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>>343015003
1v1 me right now mother fucker
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>>343015501
No one cares if a man gets censored because we're men. Duh. Women can go bitch about that. We'll only bitch if women chars are censored.
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>>343015474
You can't redesign an entire cast of characters and all of their alt outfits a few months before the game is released. Changing a single character before she is finished, however, is more doable.
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>>343015494
Look at every above the waist. I could argue Juri enjoys revealing skin, particularly her breast.
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>>343012456
Glorious
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Alright, lets be real for a second. We all know the general gist of the 8th generation by now. Games have been releasing with watered-down content and features since 2013. Most of the games we get nowadays are sequels, rehashed and repainted doubles from the last game in the series. any new IP's we get seem bland and boring with very few exceptions. and the one thing everyone talks about is resolution. You either get 1080p at 30 fps or 720p at 60 fps, and if you have a beefy PC, good for you, but you are still just a minority and dont reflect most of gaming culture.

But looking away from that, in more ways than anyone could imagine, gaming diminishes more every day. It seems like every month now, we get more bad news. Games are being delayed, some completely cancelled, hell even entire companies shut down or at least get divided up. Hacker groups are always trying to shut down servers for online games. The PS Vita was discontinued last year and sony has pulled out of handheld gaming. Gaming has become more expensive with some AAA titles charging over $100 for the full experience. Some major companies that people have trusted for years have even been making shady business moves. Microsoft is seeming to be merging Xbox with PC, Sony tried to trademark the term "lets play", and Nintendo.... alright, nintendo never really does anything wrong, but theres definitely stuff they dont get right. and others have just gone over to mobile platforms to make easy cash.
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Not a single one of you are higher then ultra bronze
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>>343015535
Any evidence to back that up?
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>>343015727

I'm not disagreeing, just saying its something she could wear

Shes all about the cock tease
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>>343015447
They aren't scared of controversy, they consciously made the change in effect to take advantage of a different political climate in an attempt to sell more copies. It's what they literally said they were doing, it's not censorship anymore than changing from telling black jokes to telling Muslim jokes is censorship.
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>>343015069
>But it's inconsistent. It is true that Ono stated that they are trying to widen the appeal (with the butt-slap being the topic this was about), but at the same time there are plenty of characters that are revealing
Thats the problem, it IS inconsistent.

I don't think Ono and everyone else on the dev team know how to handle western localization at all when it comes to sexual content or not.
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>>343015447
>muh boogie-man
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>>343015501
You're full of shit and I'll prove it, succinctly.
Was there any reason to believe that Urien was not intentionally meant to be that way? No, we are getting the character the devs wanted.
Was there any reason to believe that Juri was not intentionally meant to be that way? Yes, the artwork has the chest exposed and the model has a hastily done rework to it.
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>already revealing what the DLC characters look like

And there it goes all the mystery and hype prior to the character release announcement, nice job Capcom, you're basically killing your own game.
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>>343014953
>It doesn't
actually it does
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>>343015906
>it's not censorship anymore than changing from telling black jokes to telling Muslim jokes is censorship.
And thats where we disagree. Plenty of people here think that IS censorship.
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>>343015494
It's more similar too this outfit
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>>343015865
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/street-fighter-5-r-mika-and-cammy-scenes-edited-to/1100-6434224/
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>>343015515
You're just repeating the same dumb thing over again. Attempting to appease a group of people out of fear of backlash is definitively self-censorship. That's not going to change by pretending the censorship is somehow noble.

And for the record, this type of censorship NEVER succeeds in appealing to a wider audience. It just causes less people to like the game because your game doesn't look as good.
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>>343016039
this only adds to it, since they only teased with some of the stuff that the characters would be able to do.

or you're a retard that doesn't play games and think that appearance is the only thing that people get excited about with these characters.
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>>343016010
>muh boogie-man
> So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, ‘This is not acceptable’”
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>>343007396
God, I loved this scene from the final so much, it was so smooth and abrupt.
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>>343015501
If you care, then start a thread about it. Others who care will bitch with you, and then you'll have accomplished nothing but at least you can take solace in the fact that there are like minded people

but to say "you didn't mention this other censorship so I'm going to denounce ALL anti-censorship sentiment" is retarded. /v/ is comprised of many people with many different priorities. We should all hate censorship in all it's forms, but if you just say "why do I only see things you care about and not me?" then you should either go somewhere else or start your own threads
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>its obvious they changed it, they just colored that part black!
>maybe an alt or mod will make it skin colored

Do the few guys saying this in here not realized that her under armor isn't just that part colored differently? Its actually modeled.

You can see the edge of it around her neck.
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>>343015686
Why not? If they were worried about outside pressure and were afraid of offending newer players then surely they would have made the effort? The alt costumes weren't available on the actual release of the game either, they could have made changes to them. They could have given Cammy a pair of pants to wear or given Laura an undershirt. If these SJW's really do put the fear into them then I doubt they would have release a character like Laura in the state she's currently in.
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>>343008419
>I HATE CHANGE REEEEEEE
Literal autism.
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>>343016039
They're in the cinematic story mode coming out on Friday. This was a good way to reveal them than just seeing them in screenshots on Friday.
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