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never played Vampire The Masquerade, is it worth it? cheap as shit on Steam

also VTMB thread I guess
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Yeah also theres no map for some dumb reason... got lost as soon as i left the tutorial
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>>342970861
Check the bus stops.
Also you better have installed the unofficial patch.
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>>342970686
one of the best games i ever played, immersive as fuck, interesting world and lore, interesting mechanics and unique atmosphere.

get it, you wont regret.
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>>342970686
Hell yes!

Here's a neat starting guide pic for it.
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ISOLATED
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>>342970686
Might as well pirate it at this point. Your purchase means nothing for this title, or the people that developed it.
Don't attempt to play it without the unofficial patch.

Keep in mind that the game's rather old at this point, and it shows.

That said, keep an open mind and it can be one of the most fun/interesting games you can play.
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How combat heavy is this and whats the easy mode build for combat?
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>>342971558
Read the image and don't worry about it it's not that hard. Don't be an idiot and you're good.
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>>342971183
>dont buy the game
why?
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>>342970686
Friendly reminder then when you buy Bloodlines digitally all your money is going to the scummy fucks who went out of their way to fuck the game up as much as possible and killed the devs.
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>>342971776
Because you shouldn't help Activision, the ones who fucked Troika.

>>342971558
It gets pretty combat heavy at the final stages, but usually having Celerity makes combat piss easy so going for either Brujah or Toreador might be a good choice.
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>>342972339
Gangrel can get Celerity later in the game.
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did anyone here even like Arcanum
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>>342972480
Huh? As far as I'm aware, you can only have Fortitude Animalism and Protean
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>>342972480
At the very end of the game and you can't even invest five dots.

>>342972572
It was great, one of the best, if not the best, RPGs ever made.
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>>342970686
Pirate it, the devs get $0.00 from it, it all goes to Activision and they don't even have the fucking IP rights so they aren't doing shit with it. It's the one case where pirating is the moral option, Activision caused the greatest RPG company ever to disband.
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>>342972597
At least in the plus patch they can. If you put three into every discipline and talk to Beckett in a certain way when you meet him in the tower after you get the sarcophagus he pats you on the back for mastering all your disciplines and gives you Celerity. If you're another clan he'll teach you one Gangrel discipline but all of them including Celerity are capped at three dots.
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Don't buy it, the studio went out of business so all the money goes to the publisher that fucked them in the first place.
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don't open it
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>>342970686
Yes. Use unofficial patch though.
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thanks for the warning guys I will just pirate a GOG version

poor Troika it's beyond ridiculous what they've done to it
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>>342972927
I think some of the people from Troika started a new company, I remember seeing a FRIGGIN CHICKEN sign in some other game.
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>>342972927
The worst part was seeing how Vavle behaved during the whole process fucking Troika even harder than Activision ever could with the whole source engine thing.
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>>342973243
Oh yeah they refused to give the a full version of Source before HL2 came out right?
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>>342973440
Bloodlines started development before Source was finished so all they got was the shitty beta build Valve had at the time. In interviews Valve really isn't that responsible for the fuckups, their only demand was that Bloodlines didn't come out before HL2 since they wanted that to be the flagship Source game. Activision took this as "we can't shit it out before hl2 and make a quick buck so we'll shit it out the day after".
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>>342971183
>all those typos
Well, at least he tried.
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>>342971183

Should i install the Clan Quest and Final Night mods on my first playthrough?
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>>342973762
Just play with the basic or plus patch. Final Nights is a complete overhaul that changes the clans and shit, Clan Quest should probably be saved for a later playthrough.
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>>342970861
How can you get lost in a linear game?
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>>342973976
I got lost in Downtown a few times in early playthroughs because both roads look really similar.
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>>342973921
damn, good looking
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I don't know much about this game but I do enjoy SFM porn of this bitch.
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>>342973719
Yeah, all of those pictures portraying Bobby Kotick as literally Satan are coming back now.
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>>342970686
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>>342973921
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>>342974384
Have people actually started making porn of it? Last time I checked there were about less than ten things and only two or three were any good.
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>>342970686
>vampire the memerade bloodmemes

Its a shame Redemption gets no love, I know its old as shit but it still holds up.
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Harley Quinn has nice tits.
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>>342974801
>not memepire the memerade: bloodmemes
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>>342973921
Don't do that.
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>>342974801
They're very different games and none of your choices matter in Redemption until the very end. Playing them back to back is a fun ride though since Redemption ends around the time Bloodlines starts.
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>>342974608
It's always nice when expectations are met.
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Great, now I have to download and play it again. Thanks OP
Not that I mind
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So, did you open it /v/?
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Downloaded, installed, installed patch and when I try to launch it it just loads and then nothing happens.
Ideas?
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>>342975853
I was explicitly told not to so I opened the fuck out of it
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>>342975954
Google launch options and see if any of them make it work.
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>>342975853
Nope, but at least opening it was a sensible ending. Did anyone opt for the Kuei-Jin one? I never understood why it was an option. Sabbat ending would have made much more sense imo
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>>342976082
Tried them all (that seem legit), but it still wont work. A loading icon just shows up for a second then nothing happens. Windows 10 problem perhaps?
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>>342976527
What patch did you use and where did you get it from?
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>>342970686
do it, its an excellent game
remember not to open it, anon. im serious.
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so jack slaughter people on the ship and plant the bomb ?
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>>342976812
Yep.
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>>342976674
Tried both a built-in one from a torrent, and then the one shown in the picture previously posted in this thread.
I sat with this about 1.5h last night trying to get it going without success before giving up.
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>>342977002
Tried running it in compatibility mode?
>windows 10 ever
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>>342970686
Get, it's amazing, also get the restoration mod.

and above all else, DON'T OPEN IT
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>>342976868
are those people innocent or they involved ?
im not native english speker may have miss somthing.
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>>342977161
As far as I know they were innocent, just a bunch of fucks who happened to be the ones transporting it. Jack doesn't care.
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Silly anons, why wouldn't OP open it? You sound Malkavian to me.
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>>342974121
I took the wrong turn a number of times but like, you go the wrong way just turn back around.

>>342974703
Oh man, I hadn't even realized how much SFM porn a similar game would have if launched today. Obsidian please
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>>342974608
Fuck that dinosaur. Shit me up
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>le ebin DON'T OPEN xDDDD meme
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>>342977079
Yeah, still no luck. I know, but I got raped by Windows when I left the computer.
Thanks for looking out though, mayne.
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>they actually believe in the masquerade

lmao camarilla fucking shits
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>>342977902
Patches-scrolls is the only official host for the patch so you might try redownloading it. Could just be a bad download altogether, I've never heard of a patched game not running at all. The -dxlevel launch options might work if you don't mind it looking like shit.
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>>342970686

Yes.

And don't listen to people who tell you to pirate. They don't get how gaming works. Your little 4 dollars is a vote to the Publisher that this game sells. The slow steady sales might be why Vampire is getting a sequel.

Also it needs a fan patch to fix all the bugs and to play right.
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>>342978549
>The slow steady sales might be why Vampire is getting a sequel.
Or it might be Paradox buying the game due to it's cult following and previous pnp status.
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>>342978549
Activision has nothing to do with the new Vampire game, nothing of value is lost when someone pirates Bloodlines. The new Vampire game might not even be OWoD.
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Fun game, but the second half drags a bit with a lot of repetitive combat
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>>342978925
The combat is only grating because most people assumed they could keep playing social characters and never put anything in combat skills.
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>>342978549
The publisher doesn't own the IP anymore.
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>>342971217
SHITTING
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>>342978549
Wrong, Activision owns the game but doesn't have the rights to Vampire anymore and Troika has been dead for years.

It was Obsidian that hinted on a game being in production after Paradox bought White Wolf, and new books are set to release this year.
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>>342977928
>masquerade
>matter of belief

considering humanity almost wrecked vampire asses back in medieval times, vampires have a good reason to stay hidden. sabbat is just retarded and survives because they leave their messes to camarilla who has no choice but to fix them.
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>>342979069
Obsidian was already negotiating for a WoD game before Paradox bought White Wolf, the only reason they got cock blocked is because Paradox was trying to push their WoD MMO which never happened.
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I just want a vampire gf to drain me every night before bed ;_;
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Re-watching the first season of True Blood is making me thinking replaying this again.
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>>342978837
There is no oWoD, cWoD or nWoD. Now it's only WoD and CofD, with WoD being the primary focus of Paradox.
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>>342978837
>>342979052
>>342979069

It's the wrong mindset because Devs don't fund games, Publishers do. Thus sales always matter. Not buying games for whatever reason dooms certain games to poor sales. And you know shit like GTAV and others are going to sell well. So you might as well make your consumer vote count. Plus it's like 5 dollars. How cheap can you get?

And continued sales and interest might be why it's getting a sequel, even if the original Publisher ins't the one doing it.
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Fuck, I think I must have play this game a dozen time.
Love it.
Malkavian specially, I guess Ventrue next, cause welp, no Lasombra (obviously). Tremere are fine, but the clan sucks and they are glass canons.
>>342979032
I rarely used guns and stuff, vampiric powers + mele is all you may need
>>342975853
Fuck no.
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what if we're all malkavian and our mental disease is autism forcing us to believe that we are not malkavian
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>>342978549
>Your little 4 dollars is a vote to the Publisher that this game sells.

Voting with your wallet that way just means we're going o have a nice soulless reboot that totally misses the point. And tries to cash in on the brand.

Just ask Tomb Raider, Mirror's edge or even just old Bioware fans that supported Dragon Age Origins as an attempt to bring back the crpg thinks about "voting with their wallet"
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>>342979601
This is a very specific case where the publisher went out of their way to fuck the developers over to the point they went under then used the broken, unfinished product they managed to make to get a quick buck.
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>>342979601
Paradox has already licensed Bloodlines for future use. Activision has nothing to do with it from now on.
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>>342980102
If they only licensed it Activision will still get money from it.
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>>342979158
>sabbat is just retarded and survives because they leave their messes to camarilla who has no choice but to fix them.

Not at all. The game actually did a really poor job at portraying the Sabbat. They don't follow the Masquerade's set of rules but they do stay hidden, sort of like the Anarchs. Pic relatad, one of the revenant families from the Tzmisce clanbook.

>>342979207
Paradox had nothing to do with the MMO though, that was CCP. They bought White Wolf after the MMO was canceled.

Can't say if negotiations were already underway before Paradox bought them but I've never seen news of this before.

>>342980102
No, Paradox owns White Wolf, and thus Vampire and the World of Darkness. Activision still owns Bloodlines, meaning a new game probably won't be a direct sequel and won't have the game's original characters in them. Unless they start negotiating with Activision to use them, but I find it unlikely.
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I've given Activism exactly 3.33. It's all I've ever given them. I don't regret it.
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>>342980378
Does Activision really own the characters? I know some characters from the greater WoD fluff show up.
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>>342980554
Some of them belong to White Wolf and were used in the game, like Jack and Beckett. Most others are original, so I assume they don't have the rights to them. Though a couple like LaCroix and I believe Nines were mentioned in the books later, so it might be some sort of grey area. I dunno.
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>>342980378
Paradox recently trademarked Bloodlines directly.
http://www.pcinvasion.com/vampire-bloodlines-trademarked-paradox-owned-white-wolf
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>>342980378
>The game actually did a really poor job at portraying the Sabbat.

Pretty much. Sabbat players don't exactly fill the roles of shovelhead riff-raff.
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who was looking for a porn?
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>>342980378
>Paradox had nothing to do with the MMO though

Don't quote me on that one, but my understanding was that the deal with CCP had granted Paradox access to all the WoD resources, including code from the scrapped MMO project.
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>>342981386

Or, conversely, it did a pretty good job at representing the Sabbat as seen through the spectrum of Camarilla interpretation.
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>>342981469
To be fair, I wouldn't put it past Paradox to try and have their own slice of the MMO cake. Especially now when they're publicly traded.

>literally the only business so far who asked Steamspy to stop reporting their sales numbers because new shareholders might get upset
Fucking hell.
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Making the Anarchs all goody good while everyone else was grey or evil is bullshit.
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>>342981405
not me
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>>342981386
>>342981580
problem is you pretty much need to read guide to sabbat to get a good idea of what they really are. corebook itself, especially back in the day, was heavily pro-camarilla. anniversary edition is supposedly better in providing a more general overview of things.
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>>342981469
>but my understanding was that the deal with CCP had granted Paradox access to all the WoD resources, including code from the scrapped MMO project

Thats right, but they don't really seem interested into putting some mmo out without having a new game to help it.
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>>342981469
That's true but they only acquired the assets when White Wolf was bought, after the project was canceled and dead.

>>342981220
Oh I didn't know that. Though I'm not sure what it means either, like do they own the game, the name, it's assets, the IP?

>>342981580
Yeah but the fun in Vampire is that everyone is pretty much grey, there's no good guys.
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>>342981728
How would have you portrayed them?
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>>342981640

Can't say I have much trust or confidence in Paradox, but wait and see, it's not as if CCP hadn't already made me impervious to hope with the years long wait that ended up with nothing.
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>>342981728

I fully expected the Anarchs to pull some sketchy shit and the Camarilla to have something redeeming.

Also, isn't it implied that Anarcs are aligned with the Far Left and Communism?
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>>342981728
They're just as much manipulative self serving fucks as everyone else, they just act like they're always in the right.
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>>342981993
>Also, isn't it implied that Anarcs are aligned with the Far Left and Communism?
Some, but not all of them, nor the majority. I imagine that a more pragmatic commie would go for the sabbat instead of the anarchs due to their origins and stated beliefs.
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>>342981963
Have at least one that does some self serving and deceptive. Like actually deceptive, not just assumed by the internet.
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>>342981993
>Anarchs to pull some sketchy shit

I suppose you could argue that Jack, The Nosferatu and Isaac and his gargoyle are "sketchy shit"
VV and Skelter do have you running around killing people too.
Nines is a bitch who drops the friendly facade the very second you say something he doesn't like. Damsel is default bitch.
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>>342981728
Anarchs are about the same, except less good at the job and more about playing up the bro angle when they want you on their side. Sensible Anarch would be someone like Isaac but it's clear he really just cares about his Hollywood business and personal investments. What Anarchs stand for in principle should be perfectly self-evident, but their "fuck up the establishment and replace it with nothing" mindset always fucks them in the ass. It's why they canonically lose Anarch Free State they fought for.
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>>342982327

Jack is running his own scheme without anyone else involved. He's a side character that ends up being behind it all.

> Isaac and his gargoyle

I don't remember him doing anything bad. Also isn't it implied he's gay and in love with that actor?
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>>342982697
>Also isn't it implied he's gay and in love with that actor?
Can you supply any facts to support this claim?
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>>342982697
Love doesn't mean jack to kindred. Ash was his little Humanity pet and he got buttblasted when Ash kept doing stupid self destructive borderline suicidal shit so he embraced him.
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>>342982875
His childe Ash.

>>342982697
>I don't remember him doing anything bad
The Gargoyle left the Tremere only to be subjected to another cunt. Thats pretty fucking bad if you ask me.
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>>342981993
I was pretty surprised that the Anarchs didn't try something either, especially considering the Nos at the beach said Mercutio and Beckett were the only ones you could really trust. Nines turns out to be pretty much the broest bro in the entire game unless you go out of your way to go against him.
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>>342982407
Then the game should have said that instead of making them look like underdog fight for everyone's rights jerks.
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>>342983185

Yeah Nines was TOO nice. I suspected he was up to something.
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>Isaac
>Abrams
>involved in Hollywood film industry
>runs a jewelry store
>has a golem
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>>342982972
Ash is the biggest cunt ever.
>boo hoo i'm rich and famous and i have an influential vampire pal who can keep me alive forever and get me any work i want
>oh no all the self destructive shit i did to spite him is killing me better let it happen
>fucking selfish prick saving me and letting me live forever life is so horrible
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>>342983193
Did you miss they also manipulate you just like everyone else?
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>>342983520

>Ash Rivers

Obvious reference to River Phoenix and other self-destructive stars.
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>>342983520
Some people just cant handle being vampires for a variety of reasons. Most vampires don't make it past first two weeks, according to the books. They usually end their unlives by suicide.
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>>342983653
Ash is even called Phoenix in-game by the Malk pc, iirc
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>>342983520
The real cunt is Isaac for thinking embracing a young depressive socially overactive movie star was a good idea
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>no one posted the thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1DjBe3LOM

Goddammit, people.
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>>342983692
Shit man I'd be pleased just being a Nosferatu.
>sleep all day post on schrecknet all night
>most bro clan
>get all kinds of juicy secrets and computer shit
>obfuscate lets you turn invisible or copy other people's looks
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>>342983867
funny thing is that Isaac did it because he didn't want a promising actor to die, but now ash can't even act.
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>>342984016
>become a nossie
>only significant difference is that now you have friends

welp
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>Replay after years
>Malkhavian fuck yeah, makes the game interesting to replay. Gonna hunt all the quests
>About 2/3 in, go to the Hospital
>Realise I can't do her quest because I already progressed the main story
>Kills all motivation to play any further
>Never played again
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>>342984212
heather is overrated
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Required viewing for everyone in this thread.
>vampires fucking around on a board walk in santa monica
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>>342970686
No worth it, the steam version is bugged and I'm not sure if it works with unnofical patch that fixes most bugs.
Doesn't hurt to try though, the game itself is worth.
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>>342984430
>No worth it, the steam version is bugged and I'm not sure if it works with unnofical patch that fixes most bugs.

It works with the unofficial patch. It's what I use.

4.99 for the convenience of it being in your steam library is worth it.
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>>342984425
Lost Boys, Near Dark and 30 Days of Night are all interesting Sabbat movies in their own ways.
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>>342984016
All night LAN-parties and all the rats you can drink, what's not to like?
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>tfw no qt Toreador to embrace me
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>>342970686
Don't buy the steam version, buy or pirate the GoG version.
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>>342984836
>wanting to be part of the most manipulative and soulless clan
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>>342985104
>most manipulative and soulless
>a bad thing

do you even Stirner
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>>342975168
>what I played: VtM: redemption
>what I expected: VtM
>what I got: Diablo
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>>342984836
Literally the worst clan to belong, though. Even horrible physical deformities or madness are better than being all about passion and unavoidably losing all the drive for it so you have to pretend to give a damn or be cast out by your little clique of harpies. Sensible Toreador are far too rare.
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>>342985104
>Be embraced by toreador
>Enter a fucking clique-like clan where everyone bullies you and calls you a poseur like in high school
No thanks.

Gangrel, Nosferatu, or in the worst of cases, Ventrue.
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>>342985507
>Gangrel

fuck off furry
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>>342984016
>>342984685
Goddamn being Nos actually sounds like the ideal existence
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>>342985601
>Not wanting to be the coolest guys who one day just said fuck it and left the camarilla to become independent.
>Not wanting to have protean and always have a safe place to sleep during the day and be able to become mist.
No anon, you fuck off.
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>>342985915
It does until you learn Nossies are being hunted by some horrible monsters created by their ante because he thinks if he kills all of them he'll stop being ugly. It's why they have such a massive network, it's all to keep watch out for those fucks.
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>>342985475
Objectively shittiest clan is Giovanni
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>>342986285
Objectively shittiest clan is Samedi.
Nossies are ugly but Samedi are actual rotting corpses who have to steal skin from people they kill.
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>>342986285
that's not how you spell Brujah

fucking rabble
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Shit I'm gonna replay it. Is there any graphical mods or some mods that improve the game without changing it ?
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>>342986481
I know someone made an ENB for it if you're into that kind of thing but that won't help the 2004 textures.
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>>342986481
See
>>342973921
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>>342970861
>theres no map
After all these threads, it must be the first time I see this. Impressive.
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>>342985234
Toreador are manipulative and soulless in the worst way possible. They aren't master planners like Ventrue or Tzimisce, they're just dicks and artfags who only think about the short term. See Isaac embracing Ash.
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>Become Toreador
>Supposed to be snappy dressing, nice guy artists
>focus on celerity and guns
>become Max Payne
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>>342984836
Toreador: Zoe Quinn, the clan
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>>342987120
it's not like toreador were ever a clan of rulers
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What's the greatest vampire novel ever?
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>>342987120
although Toreadors are the most liable to lose humanity points for criminal and immoral behavior.
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>>342988023
World of Darkness? Clan Novel Saga is good.
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Ventrue is truly the best clan, everything else is a gimmick. It's a shame that the lead Ventrue in Bloodlines is a piece of shit, and the best Camilla ending is for the Tremere guy (I forgot his name).
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>>342986285
Unless you're sadist. Then you're gold.
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>>342988124
emphasizing how easy it is for them to fall
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>>342988023
Twilight :^)
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>>342985345
It's a shame that it came out during the time when the modding community was heavily into FPS games. The multiplayer part of Redemption allowed for, pretty much, (re)creating pen and paper scenarios in a video game, with the game master and all that. There were even attempts to make other WoD modules playable (Mage, Wraith, etc.).

Too bad there were only 4-5 open-world maps and a hub for trading, plus 2 ready-made scenarios.
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>>342988665
the humanity gain is faster as well. I guess it's because they're basically narcissists: if they get flattered, their ego swells; if they get slighted, their ego is crushed and they get defensive
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>>342987926
>>342989014
basically 'artfags' in general.
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>>342988974
As a side-note: would any of you be interested in a role-playing session in VtM: Redemption? It's available on torrent sites and gog.com.
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>>342988860
don't shit post, I'm seriously in the mood for some good vampire fantasy
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is Maximillian Strauss seriously the only Tremere in Bloodlines?
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>>342989476
One of the bosses in the Sabbat lair is called a Tremere Fire Mage or something like that in the game files.
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>>342988974
Redemption's problem was lack of proper modding tools. You had to go around externally with NOD editor and shit. Especially when NWN1 came out couple of years later with a simple to use editor that got everyone interested.
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>>342989228
Does the online even work any more or do you have to use some fucky third party program?
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>>342973762

I highly doubt they will run together... both are massive overhaul mods incorporating other mods. Play vanilla with wesp patch then upgrade to clan quest for another playthrough
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>>342989683
Any VPN will work.
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>>342975853
Yes.
Yes, I did.
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>>342973762
Neither, just UP. Also keep in mind that NOTHING plays nice with other things when it comes to Bloodlines mods. You can't even install the latest UP if you plan to have any other big mods.
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>>342989224
Hitler would have been a toreador
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>brujah
cancerous, tendency to chimp out
>gangrel
furry fucking shits
>giovanni
sick fucks
>malkavian
memelords
>toreador
faggots par excellence
>tremere
edgelords
>tzimisce
slavshit edgelords
>ventrue
uppity shits

>nosferatu
bro-tier
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>>342990086
>>malkavian
>memelords

Fucking fishmalks. Get out my clan, reee, etc.
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>>342988023
Dracula
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>>342990086
Found the smelly sewer rat.
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>>342988023
Dracula is okay, but it being an epistolary novel (diary entries, letters) detracts from the experience imho, unless you're into that. Le Fanu's "Carmilla" is GOAT, lesbo vampires from hell, you know the drill.
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>>342972572
I love the fuck out of it.
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>>342990086
>not being ventrue with high seduction and living the high life
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Top tier: Malkavian, Tremere

High tier: Gangrel

Meh tier: Brujah, Toreador, Nosferatu

Shit tier: Ventrue
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Caine was right
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>>342990086
does Brujah chimp out worse than Gangrel?
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>>342991232
you don't see gangrels walking around the block embracing lowlifes because dude anarchy lmao
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>>342991232
I thought Brujah have more of a chance to chimp out, while Gangrel had worse effects/consequences if they chimp out.
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Gangrel are troglodyte hermits; they only chimp out if you invade their territory.
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>>342991136
>No quest line to pull the stick out of Damsel's ass.

>>342991360
The idea of a Gangrel at a furry convention looking for someone to sire is hilarious.
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>>342991496
I'm curious and want to know more.
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What's the relationship between Gangrel and Werewolves? Does Bloodlines have any werewolves?
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how do nosferatu embrace people

they are autistic as fuck
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>>342991830
They either embrace NEETs and other outcasts because fuck normies. Or they embrace really good looking or vain people because fuck normies.
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>>342991136
alright well now I have to play it again, great.
Damn it boner.
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>>342991830
Most of the Nosferatu in VtMB seem to love their status and accepted the embrace willingly
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>>342991686
Brujah's weakness is hard to describe because I feel like it is so tied to the gameplay.
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>>342991963
they go after the beautiful celebs before the Toreador can get em
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>>342992116
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>you will never be a nosferatu normie hunter turning shallow slags into uggos
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>>342992228
Worst clan.
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>>342992082
what about that one movie star who's now an ugly had caked in makeup
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>>342991149
Cain is a fag
-God
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>>342973762
Mods won't work together, installing both Final Nights and Clan Quest Mod at the same time will break your game. Also, don't bother with mods on your first play through, just use the unofficial patch by west, if you want restored cut content you can use the plus version of that patch.
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>>342992507
They somehow managed to make the art worse, even if 3rd edition was really shitty
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>>342992082
>implying Gary isn't deep down bitter about being a Nossie
He's probably in the same boat as Imalia. There's a reason he hates Toreadors
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>>342993197
I think they got a bunch of people to do the art. I kinda like whoever drew the Salubri.
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>>342993570
Yeah sounds about right. The other pic I posted is from tzimisce clanbook and is a good example though, 3rd Ed is really hit and miss. Look at this thing
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>>342993824
That's a lot of chin
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>>342994184
Yes. But there's some good stuff.
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>>342990086
I would only want to become a nossie if I could fuck some qt smelly neet nossie pussy.
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>>342991796
Werewolves in Bloodlines: None than you can play as.

As for the relationship between gangrels and the furries...
It's complicated. And by complicated I mean that different writers/editions had different takes on the thing.

According to one edition Gangrels have a pact with werewolves, which sounds weird as fuck since kine are considered "diabolical" by the furries.

One other take could be that gangrels are -with the tremere, for different reasons- the vampires with better odds in a battle against the furries. Protean gives them claws which are as effective while Fortitude give them a fighting chance, or at least a chance to survive.

Gangrels also have peculiar siring rites which make only the most diehard neonates survive to find a Sire and go on with their unlives, so they tend to be more physically apt than most vampires and considerably difficult to kill.

So gangrels have better odds of survival against a furry attack. Another possibility would be Animalism helping them avoid werewolves.
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>you will never be able to play as Tzimisce or wod mages
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>>342993197
Is she tentacle fucking him? wtf
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>>342995880
I believe that varies more on location than anything. I was reading the New Orleans by Night book and it mentioned a territorial dispute between Kindred and Fera, which was setteled on a agreement and they lived side by side for a while. Also Sabbat Gangrel in cahoots with Black Spiral Dancers.
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>>342988023
The one Mircea Eliade wrote, but for VtM I would imagine that Anne Rice is your best bet.
>tfw no vampire loli to pamper
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>>342976343
I kind of liked the keui jinn since they are actually trying to seek redemption since they are souls that escaped from hell, and obviously dont want to go back. Theu seem less petty and dickish than the vampires.
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>>342997379
>The one Mircea Eliade wrote
Which one is that?
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>>342977161
Jack use to be a pirate maybe even black beard. He doesnt give a fuck.
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>>342975117
Holy shit, how do you make it look like that?
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>>342997831
Miss Cristina.
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>>342984016
Dont forget the vampire children constantly hunting you, or the fact that Hell and bible god is canon so your doomed to hell and being tortured until your soil is shredded into energy to be eaten by the yama kings.
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>>342976868
I always thought it was the cabdriver
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>>342998191
mods probably
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It's a vaporware, probably the most overrated "hipster" game ever.
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>>342998191
Plus patch and forcing some extras through the GPU control panel, or at least that was how he explained last time someone asked.
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>>342998191
Unofficial patch, forced HBAO+ and downsampling.
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>>342998903
Yeah, but which ones? I remember trying to find some a while ago and all I got was shit
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Ready for that #vampirelivesmatter storyline?
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>>342999125
>>342999145
Thank you kind anons. Bless you.
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>>342973921
How do modders ALWAYS lack any sort of aesthetic sense?
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This game has the most fucked up leveling system out of any RPG.

You can basically max out a stat that will make the game a breeze with any character from the very start. You can have fucking SEVEN persuasion points with Ventrue before the tutorial even starts.
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>>342999510
>modders

Any ape can make a Sweetfx/Reshade preset.
There are also some decent ones which just very slightly increase contrast with a touch of sharpness.
But the exaggerated ones are the most popular for some reason.
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>>342975853
I let LaCroix open it on the neutral end
So fucking satisfying
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>>342999698
It's following the PnP. They literally just copied the PnP sheet and made it so to work in a real time game.
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>>342973921
How do I install this shit and can I turn it off / uninstall it afterwards?
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>>342972789
I know this is in the plus patch, but the way you described it, it really sounds like a "that kid" story.
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>>342970686
yes, absolutely game ahead of its time, unfortunately Activision stick an dick into Troika ass so game is almost unfinished, but there is official and unofficial patch, with it you can play it whole without problem.
this game still has
>most comfiest flat in gaming history(NY)
>most scary haunted house in gaming history
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>>342970686
Check if GOG has it, if not pirate it(or pirate gog version).
With GOG at least you give 30% to people who will give you nice game.exe drmfree totally mod enabled (you can keep it, spread it , do what you want) and fixed to most of their abilities.
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is it an okidea to dual spec weapon skills or an absolute waste?
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>>343001902
Somewhat OK during early game, late game is guns all the way.
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>>343002585
I want to indulge my inner fedora lord and dual spec melee and guns with a clan with celerity.
hell, maybe I'll just cheat a bit.
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>>343003079
Yes but are you sure you posted in right thread
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>>342988445
Agreed.
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>>343003254
Go for it then. It's pretty fun and the game even have Katanas. Going for Brujah, right?
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do you think tremere embrace bodybuilders out of spite?
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>>343003269
Nothing to see there. I posted nothing.

Sorry.
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>>343003520
I was thinking Toreador to be honest.
My first run of the game was Brujah and ended up missing out on a lot of dialogue, so I wanted something with bit more dialogue bent.

Obviously, I don't intend on a full combat build or anything.
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>>343003254
>>343003520
Or he could go Toreador to be better with guns lategame.
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>>343003668
dumb susanposter
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>>343003620
They usually go for scholars but maybe a few special bodybuilders who show the discipline required for their shitty pyramid bullshit might be embraced.

I don't believe many tremere would go against the rules of their clan to embrace out of spite. Their clan is fucking bonkers.
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I am already looking forward to comfy vampire threads in autumn.

Last time I replayed, I went in as Tremere bloodgunner. Probably the most OP build possible. Guns at 10, Blood Shield or what it's called and you just fuck up everything instantly.
I also once tried going for a celerity Ventrue, but it just didn't click.
I find it sad that Animalism isn't viable; I wanted to make a Count Orlock, but the game won't let me. Also, couldn't find a mod that gives me a 19th century longcoat for dat dere style. Fuck the gimp suits.
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>>343004150
I would assume the PC character is an exception.


Always gotta wonder how the player was embraced by a nossie. Turned on by corpses, perhaps?
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>>343004590
Nah, apparently that one had the ability to look like a regular human. I wish nossies could have that for real in the game.
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