http://nintendoeverything.com/miyamoto-says-nintendo-is-keeping-quiet-on-nx-due-to-a-certain-idea/
>Miyamoto stated: “In terms of NX, there’s an idea that we’re working on. That’s why we can’t share anything at this point, and I don’t want to comment on the other companies. If it was just a matter of following advancements in technology, things would be coming out a lot quicker.”
I hope you're all ready for Sony and Microsoft to get BTFO by Miyamoto's next genius gimmick.
>>342985689
Reggie: The American market isn't interested in outdated technology. Remember the WiiU?
Miyamoto: Fine. Let's delay the NX until 2018, and run a calculator CPU with TWICE as much processing power
Reggie: Say no more.
if it isn't BotW in 4k@60fps then i ain't fuckin' interested, nintender
>>342985689
Is this about the NX Rumor that it will use Cartridges?
I hope not.
THE GAMES WILL RELEASE WITH BOTH A CD AND A CART
THE CD GOES INTO YOUR CONSOLE TO PLAY AT HOME
THE CART GOES INTO THE HANDHELD CONTROLLER TO PLAY ON THE GO
People are going to use this as an excuse to shitpost that NX is going to be gimmicky and HURR DURR BARELY DIFFERENT FROM WII U NINTENDOOM
Having a new concept =/= gimmicky
and we already know the NX is going to be atleast on par with PS4 due to using the most modern chips
The delay to march was to make it even more modern of a chip
>there’s an idea that we’re working on
It's one of these
>streaming NX games through your phone playing it literally anywhere
>games come as amiibos instead of cartridges
>it will be more than 100 gb
>paid monthly online subscription
>>342986991
I'm sure third party developers are going to be fucking thrilled with having to develop one game for two separate platforms simultaneously.
>>342985689
So another Underpowered piece of shit incoming?
FOOT CONTROLLER
>>342986682
Why wouldn't you want cartridges?
Optical media is shit and Nintendo is never ever going to go purely digital.
>>342987293
they'll already have to do that for the neo, at least two different versions of the same game. same with the scorpio, I would imagine.
And when it comes to having to develop another full additional version for the hand held NX version, i think they'd probably just rather cut that shit and not deal with nintendo.
>>342987293
Third parties are already developing shit for PS4, PC, and Xbone
Making another one isnt a difference
and the console handheld hyrbid are 2 seperate entities, it's just the manufacturing that will be different, which isnt even their problem
>>342987293
They won't, and that's exactly why it's genius; the NX is a single platform that runs the same game both on a console unit and/or a mobile unit.
Nintendo is dead hahahHAHAHA
>>342987378
Having a gimmick doesnt mean it's underpowered
We already know that NX will be using modern chips
At worse itll be weaker than Neo and Scoprio but not by a long margin, if anything it'll be near Neo
people forget the 4.5 terrbyte rumor
The secret's in the frosting. But I'll never tell.
>>342987510
I thought the neo and scorpio were just the same consoles just with extra hardware for displaying in 4K resolution and only for that.
They're going to do some AR gimmick I can feel it.
Pokemon Go is only the start.
>>342987293
You seem to be lost
It's not making 2 different versions of the same game
It's getting the same game to run on 2 different things without effort
It's the complete opposite situation and the best case scenario
>>342987510
Considering how NoA has royally fucked up most of their recent second party games I doubt they're going to have much other than the usual first party games. I doubt NX will outsell the Wii U.
>>342987523
third parties actually sale on those things
>making another one isn't a difference
then why didn't they make "another one" for the for the Ouya ? for the Shield ? for the Wii U ?
faulty logic
>>342987724
That's what Neo is
Scorpio however seems like an overall jump, 6 Terrabytes is a lot
but the majority are basically half gen skips
It's what the Wii U is to 7th gen
>>342985689
Post yfw all of the NX rumors gathered so far turn out to be 100% false and Nintendo was putting us on the ruse cruise the whole time, with the NX turning out to be something completely different.
>>342986991
Why the fuck wouldnt they just use the 1 same cart for both?
>>342987510
Stop typing my mans
They'll develop one game it will run on both
That's literally the point
>>342987802
Anything can outsell the Wii U at this point.
They could localize the Famicom Disk System for North America tomorrow and it would perform better.
>>342987841
You misunderstand
The NX will do doubt be on par with current/half gen skip consoles
Meaning third parties shouldnt have a problem transitioning their works
Wii U, Ouya and shield have a noticable hardware gap that they have to build it from scratch
>>342987927
Because how else would the mobile unit run the game while you're out of the house when the cd is in your console at home?
>>342987659
>At worse itll be weaker than Neo and Scoprio but not by a long margin.
This was the problem with WiiU and look what happened, I really wanna have the incense to buy another Nintendo home console but this ain't helping at all.
NX HAS to be at minimum as powerful as Neo.
>>342988062
So Nintendo can force you to buy the same game twice to get 2 carts
>>342988028
As far as I can tell the NX has nothing going for it except another hardware gimmick. Zelda is going to be the biggest launch title and it's multiplat, and there's not going to be any third party support. Any second party games are going to sell like shit because they keep butchering them.
>>342988029
>hybrid handheld console
>"let them fight in their red ocean" - Reggie
>"idea"
>on par
its gimmick vol 2 anon
The idea is that it only has, and will only ever have, one game. But the NX version of BotW will go on forever, like a huge, complex Animal Crossing. All of Nintendo will continually work on providing it with a steady stream of content, and it will have a monthly fee.
>>342988186
The Wii U was much much weaker than the PS4 and Xbox One.
if the NX is just slightly less powerful, it should be fine.
>>342988186
Are you implying the Wii u is not weaker than the ps4 or come by a long margin?
Careful, Miyamoto. You don't want to end up like Iwata, do you?
>>342988245
>reggie
>thought it was a good idea to censor an extremely niche japanese game about lewd idols
>this is the man they put in charge of their entire american division
we're in for a ride.
>>342985689
Who gives a fuck, it will sell less then 10 units.
>>342986991
Nintendo distributing physical cross-play? Only if games cost $99.
>>342988028
>Anything can outsell the Wii U at this point
It probably wont though
>mfw dual screen garbage on a console AGAIN
hooray it works for your handhelds but can you look at Wii U and stop with this shit already
Games will be stored in/sold as Amiibos. Screencap this.
>>342987724
there's supposed to be a "neo mode" and a "base ps4 mode" for all games on the ps4 after the neo launch, one that takes advantage of the new hardware and the other that runs on the base ps4. it's not just a matter of upscaling to 4k (i doubt the neo will do 4k gaming)
>>342988449
Treehouse censors everything, so they look busy, and won't get downsized by HR
>>342987939
then they're either going to have a handheld more powerful than is possible, or the home version is going to have handheld graphics.
>>342988296
>>342988323
What I'm saying is that Wii being weaker than Xbone/PS4 was its coffin
>if the NX is just slightly less powerful, it should be fine.
No it won't because devs will find a way to bitch about how inferior Nintendo is and won't waste resources (even if it's copy-paste) on developing for it, you know it, I know it, everyone on the freaking world knows that.
>>342985689
I swear to nob gobbling fuck if they put out another weak gimmick console I'm going to fuck Miyamoto's ass with a razorblade covered bat.
>>342988585
Triple screen
>>342986991
Why not a CD in a shock-proof case like Minidisc or UMD?
Hi-MD was basically a tiny removable hard-drive.
>>342987802
>Considering how NoA has royally fucked up most of their recent second party games
What the ever loving fuck are you talking about?
The only game you guys never shut up about is Fates and there's absolutely nothing wrong it it outside you fucking Gooks
It's a hybrid handheld/console that will play the entire upcoming Nintendo library, which means no more game droughts since Nintendo can develop for essentially 1 platform now.
>>342988809
>devs
Developers dont pick what system they develop for, idiot, the publisher does
>>342988872
>fates
>fatal frame
>xenoblade
>smt x fe
>>342985689
>gimmick box that is still underpowered
This is just damage control because of the neo and Scorpio I bet no was just an underwhelming piece of shit and now they are scrambling to find a big gimmick because if they made a powerful console their devs would t know what to do with it. Nintendo developers have relied on cheap gimmicks, graphics that 'can't be helped' and nostalgia for years they don't know how to make a game fit for the current year
>>342986682
Why would that be the "certain idea"?
3DS uses cartridges.
>>342988186
No The Wii U's problem was that it was slightly more powerful than 360 and PS3
it wasnt even close to PS4 and Xbone
But we know that NX will be near Neo
>>342988809
Wii U's GPU was like 5 times less powerful than the PS4's.
>>342988887
Ohboy, now every dev gets to ignore real hardware and develop only for the weaker half because it saves money. BRAVO.
>>342985689
>Wii Music
>Demoed at E3
>Released in a timely manner
>Good reviews by normies
>Sold thousands of copies
Nintendo did nuffin wrong.
>>342985689
>I hope you're all ready for Sony and Microsoft to get BTFO by Miyamoto's next genius gimmick
Just like the tablet meme? That was far behind in capabilities compared to every screen on the market including fucking huawei, a Chinese company?
Miyamoto is either delusional, a bluffing con, or both
>>342987415
>bunion gaming is the future!
>>342988887
so instead of having handheld stuffs selling well on its own now it will be hide behind a Wii 2U paywall
nice
>>342988854
>UMD
>shock proof
>>342988809
Wii was weaker than 360/PS3 but it got a ton of third party games. Nintendo fucked up marketing for the Wii U and third parties bailed when they realized it would never do Wii numbers.
>>342987293
They already make 9 different versions.
>>342989061
There will likely be standalone models, with the hybrid being the deluxe version.
>>342988887
I love it when you fanboys pull rumours literally out of your ass, and base your entire expectations and arguments around them
"Oh Nintendo is actually teaming up with Super Deepthroat for a Peach VR sex simulator, I know it's real, Jesus told me after he kissed me"
Reminder that Miyamoto is not working on the NX
>>342988963
You need to stop being dillusional to think Localization ever affects sales
and your specifically choosing those games
Nintendo has other second party devs whose had games unaltered
Alpha Dream, HAL, and even Grezzo is finally allowed to make their own IP Ever Oasis instead of Zelda remakes
>>342988585
post more of her
>>342985689
It better be powerful handheld that docks and turns into a console with even better graphics, i hated Nintendo ever since the Wii and I wouldn't mind going back if this is their idea.
If it's a traditional console like the ps4 and xbone forget about it.
If it's wii motion waggle shit and tablet crap forget about it.
>>342989182
Reminder Miyamoto is a walking idea guy and in japan senior executives are revered heavily and have to have their ideas honored.
No I'm not kidding.
>>342989182
Thank god.
He should be in a long reflection period for what he did to Starfox.
>>342989227
Localization does affect sales when the target audience is very niche and not retarded.
>It's not the waves that count, it's the movement of the sea
>>342989363
You think he really cares? He's long since mentally checked out. He just throws ideas around now because its what he gets paid for.
Do you think he slapped his wife when he saw the Starfox reviews?
>>342989275
>want a gimmick
>dont want a gimmick
make up your fucking mind
>>342989650
>implying he even looked at the reviews
>implying anyone at Nintendo pays any attention to feedback
>>342985689
Will Miyamoto ever stop with this autism. Why is it the Japanese can't follow a market cycle to its natural conclusion and instead keep on released aborted fetus consoles.
>>342985689
I'm officially worried.
I bet miyamoto fucks a lot of women on tindr
The NX will be a fun system. It may not have super graphics, but it will be fun.
>>342989449
i bet it's revenge for that britbong starfox developer stealing away his daughter into wedlock
>>342985689
It's a fucking portable. Oh god whyyyyyyyy.
>>342985689
>It's another gimmick console
Goddamnit
>>342990219
Fun doesn't keep afloat a company anon, if Nintendo really wanna make it up for that trainwreck that WiiU is they need to drop off that Family machine bs.
>>342987841
>then why didn't they make "another one" for the for the Ouya ? for the Shield ? for the Wii U ?
because they have 1/5th of the install base of the others
>>342985689
>It's another Nintendo tries to innovate but ends up making their console have retarded controls episode
>>342990457
>Fun doesn't keep afloat a company anon
tell that to the Wii
>>342989323
They took him off hardware after the Wii U, so any "ideas" he mentions will likely not be his. Which is a good thing because Miyamoto prioritizes "uniqueness" instead of what would be fun to play
>>342990457
If the games are not fun consumers will not buy, yes?
>>342990596
Wii U's controls were fine.
>>342990457
>they need to drop off that Family machine bs
oh the same thing that kept them afloat for 127 years?
>>342990603
Wii was a literal lucky strike and won't happen again.
Amiibos are the controllers. You play the game by moving amiibos around on a stage like playing with action figures.
>>342990603
Tell that to THQ
>>342989747
>implying
>>342990678
Yeah I sure love having a big brick as a controller. Feels great.
>>342990814
NES was a lucky strike too.
This shit is unpredictable and no man in a suit or neckbeard in a chair will ever accurately predict it. Just gotta wait it out and see what happens.
>>342990869
It does feel good, anonymous, it's light and your hands fall on the buttons in a perfect neutral position.
>>342990667
I'm gonna say something: I find WiiU fairly enjoyable and really fun bu the correlation between fun and all the shit you miss because is not on Nintendo is pretty high.
The console can be fun at it will sell but sooner than later it will suffer the same destiny that Nintendo has been suffering the past 2 gens.
>>342990821
The n64 Smash intro foretold the future....
>>342986991
>CD
I'll sculpta statue for the bastard that can compress a modern AAA game to fit into a CD.
>>342991697
demakes will be the trend of 2017
get those chisels ready
>>342986991
A handheld more powerful than the Wii U?
Sure, that will be $699 USD
>>342991828
Aren't all console games demakes?
>>342989363
>for what he did to Starfox
make a creative new entry gameplay wise to mixed reviews instead of rehashing it?
>>342992089
how is that a pun you retarded faggot
>>342987201
>>games come as amiibos instead of cartridges
honestly I'd be down for that
>>342992321
You act like I give a shit
>>342992469
if you don't meme properly why meme at all
>>342992142
Everything minus the asinine control scheme was a rehash, it's the third time he's remade Starfox 1.
>>342992142
Except it's literally a rehash of SF64. Like, not rehash in the way /v/ uses it in that every game that has something remotely similar to the last makes the whole game a rehash, but a rehash in that it's literally the same levels and story as SF64.
>>342992469
Memes are serious, you piece of shit. Do it right or not at all.
>>342991223
my hands are going to fall on your face in a perfect neutral position
I wonder what pointless gimmick they've got in store for us this time
>>342985689its over
>>342988062
having two save files for one game ruins the point of being able to play it at home and on the go, and nintendo is too conservative to offer online saves
>>342989182
No he is
He's currently working on Pikmin 4 and the next 3D mario both of which are translating to NX
>>342985689
rumor is it's a mario onahole
>>342989323
source
>>342989182
>>342992142
He's not wrong
As shit as Star Fox is
It's still a better revival than previous games
and improved sequel will do wonders
>>342989323
If it makes you feel any better
he encouraged the Splatoon devs to make good character designs if they don't want it to be a Mario game
it was more of a threat, but still he was the one who pushed them to create the Inklings
Beta designs wouldnt be as popular
>>342990821
Nintendo MOBA confirmed!
>>342993184
Who said you have to have two separate saves? The Wii U GamePad is already capable of turning itself on and communicating data with the Wii U automatically and the NX GamePad (???) could easily use that to sync saves.
>>342985689
>more gimmicks that literally nobody wants
why do they fucking keep doing this shit? JUST MAKE VIDEOGAMES NINTENDO.
I am not a tech wizard but I don't see why the handheld couldn't just autorun games at the lowest settings possible, except that some devs are lazy and lowest settings are barely less demanding than highest.
>>342987064
lmao look at this delusional drone. Nintendo is the only company that incessantly forces "new ideas" into their systems which always hamstring the console. they do it to capture kids and families enamored by the novelty who don't give a shit about games. if nintendo gave a fuck about core fans they would focus on what those fans care about, which is games first and foremost. but nintendo has decided to stop making games except for shovelware and a zelda every decade to show off the latest gimmick
>>342994152
Sounds like a pain having to do that everytime you bring it outside.
>>342994482
The NX is already confirmed to not be hamstringed though
The Wii U as a gimmick was fine but nobody wanted to develop for it because of the inferior hardware
>>342994412
Merely downscaling the resolution could help a lot. Obviously that wouldn't be all, but I think it's doable if they just don't upgrade their resolution too much, which they haven't done ever really for their portables.
>>342994694
>The Wii U as a gimmick was fine
Not even Nintendo thinks this
>>342994248
gimmicks are the future of consoles
>>342985689
Why does miyamoto think that no one else knows about vr?
>>342986991
So just like PS4/Vita games?
>>342994412
>>342994782
You guys need to understand that third parties want to limit as much work as possible
The majority don't care enough to bother to work for the tech to work
>>342986991
This wouldn't work. I like my idea better.
>console/handheld hybrid
>the handheld part doubles as a controller
>the handheld/controller is much smaller than the Wii U pad
>the handheld has all the expected buttons, sticks a modern controller is expected to have
>the games are put into the handheld/controller unless you want to play on the console portion
>this will lead to easily done splitscreen/lan since the controllers double as a handheld and someone can get the tv if they wanted
>emphasis on both digital and cartridge
Assuming they do this it can turn out really well. The console is essentially more like a micro console. Similar to what Sony did in fact.
>>342994801
It's an okay idea for like, menus and shit, but at that point it's a really unnecessary chunk of hardware. And fucking awful if it expects you to do anything with the second screen during any action.
>>342988062
Are you stupid or making a joke?
>>342994801
My point was it's not hard to make a game as it's not that hard to use or ignore the gamepad
Tropical Freeze ignored it entirely outside off tv play
>mfw the big new change is that they're dumping powerPC.
If it's shit, it deserves to fail.
And Nintendo has another 3 years to come up with something good.
>>342996575
I'll be static if they just upgrade from the shitty PPC 750 architecture they have locked themselves onto for 15 years.
They're literally running on Pentium 2 era technology in 2016.
>>342992640
>only the names and look of the planets are the same, not the actual levels
>all the same guys
>>342997318
>operating on literally ancient hardware.
>decide to upgrade to modern software.
>find that it takes a lot longer than usual to make 'HD' videogames.
Nintendo is the smartest company in the world, I tell you.
>>342987293
I think the bigger concern is having the customers buy the same fucking shit twice. We've had cross-buy since PS3 with Vita and Steam with Windows, Linux and OSX.
>>342994943
This unironically desu senpai
>>342997747
If you put it that way, it just makes me want to commit sudoku.
Nintendo needs more third party exclusives and to appeal to the casual audience
Wii success was because of the Wiimote and the casuals and we got several great exclusives
I have been talking with the boyfriend of my gf and we agreed that Nintendo needs to offer something new instead of more of the same.
>>342988186
but neo and scorpio are premium versions, ps4 and xbone are still being sold. if the NX is slightly weaker than the upgrades then what's the problem?
oh boy I can't wait for the next gimmick hardware to be a weight around its neck.
>>342998454
>if the NX is slightly weaker than the upgrades
And how the fuck are they going to achieve that while sticking to Pentium 2 tier processors?
They are waiting for sony to post the PS4K info.
Considering sony can't do shit by themselves, they always lag behind on purpose just to undercut everyone.
Since their latest consoles had controllers based off real objections, like a tablet and a remote control, what other every day item can they use effectively?
>>342985689
why do nintendo have to be different?
can't they just do what everyone else does and just have their own selection of exclusives?
>>342999056
>They are waiting for sony to post the PS4K info.
It takes 2-3 years to design/alter a new microchip in the size of +billion transistors.
>>342998454
>>342999045
how do you know what hardware any of these next systems have?
>>342998219
I cannot understand why they're so fucking wet for their ancient powerPC.
>>342999309
my dad works for nintendo
>>342999309
With Sony and Microsoft it's easy, you just look at the latest technology AMD has.
With Nintendo you have to look 1½ decades into the past and see what IBM had to offer at that time.
>>342999309
Nintendo isn't gonna move away from powerPC, so that's a given.
The other consoles have already been said will be 'xxxx times' more powerful than the old versions.
Unless Nintendo gets with the times, they'll be left behind again.
>>342999239
>everything now is third party hardware adapted to run at lower temperatures so consoles don't fry.
>implying you have to wait that much now
This isn't 1990.
>>342993758
>implying you wouldn't play a nintendo MOBA
>>342999239
I think AMD states that it's around 18 months for a semi-custom design to come to market. I think that includes the whole process, i.e. not 18 months from the absolute moment of finalization, but just 18 months for all of it.
I think Sony is pretty much locked in to what they're doing, but the other poster does have a point in terms of recent and past behavior from Sony.
>>342999521
>Nintendo isn't gonna move away from powerPC, so that's a given.
and you know this because?
>>342999558
It was faster in 1990s, the processors were also more simple back then.
>>342999521
>Nintendo isn't gonna move away from PowerPC
Ignoring that you don't actually have any insight into their chip set choices, PowerPC isn't the problem. They could stand to move on from the 750, but in and of itself the Power architecture isn't a problem.
>>342999484
I hope the next PS/Xbox systems are less alike next gen.
>>342999521
I'll be called a retard for this I'm sure but I hate the idea that consoles should only be more powerful than their predecessor, especially if (like current gen Xbone/PS4) it results in the competitors with nearly identical hardware with the same architecture as a PC. I'm beginning to question what purpose such console systems serve when you may as well buy a PC for almost all of the same games with better performance and other features. To me, consoles need extra features of their own, or at very least a very strong library like a lot of hot-sellers of the past had achieved - nowadays, people buy into the promise of games rather than actual games.
>>342999056
Sony's made their intentions very clear that they are now chasing after the "Lifestyle Brand" audience, want to be the gaming version of Apple and are going so far as to say they see PC gaming as a threat to their ecosystem. So much they are making the neo so people buy multiplats on PS4 Neo instead of PC when PS4 starts lagging in performance to cheaper PC parts (Which happened a long while back. Say, November 2013).
Arrogant Sony is back, baby.
>>342999239
18 months is the typical timeframe with specs locked about 8-10 months from launch. Sony have their Neo specs locked since April and Nintendo will have had a solid "Blueprint" finalized with only small changes able to be made in reaction like the RAM and CPU. The GPU is likely designed and locked in for NX at this point. Nintendo will likely have a final spec by the end of the summer.
>>342985689
>gimmick
Dead on Arrival
>>342999937
>I hope the next PS/Xbox systems are less alike
You would need to wait for PS5 and Xbox Two for that.
The PS4's success (smaller/cheaper/faster) has ensure the Scorpio follows the PS4's design principles, and ignore the Xbox One's.
>>342987510
>PC game has a multitude of graphical settings
HOLY SHIT A DOZEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE SAME GAME
>>342985689
well it all depends on if this time arounds gimmick is gonna be good (like dual screens in the ds and motion controls in the wii or bad (like the 3d in the 3ds or the touchscreen controller in the wii u) then
>>343000030
well sony tried being a 'premium' brand smartphone and tv manufacturer already and they didn't do that well
nintendo is the apple of consolemakers and much more of a household name and nothing can be done about that
>>343000149
So why would MS make out the Scorpio to be some powerhouse in their E3 presentation?
Although, they have lied before...
>>343000454
Probably because it is one.
>>342999773
Because they've been using it forever, and hate new things, and by new things, I mean very old things in today's world, such as AMD APUs.
>>343000030
There is no reason to buy a console in today's world, and there never will be one. Consoles are plagued by the same issues as PCs as well, but don't have anything to make up for it.
>go to muh rockstop to buy the latest entry in the yearly call of dark souls: medal of HD.
>put it into playstationbone u.
>please wait while we install 50 gigs of bullshit and uncompressed sound files.
>okay, it's done. Please wait while we download the day one 12 gig patches.
>please wait while we verify your DLC.
>please wait while we apply the emergency multiplayer latency patch.
>now you must update your dashboard software.
>please restart your wiistation HD scorpio.
>finally done.
>xbox station controller's out of battery..
>go to the store to buy some new ones.
>finally get online to play.
>shit graphics.
>shit framerate.
>shit connectivity.
>8v8 maximum.
>anal stick aiming just isn't very good.
>xbone live gets hacked halfway into the match, cutting the online experience short.
>>343000149
Considering the Xbone's hardware was designed by a chinese team told to make it cheap and power efficient and very few developers were consulted about it. It's unsurprising they decided to use the same principles as Sony consulting developers. The difference just being that Sony gave devs a proposal with different machines (At one point the PS4 was going to be 1.5TF with 4GB GDDR5 + 4GB GDDR3 + 38MB EDRAM). Microsoft has developers consulting before it was even put into production.
>>343000817
>please wait while we install 50 gigs of bullshit and uncompressed sound files.
Sony is doing some clever stuff with their blurays.
They are partitioned into smaller bites so you can start up and play the game as soon as the first partition is installed.
>>342987064
>Having a new concept =/= gimmicky
No, that's pretty much entirely what gimmick actually means.
A gimmick is a hook, something that sets something apart from similar things. Something entirely for the purpose of being different for the sake of not being seen as the same as other products. However, if said gimmick becomes so successful that everybody starts doing it, it stops being a gimmick, and starts being seen as a standard.
Back in the N64, the rumble pak was seen as a gimmick. The competition wasn't doing it, it was something done entire to set the system apart from other systems. However, it caught on, and everybody started adding rumble into their game systems.
A correct statement would be that "gimmick =/= bad" A gimmick is bad if it isn't successful pretty much. Many industry standards now used to be gimmicks.
>>343001196
>At one point the PS4 was going to be 1.5TF with 4GB GDDR5 + 4GB GDDR3 + 38MB EDRAM
What a clusterfuck that would have been.
If it has anything to do with ammibos, I will have lost all respect that I have for nintendo, they will be irredeemable in my eyes.
Wow! What is the was of that now we can all hear for the thread please.
Who cares about NX? Mega Milk did a channel on YT. Damn, I love this kind of shirts she wear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH4WT1otbGo
>>342985689
>Miyamoto next great gimmick.
This hack need to go really. He's too old for and can't keep up
>>343002143
he doesn't work on consoles anymore
>>343001641
Harder to develop for but would have given beter results since the GDDR5 and EDRAM would be the graphics buffers while the DDR3 just took care of the OS. Would have been pushing a lot more than the current PS4. Cerny had all sorts of crazy protos before the final model and even the the 8GB was a huge last ditch gamble after devs suggested it and Sony liked the big numbers afer Durango (The Xbone spec) was leaked to have 8GB DDR3 as well.
It was the worst option since the way the PS4 works created a shit ton of problems (Texture filtering in particular) and Sony made a lot of noise about features like Ayysnc and hUMAthat turned out to be nothing for home consoles.
Though If Nintendo made the same mistake and not consulted devs again. They deserve to live with the results.
>more gimmicks
great.
fucking great. Really. That's what I want, more useless gimmicky shit, and $100 controllers.
I just want big carts like the NES/SNES ones
Handheld carts are fine, but it's not the same of having a big chunk of plastic to display in a beautiful shelf or something
>>343002360
still better than more gimped """console""" PCs
>>342987659
>Having a gimmick doesnt mean it's underpowered
Nintendo relied on gimmick cause they don't believe they can complete in power like MS and Sony. It's their way to differentiate their product which is frankly stupid cause they best way to differentiate their products are their games.
Nintendo excels at making games. That always the case. Not consoles.
>>342985689
I really hope the idea is that they are just going to be doing everything people have been asking for instead of gimmicks and it's like nx is gonna be the new blank and actually push first party games that aren't rehashed or gimmicks
>>342986991
The Cart is compatible with both the console itself, and the handheld. The games are rendered on different specs for both systems.
>We can't tell you anything about the NX because we're doing another stupid gimmick no one wants instead of just making good video games.
>>343002516
the wii u did that and was ignored due to poor marketing and forced tablet controller that could've been optional
>>343002181
>>Miyamoto stated: “In terms of NX, there’s an idea that we’re working on. That’s why we can’t share anything at this point, and I don’t want to comment on the other companies. If it was just a matter of following advancements in technology, things would be coming out a lot quicker.”
>Miyamoto stated: “In terms of NX, there’s an idea that we’re working on
>idea that we’re working on
> we’re
Read in between the lines.
>>343002467
>Nintendo relied on gimmick cause they don't believe they can complete in power like MS and Sony. It's their way to differentiate their product which is frankly stupid cause they best way to differentiate their products are their games.
>Nintendo excels at making games. That always the case. Not consoles.
This entire post is correct. Finally someone who actually knows what and why Nintendo dose what they do.
>>342987201
I wanna play the new starfox. Get a sick arwing amiibo that let's me play the game. Shit now I'm getting exciting for something that won't happen. Fuck you anon
>>342985689
>Nintendo keeping quiet on NX due to a certain “idea”
It's dead Jim.
The fact that the NX was announced over a year ago and has still not been leaked yet is kind of outstanding. I must applaud big N for doing a good job at secrecy here.
>>343002639
And Microsoft/Sony are trying to push VR as a thing.
Believe in Nintendo, anon. There are hope yet.
>>342985689
>copies of games come on cartridges
>lower quality assets for handheld component NX
>downloads higher quality assets to console component for use on NX at home
>lowered assets on handheld version allow for perfect parity between handheld and console
Screen cap this. Capcom and Nintendo were playing around with this crap on games released on 3DS and N3DS
>>342988816
>with a razorblade covered bat
Fruit or vampire?
>>342986991
>80$ for both in one package
>40$ for the cartridge version alone
>60$ for the CD version alone
>>343002897
Maybe cause they got nothing to show yet
>>342987201
>games come as amiibos instead of cartridges
I highly doubt this as the NX is practically confirmed to use amiibos in the current way by the fact that Zelda BotW uses them and Aonuma has stated the NX version is "identical" to the Wii U version, meaning Amiibo functionality would be maintained.
We have no reason in the world to trust that this idea is all that special or even any good beyond gimmick games.
>>343003148
but reviewtechUSA guy hates nintendo
since nintendo won e3 it logically follows that they will definitively blow the fuck out of sony and xbox
when the ultimate weapon, NX, is unleashed, both may well surrender right there on the spot
>>343002932
>yeah well the others aren't doing better
Stop. This is not a strong argument in Nintendo's favor. There can be three retarded, gimmicky consoles. Sometimes no one is a winner.
>>342985689
>there’s an idea that we’re working on
If they're still working on it, this doesn't bode well
The WiiU was finalised just a month before production and dev kits were still being rolled out in September 2012
>>342986991
Why does everyone want this shit its a horrible idea
>>343003131
>Aonuma has stated the NX version is "identical" to the Wii U version
He said no such thing, simply "same game, different visuals"
>>343003240
He doesn't hate them (he just bought a N3DS a week ago), he's just disappointed about the stupid decisions Nintendo keeps making with their home consoles.
>>343003446
this
![nintendo-wii-u-new-super-mario-bros-u-gamepad-gameplay[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MIX6SXn.jpg "nintendo-wii-u-new-super-mario-bros-u-gamepad-gameplay[1].jpg")
>>342985689
Because his last gimmick was such a huge success.
>>342985689
They are shoving in HBM2 ram into the system and can't manufacture the system until November.
>>343002467
Nintendo rely on gimmicks because of their blue/red ocean philosophy rusty iwata enacted.
Why fight over 50 million fans between three platforms when there's potentially 100 million fans that the other platforms don't appeal to? That's why the Wii and DS were so successful.
>>343003446
>>343003537
he prefers PC/Sony by a wide margin
>>342999407
Nintendo is an old dog with the mind of an old geezer.
It's because they bought the design from IBM. Nintendo owns that particular CPU design. This was common practice since the dawn of consoles. It was to ensure IBM couldn't just suddenly discontinue that particular CPU and fuck over Nintendo's business.
That's how the traditional old Japanese businessmen thinks.
Meanwhile AMD offered a newer business model that was lighter and more nimble.
Sony and Microsoft doesn't own the current gen APU designs, they buy them from AMD by the bulk.
In return AMD promise them they have access to their latest building blocks for the microchips, and relatively cheap and fast design/production time.
This is in contrast to the more rigid and traditional business model Nintendo prefers.
So I imagined Nintendo say no to AMD's offer because of that. They prefer what they can own, what's predictable.
While Microsoft and Sony has no problem trusting AMD.
>>342985689
NINTENDO NX ISA DRM PLATFORM LIKE STEAM AND ALL OF NINTENDO'S NEW GAMES ARE BEING DEVELOPED FOR PC
>>343004050
keep dreaming pcuck one day you will be able to play a video game with your $6,500 rig
>>343004217
actually it's $8,600 and im running 3 versions of bloodborne all at the same time you fucking console filth
>>343003847
PC I would agree with, but he threatened to sell his PS4 and Xbone just because the Neo/Scorpio was announced.
>>342989034
>Good reviews by normies
Are we talking about the same Wii Music? Because normie-tier sites like IGN and Gamespot creamed Wii Music because there's zero interactivity, while being overlayed with a soundtrack composed of what's mostly the biggest in public domain hits
>>343004315
I stopped watching his videos when his shit became obvious click-bait, despite his insistence to deny the fact. Also dude seemed to turn into more of a manchild crybaby as time went on. He's kind of like /v/ incarnate.
>>343003240
>but reviewtechUSA guy hates nintendo and is a idiot
Fixed. He still hates that he was wrong about the 3DS going to fail. He is a idiot, and simply refuses to see things from Nintendo's point of view. Instead, he just spouts that they should focus on the hardware, while he downplays anything positive. He even went on a rant about the "weakest console usually wins", not saying it is written in stone, which would be reasonable, but instead saying that it is entirely wrong, and he went about making exceptions for every time it happened. He is the definition of moving goalposts. He started console gaming during the xbox generation. I am dead fucking serious, he thinks he is reliable at knowing and talking about video games, yet he didn't start console gaming until after the N64, during the Gamecube era. Why would anybody take anything he says seriously, when he didn't even play any games from the SNES era, let alone the N64 era? His youtuber name implies its a channel about reviewing technology, yet he constantly butts into gaming news like he knows what is going on. Imagine a youtuber named "plumberguy" taking about installing electric wires in a wall, would you take his advice seriously? He's basically a shockjock. He only opens his month to say things that will get people to watch him out of how angry it makes them due to spouting nonsense. He is the DSP of gaming news.
>>343004634
it's basic flanderization anon. happens to every personality like this.
>nintendo NX
>cartrige
>X for cross platform
>NX can play every single nintendo game up to day
>has a slot for every cartridge invented
>>342989176
But sesus hates fags
>>343004712
*isn't written in stone.
>>343002404
Zelda Outlands?
I postulate they will make some sort of attempt to bridge NX and Wii U hardware
Almost like an expansion of sort think 3DO or N64 DD
>>342985689
This is actually kind of exciting. They think their idea is so good that MS and Sony will instantly want to steal it once it's revealed, so they're keeping it all on the down-low until they're sure the other two don't have time to respond.
>If it was just a matter of following advancements in technology, things would be coming out a lot quicker.
This means "if we were doing VR like the other morons we'd be done already". They're making something entirely new.
If the NX is coming out next year, is it even going to be revealed this year?
>>342986991
Why release a overpriced cartridge when you can just download games digitally these days
>>343002704
"We" means "this company" in business-speak, retard.
![848EVo71rw70wfo1_500[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/teINfg8.png "848EVo71rw70wfo1_500[1].png")
>>342990814
a luck strike that gave them money for half a decade
>>342997747
>tokio mirage session was the first HD games by intelligent systems so atlus had to pick up most of the work
>5 fucking years of development
>>342997318
>PPC 750 architecture
what the fuck? wasn't that launched in, like 1997?
>>343006803
Yes.
And Nintendo bought the design on discount by the time it was being phase out and replaced.
>>342999407
backwards compatibility and because they got attached to that stupid design they felt like buying
>>342985689
more gimmick driven development, awesome.
>>343006928
>And Nintendo bought the design
well desu that was kind of the standard practice back then for console manifacturers, they needed to mass produce shit and hardware could be discontinued
>>343006578
Who cares how long it takes them to go bankrupt financially? What matters is how quickly they will become a nonfa ctor in the video game industry akin to Atari or Sega
>>342986991
>Download only
>Tablet based platform (possibly even android based but running non-stock)
>Small box under tv
>All hardware is in the controller which works on the go
>Streams to the TV when at home, like an iPad can already (much innovation)
it's fucking obvious. Kill off the handheld and the consoles and have a single device that works in both scenarios.
>>342999614
>f2P
>Characters can be added by tapping the correspondent amiibo
>Different amiibo series give different outfits
That alone would make them millions of dollars, even if it is a shitty idea
>>342991026
NES was more so corporate media control. Nintendo used contracts that literally forced 3rd parties to commit to only the NES at the time, which worked to be quite well to be honest. That "mistreatment" of 3rd parties went on all the way to the N64, all during Hiroshi Yamauchi's reign as president. The dude was a brutal business man, and I hope if anything Kimishima picked on on his methods.
>>343006803
You now understand why everyone who knows just a fraction of the subject makes the facepalm every time nintendo recycles that CPU microarchitecture.
>>343007306
>>343006928
Wasn't there a report saying that when they were making the wii U, the people from IBM told them:
>You know, we can give you guys a POWER7 equivalent that is more powerful and energy efficient for the same price
>Nah, we are good with the one we know by now
>>343007089
Yeah, but they could have gone non-jew mode and bought some of the newer stuff IBM had at the time.
Nintendo was Still a big player in the N64 days.
And just because they purchased the design of an old CPU, it doesn't disqualifying them from purchasing a newer design when the next generation of consoles is ahead.
