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What the fuck is wrong with the hitboxes of these faggots? Every fight with them ends with me hitting them for a couple of minutes, and them taking damage after 1/100 of the hits, until I give up and let them kill me.Gothic thread
Oh, and they are on sale right now. Would be a shame not to buy them.
The combat might be difficult at first if you're a pleb, but it's pretty intuitive.
>>342960227
get some fire bolt scrolls man. Damn this game was awesome, gotta replay it
WHICH oops which gothic game is best to start with, and which is best overall?
i fucking adore morrowind and think i might like these games
p-please no bully
>>342960227
>I don't understand how the damage mitigation in this game works
You can't fight strong enemies with weak weapon, it simply doesn't get through unless it's crit.
It's not modern RPG where you're taken by a hand, given lessons and shielded from strong enemies. It's fucking fantasy australia with no borders. Now go do some quests, get money and xp, join a camp of your choice.
>>342962010
>WHICH oops which
>p-please
stop this shit.
start with the first game
>>342962853
calm down, Toilet Cleanowski
I'm completely aware that the game is harder than normal RPGs. I have literally no problems with other enemies, and the manual never mentioned that strong enemies only took damage from critical hits. you're sure it's not due to the shitty hitboxes? :^)
>>342961661
Pirate only.
Devs and publisher parted long ago, because they pushed a early release of Gothic 3, resulting in an incomplete game
Now the publisher won't even bother to do compatibility patches for the steam versions
>>342963693
The ones responsible for Risen are the same ones as the devs behind Gothic 1/2/3, right?
>>342963437
Hitboxes and blade movement consideration is inexistent in this game :^)
>manual never mentioned that strong enemies only took damage from critical hits
Kinda misunderstood me, crits are your only way to damage strong enemies at this point of the game (unless you start using magic). After you get good weapon your damage can go through armor with normal hit.
>>342962010
jesus you're such a fag
>pulling one to that guard so it could kill him and then you could take his weapon
Every time. RIP templar buddy.
>>342964516
Ah, thanks.
I actually got a pretty decent sword in the orc cemetary, but I guess I'm still too early in the game.
>>342962010
just play the first.it is my favorite, even if it is the clunkiest one. the story and atmosphere are unparalleled, and if you manage to get though it you will enjoy the hell out of 2. The third one is fine, however...
>>342962010
Depends on how much you value atmosphere and setting
Gothic 2 is true masterpiece of the series, but its basically a choke standard fantasy. Gothic 1 is way more original and charming, it did the whole "criminal gets a second chance" shit way better before Todd fucked it up with TES 3/4/5.
But you can start with either, if you love one you're guaranteed to love another. Its probably a common knowledge, but avoid Gothic 3 at all costs
>>342963693
Truth
I can't even start a new game with the 1st Gothic on steam
>>342962853
>it simply doesn't get through unless it's crit
This reminds me. I just spent about two hours getting repeatedly buttfucked by field raiders again and again in Gothic 2, and wandered into a side cave where there was an Orc Warrior. Now I didn't expect shit, but to my surprise not only I managed to kill it, but every single one of my hits registered.
At level 3, with 20 strength and a Wolf knife.
So this brings up the question, did they drop the high mechanical resistance thing they had in Gothic 1 that guaranteed that you can't actually damage them unless you are strong enough (except for maybe crits), or did they just nerf Orc Warriors to oblivion? I remember I was level 9 in Gothic when I killed my first Orc in a fair one on one melee fight, but I wasn't fighting Warriors until much later.
>>342963437
>and the manual never mentioned that strong enemies only took damage from critical hits
Because that's not what is happening. Look at your stats, you have several kind of resistances. Well, enemies have them too. Your regular hits simply couldn't get through the resistance, but your crits, because they were high enough, did. That simply means that you are not that far away from damaging them normally, otherwise not even your crits would do shit to them.
>>342967465
Pretty sure orcs were made stronger in Gothic 2, certainly in NOTR. You lucked out and proc'd several crits, if you're so sure go to the Valley Pass and try to fuck with warlords
>>342964232
Yes, though in recent years all they create is the epitome of mediocrity.
None of the games are particularly bad, but not a single one leaves a very good impression or excels at anything but the aspect of being consistently mediocre.
>>342960227
These giant dick snakes spooked the hell out, fucking Stoner Sect living just few feet away from them
>>342967465
In G2 you will always do at least 5 damage.
>>342967783
Yeah, nah, no thanks. I'm not in any rush to get myself killed. Well, you know, more than what is necessary. Those field raiders are a real blessing.
With my current stats those faggots take up to 15 hits to kill, so they are good practice. I jumped off a cliff to get my health low enough that they one-shot me, so I had to achieve those 15 hits without getting hit myself. Combat in this game requires a lot more paying attention than in Gothic, so I figured it's best to get a good grasp of the basics before I start just tanking damage, mindlessly chugging potions, and destroying every trash mob with one or two hits. Realizing that I really have no idea what the fuck am I doing when facing a boss would be unfortunate.
But I'm not interested in facing anything way above my current level right now.
>>342968347
Sounds about right. Tossed a fireball at the thing and compared the damage to my melee hits, and I came up with similar numbers. I just wasn't aware that there was some sort of guaranteed minimum.
Now that I think about it, it makes sense to allow mage/archer builds to do at least some damage with a backup melee weapon.
>>342968202
Elex will be good for sure. ;_;
>>342968202
>>342971174
Wasn't the first Risen better than Gothic 3 (even the bugfixed one)?
And I found out about ELEX just now; it sounds fun, but does it seem mediocre so far?
>>342960227
You have to get closer. They are bugged
>>342960227
There's nothing wrong with the hitboxes. Get the system pack.
>hitboxes
they are dodging your attacks dude.
Who /OldCamp/ here?
>>342974716
plebbitors and queers
>>342974716
Joined Old Camp for Diego but I wanted Sect Camp for the easy going life
>>342971174
They said something similar about arcania and risen 2/3.
I want to believe, since they are one of the few games I can bear to play in the original language, but fucking up is not impossible for them.
![GOTHIC2009-08-0618-38-59-72[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5lpOJDT.jpg "GOTHIC2009-08-0618-38-59-72[1].jpg")
>>342974743
ah yes, felt good to be a queer.
What level should I be for chapter 2 in G2?
>>342976293
kill everything you can, whatever level you get from that you should have.
>>342974901
Almost the same, joined Old Camp because Diego was bro of the decade. But if not for that I would be New Camp for life.
>>342976293
Doesn't matter, going into chapter 2 does not restrict you from doing ch1 quests, but since the monsters will respawn with each chapter you generally want to clear as much as possible. At least kill all the wolves so you can sell the skins
>>342976705
New Camp is Edgy Kid: The Faction
>Dude fuck working in the mines, we wanna smoke weed erryday
>You know whats a great idea? Blow up a shitload of ore for no reason!
>>342975780
>keep expecting female npcs would eventually show up
>that girl from the intro will be important, right?
>they locked her away and you are forbidden from interacting with her, that must mean she is important to the story
>nope
>dicks everywhere
>the only females are there to look good but keep silent
And everything went better than expected.
>>342960227
>until I give up
There's your problem.
>>342971174
The most german outlets say it's a PB game for sure, with an amazing handbuilt world and "good" combat. From what i've seen it looks like they fixed up Risen 3's combat with traditional gothic combo's and a more Dark Souls like approach to different moves for different weapons (Björn Pankratz himself said that they were inspired by DS)
It still looks janky, but my guess is that it won't be as fucked as R2's combat
>>342976994
But the new Camp had the best armor. That pelt looks comfy as all hell
>>342976994
At least they actually tried to do something instead of rotting within the barrier for the rest of their lives. And it wasn't that terrible a plan to assume that an insanely strong dose of magic might crack that shit.
And you know, maybe if Xardas actually gave enough of a fuck to tell them that "listen guys, it's not going to work, just saying" instead of chilling in his tower doing fuck all, then they wouldn't have wasted decades on it.
>>342976994
you're mixing up 2 camps together dipshit and new camp was the only one trying to get shit done
>yfw pic related happened
It's not about where they advertised it. It's about them advertising it in such a fucking way.
How the mighty have fallen.
>>342977773
They're German. We Krauts just don't get marketing, especially not something like Online/Viral marketing. Give us maybe 10 years and we will be there where you are today.
>>342977773
I'm not sure how to interpret what I'm seeing since I'm not familiar with that site, but
>70+ hours of gameplay
>advertise it as by far the biggest game they've ever done
Something does not compute.
What's a good faction in G1 for a first timer ?
Also, melee, archery or magic ?
>>342977773
>what kinda exploration you want senpai
>just fuck it good senpai, like in wow
>jetpack then
>>342978174
new camp is best camp
melee focused with archery as a secondary thing
>>342978174
Depends on what you want to do. If melee or archer, it literally doesn't matter. Just pick the one you like most.
If mage, Old Camp is the only right choice. Even if it sadly isn't canon.
Melee is the best thing about Gothic, but feel free to experiment with a mixed build.
>>342978376
Both new and old camps allow for all magic circles, sect is fucked in that regard. I feel like devs were actually trolling the players with that shit, since Sect looks like "that camp you pick for magicks"
>>342977773
Germans can't into marketing.
It's pretty widespread in our tech sector, instead of marketing the shit out of a product, investments are made to ensure high production standards and quality.
The idea is that someone will buy it, notice the quality and word of mouth will send more customers our way.
>>342978584
Not only that, they flat out tell you to join Sect Camp if you want magic. It's pretty funny.
However the story is cooler if you pick Old Camp instead of New for the wholeyour life is a sign, and that sign is the unification of elementsaspect. It's just such a nice touch.
That being said, Adanos >>>>>> Innos.
anyone know how can i run this game in 1080p ?
and game have problem with squeeze picture too.
>>342979976
Check your ini? Or use the DX11 mod
1080p worked perfectly here, except for the movies
>>342980071
gothic 1 have dx11 mod too ?
>>342977773
Have they said anything about system requirements? They won't make this a W10 exclusive, will they?
>>342962010
Don't listen to what the others say, Gothic 3 is fine, make sure to get the community patch though.
>mfw buying Gothic 3 a few years ago
>excited as fuck
>shit optimization, crashes, that shit combat, the horrible faction system
I think I died a little inside, I wish I could forget Gothic 1 and 2 to play them again
and I will never forget how they changed Xardas, fuck that
>>342980473
What about Forsaken Gods?
>>342980675
Haven't played it, sorry.
>>342963693
Sheeeit, that was close. Thanks for the heads up. Not giving any money to filthy kikes.
>>342979976
Use the system pack for gothic 1 and 2.
>>342963693
Didn't PB buy back the IP some years ago?
>>342980675
Absolutely terrible, stay away. It was outsourced to designated vidya devs who had no idea about pretty much anything that made the other games good.
>>342963693
I thought that was just for some years and then they got the IP back, I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
>>342981018
Ouch, that bad? So not even worth it for the story? Not that I think I can put up with a game that rapes Gothic's gameplay.
>>342981296
Nope. Seriously, Forsaken Gods and Arcania - fuck em.
>>342980325
It's the same mod. The recent releases are supposedly unstable for Gothic 1, so you should use one of the earlier releases.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=484664831
>>342980504
Use community patches and qiest patches i dont exactly know all of them but they fix alot of shit i think there also was a content mod
Any of you here played dark saga, velaya, returning mod , or requiem mod? (All have english subtitles and add alot of new stuff like new stories and areas and so on)
>>342980923
Answer this please. I'm considering buying it.
>>342981374
Alright than, thanks for the warning.
It's funny, a few years ago I really wanted to play Arcania hoping for something similar to Divinity 2. But then just before finalizing my purchase I noticed it was called "Gothic 4", and that changed my mind because I didn't want to get into another long series.
It seems I dodged a bullet that day.
>>342981796
Combat is the weakest part of the game if you ask me even if it does add alot of cool stuff like dual wielding and cool magic but there are quite a few community patches and stuff that make the game a lot better, also the story is rather weak but the exploration and map and the atmosphere are all really good
>>342981796
I'm pretty sure that happened around the time Risen 3 was announced, because I remember everyone talking about how they might pick up the Gothic series again after R3, or maybe even merge the two somehow. Of course that was before they said they never want to do another Gothic ever again.
How's Gold edition (w/ Night of the Raven) compared to vanilla Gothic 2? I heard some conflicting reports about the difficulty - is it okay for someone who just completed Gothic 1?
>>342983037
It's more difficult, but most importantly you'll have to do get out a pen and a piece of paper and jot down shit before you start investing LP because it's easy to fuck up a build.
>>342983037
>is it okay for someone who just completed Gothic 1?
I just finished G1 like a week ago, but so far Gold doesn't feel too hard. As of now the hardest part for me was to get used to the slightly reworked combat system, and the much more complex enemy behaviors.
>>342983037
If you just finished 1 you'll be fine. Weenies who hear it's the best game in the series and start with it can't deal with the difficulty and bitch about it, but since you know what the games are about you can deal with it.
>>342983037
NotR is objectively superior. Only babbies that skip 1 complain about the difficulty.
>>342983247
If >>342968347 is true, that basically means there is no way to completely fuck up, no matter how badly you mismanage your LPs. Of course, if you fuck up so hard you have to rely on that 5 damage per hit, things are bound to get very, very interesting.
>>342983037
The biggest difference between vanilla and NOTR (apart from entire new map) is the cost of learning, which doubles and triples at certain points (30 and 60 I think). I suggest playing vanilla first simply because its a smoother experience, NOTR practically forcves you to minmax and exploit everything
>>342983563
On the other hand, only someone who played 1 will feel like crying himself to sleep upon hearing the protagonist's new voice actor.
>>342983810
Melee builds are easier to fuck up than mages.
Mage can just summon skeleton/goblin the entire game and steamroll, mana pots are easy to obtain.
>>342984006
It's the same one in 2. 3 changed it and yeah for the worse, but I got used to it.
>>342984006
What are you talking about, its the same person
>>342984129
No way. The sudden change in VAs during dialog where you have both vanilla and NotR lines is incredibly jarring, that can't be the same guy. NotR guy delivers his lines in such a fucking soulless way.
>>342984710
>>342984437
>>342984129
>>342984006
English or German version?
talking about voices, is there a way to get German cutscenes with English subtitles?
>>342984123
>Xardas is a traitor because he turned to necromancy
>even fire mages are perfectly okay with selling necromancy scrolls to everyone and their mother as long as they have gold
Interesting.
>>342985289
English breh.
The Gothic games are the most boring, bland, uninspired RPGs I've ever been tricked into playing.
>>342985415
Gotta be realistic, summon scrolls are hella useful.
>>342985289
I was talking about the English one. I like it well enough, protagonist and Diego were both great. I'm sure the German is better, but I'd constantly feel like I'm missing out since I don't speak it, so I rather just stick with English.
What's the best scroll in the beginning and why is it ice wave?
>>342971758
>Wasn't the first Risen better than Gothic 3 (even the bugfixed one)?
It was, it's almost as good as NotR, while the characters aren't nearly as memorable, the combat is great and whole island is just beautiful and ripe for exploration
>>342985734
Because Ice wave is the best spell, always. I was spamming it the entire game.
>>342983037
Notr is not hard if you make a dedicated melee/archer/mage build but imo its also not too bad with a mixed build
>>342985710
You're not really missing anything, i tried german version like a year ago and while few characters like Diego or Lester sound better than in english, everyone talks so fucking fast it feels like you're adventuring in land of chipmunks.
Chromanin would be one of the best quests ever if not for the lackluster ending. Although that "wait, that's it?" you feel when it's over is pretty spooky in a way.
>>342983247
>>342983361
>>342983373
>>342983810
>>342984001
thanks, lads, guess I'll be okay.
any tips for not fucking up a melee build? I'm really liking melee with some crossbowing in Gothic 1, and I don't really want to start playing as a mage in Gothic 2
>>342986496
Dip in the alchemy and language skills, there are a lot of plants for permanent potions and tablets that increase stats.
>>342986496
If you invest like 25 points into dex, you can raise it easily to 60 with rings and tablets which allows you to use one fo the best swords in the game which you can find easily even in the first chapter. Dex is also important for pickpocketing, which is now super useful since it gives you ton of experience.
Don't invest anything into mana, all scrolls now cost 5.
>>342986496
Learning points into STR until 30 or something for starters so you can use a decent weapon, then get your preferred weapon mastery up until you start hitting large LP costs for increasing them, then start using tablets and other stuff to increase the specialization, get it to 60% fast.
Don't start using STR elixirs until after 60 or something, don't even bother increasing your life with elixirs.
>>342986946
>life with LP
>>342986784
It takes something like 20 LPs to max out a single potion line, right? Provided you only focus on either the health or mana line, and in case of the former toss in that extra 5 LP for strength or dexterity, will you be able to make enough permanent stat potions to make up for the investment (so 20-25 LPs you could have spent directly on your stat of choice)?
>>342987057
You cant increase hp with lp in g2
>>342987220
You'll find at least 15 King Sorrel's in the game if you go around merchants every chapter, and that's not counting the ones found in the world, Alchemy is so fucking worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WRDk0NJMoc
Has anyone here ever played Diccuric? It was sold in a bundle with Gothic 1 here in Russia, but I'm not sure how popular is it in other countries. The world is absolutely amazing. I haven't actually played any Souls games, but after seeing a lot of Dark Souls gameplay I've come to a thought that Diccuric is as close to Souls as you could get in terms of level design and exploration back in 2006. It is unfinished, though. What a shame.
>>342987220
Oh yeah. There are at least a dozen STR potions you can make, honestly there might be even more than that. x3 points per potion that's at least 36 STR which is a lot of LPs considering that you should only drink them after you reach the stage where 1 point of STR costs like 3-4 LPs.
>>342987419
I only played a broken unfinished version with a single area with a half translation from german it felt like a demo or something, didnt know it was finished at some point, looked rather promising
>>342987365
>15 King Sorrel's
Okay, so are the crafted potions of the +2, +5, +10, or +15 variety? Either would make it worth it, I'm just curious how ridiculous it gets.
>>342987419
What is it? Just some Gothic mod?
>>342987702
3 for STR and DEX
5 for Mana
>>342985530
Its sad to see you without a single (You), here, take this one
>>342980473
community patch makes base gameplay bearable but it cant fix the empty world filled with shitty treasure and a bunch of towns full of no one important and there just for the sake of bad liberation mechanic
>>342987702
In notr hp potions give 15hp i think and 3 str but there are not more than 9-10 dragonroots in the game, also str cap from trainers is 100 i believe but you can get it to 120 by using an orcish warlord ring (you can get in chapter 4 the earliest by returning to khorinis and killing a warlord that have spawned all over the island) so add in the potions and tablets amd stuff you could potentially get around 160-180 str if you focus on str only
>>342987441
>>342987874
Ah shit, yeah that's good. I was going to spend LPs on mana and increase strength with potions only, but this changes things. If this is how it is investing in alchemy, putting LPs in strength, and increasing mana with potions is clearly the way to go.
>>342987617
The main quest line just suddenly stops without a cliffhanger telling to wait for either Diccuric 2 or an update with new quests and territories. Never happened.
>>342987798
Yep.
>>342981474
I played with DX11 and they're not really unstable, bugged but predictable. Like: teleporting to location without going to it on foot in the same session won't make the area load and you end up with black screen, loading game from underground levels will fuck up draw distance BADLY(pic related, can be avoided by loading save near the underground level but still on surface and entering it normally and THEN loading the save made in underground). The only bug that happened to me that was completely out of nowhere was ground being replaced by water material.
>>342984006
The protagonist has the same VA between Gothic 1 and 2
>>342988145
>melee
>mana
???
Your other use of potions besides STR should be HP or DEX if you don't care about having 400+ HP
>>342988173
Mate if you want a good russian mod try dark saga its fuckin awesome, just dont play on hardest difficulty cuz that one has bad balance
>>342971174
Oh fuck I completely missed that they gave out new infos.
I gotta say I'm fucking hyped right now. I've been burned three times by them now but I just can't let go of the thought of playing something as good as Gothic 2 in my life again.
Let's hope they don't fuck it up.
>>342988308
I'm playing a spellsword, anon. Finding the right balance is going to be important.
>>342963693
The original publisher released an Arcania abomination and went bankrupt. Then Nordic Games bought the rights and released Gothic games on Steam. Now PB got the rights back but they're currently developing new IP.
>>342988527
Which faction are you planning on joining?
>>342988145
By the way there are a bunch of potions around the world as well as tablets that increase stats. I'd not invest LP in mana increases at all as melee. Get STR to 94 then use your bonus giving items. You'll probably end up with over 200 STR in between those and rings and amulets.
>>342988527
Join the monastery in that case because other guilds have pathetic/no magic so you can make a pretty cool character
>>342988415
My only wish is for this and bannerlord to be great so i never need another game again
>>342988527
Paladin's have pretty shitty magic, and going with mages will increase your STR and weapon learning cost even more.
Spellsword is doable as a mage, but you'll need to really know what you're doing.
>>342977773
i want to beleive
i really do
>>342988660
Fire Mages. The current plan is to get strength to 50 and one-handed to 60 by the time I hit level 13. At that point stop leveling either with LPs, and start saving for circles. Then slowly build up mana along the way, and survive with mana boosting equipment early on.
>>342976229
>>342976229
felt so satisfying to knock him down a peg. him and the rice lord.
>>342963693
Is that why Gothic 1 and 2 keep crashing on loading when I try to play the game? I bought the game on steam a while ago, tried to play but they both crash on new game loading. I don't have the patience to try a bunch of fixes and tweaks.
>getting Gothic 1 to run (better) on modern systems
- fresh install game
- install patch 1.08k (gothic_patch_108k.exe) http://www.worldofgothic.com/dl/?go=dlfile&fileid=10
- install playerkit (gothic1_playerkit-1.08k.exe) http://www.worldofgothic.com/dl/?go=dlfile&fileid=28
- install systempack (g1classic-systempack-1.1.exe) http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-%C2%BD-%C2%97-SystemPack-%28ENG-DEU%29
- unplug second monitor if you have one. It fucks with the game being displayed. The systempack works for some people as a workaround, for others not.
>getting Gothic 2 to run (better) on modern systems
- fresh install game
- install fix (gothic2_fix-2.6.0.0-rev2.exe) (FOR G2 + ADDON)
ALT.: install fix (gothic2_fix-1.30.0.0.exe) (FOR VANILLA) http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/download_278.htm
- install player kit (gothic2_playerkit-2.6f.exe) http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/download_168.htm
- install system pack (g2notr-systempack-1.1.exe) http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-%C2%BD-%C2%97-SystemPack-%28ENG-DEU%29
- unplug second monitor if you have one. It fucks with the game being displayed. The systempack works for some people as a workaround, for others not.
>DX11 mod
https://github.com/degenerated1123/GD3D11/tree/master/PreviewBuilds
>DX11 installation info
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1436307-D3D11-Renderer-f%C3%BCr-Gothic-2-%28alpha%29-13Modded pasta
>>342989315
All you need is the player kit and system pack. It will crash no matter what id you don't have them.
>>342989057
O shit its comin out in less than a year already? I hope they dont push it out early
>>342989373
>>342989373
superior guide to the modding gothic 1 inc
do everything here up to step 6: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=484664831
then install the graphics stuff listed here at steps 4 and 5:
https://www.gog.com/forum/gothic_series/gothic_series_patches_mods_tweaks/post101
also you should always run the game using the "modded starter" exe in the gothic/system folder
Is there a map of all the dragon locations in Gothic 3? I know about the two in the cave under that coast city and I think there was another one in the desert area?
>>342990036
If it's gonna be somewhere it's gonna be on WoG
>>342988793
>>342989027
Yep, that's the plan. I toyed with the idea of going with dexterity, but at the end of the day for a spellsword strength look like a better investment.
For 60 dex I could get the Master Sword with 120 base damage.
However if I raise my strength to 50, and then get the +5 with apples, the +2 from the training tip, the +1(?) from the guy who got his tablets stolen, possibly a shrine if there is any, and whatever I get from potions, I can definitely get it to a level that will allow me to wield ~80 base damage swords. Together with the strength bonus that would give me at least around 150 damage later in the game, which easily trumps Master Sword.
The one thing I'm not sure about is if, how and when to invest in hunting/alchemy/rune crafting/language, as outside alchemy I don't really know the LP progression for these skills. But if I save on anything, it's going to be mana. That is the only thing that isn't going to be a priority until I'm about done with the rest.
>>342990036
I think theres one in the mountians in the geeen lands (maybe near faring only remember hat its really hard to reach and high up) also there might be one in a cave between montera and gotha ( also dont know if i remember correctly maybe there are only generic monsters in there) and the ones you mention, dont know of any others tho
>>342990641
Hunting I would completely skip on if you're stretching your LPs so thin, besides maybe the shadowbeast horn trophy because that's a huge source of experience.
>>342989871
Why is Xardas so fucking cool? No homo.
>>342990641
It's 5/10/15 LP for the three tiers of languages that let you read tablets with 2/4/6 bonuses to main stats, mana and weapon skills and 5/10/15 bonus health.
>>342990641
If you gater enaugh gold you can get 10 str and 10 dex in chapter 1 from praying at a shrine if i remember correctly and at some later chapter( maybe even more than twice) anoter 10 on each, also extra mana and hp (or was it 5 each time) anyway you donate max amount and go to sleep until next day and repeat until it doesnt give you stats
>>342990641
>>342991336
Also you get double bonuses if you're a paladin for up to +20 str.
>>342990873
Isn't hunting needed to get rune materials, though? At least that's what someone said in some other thread. However 5 LPs for every hunting skill is an insanely steep price.
What's the LP cost for lock-pick? Is the loot good enough to get it? Because if it costs between 5-10 LPs, but potentially gets me a, say, better mana ring than what I could get otherwise, that's a good enough ROI.
>>342991557
You can find all rune mats in the world, or being sold, even golem hearts and fire lizard tongues.
>>342991557
Only thing i can think of that is a hunting trophy is creature hearts rest of the stuff should be generic loot you can find and buy
>>342991557
It's 10 LP and off the top of my head I remember at least one stat increasing potion in a chest. Not to mention quests and loads of loot inside regular chests.
Lockpicking and basic skinning are always a good idea.
>>342991557
Lockpicking can get you alot of gold very useful if you donate to shrines for stats
>>342991143
So three levels altogether. Sounds like a good investment. The question is when to do it then.
Is the circle progression cost the same as it was in 1? 70 for 1-4, 30 for 5, and 40 for 6?
>>342991336
>>342991402
Thanks. That's pretty good. Gold for stat is the best kind of deal. Although since I'm going Monastery I'll miss out on that double bonus. Shame, but acceptable.
>>342991557
Lockpicking will get you at least a few elixirs, amongst other stuff like scrolls, weapons, armors, rings and gold.
Extremely useful.
>>342992256
Also pick up all the small mushrooms and eat them for the extra mana and save up atleast 10 Stone tablets before you give them to vatras,
>>342985960
>Risen
>the combat is great
I never played as Fire Mage in G2
>>342993027
Start is really challenging if you go pure mage but the mid-end game is really easy but pretty fun with end game spells
>>342960227
I did my best and thats all Jesus asks of me
>all this talk about game mechanics in Gothic 2
Fuck. The only things I dislike about Gothic 1 so far is the small amount of skills and the small map (which leads to backtracking). If Gothic 2 improves on this it'll probably end up as one of my favorite games
>>342992872
I also liked the combat in risen 1 it shits on the combat of the next games it just has a nice progression as you get stronger but obviously its far from perfect
>>342993454
>\dev\gothic\current_work\
huh?
>>342993454
If its steam version then pirate the gog one and try playerkit and other shit that was mentioned in the thread
>>342960227
>spamming ctrl + w is actually easier and more effective than fighting as you're supposed to
>>342993519
Are you fucken mad?
>>342994123
Every Orc and skeleton will block that and shit in your face right afterwards.
Why does it feel like Skeletons and undead paladins hav 100% crit?
Their hits FUCKING HURT
>>342994168
Its the last similar experience to gothic 1/2 ive had and i enjoyed it alot
>night of the raven
>coming back from the place you were at in g1
>some fucking hobo in a robe blocks my way
>that should be eas-
>2 shots me
>only my crits deal damage to him
>manage to discover a new tactic that involves pinning them to a wall and doing an unstoppable flurry of attacks to stunlock them
>still most of the times they just fireballed my ass
notr was some hardcore shit
>>342994571
They have at least 60% and apparently a lot of strength.
Which pretty much guarantees you're dead in two hits without 60+ blade resistance
>>342991748
>>342992004
>>342992080
>>342992192
>>342992380
>>342992657
Whew. Thanks for the help everyone.
So I think I'm skipping hunting if that is the case, but if it turn out to be necessary I'll adjust the plan along the way.
In which case:
level 3: +20 OH, +5 STR, basic hunting
level 4: lockpicking
level 8: +35 STR, basic alchemy
level 14: +30 OH
level 16: language 1-2 (if available). mana potion tier 1 (if avaliable)
level 19: circle 1-2 (working on the assumption cost is same as in Gothic 1, I'll really have to look this up)
And I'll figure out the rest once I'm there and have a better idea about specific costs.
How does it sound?
>>342995239
Damn you must have had a really weak character if you couldnt damage seekers
>>342995636
I'd rather go for mastery in OH first before STR, high crit, faster hits and more combos sounds better to me than more damage.
>>342995845
fuck me i just remembered, i was able to hit them but every hit took like 1/50 of their hp if not less
>>342995636
If you want more mana you can put some points into it early while the lp cost is low
DO you need fixes for these games or can you just change it to a modern resolution and you're good to go?
>>342995636
Also after you join the monastery cost of learning strenght increases ridiculous amount (not sure if true for weapon skillalso )
Do the merchants in G1 never get more ore? I don't have anyone to sell my stuff to ;_;
>>342996176
Not sure if it has widescreen and huge screen resolutions withiut any fixes but if the game works without prpblems for you i think the resolutions should also work, if you want to be 100% sure use dx11 mod it makes the game look so much better (its like 150 mb and you just have to drag it in your game folder and your good to go)
>>342966995
Played 3 this year and it's pretty damn good.
Game was rushed out by publisher before it was fully completed and tested, with loads of bugs this gave it a bad reputation. However community patch fixes most of the issues. Game is just as good as Gothic2, if not better
>>342995352
How does the resistance work in G2?
>>342996968
I think they do between chapters, you can also use arriws and bolts as currency since they always cost 1 ore a piece
>>342995913
On the other hand that would mean I'd have to survive with 15 STR (+5 from girdle) and "fighter" until level 10, or 9, if I delay lockpicking. I might be able to buy some STR enhancing ring for the time being, but from what I can tell magical rings cost around 1300 gold, so that will take some time.
Wouldn't better damage be better early on instead of essentially playing a level 3 character for another 6 levels?
>>342996038
Does the cost increase even before hitting 100? I can wait with using potions and such and rely only on items until I can put some LPs in mana, but I don't know if I'll have enough spare LPs for it later to wait with it. Albeit in Gothic 1 the key was finding spells that synergize well with melee combat, and that wasn't very mana-heavy. A mana pool of 25 was more than enough to cover my needs until the last third of the game.
>>342996401
Yeah, I don't plan on joining the Monastery until I'm done with STR and OH. I feel getting to level 14 before that is doable.
>>342997332
Base weapon damage - armor amount + STR(if crit)
So.
You got 20 blade resistance against 40STR on a 30dmg weapon
You take 10 base damage, if it crits you take 50 damage.
>>342997434
100 is max any teeacher will teach you and lp costs increase in the middle i think first time when you reach 30str it costs 10lp for 5 str, but you can save lp
If you get 29 str and then get 5 for 5
Lp
>>342997562
That feel when monsters crit you at the start of the game.
>Activate marvin mode
>Cheat into different human characters
>Unequip there clothes, put them on the ground
>Get into main char again
>Take all the clothes
>Equip woman clothes
>lol hearthily
>Get next to orcs
>Put all the gathered clothes on the ground
>Cheat into orc
>Take all the clothes
>Equip human clothes
>???
>Laugh your ass off.
Has anyone done this, besides me and my friends?
Is used to think it was so hilarious - I still do.
Can't find any pictures of it tho, you'll have to do it yourselves.
>>342998091
Dude try doing that with a dragon btw ive done that with orcs too xd
>>342998091
What
>>342998205
What...
Do dragons have inventory?
I never tried that, is it similarly awesome?
>>342998339
Yeah its hilarious, you can also talk to
People and they dont gove a shit, any way you could get a screenshot? I cant take screenshots in the game without them going blank
>>342998595
Heh, nice.
Unfortunately no screenshots, I don't have it installed on this PC.
I wanted to ask for screenshots too, but well...
>>342998884
I wish more games had a marvin mode of similar greatness, you can fix any problem with it and have countless hours of fun
>>342997787
Oh shit.
I was aware of the weapon skill cost increase, but had no idea attributes work the same way.
Fuck. So that means getting to 50 (49, really) STR will take until level 9, OH until 15, and alchemy will have to wait.
However this also means I'll definitely have to get mana to 34 sooner that I thought.
Herp, maybe waiting with alchemy until very late in the game is a better idea, since I won't be crafting stat potions until then anyway. I can learn the whole skill line in one go around the time I'm level 30, probably.
As for swapping OH and STR, probably not a good idea after all. I need a decent weapon. Although the sword I just found, Wolf's Tooth with its 45 damage and only 22 STR requirement might get me through that 6 level wait, in which case I only 5 more STR now.
>>342999139
Overall, G2: NotR is still the greatest RPG of all time imo.
I replayed it 2 years ago or so and it still lives up.
I don't know how many times I replayed it, but it's always fun to discover the world and characters, training yourself from a stick-wielding faggot with a big mouth to a mighty Dragon Slayer with a cocky attitude.
>God, I'm thinking about reinstalling again...
>>342996968
>>342997360
Never mind, looks like it was a display issue, when I selected the trader's ore it changed to the "restocked" value.
>>343000357
Why do you even need the ore anyway?
>Gothic Universe is on sale for 4 bucks on Steam
>Gothic + Arcania is 5 bucks
Even if its only 1 euro more - It's not worth it
>>343000597
I wouldnt play it if they paid me to
>>343000348
Did you ever try it wit dx11 graphics mod?
>>343000597
How does Arcania compare to other, non-Gothic RPGs? Say, Ultima 9, Invisible War, Oblivion, or Amalur? Maybe it isn't that shit for only 1 oyro.
>>343000554
Dunno, guess I don't. Still, I don't like the thought of giving away all my loot for free.
>>343001035
It's linear. The game locks you out of areas that you already visited.
The combat is brainless clicking
RPG elements don't impact anything.
The game got made by a small team that only did handheld platformers before with no experience around RPGs.
is it possible to play gothic with a360 controller?
>>343001313
It's also rather tough without a lot of Dank Souls rolling, shit does a lot of damage.
>>343001135
>find ore in Gothic 2
>a single piece is worth 200 gold
FUCKING HELL I USED TO BE FILTHY RICH
WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING HERE IN RAGS MURDERING SHEEP WITH A STICK
I COULD HAVE A CASTLE
I COULD BUY THE ENTIRE GODDAMN ISLAND
IF ONLY THE BARRIER--
WHAT HAVE I DONE
>>343001493
An aRPG without the ability to consistently avoid damage may as well not be one.
>>343000994
Nah, I don't give a shit about graphics mostly.
Maybe I'll check it out if I'll ever reinstall.
>>343001035
Just the very thought of Arcania...
It's as if the developers decided to take all that's good about Gothic series and then promptly threw it all away, filling the remainder with shittiness and mediocrity. Nothing good about that one, really. Do not try it. It's bad.
Atleast Piranha got the rights at the end and declared the shitty G3 addon made by hindus not-canon. And Arcania also is its own shitty universe.
If they ever do a new Gothic game they can start whereever they want. Make it take place after 3 or replace 3 .
>>343001443
Nah you can play the whole game one handed on keyboard but no controller
>>343001926
>or replace 3
I think that would be the best. If they already declared 2 games non-canon, they might as well go all the way. Except
>If they ever do a new Gothic game
they said they won't.
>>343001926
I'd love to see Gothic 3 as they intended it. Basically a full remake, similar area but made just the way they wanted it to be done without Jowood forcing them to release too early.
That'd truly kick ass... To get Gothic 3 without the obviously rushed story, combat, world. But only if they still have the spark. Many from the original Gothic team are gone AFAIK, I doubt they'd pull that off.
>>343002121
In a recent ELEX interview the producer said they are always playing with the thoughts of making a new Gothic but decided against it again and again because they like doing what they are doing now and because the expectations would be overkill.
If ELEX flops and they have nothing more left to offer they will probably go for it.
>>343002276
So are you saying we should not buy ELEX?
>beat the rice lord and Lefty almost to death
>can now walk through the mansion and do whatever the fuck I want without them having the courage to yell at me
Were they cucks?
>>343002392
If ELEX is good there is no reason not to buy it.
And in the modern industry they can always come with excuses to not do what people want them to do.
Risen 3 still sold well so even if ELEX flops they would probably rather go back to Risen than making Gothic 3/4.
>>343002392
Well at this point it looks kinda bland and unexciting with a tired "technology is cold and merciless so be a hippy" message.
>>343002392
Kek
>>343002501
I loved that entire quest, especially the journey entries that go from
>sure why not
to
>now wait a fucking second
and finally
>serves those faggots right
If there's one thing I really miss in G2 is is G1's journal entries. They are in general less cocky, but what hurts is that finished quests don't get a final gloating entry.
How do I get Gothic 1 to run on Windows 10.
>>343003095
Works like a charm here
>we will never see a character as great as Mud ever again in the history of gaming
>>343003095
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=242675318
>>343003095
By learning how to computerize
>>343003242
Do you use any specific compatibility mode?
>you have a map from the start in your menu
>questmarkers
>no animations for stuff like eating or drinking
>you can just pause the game and heal yourself entirely even during combat
>rolling makes you invincible
>combat is now just you choosing between hitting hard or hitting slightly more hard
>QTE
>invisible walls
Risens later games did so much wrong. The humour and quest designs are pretty much still the same as they were back then but the consolization of those games is simply horrible.
Why is it bad that you need to do work to get a map?
How hard is it to make some shitty non-mocap animations for stuff like drinking?
Why does it need to be so fucking easy? Just go the Dark Souls way and make it normal while pretending that its super hard.
I will probably end up buying ELEX near day-1 but i know i will probably feel bad about everything again.
>>343003095
gog version
>>343002531
Risen 3 received pretty bad ratings though, right? Even if it sold alright hopefully they won't go back to it for a while.
The only real threat is ELEX turning out to be a massive commercial success, because then we can say goodbye to Gothic for another decade. Alternatively it selling like absolute shit might bankrupt them.
So best case scenario is most likely the game doing alright, but not that good.
>>343002568
>Berserkers of Edan
>magic instead of technology
>berserkers
>magic
They are going to pull a Sect Camp on us, aren't they?
>>343003596
Weren't Berserkers just literally medieval swordsmen and bowmen with the ''magic berserkers'' being their own faction?
>>343003397
I didn't for vanilla, but for DX11 I set it to
8-bit colors
Deactivate monitor scaling (or whatever it's called in English)
Are 3 and 4 worth playing? I've heard bad things about both but I'm desperately craving for something to play.
>>343003831
>>343003397
Oh, and mod it. Check out the GOG forums for which fixes/patches you should use
>>343003924
3 is mot bad with content mod and patches 4 is complete trash no mattewhat you do to it
>>343003924
4 does not exist.
Gothic 3 is kinda dividing.
While it isn't really close to Gothic 2 and the original in terms of gameplay some still consider it a top tier RPG even with it being somewhat incomplete.
>The entire world is open with no loading times
>three climate zones
>you can kill EVERYONE
>you form the world with your actions - Help the orcs and secure the woodlands for them or help the resistence and liberate the area and push the orcs back
>multiple endings that show the consequences of your actions
>like in a Bethesda game you can go wherever you want from the start and you don't need to fear 99% of all enemies if 1vs1
>if you get the settings right the game does look beautiful
>>343004465
Also it plays like horseshit
>>343004586
Unless you play it in RAMDisk
Gothic 3 runs like shit because the game only ever uses one single core.
It will run decently if you have a strong core that can carry the game and a SSD.
An orc just jumped up to my sniping place and attacked me
This
Fucking
Game
