Polygon posted the first video of the upcoming SS Reboot https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_uJ47oKHY0
>>342977442
lighting looks great but the textures and models are iffy.
I mean come on! Not even a fucking bevel on that ramp!?
But who cares, as long as everything but graphics (and some UI and control improvements) is original, it's gonna be great
>>342977442
looks ok i think.. i wanted to say something more actually but i already forgot
>>342977442
>reboot
Stop using words you don't understand you underage little shit, it's a remake.
Also it's not even the first video released of this.
Kill yourself.
>>342977442
They need to tone it down some.
>>342977834
http://www.vg247.com/2016/06/25/system-shock-remaster-is-now-a-reboot-launches-next-week-on-kickstarter/
You're a rude bitch, BTW.
>>342977442
My only concern is that their trying to make this into SS2. So goodbye kickass MIDI music and distinct color palette of each level.
>>342978114
>they're changing the levels and story
And into the trash it goes. A remake is all I wanted, the fact they're now going to rape it with their "modern, more progressive vision" means it's going to be literal trash.
The devs need to fucking kill themselves.
Also
>Kikescammer
Yep, trash it is.
>>342977442
i like it and i'm glad they have something to show before the kickstarter
>>342978253
>>they're changing the levels and story
welp into the trash it goes.
Bye bye one of the few things I was looking forward to
>>342978253
Oh fuck off
>posting Polygons video and not the actual video released on the developer channel
Fuck off you stupid fucking shill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPLF9Ad9ns
>>342978417
>actually defending raping the perfect 10/10 level design of the original
>actually defending the devs wanting to "streamline and modernize it for modern audiences"
Eat shit and die
>>342978253
Changing levels isn't inherently bad. REmake changed up the level design and added a bunch of curveballs for fans of the original.
>>342977442
It looks pretty good, I don't really like the tone that they're aiming for though.
>>342978542
RE level design wasn't perfect to begin with, and REmake made the level design more contrived and expanded compared to original.
This one is STREAMLINING the level design, as in making the levels smaller and more appealing to modern retards.
Go shill somewhere else you dirty fucking kike.
>>342978253
>>they're changing the levels and story
GOD
FUCKING
DAMNIT
>>342978417
End your life cunt.
>>342978253
Why do devs do this. Why do they think they can just come in and fuck around with perfection without ruining everything? All they had to do was remake something that already exists. It couldn't have beeen easier.
>>342978253
>they're changing the levels and story
wait where does it say that
>>342978903
Classic case of "WE THINK WE CAN DO BETTER AND 1-UP THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS".
That's what almost always happens when you get a new studio to remake something they didn't work on in the past.
I can gurantee you that Sony's Crash Bandicoot remakes will also be dumbed down and altered.
>>342978980
In the article they say they aren't content with just remaking original and would rather make their own vision for the game instead and also on the kickstarter page.
If they aren't sticking to original design and following their own "vision" then it's pretty fucking obvious that it's going to be completely fucking different.
>>342979080
>"WE THINK WE CAN DO BETTER AND 1-UP THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS".
the original developers are working on this you fucking mongoloid
>>342979370
They aren't. The studio behind System Shock Enhanced Edition is making this you dumb fuck.
The original devs (or rather, some of them) are working on System Shock 3. Go eat a bag of dicks you lying shill.
>>342979370
>the original developers are working on this you fucking mongoloid
But thats wrong, the indie guys who made SS:EE are making this remake/reboot thingy
>>342977442
I like how you push buttons on circuits/keypads physically in the world instead of in a UI element. That's neat.
>>342979571
That was in the original game, the original game is also going to be objectively better now that they confirmed this is going to be a streamlined and heavily altered reboot rather than a faithful remake
>>342977442
Too much bloom, DoF and krrrromatic aberration.
It's okay if your graphics aren't super next-gen, you don't need to try and hide them beneath copious amounts of filters.
>>342979453
>ystem Shock Enhanced Edition
how was that?
Does it give it modern controls?
>>342977442
Why care about this when Enhanced is already literally perfect?
>>342977442
>Misses 5 times from 1m distance
Jesus christ I just got aids
>>342979905
System Shock has always had good controls. If you mean does it have mouselook, yes, but there's been a mod for that years before EE, you daft cunt.
>>342979905
They just ripped off the System Shock Portable mod wholesale and them smacked them with a cease and desist to shut them up. It's good because SSP was good, but it's in no way their own work.
>>342979905
Definitely much better than playing on DOS.
You can set higher resolution including widescreen, though widescreen mode stretches the UI while the game itself is rendered in Vert- (as in top and bottom of non-interface area is cropped to make a 16:9 aspect ratio).
However going beyond 1024x576 resolution is buggy, very performance intensive and crashes the game.
The controls are rebindable and definitely more modernized and you can use mouse to look around, however you still need to press a button to switch from mouse look to "point and click" mouse in order to interact with puzzles ands hit.
>modernized
>streamlined
>reboot
Trash.
I bet it won't have original music either.
https://u.pomf.is/bbhtaw.mp3
>>342978463
Maybe he did that because the Polygon vid is 8 minutes of new footage?
>no interaction between the hud and the world
>60° fov view model (battleborn style)
>utterly shite animations that pale compared to the original sprite work
>no mention of diego or implants
>no "I'll be the king of the net" diary entry
>code to door lazily written next to it
>no audiolog screen
>no map screen
>developed with xbone in mind
>2 weapon limit
>no overcharge for energy gun
>no cyberpunk techno music
>literally the same title as the original
I didn't even finish SS1 or SS2, but god dammit. Not like this. Not like this. What a shame. And console kiddies are already demanding a PS4 port. Do these fuckers even understand what makes SS1 unique? Without the weird hud and the cheesy cyberpunk shit SS1 is a generic space survival game with a low budget and terrible animations. And this will replace System Shock, one of the most revolutionary PC games of the 90s.
>>342978463
Your video is from when it was still a faithful remake, the old video.
Polygon's vid is new one from the reboot version, since they scrapped the remake and decided to make a modernized and streamlined reboot instead.
>Look guys, we're remaking this game so you can enjoy it with better graphics!
>Ha ha, got your money, now it's going to be our new progressive story about nuclear lesbian robots because we're much better than looking glass!
Kickstarter and modern developers, not even once
>>342978253
>they're changing the levels and story
I bet you end up having a romantic dialogue option with Shodan as a lesbian couple.
Reactor/Maintenance decks were fucking abysmal and they are in the right for changing them
>>342980676
They're changing everything, for the worse.
Watch the fucking vid, literally everything what >>342980329 listed is based on that vid.
>>342980676
I can't beat the original, because I don't know where to go on level R. All the doors are locked and I've already found 2 vents that don't help me at all. I really wish I had a strategy guide from the 90s.
>>342980803
http://www.ttlg.com/ss1/walkthrough/
>>342980414
It looks like more or less the same build, though.
I wish they'd gone into detail about what they mean by "reboot"
>>342980803
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=1631.0
>>342979080
>Sony's Crash Bandicoot remakes
What's the point unless Sony buys the rights to this series? It's honestly a huge waste of time desu.
>>342980924
It doesn't, the original video didn't have that shitty weapon limit for starters or the door code literally written next to it.
The original also still had the SS1-style UI with audiologs/diary etc as well. The original looked faithful, this looks exactly as they described, a streamlined and modernized. Because modern fucking casuals can't handle a game like System Shock.
For fucks sake, it doesn't even have the point and click mechanics anymore.
>bought the enhanced edition of SS1 on steam a few days ago
Gonna start it up once I've cleared a few backlog games, what am I in for /v/?
>>342981097
They bought the rights from Activision actually in exchange for putting Crash into Skylanders and remaking Crash 1-3 on the notion that Activision gets lion's share of the sales and it was Activision that dictated Crash 1-3 being remade as part of the sales terms.
>>342979176
>also on the kickstarter page.
Which kickstarter page? It's not up yet.
It says nothing about changing levels, or streamlining anything, or their own vision. All it actually says is this:
>"We felt that the amount of passion and resources that we are putting into this game elevated it beyond the expectations that someone would have for a remaster," CEO Stephen Kick said. "This is a full-fledged reboot of a classic game into something new."
You are jumping to conclusions on a bare minimum of information.
>>342981151
An amazing mix between cyberpunk and space horror.
A game that perfectly mixes puzzle game with RPG and action mechanics. There literally is no other game like it. SS2 itself is already considerably streamlined compared to SS1.
>>342979651
>they confirmed this is going to be a streamlined and heavily altered reboot
THEY
DIDN'T
ONE IDIOT FUCKING GREENTEXTS SOME SHIT AND HALF THE FUCKING THREAD IS ALREADY PARROTING IT AS GOSPEL FUCKING TRUTH
I HATE YOU /v/
>>342981335
>bare minimum
THE
FUCKING
VIDEO
IS
UP
YOU
DENSE
FUCK
THE VERY VIDEO
IN
THE
FUCKING
OP
WHICH ALREADY CHANGED A FUCKTON FROM THE ORIGINAL
SEE >>342980329
FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW CAN YOU EVEN NOT NOTICE SOMETHING AS OBVIOUS AS LACK OF THE AMAZING CYBERPUNK MUSIC?
https://u.pomf.is/bbhtaw.mp3
https://u.pomf.is/ktqilm.mp3
>>342981449
This
>>342981343
>SS2 itself is already considerably streamlined compared to SS1.
SS2 is shit. Weapon degradation. Shitty upgrade system. Can't use weapons before you level up skills, etc. System Shock 1 is actually LESS complex. And that's a good thing.
>>342981151
Spooky monologues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOjAv5fmPck
>>342981449
>>342981516
>ONE IDIOT FUCKING GREENTEXTS SOME SHIT
Watch the video in the OP next time, morons.
>>342980329
Most of these are ass-pulled assumptions.Shame we won't get Brosius to make something to replace that borefest of SS1 OST.
Ah yes, the 'autistic ss1 apologist' is sperging out once again, very impressive
>>342977442
>they're changing the levels and story
I was getting excited, my bad.
>>342981546
Level design in SS2 is a lot less complex.
Puzzles (or I'd say relative lack of them) are also heavily dumbed down from SS1.
Weapon degradation and upgrade system were poorly implemented, I agree.
>>342981483
Its a alpha gameplay demo with 2 guns and alpha inventory textures. God damnit
>game is planned for consoles
into the cart it goes
>>342981115
>his looks exactly as they described, a streamlined and modernized
But that's not how they described it.
I think this looks excellent, it's about as good as we can expect for a remake nowadays.
Looking forward to it. Hope they do a graphical update for SS2. They best not change anything else for that one though; it's literally perfect.
>>342981698
DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE FUCKING INVENTORY SCREEN? IT CLEARLY HAS ONLY 2 WEAPON SLOTS YOU GODDAMN FUCKING RETARD
>>342981546
>SS2 is shit
>>342981483
>FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW CAN YOU EVEN NOT NOTICE SOMETHING AS OBVIOUS AS LACK OF THE AMAZING CYBERPUNK MUSIC?
Yeah, that's not really what I thought we were talking about.
>>342977442
>calling it a remaster
>it's actually a remake
When will this meme end?
>>342981793
>I hope the people who are changing everything about SS1 and not just updating the graphics remake SS2 and don't change anything other than graphics
Think before you write
>>342981793
SS2 is a mess compared to 1. 1 is actually perfect, 2 has too many half implemented ideas that weren't fully fleshed out.
>>342981816
Tetris inventory would suggest that you can carry as many guns as you can fit in it but can only have 2 assigned to a quick slot at a time
>>342981914
calm down you fucking psychopath autist
>>342981884
>remake
Not anymore.
Reboot*
>>342981576
The video in the OP is almost the same shit as the footage from the "faithful remake" build posted a few months ago. It's literally the same level and the same enemies and the same models and weapons and everything.
>>342977442
the zombies look shitty as fuck, their noise/groans are stupid as fuck, and so are their animation. and the music that starts when they first show up sucks.
They need to be more like SS2's .
Also, SHODAN's voice needs to be filtered heavier to sound more robotic. If not now, then at least later on. Gradually make it more robotic as she drops the facade.
Seriously tho, tweak the fucking zombie animations. Looks cartoony as fuck.
>>342981816
They have stated it was only a placeholder.
>>342981654
>they're changing the levels and story
Who are you quoting?
>>342981579
All of the things I said can be clearly seen in the video, you dolt. Also they literally confirmed XBONE. It's on their facebook.
>>342981629
I'm not him. I just saw that he was right after I played the game with mouse look.
>Puzzles (or I'd say relative lack of them) are also heavily dumbed down from SS1.
Yeah, I agree. Hacking in System Shock feels like actual hacking. Changing shit that implicitly changes more shit and it's up to you to figure out the hidden semantics of it all. SS2 is just click spam. Fuck, even Bioshock did hacking better than SS2.
But on the other hand System Shock 1 doesn't have a penalty if you die, as long as you have disabled cyborg conversion for the current level.
>>342981825
The core of the game is 10/10. Too bad the upgrade and degradation system makes it almost unplayable. Is there a mod that allows me to use all weapons regardless of level and levels while upgrading them increases the damage/aim, ala Deus Ex?
>>342981978
That still means you can only pick between two weapons at any given time without opening inventory, which was NOT the case in the original.
>>342982053
Wanna know how I know you're a retard that never played System Shock 1?
>>342982160
Placeholder as in the art, not mechanics you dumb fuck.
>>342981579
>borefest of SS1 OST.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
>>342982237
>Wanna know how I know you're a retard that never played System Shock 1?
I don't know, why don't you start by telling me the difference between the two videos that has your panties all in a bunch.
>>342982160
>but its only a beta
I'm getting some Infishit flashbacks here. And back then I was the deluded apologist.
>>342982352
Already listed here >>342980329
Looks great but I can't get over the new voice messages. Something tells me they're going for a different feeling with the remake. At least the original game still exists.
>reboot
MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING GAME
still gonna observe this to see how it turns out
expectations are low
>tfw the cyberpunk music is gone
Do not want
https://u.pomf.is/dnlvvw.mp3
>>342980329
>60° fov view model (battleborn style)
Why do people get so mad at field of view? It's a video game not real life. I understand how much it would suck if you had shit peripheral vision in real life but it's a video game you damn niggers. I never even knew the term fov until I saw how much pcmustards loved bitching about this. As well as tons of other things mustard ricers bitch about like fps.
>>342982440
The video, dumb fuck. The one posted here >>342978463 that everyone was super excited about because it was so super fucking faithful before they overhauled it and ruined it.
That's right, they didn't. It's still the same. The level design is still the same. The story is still the same. People are jumping to conclusions.
>not original developers
>WE CAN DO BETTER
>reboot
>C&D the freeware SS Portable so they could steal it and release as EE for money
Die
>>342980490
>now it's going to be our new progressive story about nuclear lesbian robots
>>342981967
>1 is actually perfect
You fucking people, I bet in a year you'll all start saying that SS1 was always shit and Ultima Underworld was the only good one.
>>342982174
And if it's on the xbone, what? It's not like there haven't been hundreds of PC games ported to consoles. For example Deus Ex.
>>342982286
Not really. Some times I see people saying SS1 OST is better than the SS2 one, and every time I realize they only say that is because the slow combat of SS1 makes actually engaging/decent-paced music feel odd, while the SS2 OST allows fast-paced music which masks the slow combat and makes it feel faster (and better).
>>342982632
Shill harder, go and C&D more projects so you can steal them and release for money
>>342982579
End yourself. What are you doing in a SS thread, you fucking underage console shitter?
>>342982632
>People are jumping to conclusions.
The 8 minute video in the OP looks awful. There's no assumptions to be made, because what we're being shown is already a disaster.
>remaking an old but popular game that is still being sold
>the same publisher that is making the remake is still profiting from the original game
>using a cheap as shit engine despite its widely known performance issues
Why does this even need Kickstarter money? It seems like a lazy hack job.
>>342977442
>>342978463
I can't lie. That UI looks 10/10, comfy as fuck.
>>342982802
>And if it's on the xbone, what? It's not like there haven't been hundreds of PC games ported to consoles. For example Deus Ex.
Yeah, and wanna know what fucking happened to Deus Ex when it was ported to PS2?
The levels got butcherd to be 1/4 their original size, some dialogue was censored (by removing entire fucking lines), the enemy AI and recoil got completely dumbed down among many other changes.
But do tell me what an amazing and faithful experience the PS2 port of Deus Ex is.
Kill yourself.
>>342982837
>There's no assumptions to be made
That doesn't stop /v/, apparently.
People are literally already repeating things that someone else made up and pretended the devs said. Within the span of a single thread. This is how misinformation spreads, /v/. This happens all the time. You people need to learn to keep a level head.
>>342982632
The only reason why the original "faithful remake" build looked "faithful" was because they showed off jack shit.
They showed off barely anything in the first trailer.
While the new one with more gameplay is the same build just with more stuff.
Same level design. Same visuals.
It's all the fucking same you twats.
You just think it's different because they didn't show off the things you didn't want to see in the first trailer.
>>342982802
>It's not like there haven't been hundreds of PC games ported to consoles. For example Deus Ex.
Ported after the fact, not developed as a multiplatform title. You're deluded if you think they are going to make different versions for each platform. Also funny that you bring up Deus Ex.Invisible War.
>and every time I realize they only say that is because the slow combat of SS1 makes actually engaging/decent-paced music feel odd
You can see into peoples minds? Different tastes, you triple nigger.
>>342983085
>People are literally already repeating things that someone else made up and pretended the devs said.
That's just the shitposters. All other concerns are valid and backed up by the video.
>CAN ONLY HOLD 2 GUNS AT ONCE
Glad to see their're taking inspiration from Bioshock Infinite
>>342982924
Play SS1, it's even comfier.
>>342980329
>literally the same title as the original
This pains me to no fucking end, why do people think this is ever a good idea? Unless the original was obscure or forgettable, all this does is cause confusion
>>342982552
>MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING GAME
But there's the new Prey™ already.
>>342982960
It was a random example.
Still doesn't deny the fact that most games these days (which do not require a powerhouse) play 99% the same apart from the control scheme.
>>342977442
>polygon
fuck off shill
>>342983383
>It was a random example.
>moving goalposts
>most games these days
>THESE DAYS
Most games these days are also dumbed down to the point a blind toddler can fucking play them.
>>342983109
>You can see into peoples minds? Different tastes, you triple nigger.
Yeah, because most people will enjoy listening to breakcore in a turnbased game and downtempo in arena shooters.
>>342982802
SS1 does everything it sets out to do well, and it does it with very little chaff. The game seriously has no flaws. SS2 was too ambitious. It took out old mechanics, dumbed down the level design, and everything it introduced was half assed and poorly thought out. It's still a good game, but it's just couldn't stick a clean landing. It's jank as fuck and not fully realized. Going from SS1 to SS2 is like going from King's Field to the Souls games.
>>342983205
>All other concerns are valid and backed up by the video.
Not really. Half of it is liable to change (HUD, animations, diary entries, etc.) and things like overcharge could perhaps just not have been shown. And the two weapon limit may be a console thing. Like someone said, you can probably keep multiple weapons in your inventory. Maybe you can have hotkeys for all of them in the PC version. We just don't know yet.
>>342977442
not gonna lie, looks pretty damn bad tbqh
>>342983287
They said in the youtube comments that "There are two usable weapons in the demo, the boxes/limit are just temporary :)"
More excited for the new Underworld game. I just hope they redo the retarded looking skeletons.
>>342983498
>Most games these days are also dumbed down to the point a blind toddler can fucking play them.
Give me an example. And not the "oh boy, all games can be played by any mentally person, unlike back in the day".
>moving goalposts
I just read somewhere that the Deus Ex port was fairly decent, if it's not then I take the example back.
>>342977625
Remember, it has been only a few months since it was announced. Texture and model work may dramatically improve by time of final release and the publisher is probably not Jewish.
Those hammer swing animations look weird
>>342983847
>fairly decent
>doesn't even have shadows
>>342977442
doesn't look completely terrible but it isn't gonna replace the original
they are really taking it in a slower horror type direction with the ambient noise soundtrack
i have a feeling they won't even bother with goofy stuff like the jet powered rollerskates
never liked the addition of mouselook since it feels like you don't interact with things directly and just turns into a run and gun shooter game
>>342983383
>Still doesn't deny the fact that most games these days (which do not require a powerhouse) play 99% the same apart from the control scheme.
And that's why this is an abomination. The original is delightfully unique, BECAUSE it's an obscure PC game from the 90s. That's 90% of the charm. If you played it you would know that.
Kill yourself.
>>342983589
And the two weapon limit may be a console thing.
So you're already admitting that it's designed for consoles first? Great, don't even have to argue, you already agree. :^)For real though, I was really exited about this and the video just kicked me in the balls. First they announce it's not going to be a faithful remake and now this shit. I wanted to like this, I really did, but alas, it's fucked.
>>342977442
where's the character portrait for the transmission?
>>342983847
The Deus Ex port is fucking abysmal.
And then you have Invisible War, a game that was from get-go developed as multiplatform for consoles and PC, and it's fucking abysmal too. Guess what fucking reboot is also being made as multiplat for consoles.
>And not the "oh boy, all games can be played by any mentally person, unlike back in the day".
Bioshit Infinite
>>342979080
>Sony's Crash Bandicoot remakes
No not remakes, that guy on stage said "remastered from the ground up for Playstation 4". Always gotta watch what Sony PR says or does very carefully, more so than any other game company.
>>342984175
Where is half of the dialog? Where is the text? Where is the hackers diary? Gone, that's where they are. But nooooo, I'm jumping to conclusions because I'm a bitter hipster faggot apparently.
>>342977442
> dont need a keycode to open the med suite
wow they like ignored the level design
good for them
>>342984175
Gone because lol streamlined modernized new vision reboot
>>342977625
>>342983850
It's Unity you can't expect very good graphics with that engine.
>>342984378
>streamlined modernized new vision reboot
Stop fucking saying these words
>>342984303
Read my entire post instead of just the first half.
Why dont they just make a new one instead?
> first message from SHODAN isnt a personal transmission and isnt even the whole dialog from the original
wow guys good job ruining it
this is my last post for the thread
play the original and get the mouselook mod if you can
>>342984363
451 is written in blood on the wall right next to the keypad
in the original you need to read an email to find the code
>>342984336
You are jumping to conclusions. You're not a hipster faggot you're just a faggot.
>>342984448
But that's exactly what it fucking is, anyone who played the original game and saw the video can tell that. But you haven't so your opinion is irrelevant.
>>342984530
Because they're talentless hacks who can only ride on the success of other people. Need I remind you that it's the same people who sent a C&D order to System Shock Portable developer and then proceeded to steal it and release it as their own under the name "SS Enhanced Edition"? They have 0 moral backbone.
>>342984530
Otherside Entertainment is working on SS3
>>342984530
They are. SS3 in the works.
>>342978197
SS2 had color palette on each level. There is also blue on this one.
>>342984646
Then where is half the dialog? Where is the music? The code is now next to the door. Therefore the diary is not there.
>>342984464
I did and I was referring to the last half only. I am correcting you on what Sony said about Crash on the PS4 because if you think they actually meant something more than pic related then you're in for disappointment.
>>342984646
>CONTENT CLEARLY FUCKING SHOWN MISSING
>the first EASY door "puzzle" already dumbed down to toddler level
>NUH UH YOU'RE JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS
The fact they had to fucking WRITE the code to the keypad right next to it on the wall just because they have no faith in the modern gamer to read the datapad in the closet is proof enough of how shit and dumbed down it is.
>>342984760
>>342984762
RIP in pieces System Shock
>>342984048
>BECAUSE it's an obscure PC game from the 90s. That's 90% of the charm. If you played it you would know that.
Yeah, the fucking charm of having an outdated control scheme the moment it released.
But let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say well, how the fuck were they supposed to know that DOOM will release before them, and say that the control scheme got outdated the moment Quake released, which still makes it 20 years of being a clunky as shit scheme.
If you want the 90s charm (which to you means the idiotic controls) just play the original version of the game.
And this is where the argument ends, I'm not changing my mind , your not changing yours.
By the way, telling someone to kill themselves at the end of the post doesn't make you appear more smarter/in the right, you fucking cock-throbbing cunt.
>>342984668
LOL I think you need to calm down brother
>>342980614
>implying that's bad
Oh, they're rebooting it instead of remaking it? Great choice on their part. I was not minimally interested in playing a remake of System Shock 1, I love that game to death, but remakes are just a waste of the developer's and my time, in my opinion.
But if it's actually more of a re-imagining, then I'm definitely game for it.
>>342984854
Original Crash in high resoluion wouldn't fly, the graphics are way too shit for modern plebs. It's not the kind of game you could just bump up the resolution and have it look acceptable.
You can screencap my post, they're going to redo it and fuck it up hard.
>>342984872
There is nothing idiotic about the controls. Mouse look mod fixes everything.
>>342984429
https://youtu.be/44M7JsKqwow
>>342984863
SS3 is being made by different developer, who has some of the original team members from Looking Glass.
This shit is is being made by the same chucklefucks that stole SS Portable.
>>342984872
>hurr durr I never played SS1 with mouse look
>>342977442
>real time inventory taking up full screen
is this a console port?
Question for playing the original game. Should I play it with the windowed hud or in full screen? The larger hud seems a little easier to use but then you don't nearly get as much viewing space
Whats the point of remaking it when the old one just got a remastered version?
>>342985131
It's being designed for XBone so yes.
>>342985159
fullscreen
youll will get used to the ui but it will also take time for that to happen
jsut try to set up the controls in an intuitive manner
>>342985127
>>342984668
Ouch, now I feel bad for buying SS on Steam. Still, it works better than SSP ever did, so there is that.
>>342985202
Read the thread, it's no longer a remake, it's a butchery.
>>342985159
Full screen and just set up control bindings for everything.
>>342985268
I pirated it, it is the most convenient and best way to play SS1 but it doesn't change the fact that the devs of this are literal stealing scum.
>>342984530
ss3 is confirmed as well but wont start work for ages
>>342984668
you are so fucking clueless
portable is the original game bundled with dosbox and some mods
there was another project to get ss1 working on windows called SHLINK
when night dive aquired the rights they got in touch with that guy and other modders and worked with them to make it an official release
>>342985483
Any source on this? I imagined they had at least asked the SSP guys for permission.
>>342985202
>>342985318
>Read the thread
No, actually, watch the video, read the original articles, and take everything you read in this thread with a large helping of salt.
>>342984978
>great choice
they announced it as a reboot, not a remake. and now they turn around.
if they want to make different content, call it system shock: subtitles. Not system shock remaster.
it doesnt have the full team of lgs behind it, it has 90% to be worse, modern convention notwithstanding.
>>342984429
you clearly have no clue what you're talking about
>>342985583
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145663
Nope, they just flat out nuked the project.
>>342985502
Try harder you fucking shill, at least now I know 100% that the developers of this shitheap are in this very thread.
>>342985223
Is making different hud for different platform that difficult? some games even let you customise hud, and not just "turn off tooltips" or "bigger fonts"
The video doesn't look like a reboot at all, it just looks like a remake.
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to be area for area and word for word of the script.
I'm disappointed if that's the case.
>>342985910
Even Witcher 3 on PC still has heavily consolized HUD and to say otherwise is objectively wrong.
Just compare Witcher 1 UI to 2 and 3.
Or compare Risen 1 UI to Risen 2 and 3 UI.
It's all about console "parity" these days to ensure that consoles aren't far behind PC and developing multiple branches increases development costs and since publishers are too greedy, you get identical interfaces instead, which is what happened with Witcher 2 and 3.
>>342985986
>word for word
Datapads are gone
Shodan message is completely changed
Half the dialogue and emails are gone
The very first fucking door "puzzle" dumbed down to WAIT A MINUTE THAT CARD level.
Yeah, word for word my ass.
I wish it would had that part from the beginning where you pick where you serve for the next year, building up your stats that way.
And coop maybe? And no shitty weapon degradation?
>>342985824
no shit they shut it down, for the longest time ss1 was considered abandonware and they just freely distrubuted it with the dosbox/mods package as "system shock portable" now that someone owns it they can't do that anymore
you can still get all those mods and play it in dosbox or a legacy version of shlink you stupid faggot
>>342977442
Does someone recommend playing this over the Enhanced edition? Asking because I never finished the original, was too scary for me back then.
>>342986286
Hello there shill, are you upset that you weren't getting maximum shekels from digging up a corpse of an old game just to rape it?
Never played it, does the original have a color filter too?
>it's a unity game
into the trash it goes, the original looks way better so there's no point of this even existing
>>342986480
no, but i'm sure getting sick of arguing with children who don't understand how the world works
>>342982579
>it's okay to have basic shit working worse than real life, despite already having been achieved 30 years ago
>in a fantasy escapism hobby that you do for fun
KYS
>>342986634
I'm sorry that we don't approve of digging up corpses.
>>342986470
This - not finished
Enhanced - is already there for you to play
>>342986613
Of course not. Original is like a cyberpunk Doom if I were to compare its visuals to anything. Very early primitive 3D level geometry with textured everything and enemies being sprites.
>>342986470
You should play EE because this shit already is shown to remove half the dialogue and script and dumb down already easy things from the original.
>>342986849
cyberspace was polygons tho
>>342986618
Don't knock it just because it's Unity.
Deserts of Kharak is in Unity and is pretty damn good and close to the material.
So, wait. There's gonna be a System Shock 1 that is a reboot of the series and a System Shock 3?
>>342984995
You seem to be misunderstanding what I'm telling you. Sony isn't going to do remakes of Crash. The guy on stage specifically said "The original Crash 1, Crash 2, and Crash Warped fully remastered from the ground up for Playstation 4." You can even go back and watch very carefully what he says here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7yKx8iVti0Bonus: The Crash shadow that they use while he's walking to the center is the Skylander Crash, which then spins into the Crash 2/3 model
He didn't say remake whatsoever, remakes are different entirely. A remake of a game would be the PS2 version of Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories where it's based on the GBA original but the gameplay and graphics have changed significantly from it. Another remake is be Metroid Zero Mission where level structure is changed, a brand new leg of the game is added, etc.
This shit is going to be a remastered collection like the ones they did for Sly Cooper and Jak and Daxter. As in it'll be the original games but with some small added features that don't drastically alter the gameplay, something like widescreen resolution and analog support for the first game, and not brand new games based on the originals.
I don't know why I'm even bothering with you, you're not shitposting about this either you're just this retarded and will probably just see this one sentence and either miss the point entirely (again) or ignore everything in this post and continue being stupid.
>>342982802
>And if it's on the xbone, what? It's not like there haven't been hundreds of PC games ported to consoles. For example Deus Ex.
Titles developed as multiplatforms are restricted by the lowest common denominator because you cannot make 3 different games. If it was supposed to be a PC exclusive, this means the game will inevitably suffer one way or another due to the many limitations of consoles (controller choice, performance, update elasticity, creativity/rating limitations based on getting your license on to a single proprietary hardware whose creator may not agree with - see Nintendo for the golden example)
>>342986101
>Even Witcher 3
>Even
CDPR is all about console pandering since TW2.
>>342987058
Yes.
SS3 is being made by Otherside Entertainment, a studio formed with some of the original Looking Glass (the original SS devs) employees.
SS1 reboot is being made by indie chucklefucks called Night Dive who are known to hunt licenses for old abandonware games and make them paid titles instead, they are the same people who made shit like Turok Ex and killed that fan progress on Blood source port.
>>342985624
They're changing the name to take away "Remastered"
>>342987265
I know, but Witcher 3 was announced as having separate interfaces for consoles and PC, a statement on which they later backpeddalled. Same with the visual downgrade from 2014 build despite the 2014 build visuals being very easily doable on PC.
Those animations are fucking awful.
>>342977442
Looks fine but I'm not going to bother since I have no problem playing the original. It sucks that they ditched the original music. At least they have a demo ready for KS.
>>342987265
TW2 was a PC exclusive though. I don't know why people expect every PC game to have an RTS style interface, and if it doesn't it's "console pandering".
>>342986202
Sorry, I haven't played System Shock 1 in well over a decade.
Still, that makes no sense. First off, the idea of remaking the game is stupid. If I want to play the first game, I will just play the first game, I don't fucking want to play a remake. Stop wasting fucking development resources on making the exact same games again.
Secondly, you're going for a remake and you're taking away dialogue? Just fucking design new levels.
>>342980329
>>342982579
You'd think developers would just learn how to auto-set FoV to the screen resolution in SP games.
I can understand locking or soft-capping FoV for MP games because tryhard faggots love cranking that shit up as high as they can.
>>342982147
That's what SHODAN sounded like in SS1, and what zombies looked and acted like.
>>342981579
Brosius never made any of the music in either SS game.
>>342977442
That Polygon aiming at 6:35
>>342980329
>And this will replace System Shock
I wasn't aware the devs are going door to door deleting people's copies of SS.
>>342977625
I don't even care, this looks playable. Even if the textures and models were SS2 tier I'd be happy.
I played SS1 ages ago and I can't go back to it ever, it has aged like sour milk, while SS2 has aged really well in comparison.
>>342987541
TW2 PC release was very clearly unfinished and rushed for the quick buck because the company was about to go under. The game was very clearly being made for X360 already at that point in time, for fucks sake the director said Demon's Souls was his main inspiration for Witcher 2 and that he wanted to make the game more accessible for console audiences. Enhanced Edition is in reality the finished version of the game while the original was very clearly a paid public beta.
>>342987995
Lolno it hasn't. SS1 with mouse look mod shits all over SS2.
>>342987995
>it has aged like sour milk
t. Shitposter that never played SS1 with mouselook
>>342987541
>a company cannot develop something with the opportunity for a future port
They knew they would likely port TW2 on consoles. It was apparent from the UI.
Name a single advantage to the TW2 UI on a PC, when it required mods to make it properly usable. Go.
>All these 19 year old cunts in this thread that probably never even played Systemshock, let alone beat it, whining and bitching nonstop because developers have the audacity to try and improve on archaic or obtuse level design
Yeah, because it's not like REmake is a thousand times better than the original even though it changed plenty from the original release- OH WAIT it IS way better, and you are all a bunch of fucking retards. Glad we got that cleared up.
Not even worth a (You).
>>342988298
I'm 21, and yes I've played it. I'm stuck on level R, but yes, I played a great deal of it. Now tell me, what exactly is so good about this low budget indie survival horror game with a System Shock skin?
>>342982174
>Fuck, even Bioshock did hacking better than SS2.
Every time I think /v/ has hit a new intellectual low I get proven wrong.
Next time I'm going to read posts defending military shooters.
>>342988298
REmake didn't remove content
REmake didn't dumb shit down
REmake wasn't made by a no-name indie developer that had nothing to do with the original game
Kill yourself
>>342988516
lol is this bait or real
>>342988567
>Bioshock: Actual puzzle
>SS2: Randomly clicking on squares until the RNG lets you trough
>>342988567
What's wrong with military shooters faggot!? Delta Force was fun
Goddamn there's even more hysterical screaming and salt in this thread than /v/s usual fare
God knows trusting publishers and developers is like trusting the ATF at this point, but can we at least wait to see some wolves before we start screaming bout them? All I noticed, aside from the pretty good lighting and particle effects, is how shitty the demo player was and how poorly it controlled on console sticks
>>342988605
Nice argument. I've played 6 hours of the game, I liked it a great deal. The remake throws everything I liked about it out the window. Why doesn't that go into your brain, you thick nob end?
>>342988516
>only 6 hours
And he thinks his opinion matters for shit, how cute.
>>342988593
simply by virtue of different rooms and puzzles it did remove the original versions of those rooms and puzzles and thus removed content. There's a good number of puzzles that are significantly easier- like three of them just require basic backtracking and not any actual critical thinking anymore.
If you're biggest complaint is you don't like the name on the back of the box, you're a complete faggot. No one will miss you when you commit suicide you worthless fuckface.
>>342988840
ur a big shill
>>342988883
>The remake throws everything I liked about it out the window.
Oh, did you play the remake? If so, please tell us more about it. We're very eager to hear about it.
>>342988840
>but can we at least wait to see some wolves before we start screaming bout them?
People already pointed out the cut content
People already pointed out the missing dialogue
People already pointed out how even the very first puzzle got dumbed down hard
People already pointed out how there's an arbitrary 2 weapon limit now
People already pointed out how the music got changed from pumping cyberpunk to generic horror ambient noise
Shill harder.
>>342988516
>This is the average /v/ user who spews his shitty reactionary opinions about games he doesn't understand and ruins threads and starts console war bullshit and was probably a GayGoober member
this place has gone to shit
Will this come out for PS4?
>>342989048
No, but I saw a video of it and I'm pretty damn disappointed.
>>342988919
>>342989123
I know I'm pretty shit, but 6 hours is more than enough to get the essence of any game. That essence is lost in the remake. Why does my age matter and why do you assume I'm a contrarian for having an opinion different from you? If people who liked the game in the 90's are exited about the remake, great, I don't care, but at least from my perspective there is nothing special about SS1 once you remove all of its quirks.
>>342989108
Jesus Christ dude how is asking what the problem is shilling? What exactly had been removed? I've skimmed through the thread, all I see is a lot of bitching and not a lot of listing
There's no dialogue because it's an alpha demo
The first puzzle is a meme that's been in every 'shock game
Some anons post says that the 2 weapon limit is for demo purposes only
Whats been cut? How can we even tell if anything has been cut until we see pre release footage?
>>342989532
>The first puzzle is a meme that's been in every 'shock game
Confirmed for not playing the game. Without looking it up, tell me how to get the code in the original.
>>342981215
Now they just need to buy Spyro and Sony finally has their two best franchises back.
>>342989532
>skimmed
How about you read the thread?
How about you play the original game?
How about you stop being an illiterate millennial with ADHD?
>The first puzzle is a meme that's been in every 'shock game
Kill yourself, get cancer and die, literally. Because you are literally objectively fucking wrong.
Also
>BBBBUT ITS JUST AN ALPHA
If it's not a full-fledged reboot, don't bother.
I want to play System Shock 1, I'll go play System Shock 1.
The person who played that triggered my dormant autism.
>>342989123
I would also like to mention that >>342989514 (Me) and >>342989687 are not even the same person. We just agree on some points and vent our frustration by shitposting you into oblivion.
>>342989625
Data pad
>>342989924
Right, your both anal blasted /v/ fatties. Message received.
You system shock bros are foaming at the mouth over the reboot/remake shit a little too much.
But I'm not really sure what to make of this. On one hand the color scheme and art style matches the original really well especially with the memorable sloped wall/ramp design they have in the first area. But it seems a bit... bare bones in terms of design. System Shock 2 pretty much was a remake of SS1 if anything, but it tried really hard to push the envelope. Not recreate what was there before.
Looking Glass Studios was always about creating really heavy simulation based gameplay. At the time the graphics and control schemes were super advanced for their time. In fact in an interview their mission was to assist in the VR forefront by at least doing good software. If looking glass was still around I would imagine they wouldn't be doing "AA" games like this.
>>342989942
That's right. You have to read your own diary to solve the first puzzle, now it's right next to the door reducing that entry to pointless flavor text that 90% of people are going to skip. That's objectively worse. Also sets a precedent for things to come.
>>342990054
Where the hell do you think we are?
>>342990140
>and art style
I too remember the original having bloom so blinding that it makes the Syndicate reboot look tame in comparison.
I too remember the original having chromatic aberration so overdone it looks like an anaglyph 3D game.
I too remember the original having tunnel vision tier depth of field.
Oh wait, I don't, because unlike you I actually fucking played the original game.
>>342985094
hory shet
>>342990192
That seems like an incredible minor thing to flip the fuck out over.
No developer is ever going to make "X, exactly the same but with better graphics and more audio channels". For one they're repackaging the game for the shitty co sole market. So just don't think of it as a re ake of SS1, this k of it as some dongs game that was inspired by SS1
>>342990358
The "Unity looks bad" meme stems from Unity 4 and earlier versions which were pretty meh and from the fact that most of the games on Unity are made by relatively talentless indies that reused the stock assets and shaders instead of making their own. Basically from the incompetence of people using Unity, rather than Unity itself.
And Unity 5 is quite literally capable of basically the exact same shit as Unreal Engine 4 is, it's just that Unity 5 documentation is much worse than UE4 hence why UE4 is more popular.
>>342977442
where's the cyberpunk feel
fuck this dead space shit
>>342990475
why do you sp ak like th s?
>>342990731
Gone forever, enjoy your reboot
>>342990475
>That seems like an incredible minor thing to flip the fuck out over.
It's not the puzzle itself, but of what it implies. If they change something as fundamental as the first puzzle, who knows what they are going to do to the rest. They added hand-holding to the very first puzzle, what is stopping them from applying that to the whole game. It's called foresight.
>>342990731
SS2 fags have finally managed to retroactively ruin SS1. I bet the people working on the remake don't like SS1 for what it is and only because it gave birth to SS2, which is why they try to turn it into SS2.
>>342987381
They supposedly did a great job on the Turok remaster though. You people should be glad there are companies out there willing to do something with dead gaming IP's. Otherwise they would become dust bin of history.
>>342991132
>SS2 fags have finally managed to retroactively ruin SS1. I bet the people working on the remake don't like SS1 for what it is and only because it gave birth to SS2, which is why they try to turn it into SS2.
Now that you mention it, you seem to be absolutely right.
>>342991132
>I bet the people working on the remake don't like SS1 for what it is and only because it gave birth to SS2, which is why they try to turn it into SS2
Yes, it totally makes sense that they would remake SS1 and not SS2 because they like SS2 more.
>>342991320
>great job
It's a fucking straight port of the N64 version with virtually no improvements beyond FOV and higher resolution.
They didn't even remove the fucking low draw distance hidden by obnoxious fog.
>>342991320
>Otherwise they would become dust bin of history.
Yeah, because those games clearly are not longer available to just download online huh? Eat a bag of dicks you fucking shill.
I am glad they are remaking this classic. I haven't ever played this game because the controls sounded way too intimidating and the graphics are dated. I'm guessing it was supposedly a masterpiece of it's time.
I heard they have something similar to Bioshock's plasmids in the game so I am looking forward to using some fire and lightning on the splicer zombie guys.
>>342991975
Die
>>342991469
You can mod it out bitch. Also there is an option for it in the game natively. Fucking idiot.
>>342986286
>>342986634
>copyright apologist
kys
>>342991975
Low effort.
What makes Shodan so great?
>>342992196
Criminal scum pls leave
>>342991320
SS1 should have stayed in the dust bin if that meant avoiding a consolized remake so that PS4 kiddies can feel like they've played an influential game.
>>342991390
They are bringing it in line with SS2 because they probably think it tired to be SS2 but failed, while in reality its something else entirely. It's not scary, it's not about hardcore survival or resource management or atmosphere; It's about cheesy cyberpunk shit and point and click puzzles. There is nothing cyberpunk about SS2, it's just straight science fiction with some bio shit thrown in there for good measure.
>>342991975
I can't tell if this is serious or well-crafted bait for (You)s
>>342992616
If that was the case they would have added stats and classes, which as far as I know they haven't (thankfully).
>All we have is one gameplay video
>One autist instantly rants that it isn't SS1 with a graphics update
>Anyone who says let's wait and see is a shill
>Something about lesbians
Why do I post in this shithole anymore
>>342980286
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