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3 = VC > 4 >> 5 >>>>>> SA

Prove me wrong.
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YOU BETTER DRIVE
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lmao that's completely backwards

SA <<<<<<<<< 5 << 4 < VC = 3
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4 >>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally every other game in the franchise
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SA >>>>>> 5 <<<<<<<<< SA ><>< 3 >=< VC >_> 4
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3=VC>SA>5>4
honest opinion
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SA>5>VC>3>4

Though they are all good games
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>>342954526

we could probably be friends
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>>342954291

>4 was my first GTA
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VC>3>4>2>SA>5
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>>342954229
>SA <<<<<<<<< 5 << 4 < VC = 3
good job dumbass, you said the exact same thing he did
american education
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>>342954039
SA>4>5>VC>3
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>>342954892
I wish, fampai. I played Vice City and San Andreas before playing GTA 4 and even then playing those games was fucking suffering.
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3>vc>sa>cw>5>4+expansions>lc=vc stories>2>1>london61+69>advanced
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>>342954039
nice shit taste you have there, son
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>all these people putting 4 above 5

5 > SA > 4 > VC > 3
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I don't get why people hate 4 so much aside from poor optimization and small world. Story is by far the best in the whole franchise.
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>>342955074
>this guy got to fuck taylor swift
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>>342955293

>story is best in the franchise

that's not really saying much. Besides which, who plays gta for the story?
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SA>VC>2>3>1>4>5
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>>342955293
who the fuck cares about the story in a gta game??
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San Andreas = Vice City > III > V > Episodes from LS > giving yourself paper cuts on the ballsack > IV
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VC > SA > 4 > 3
Haven't had the opportunity to play 5 yet.
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>>342954607
>>342955074
>>342955439
>>342955470
>SA was my first GTA detected

It was the worst game in the series, that introduced retarded skill mechanics, dates and fucking gang wars that were unbearable.
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IV > San Andreas > Vice city > 3 > power gap > 5
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SA was the best GTA to date. Did the subtle humor thing previous GTA games were known for and had characters you really got invested into.

4 cocked it up by going grim dark realism, but never really delivering on the hard hitting drama that should have accompanied that tone. It felt flat and forgettable all around.

5 tried too hard to go back to old GTA humor and ended up feeling like Saint's Row.
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>>342955650

I dunno if I'd go that far about 5 but yeah it didn't have the same charm as the other games.
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>>342955590
>hating on gang wars
Fuck off, you're just some whack ass nigga.
Gang wars became really enjoyable. Nothing better than just genociding some niggas and spics and just wiping them off the map.
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>half the people put 3 on the first place and another half on the last
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>>342955590
3 was my first but ok.
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>>342955714
So you like doing same thing hundred times. You must be a fan of ass creed too.
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>>342955050
>taking the bait after the post began with "lmao"

you know better than that anon..
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>>342954039
Why?
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>>342954039
>4 >> 5
How to spot shit taste
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VC > IV > 3 > SA > V
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SA > VC > 5 > 3 >>>>>>> 4
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>>342954039
>Prove me wrong.
_________________I can't._________________
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>>342955590

literally none of the things you mentioned were added in such a way as to impede the gameplay or stop you from completing the story. If I remember right you literally only had to go on 2 or 3 dates over the entire game's main storyline and gang wars were also completely optional except for their introductory mission explaining how they worked.

There's no reason to hate them that much when they were basically all avoidable. Same thing for the skill mechanics.
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>>342955590
My first GTA was GTA 1. San Andreas is the best in the series. If you'll be a contrarian asswipe drink bleach instead of water.
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>>342955293
I agree, the one where your former best friend betrays you and you get revenge on him is the best one imhotbqhwy
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>>342956098
>Same thing for the skill mechanics
Not avoidable by any means.
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>>342955748

I put 3 first for pure nostalgia I will admit that. I have never played a game more than gta 3 except for maybe the original Ghost Recon or MGS2
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>>342955442
GTA 4 offered something new, something mature. My personal opinion is that it's the best GTA because it's not so big and explosion-filled and "Hollywood". It did things differently.
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>>342954526
YES

>>342955860
oh but he made a 'funny' reference to american education how can you not
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>>342955590
Balla bitch detected
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>>342955965
>how to spot shit taste
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>>342956220
>something mature
Yeah, especially the intro with all this "VODKA AND BIG TITTIES" bullshit that makes me cringe everytime.
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>>342956171

Yes they are and in fact, most of them you increase without you even realizing since they increase while you do standard things in the game (i.e. like driving and shooting.)

I can think of literally one mission off the top of my head where you had to grind for proper stats or you couldn't play it.

If that's what you're complaining about then you're just nitpicking.
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>>342955293
Because most teenagers just play GTA to do rAnDOm and hilarious crazy XDD things. These are the people who love 5. It's basically made for them.
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SA > VC > 3 >IV > V

This is a fact.
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Ok niggers listen up.
This is how it goes.

VC>SA>4>5>3

You don't agree? Well go fuck yourself, this is my opinion. And it's 3 was the first grade I played , followed by VC and so on. Fuck you
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>>342956220
>gta 4 is mature
>literally five minutes into the game THIRTY SIX FLAVORS OF TITTY
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>>342954039

SA>VC>3>4>5
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>>342956472
Switch 3 with V and we are cool.
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>>342956472
go bait somewhere else u cunt
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>>342956472
Seems about right, but 3=IV
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>>342954039
It's so easy to make you faggots argue over anything.
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>>342956410

>I like 4 for the good story

see that's the funny thing. The story ISN'T good, it's good for gta but it's shit when held to any other standard so somebody who claims to care about "good story" in their vidya would not care about gta in the first place and if they did end up playing 4 would probably fucking hate it just as much as the hardcore gta fans do.
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I never played any GTA so I'm starting out with 3 because of the steam sale

if that fucking cash intro is anything to go by, im probably in a hell of a ride
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>>342956392
Swimming. You can't do one of the main missions for that blind chink without some levels in swimming.
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>>342956220
It really didn't though. BEEG AMERICAN TITTIES

Also the goofy bullshit is exactly WHY people like VC and SA so much. Characters like Big Smoke or Ryder are enjoyable to be around. IV takes itself too seriously, which makes its silly moments awkward instead of endearing or funny.
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>>342956814
You will have fun Anon. It's good.
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>>342956836

yeah that's the one and tbf yeah it annoyed me but still the game isn't saturated with skill grinding.
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>>342956545
>>342956368
It's not my fault that you two can't recognize a immature character with very big hopes which matures while the story progresses
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>>342956814
I played 3 for the first time fairly recently and have to say, it's only remembered because it was the first 3d GTA. Otherwise, VC and SA are superior in every way.
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>>342956814
Just don't be disheartened by the janky (by todays standards) controls
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>>342956814
What the fucking fuck? What rock have you been living under?
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>>342956992
>SA
>superior

You're retarded.
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So the consensuses is that for someone new to GTA that he should just play 3 and Vice City?
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>>342957076
Great argument, faggot.
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>>342955203
5 was horrible compared to the others in the series
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>>342956368
>>342956545

Yeah 4 isn't mature! xP We need more ebic characters like Trevor. I love wacky Trevor haha XD he's so crazy and random!
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>>342954039
>implying Vice City isn't GOAT
VC>SA=4>3>5
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>>342957203
5 is shit too fggt
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This is the right order.

VC=3>SA>4=5

4=5 cause boat driving
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>people actually say San Andreas is the worst
Catalina? I know it's you, what's eating you, baby?
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SA>IV>VC>3>2>the rest>>>>>>>>>>>V
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>>342957203

worst playable gta character in the history of the franchise. it's like one of the writers let their 12 year old son come up with a character for them.
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>>342954039

Correct

>city was specifically built as a playground, not a muh realism tech demo
>characters had memorable lines because they had to carry cutscenes by themselves usually
>simple but effective vehicle stat allocation, fast cars are delicate and slow cars take damage
>aiming was difficult and not lock-on bullshit
>missions were all pretty varied and not the same two things over and over (fuck you IV)
>even today it holds up as a fun game whereas SA aged like milk because of all the weird RPG shit and fluff
>seeps personality, a british comic book's interpretation of what NYC and America is
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>>342957247
Got that wrong meant to say
VC>3>SA=4>5
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3 > 5 > VC > SA >> 4
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San Andreas > IV > Vice City > V > III

i'll always love 3 tho
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>>342957203

lolsorandum = Saints Row

Trevor is literally insane, he's excused.
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ITT: An Retards

Gay Tony>2>3>VC>Lost MC>SA>4>5
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San Andreas is the best GTA ever.
This is fact.
You're all baiting, terribly I might add.
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what did you guys think of the gta stories games? liberty city stories was pretty fun on ps2 and vice city was my favorite psp game.
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>>342954039
>SA
>4
>3
>1
>London
<2
>5
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>>342957537

>4 over 5

4 literally has the worst missions. 5 at least went back to its prime times and added more variety than "go here and shoot this" and "stalk this car".
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>>342957581
Never played Liberty City Stories and only recently started playing Vice City Stories on PSP. It's pretty good so far. Prefer Vice City itself though.
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>SA>VC>5=3>>>4
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>>342954039

>"GTA X is better than GTA Y"
whatever you choose has nothing to do with the games

it has everything to do with how old you are and which GTA was your first
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>>342957537
>new weapons and vehicles DLC for 4 at #1
>4 itself at #7

what kind of retardation is this
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>>342957858
My first was 3, I loved VC but even a huge nostalgiafag like me can recognize San Andreas is the superior game mechanically
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>>342954526
This guy got it right.
Also, welcome to chatterbox
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gta 3> gta SA >gta liberty city stories>vice city>gta4>gta2>vice city stories>gta1>gta5>chinatown wars
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THE DRIVING IN 3 VC & SA IS GARBAGE NONE OF THESE GAMES WILL BE GREAT
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>>342954526
Yeah thats pretty much my list.
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>>342957858
My first was 1 and I think SA is the best, so go fuck yourself.
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3>SA>VC>EFLC>4>5
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98 replies in an hour in such a shit thread

you should all go kill yourselves
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>>342957937

he's saying the base game of IV sucks fishman
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>>342957950

I didn't say that your first was going to be what you thought was best. Just that your first influences what you think about the series and what you expect from GTA games.

Like you, 3 was my first. Like you, I think SA was best.
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>>342958112
see:
>>342958378
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V
Vice city
SA
IV
III

all these contrarians putting v any lower than second kek
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>>342958306
3>4>5>2>1>SA>LC>Stories
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>GTA 3 was my first GTA
>played all of them in order of them coming out
>IV comes out
>OH SHIT THESE PHYSICS
>OH MY GOD I CAN PUSH SOMEBODY DOWNSTAIRS HAHAHA
>THEY ACTUALLY REACT TO BEING SHOT!
IV is my favorite for a lot of reasons, but the technological advancement blew everyone out of the water. The game looked and felt like nothing we've experienced before, the entire city was a physics playground and it takes a drooling idiot who just wants to shoot everything to not realize that. The story was so good, the characters were so memorable, the world felt so alive, and the dark humor was a breath of fresh air in comparison to the blatant humor in the previous games.

GTA IV is the black coffee of the series.
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Most memorable is 3
Best soundtrack is Vice City Stories
Best city is IV
Best cast of characters is San Andreas
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VC > SA > IV > 3 > V
>>342958851
>GTA IV is the black coffee of the series.
This.
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>>342954039
I don't like 3, it feels awkward and money is useless and there's no map
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>>342958310
so literally just adding new weapons, a black protag and an attack helicopter over the exact same mechanics and gameplay makes it that much better

thanks, that makes complete sense now.
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>tfw forgot everything about III and VC
Time to replay them + silentpatch
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>>342955050
>taking such obvious bait
How stupid are you?
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>>342959141
I'm not getting the craze over TBoGT weapons, I didn't really use them because the base game's weapons felt so nice and satisfying. The guns sounded so good, how did they go from the loud, impacting sounds of IV's weapons to the toy shit we hear in V?
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3>vc>IV>V>>>SA

Now hear me out gta3 was my first so I'm a little biased but 3 was also a revolutionary game and was way ahead of its time, gta V sucked for its story mode but online is very entertaining
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>>342958989
>Best cast of characters is San Andreas
You must be joking. All of them are black gangsta shit that's not even likeable.
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>>342954039
1. GTA Vice City
2. GTA V
3. GTA = GTA2
5. GTA SA
6. GTA III
>>>POWER GAP<<<
7. GTA IV

Objective list. If you disagree you're a fucking retard.
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>>342954526
Bingo
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SA>4>5>VC>3
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>>342959431

>all of them are black gangsta

u w0t

over half the story doesn't even take place in the ghetto. how are all the characters "black gangsta"
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>>342955590
All of that stuff was fun. I wish skill progression was in 4 and used more in 5.
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>>342959452
You forgot EFLC right bellow VC
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>>342959452
I know you're probably joking for the bants, but it's not good practice to talk like a stubborn shitlord
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>>342954039
VC>4=SA>3>5
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>>342959452
>GTA 2
>calls people retarded
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>>342959390
The explosive shotgun was neat for a little while but once I discovered I could literally shoot choppers out of the skies with it like a god, it made shootouts kind of dull.
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>>342959431
Being racist to this point.
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>>342959452
This nigga gets it.
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>tfw my favorite GTA games aren't even GTA games
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>>342957390
>SA aged like milk
>Vice City or 3 did not
Fuck this board.
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Am I the only one who thought SA's story was a little awkward?

Like, who is CJ? He's just some busta who breaks out of the ghetto then suddenly starts building and running a business. I get that you can say that for a lot of things, like,
>who is Tommy Vercetti and why can he fly a helicopter?
but the case for SA just seems a little off. Why the hell is this gangbanger starting up a business? It makes no sense. I've never been able to enjoy SA's story because of this.
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>>342954526

>likes 3
>doesn't like 4

wew
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>>342954039
Anybody that doesn't have IV at the bottom is neo/nu /v/. It's one of the biggest indicators on whether or not you're a faggot. Basically neo/nu /v/ was between the ages of 10-13 when GTA IV came out and thought it was 'da most realistic game evarrr' as they played it on their shitty xbox 360s, not realising that the game was a massive piece of shit and major disappointment compared to previous games. Realism != fun, and GTA IV suffered big time because of it. It's easily the worst GTA ever made hands down and V was a return to form.

Anybody that hasn't played GTA 1&2 is 100% confirmed nu /v/.
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>>342959690
taking away challenge =/= fun
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>>342959756
>La noire
Man that game sucked ass
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>>342954039

SA = VC > 4 > 5 > 3
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>>342959929
Hey dude, here's where you fuck up. It being a disappointment is your opinion. Get over it.
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>>342960046
The detective bits were GOAT, the tacked on GTA-like parts were not.
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>>342959929
what?

just because 4 tried to be "series" doesnt make it shit

driving was far from realistic but it was actually challenging for change

also 4 still had it comical stuff like goofy arab guy and that weight lifter closet faggot

also the city felt like city, it was dirty and packed with people
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>>342955590
All of that stuff was cool and completely optional. Skills went up as you played anyway, and even if you didn't focus on grinding specific ones your baseline levels put you at the same abilities as VC so you didn't even feel gimped.
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>>342955050
>falling for that
holy shit how can you fall for that
>american education
ah I see, it makes sense now
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>>342959756
You're a retard.
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>>342960125
But muh objective opinion
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>people think 3 is the best

3 aged like fucking milk. At the time it was great, now it is a laughable joke compared to every other GTA.
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>>342954039

You're a fucking faggot
SA > VC >>>>>> 3
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>>342955293
Poor mission variety is the main thing for me. Most missions were "Chase car to specific spot, get in firefight in the destination". Those types of missions are perfectly good and all, but they made up 80% of them in 4.

A lot of people didn't like the world either because it was small and gritty and grey and shit. I personally loved it because I like New York's atmosphere.
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>>342958851
Pretty much this, GTA IV is GOAT.
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>>342954039
SA = 3 > 4 > 5 >>>VC

I really tried to like VC but the map is terrible which brings everything down
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>>342955748
I kinda understand.
On one hand, 3 keeps the silly arcadey feel of 1 and 2 and stuffs it in a big (for the time) 3d world.

On the other hand the games after have made so many improvements that it's just crazy.
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>>342956220
COUSIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!

nah srs fuck off with ur shit taste m8
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>>342960382
>VC map sucks

this, a million times
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>>342957187
just play em in order starting from 3, yeah.

I'd argue even the Stories games are worth a play too just to fuck around in the old cities with SA's mechanics.
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>>342955590
This is really sad that you think people only like SA because it was the first one they played. Shows some projecting on your part that you let nostalgia of the first game you played affect which you say is the best today. 3 was the first I played and loved it at the time but VC is objectively better than it (this much is fact) and SA subjectively better than VC.
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>>342958851
Too bad the actual core gameplay was boring af tho. Same can be said for the entire campaign, a fucking quarter of which is literally a tutorial. And as aesthetically pleasing as GTA IV's city was there was actually fuck all to do in it.

GTA Snore sucked ass and I'm glad Rockstar got that shite out of their system, hopefully forever.
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All these people saying V was the worst
Tell me why did it sell so much then and why is it the highest rated game for 3 years now ?
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>>342959916
3 and 4 are nothing alike. Everything that i love about 3 is absent/ruined in 4.
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>>342960798
I loved GTA 5 but ad populum is bs m8. Go to bed nu /v/.
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>>342960798

V wasn't the worst, IV was (save for a new good design choices in that version of Rage engine)
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>>342958851
Ain't gonna lie I've spent hours just pushing people around in 4. It's the funniest shit just slowly walking into someone shoving them into a pole until they slowly die.
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The only people who think 3 is the best are delusional nostalgiafags. The game aged like milk and is objectively the worst.
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>>342959431
>he literally hasn't even played 25% of the game
wew
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>>342959929
Most missions aren't good, but it was a nice change of pace for those who had been playing the series for some time. Going out with someone, having some big talk about life, the characters felt more "real" and so did the city. Niko is definitely a great protag.
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Is IV the one where your needy friends constantly called you and demanded you take them bowling? I fucking hated that shit.
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Been with the series since GTA1. I bought that game for my very first PC and I had endless amounts of fun with it. There we're mods and entire overhauls for it too. I still remember Burger City very fondly.
I really loved 2 too, especially it's setting.

GTA 3 was amazing but GTA VC was the one that really drew me in and the first one I 100%'d. SA was great too, near perfect game for it's time, nothing much else to say.
IV was rather disappointing on many fronts, since they did a reboot of the series world and try to go for a more deeper and edgier story instead of the light-hearted over the top silliness that came before.
Despite TECHNOLOGY and graphics there was lesser to do in the world, even the packet hunting (flying rats, I think?) was completely useless except for achievements or some shit. At least for hunting down cocaine packs or spraying graffiti in previous iterations you got rewarded with something of value in-game (Guns would spawn at your safe houses). The story was alright for the most part but you are just done with the IV after completing it.

V's biggest mistake was the 3 protagonist thing.


So really VC > SA > 3 > 1 > 2 > 3 > IV (mainly for the expansions) > V
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>>342960982
>character and cars aren't control like boats
>actual original and great music on the radio
>tight map design with no useless gigantomania
>likeable characters instead of the shit that gta characters are today
>aged like milk
yeah ok
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>>342961435
>3 > 1 > 2 > 3
>3x2
lol ur dumb
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>>342954039
SA>>3=LCS>VCS>>>>>IV=IV
i never really got into VC
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>>342961509
>talks about how good the map is
>shows a screenshot of shoreside vale
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>>342954039
GTA is like Mario Kart. Everone's favorite is within the first two they played and the series begins to wear on them after that.

I tried to play 3 last year on PCSX2 and found it charmingly primitive but SA still feels nearly full featured outside of the cover-less shooting.
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>>342955293
GTA SA had a better story and cutscenes.
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>>342961668
>Everone's favorite is within the first two they played and the series begins to wear on them after that.
MK8 is the best but I started with 64.
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>>342961560
I messed it up.
VC > SA > 3 > 1 > 2 > IV (mainly for the expansions) > V

>3x2
It's also 2x3 you dyslectic fuck :^)
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>>342961509
>>342961631
Yeah, you dun goofed m8.
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>>342954179
MY HANDS ARE ALL MESSED UP
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>>342961768
Note I said favorite, not best.
I bet you enjoyed 64 more than MK8 at the time.

With zero arguments GTA V is better than SA in a present day point-of-view. But I will always love SA more.
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>>342961668
Speak for yourself, nigga. I played VC before 3 and enjoyed both. SA had a fucking ton of shit to do, but the ghetto stuff wasn't my thing.
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>>342961932
MK8 IS my favourite. I wouldn't have said it was the best if it wasn't.
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VC and 4 are my favourites. They felt really focused with none of the extra garbage.
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>>342959431
maybe you should play for afew more levels dumbass
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SA>VC>>IV>>>III>>>>>>>>.V
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>>342959756
LANoire is overated garbage with half of its content cut and the worst PC port in ever
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>>342955293
>can only drive boats
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>>342954039
>people actually put 3 at top
The literal definition of nostalgia goggles.
The fact that it was the first 3D one has clouded your judgement.
It objectively has the worst of everything.
It was the experiment to see if they could, and while it was a complete success, it was still overshadowed by everything that came after.
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>>342960798
It's really simple. The series is hugely popular and has always delivered until 5. People ate it up assuming nothing had changed when really these are the kind of people that 5 appeals to. >>342955442 >> and 342956410. 3 of my friends irl, one of which is my best friend, all agree GTA V is the best gta. Here's the kicker. Only one of them has played a single other gta game and that was gta 4 but they are all adamant it is the best gta. None of them finished the story either. All they ever do is play online literally playing tag with eachother, jumping out of airplanes, and taking selfies.

Also gaming has exploded in recent years so there's a whole lot more people buying vidya especially AAA mainstream shit. Game looks the best no one can argue that as it's their most recent release. Biggest map with online play and highest budget to date spent on a GTA.

There's a whole number of reasons but this >>342960878 above everything else.
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2
VC
3
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4
V
Chinatown wars
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>>342961826
>MY HANDS ARE ALL MESSED UP
>his hands look fine

What did he meme by this?
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>>342954229
that's the same shit as OP
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>>342959916
gta3 is basically gta2 in 3d, with arcade-ish gameplay elements. gta4 was ruined by realism, forced storyline/characters and poor mission/city design imo.
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GTA3SA > GTA3VC > GTA3 > the rest
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>>342954039
So close
This could have been the truth if it was
VC>3=4>SA>LCS>VCS>Chinatown Wars>1=2>London>Advance>GTA V(read saints row 5)
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SA > 4 > 5 > VC > 3
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>>342960381
my negroes
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>>342954039
4>5
all the other ones are just too old now
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>>342954039
Jesus you guys, why everyone here has such shit taste.

It is obviously:

VC=SA>LCS>VCS>3>5>4
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TBOGT>SA>V>IV>VC>TLAD>3>any 9/10 game

Niko>Tommy>Trevor>CJ>Johnny>Michael>Luis>Claude>Franklin
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>>342970830
>Claude, the completely silent protagonist with no personality, is better than Franklin
How did they fuck up Franklin so bad? He's so fucking boring and unlikeable. They seriously couldn't have made a more fucking boring character like god damn Jimmy DeSanta would've been better
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>>342954039
SA>5>4>VC>3
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>>342973007
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>>342954039
SA>TBOGT>V>IV>VC>TLAD>3>LCS>VCS

CJ>Niko>Tommy>Trevor>Luis>Claude>Michael>Franklin
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>>342955074
this
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>>342961509
>tfw didn't realize SA banshee design lifted straight from 3
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Best Maps

SA>V>IV>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VC
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You are wrong.

SA > 4 > III > VC

Haven't played V, nor IV expansions.
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