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Why'd they make him so fucking fat?
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Why'd they make him so fucking fat?
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he's supposed to represent america, anon
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>>342936005
He's the American leader
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>>342936005
The bantz
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I believe in America that's called "Anorexic".
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>>342936043
>>342936147
skinny eurofags detected.
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>>342936005
So Americans can relate.
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Not like Americans would be able to tell Taft and Roosevelt apart anyhow.
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>>342936005
It's the only way americans can relate to him
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I always thought he was a stocky build type.
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He isn't fat, he's just allergic to the bees he tried to eat.
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>>342936659
You mean fat?
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Why'd they make her so fucking white?
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>>342936005
Looks more than Taft
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>>342936753
Because she wasn't an Egyptian and was light skinned.
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>>342936753
DELETE THIS
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>>342936753
>Make Cleo white
>OMG WHITEWASHING HISTORY SHE WASNT WHITE tumblrtards
>Make Cleo brown
>OMG PC WASHING HISTORY SHE WASN'T NIGGER /pol/tards
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>>342936659
The kind that would fuck your wife and you would say 'oh tha's quite alright. What with me busy with work and not able to bong up mini Ben to please the wife, righty-o. Ah. A bushman moved in next-door.'
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>>342936838
She was Greek.
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>>342936005
He's not even that fat.
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>>342936753
Because she was actually Greek.
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Because it takes more than fat to kill a bull moose.
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>>342936753

Because she was Greek.
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>>342936867
I am Greek
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>>342936005

Seriously though, due was a soldier, hunter and athlete, he wasn't ever that fat.
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>>342936753
>Greek name that means "glory to the father" in greek
>Direct descendant of a greek general who created the ruling dynasty of egypt
>Everyone remembers her because of her pronounced greek nose, which she was so proud of that she made billions of busts and put them everywhere to remind people that she is greek

I know you're shitposting, but people who are seriously mad that she's not some arab or nigger looking baboon makes me wish they were sent to the death row.
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>>342936974
he looks more like he has that dadstrength kind of fat though.
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>>342936005
because it's a caricature you dumb americlap
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>>342936753
Because she fucking is, u nigger, she is a descendent of Alexander the great and grecque royalty.

The older egyptian dynasties were black n shiiiieeeetttt.
tutaatnkamoon wuz a dark nigga, they proved it with DNA and hair, skin ananlysis.

>>342936907 >>342937079>>342936806
>>342936838

deez are my hommie negazzz
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>>342936867
And greek were brown, like all meds.
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>>342936753
WE
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>>342936886
meiposters LEAVE
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>>342936753
That's what Egyptians look like. No matter what the WE WUZ tell you, they're not at all black. They're Middle Eastern, and comparatively light-skinned ones. Some of them even pass for white.
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>>342937754
>t. Mouzstafa
No, your kind is brown and inferior. Just like Italians, Morroccans, turks and spaniards. Using whitening cream does not make you white no matter how much you want to. Now fuck off back to ISIL
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>>342936659
OP didn't post the whole thing. His face is fucking fat but the rest of his body is more in line.
All the stranger.
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>>342936470
fat burger detected
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>>342936005
He's supposed to be caricaturized, like every other leader they've shown so far.
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>>342936005
Dr eggman
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>Just like Italians, Morroccans, turks and spaniards
>Italians ... spaniards
these two cultures are far more rich and have contributed far more to humanity and the western world then all of skandiniggers combined

in fact the "western" culture is actually southern, since its graeco-roman
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>>342943142
Or just Europe in general. Shame now that even America at it's worst has more culture than Modern Europe aka Doormattistan.
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>>342936005
memes
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>>342936005
HAMBURGERS, SON.
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>>342936005
BEAUTIFUL AT ANY SIZE EXCEPT SKINNY
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Americans getting btfo itt
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>>342936005
>18 civs at launch
>America
>Arabs
>Aztec
>China
>Egypt
>England
>France
>Germany
>Greece
>India
>Japan
>Korea
>Rome
>Russia
>Spain
I reckon these civs are more or less guaranteed to be seen at launch. Babylonia and the Mayans are also likely to show up. And probably Mali, Ethiopia or the Zulus; one or two more African civs in addition to Egypt. Persia might also be in there.
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it's a caricature
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>>342936005
>be american
>get crossbow rushed

Can't wait.
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>>342945270
>France get napoleon again.
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>>342937079
Her being greek doesn't excuse her whiteness.
Before all the slav savages moved to the Balkans, the greeks were dark skinned.

Pic related, a dark greek man with his slavic slaves, as depicted by the actual greeks.
They often painted themselves black and their slaves white.
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>>342936470
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>>342946517
>England gets a monarcunt again
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>>342946646
oh fuck that's hilarious
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>>342946735

Oh? Who would you actually want? Winston Churchill?
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>>342946517
Who knows, they might roll with Louis XIV again. I'd love it if Louis XI showed up, but that's never going to happen.

I feel like it could be a fun change of pace if less famous leaders represented the civs and the mainstays were covered in an expanded version of the usual civ profiles instead.
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>>342946838
Boris Johnson. A real leader.
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>>342946838
>the architect behind the naval disaster that was britain's attempt to beat the ottoman empire in WWI
>the same man who sacrificed ships and soldiers to keep the enigma code break secret

He is a meme. People only like him because he was a funny fatman.
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>>342946517
>spain will get Isabel II of Castille AGAIN

she was a god tier ruler we know that but,,,
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>>342946838
Margaret Thatcher the cum catcher, obviously
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>>342946838
Saint Alfred
Saint Offa
Saint Eardwulf
Afelstane the Danesbane
Henry V
Richard the Lionheart
Or, yes, even Winston Churchill.
But na, we'll have someone shit again.
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>>342946915
But without the Enigma Code they would have been at the mercy of the Nazis.

Oh wait the Nazis just bombed them non stop anyway.
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>>342946953
>she was a god tier ruler

Pretty sure it was her husband who ruled, and she was just a flag/poster.
A very important person, because she allowed for unification without war, but hardly a ruler.
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>>342936005
I dont mind him being fat, my only issue is that the dev-idiots either can't tell Teddy and Taft apart or they dont think it matters.
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>>342947012
Wasn't her husband, Ferdinand, a mega-cuck who was going to leave the Muslims in Granada alone to rape and kill Christian women all day, as they had been doing for the past so many hundred years, before Isabel and her good pal Torquemada bullied him into taking them over? Or was that someone else?
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>>342936895
>>342936907
>greece
>white
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>>342947189
Grenada was strong, the christian Iberians weren't as strong. So he left them, and was vocal about leaving them.
Then the christian Iberians grew stronger, Grenada grew weaker, so he changed his tune.

Circumstances changed it, and surely some advice, but I am very, very skeptical as to Isabel's role.
Journalists from the period simply portrayed her as a mix of the holy virgin and the stereotype for a scheming woman running the show from behind curtains. We know exactly zero of how she was actually like.
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>>342936895
>>342936907
She was a Macedonian, Macedonians were white. They didn't really intermarry with Egyptians and kept it in the family.
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>>342947012
>Pretty sure it was her husband who ruled
Nope, Fernando de Aragon was in battles but Isabella did the actual ruling and reformed a lot of shit.
That being said, i would love if they put los Reyes Catolicos together as one leader instead of just Isabela
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>>342947301
But what about the story where the Emir of Granada had agreed to become the King of Spain's vassal and Torquemada threw silver at him in court and called him a Judas.
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>>342947012
not really, they decided to rule separate but together, Isabel decided in Castille and Fernando ruled in Aragon

this wasn't always the norm of course, but Isabel wasnt just a queen who didn't say anything, in fact, she was the one that was interested in Colon, and who gave him permission to make the travel to the Indias

they also decided together many things against France or the Moors
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>>342947313
>She was a Macedonian
so greek then
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>>342947373
Granada had been a vassal of Castile for a long time, it was the only thing keeping them alive, once Castile started the civil war and the peninsula was weaker they decided fuck it and stopped giving tribute

that's when shit hit the fan
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>>342947517
Macedonians (and Illyrians) were white Greeks.
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>>342946984

I thought you didn't want monarcunts?

The fact is that Cvilization doesn't use recent leaders, and since England become democratic very few people actually got fame and changed the world. The only big famous English democratic leader I can think from tongue was Churchill, most because it's impossible to study the greatest war in the story of the world without his persona.
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>>342946838

Nigel Farage
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>>342947682
Women are monarcunts. Not men. Men don't have cunts. Cromwell would be fine, though
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>>342947884
And here we thought you disliked the idea of having a monarch, you were just unironically misogynist instead.
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>>342936005
He was a pretty hefty guy IRL anon. What matters is that his chest and shoulders are broader than his gut instead of being pear shaped.
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>>342947914
It's not my fault England's queens are all shit. I'd have been fine if we had a horsefucking Catherine or Isabel 2 among them, but not one of our Queens was ever any good.
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>>342936005
>implying there's anything wrong with being that fat
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>>342936005
I heard an interview during E3 where they said they wanted more unique things for the Civs, generic ones that reflect the Civilization as a whole and some that represent the leader specifically. I think they mentioned the Chinese dude got a bonus for classic wonders or something. Think this might imply multiple leaders at some point? Possibly added in expo or jew-DLC?
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>>342936005
was just watching a documentary about him last night. apparently he ate a dozen eggs every morning and weighed over 300lbs. history books describe him as "larger than life"
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>>342948289
And yet the one thing I'll remember him for is trying, and failing, to turn the USA into an empire and expand into Asia and South America.
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>>342948334
you sound upset about something. I'll remember him for designating the most land in the United States for national parks. Over 100 million acres including Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon.
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>>342936005
To symbolize the profit that Firaxis raked in on their shitty trainwreck Beyond Earth
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>>342948769
You like him because he made it illegal to develop large swats of land?
The guy is a failed imperialist and nothing more, tbqh. Overrated because of his personal Dudebro Strongman McTough machismo moments.
Probably did more for the country as a soldier than he ever did as a leader.
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>>342947884
Monarcocks?
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>>342948987
Yeah. And people who support monarchy are monarcucks.
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>>342947884

Ah I see. Still, Queen Elizabeth is far more popular than all those guys. Only Richard, and I only remember him for wrecking with Saladin.
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>>342937079
>but people who are seriously mad that she's not some arab or nigger looking baboon
I haven't seen anybody actually get mad because of them depicting Cleopatra as light skinned, just people shitposting.
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>>342949112
But Alfred the Great is the greatest of all English Kings, and Afelstane kicked the Vikings out, then because he fucking hated them so much he went to France and kicked them out of Brittany. And Henry V is the one who won Agincourt. I don't even know what Elizabeth did. Like, she was the skank who didn't get married and claimed credit for a storm taking out the Spanish armada. Shit tier Queen, desu.
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>>342936005
>Teddy and Qin Shi Huang depicted as fatties
>Hojo Tokimune is based off an actor instead
God damn Firaxis are such weebs
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>>342949302
>Teddy
>not fat
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>>342949353
not implied
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>>342949302
They are just stupid, they modeled Eric XIV and called him Gustavus Adolphus for some fucking reason.
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Do you think they're go with new leaders for every Civ? I can't imagine them replacing Gandhi with anyone.
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>>342950754
Qin Shi Huangdi and Cleopatra have both appeared in the series before. Or did you just mean that none of the leaders from V would show up in VI?
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>>342950754
no. montezuma is definitely going to be in, gandhi is probably similar.
i'd also be surprised if they replaced isabella, catherine and elizabeth. maybe one might get switched out, but typically firaxis tries to make sure there's a decent amount of female leaders, and those are really obvious choices.
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>>342945270
Sometimes there are surprises, Spain wasn't in the base game for Civ 5.
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>>342946628
But that's wrong. The person pouring wine in is just a woman. Women being pure white and men being jet black was a motif in ancient greek art.
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>>342950754
Gandhi is already confirmed.
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>>342951030
If they had any guts they'd use Ahuitzotl instead of Montezuma.
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>>342936005
Teddy Roosevelt shouldn't be fat because he exercised and lifted weights regularly.
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>>342950754
they better not
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>>342946628
WE
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>>342953218
They could put in Ashoka or something
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>>342950754
Civ 2 had Indira of all people, mostly because they had both male and female options for all civs. Through they had to dig a hole through the bottom of the barrel in some cases
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>>342950754
They could reintroduce multiple leaders.
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>>342948870
>failed imperialist

John Hay's state department would like a word with you.

Not sure why you're so mad about him, regardless. I don't see a picture of Ulysses S. Grant and immediately blurt out "UGH WHAT A FUCKING CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION."
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>>342936005
I'm honestly convinced the modeler thought he was supposed to make Taft and then when he realized it was supposed to be Teddy, he threw on glasses and called it a day. Disgusting
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>>342945270
I think they said there would be a handful completely brand new ones.
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>>342949302
Why'd they pick him over the likes of Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, Tokugawa.
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>>342951258
Or you can consider the simpler, easier explanation - pre roman ancient greeks were black. That would be a good reason why they'd paint themselves as black.
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>>342946984
Henry V would be the greatest thing they've ever done.
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>>342955109
They wanted to move away form the Warring States period.
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>>342948870
What a bizarre combination of grievances. You call him an imperialist (newsflash murrica's been an empire for a long ass time) but castigate him preventing, what, oil exploration in yellowstone?

Everybody's politics leads to a weird combination of held opinions but boy does being american do a number on people's ability to think logically.
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>>342955539
America is a democratic republic, not an empire.
America has never, ever tried to conquer other people. It was always a force for liberty and freedom.
This guy is the only American imperialist leader in history.
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>>342955706
>America has never, ever tried to conquer other people.
That's one big can of worms you just opened.
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>>342955839
Name one case of American imperialism or attempts to conquer other people.
Its always liberating them from tyrants, never conquering them.
The USA is the one single good guy in world geopolitics. Always have been, always will be. Except for a short period under this thread's hero Ted Roosevelt.
So yes, you bet I am mad that he got chosen to represent the USA. He is the most unamerican president.
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>>342955985
>Its always liberating them from tyrants
Yeah, like in Panama during Operation Just Cause. Either you're a troll or you're wilfully ignorant.
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>>342936538
>Comparing Taft to Roosevelt.
Watch it buddy. I have a bust of Theodore Roosevelt next to my humidor. He's my favorite president. The bust of Andrew Jackson is next to him. They both are my favorite presidents.
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>>342955985
>What is Cuba?
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>>342955706
>American education
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>>342955985
>most unamerican

Shut the fuck up
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Considering this seems like the right place to ask it. Is the artwork of the leader diplomacy screens in Civ 6 a placeholder? It better be because that was the part of Civ 5 I liked the most.
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>>342936659
Roosevelt as a lifelong hunter and boxer
He was pretty athletic, it wasn't until the very end of his life where he started gaining weight, of course he was already dying at that point.
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So who do you want as Civ/leaders, and not the shit that's obviously in?

They've said they wanted some more South American/African stuff
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>>342956225
People have been speculating it's a static image background because the civs will have multiple leaders.
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>>342955985

are you gonna live your whole life with blinders on your eye lids?
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>>342956117
>Yeah, like in Panama during Operation Just Cause.
Yeah. A country in civil war, between the people and the military dictatorship.
America moves in to help the people and liberate them.
Educate yourself.

>>342956134
>What is Cuba?
USA never invaded Cuba. Not even when the USSR was trying to put nuclear weapons there to threaten America.
Educate yourself.
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>>342956336

he needs to take his blinders to fucking /pol/
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>>342955985
>when the propaganda hit you just right
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>>342955985
>believed firmly in american exceptionalism

>wove around america's naval power in front of japan and russia to coerce them to cease war
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>>342956178
considering the pathetic climate we live in now, this actually is unamerican.
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>>342955706
Just like how they freed the people of Mexico from the grips of tyranny, right?
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>>342956479
There is still hope anon
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>>342956178
>he said that at a moment in history when a large portion of the american population were geramns, speaking german, publishing german newspapers in german in the german parts of germ-... America

A quote for its time, not for today.
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>>342956580
Are you retarded or have you just turned a blind eye to all the Mexicans everywhere?
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>>342956524
Americans in Texas being mistreated, USA moves in to help them, situation devolves into war.
Completely justified.
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>>342955985
Contras, Philippines, Hawaii, Iraq, and so on? Are you that dense or ignorant?
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>>342956448
And he's the most based President we've had. He fought against the monopolies unlike every President after him, he held the Will of the American people as important and SERVED THEM. There is a reason he is beloved, but what do I know I just have a history degree and wrote papers on him.
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>>342956345
>USA never invaded Cuba


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
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>>342956797
Freedom fighters supported by the USA in their fight for liberty, and wars to depose dictators and free the people.
Where are the invasions and occupations? Where is USA claiming land to add to its bulk?

You have no argument. America is and always has been a force for good, and only flexes its muscles to help the people against tyrants. Educate yourself. You have the Internet, a free media to access free information. No need to thank us, either. Its yours. Enjoy.
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>>342947836
This.
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>>342956345
>what is bay of pigs
Stop man. As your countryman I'm begging, stop making us look dumber.
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>>342936761

THICCCC
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>>342955706
LOL

Teddy probably isn't even in the top 3 for attempted imperialism. Fucking do some research and learn what exactly we did to South America. His intentions were fucking noble compared to some of the other shit we did.
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>>342956178
Teddy lived before mutlicultural thought police and insane political correctness, he also tried to run for a third term, so yeah he was in a way un-American.
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>>342957019
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

[x] Dictator supported by USSR
[x] Freedom fighters supported by USA
[_] Actual USA invasion

Where is your argument?
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>>342956825
How do you feel about chester arthur?
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Reminder Nazi Germany weren't the bad guys, they were liberating Europe from Colonial Empires and USA supported said Empires.
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Because he's filled with FREEDOM
Also because Teddy is usually depicted as pretty plump. He's not that fat in real life, but it's a characterization of him.

They made a great choice with Teddy though. Probably one of the best 5 presidents desu.
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>>342957198
see >>342957243
Stop getting brainwashed by anti-American shills.
Its easier than ever to educate yourself on these matters.
There was no invasion by the USA of Cuba. There was a Cuban dictator that everyone hated, and a group of freedom fighters that the USA supported.
If anything, Cuba is a good case that the USA should've acted stronger, tougher, and helped with air and navy support.
It was because of people like you that the government didn't get more involved, even though it should have. Instead of liberating the Cuban people, we let them down on that day, left them to fight the tyrant alone, just throwing money at them.
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>>342938306
>>>/pol/
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>>342957282
Indifferent...
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>>342938306
>Italians
>not white
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>>342957406
>imperialist warmonger
>top 5 AMERICAN president

Honestly, I don't know why I even bother. You are all lost.
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>>342957243
>Units involved: CIA
>8 B-26 bombers taking off and returning to Florida
That sounds a lot like military involvement to me
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>>342955129
If that's true, why would all the pre roman ancient greek women be painted white?
Why would the hairstyles they had as greeks be virtually impossible for black men to have?
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>>342957512
Like pretty much everyone else. Poor arthur, can't get a break.
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>>342957431
>It was because of people like you that the government didn't get more involved

They didn't get involved because a global nuclear war is pretty bad for business.
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>>342957431
>minority wants the government overthrown militarily
>this makes it OK
So I guess if the Ohio militia tries to kill the president it's cool with you?
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>>342957557
Found the EU libcuck
How does it feel to know that the Brits are free now and you're still enslaved to a totalitarian government that is creating an army to try and start WWIII?
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>>342949302

Wait, why are the fucking Hojo in the game?!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>342957678
>calling me European even though I am strongly pro-America and anti-Europe
>calling me EU supporter after I bash imperialism
>calling me liberal after I support intervention to free people even if it means disregarding national sovereignty
>calling me a cuck because i am better educated than him

You are delusional. God help you.
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>>342957087
So literally exactly what happened in Panama?
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>>342957557
The same thing can be said Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama. He was a better President and MAN than them.
Also
>Using charged language
>Using modern morals and ethics to view history.
>Looking at history through a modern/biased lens
F- See me after class, anon
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>>342957431
Buddy I'm not arguing the level of force that should have been employed, but saying that there was no invasion just because war was never declared despite clear presence of military units is asinine.
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>>342957668
What's the context? Is the President directly threatening the Constitution? If so, then yes
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>>342938306
w-what's whitening cream?
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>>342958061
https://youtu.be/0c5-J59it7Q
Michael Jackson knew, and Lil' Kim knows what it is.
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I wish every Civ would have two leaders. One for BC and one for AD.
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>>342955505
>move away from the warring states
>still pick a samurai leader
>stood against mongols
>contributed to the flourish of zen

If they want to get away from the warring states, why not Emperor Jimmu?
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>>342958248
what happens if a white person does it?
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>>342957865
>Calling Teddy a bad president
He was one of the few everyday Americans that managed to become president.
He made great trade deals
He knew that while the market was a good thing, monopolies could be a huge threat to both the free market and a free people, so he enacted very reasonable anti trust laws which curbed the supercorps at the time
He saved our national parks
He had balls of steel
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>>342958382
something like pic related
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>>342958382
They get Revitiligo, and transmogrify into Uncle Ruckus. It would be extremely painful.
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>>342936005
Cannot have him look like this.
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>>342957223
>he also tried to run for a third term
because that was allowed.

Term Limits were not put in place until after FDR, who sat for 4 terms
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>>342958334
not real
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>>342958396
Breaking the free market and making some land off limits government only land that can never be worked or developed, on top of being a (failed) imperialist.

A true loser.
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>>342959007
Disney will rip them appart from using Wolverine
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>>342959007
Maybe because that picture is from 30 years before he was president?
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>>342955985
>Name one case of American imperialism or attempts to conquer other people.

How do you think we expanded beyond thirteen states, anon?
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>>342961147
>How do you think we expanded beyond thirteen states, anon?

Exploiting naivete

Oh and biological warfare
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>>342961147
>How do you think we expanded beyond thirteen states, anon?
By giving treeniggers shiny beads and killing the ones that didn't want shiny beads
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>>342956132
>Andrew Jackson
Good taste.
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>>342961372
>treeniggers

t. butthurt redneck who cant hunt on tribal land
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>>342961697
Sure whatever burgernigger
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>>342961147
Buying land from poor people, for money.
Winning defensive wars against raiders.

How do YOU think we expanded?
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>>342961367
Biological warfare against natives is a liberal meme. Colonists didn't know shit about diseases that could kill Indians like that, it just happened beyond their control. It was never intentional.
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>>342938465
That's just fucking offensive. Teddy had a paunch but he never had a particularly fat face. He looks like some a knock off generic president.
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>>342951258
>that rationalization

You're a racist. Admit it.
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>>342946735
>actually being republican
kindly fuck off you cromwell-loving twat
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>>342946909
This man gets it
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>>342954689
It's far too big of an undertaking, but I'd love to see the civilization change when ideologies become part of the game, leaders included.

Take Russia for example
Stalin - Order
Catherine - Autocracy
Peter the Great - Freedom
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>>342961921

>person dies of smallpox
>even a retard knows what "contagious" means
>whipe his face in blankets
>give blankets to people you don't like

People were wiping contagious shit and giving it as gifts at least as far back as the 15th century, pic related
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>>342961921

>"Out of our regard to them we gave them two Blankets and an Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect."
>William Trent, William Trent's Journal at Fort Pitt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics#Disease_as_a_weapon_against_Native_Americans
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>>342946984
>all those saxons and a fucking french

The only real option on your list is Henry V, an actual english person.

This is why we won't ever get Churchill unless the UK is a civ instead of just England.
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>>342962418
It's because up until the 1800s, people generally believed smell = disease, and smell would be relatively hard to detect because pretty much everyone stank like shit back then.
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>>342962624
>trying to look at history through the lens of a 21 century nationalistic kiddie

Whoa.
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>>342961921

>General Amherst, July 8: "Could it not be contrived to Send the Small Pox among those Disaffected Tribes of Indians? We must, on this occasion, Use Every Stratagem in our power to Reduce them."
>Colonel Bouquet, July 13: "I will try to inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself."
>Amherst, July 16: "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execreble Race."
>Bouquet, July 19: "all your Directions will be observed."
>Papers of Col. Henry Bouquet, ed. Stevens and Kent, ser. 21634, p. 161.
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>>342962768
>21st kids are nationalists
Mmmhmm sure
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>>342962768
Why is Boudica in Civ 5 as the leader of the Celts instead of Queen of England then?

Because they're a completely different culture even though they both lived at the same place, not exactly rocket science.
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>>342961618
If it wasn't for bitches crying over the Trail of Tears Jackson would easily be among top 3 favorite american presidents.
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>>342963103
>trying to make DLC money grabbing political to suit your viewpoint

premium lel
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>>342963103
>Boudica
>"English" Iceni native
>Speaks Welsh
>Unique warrior and capital are Scottish
>Unique building and second city is Irish
What the fuck were they thinking?
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If Byzantium gets in they better damn well use Alexios Komnenos
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>>342963103
>completely different culture

Didn't the saxons come and rape all the celtic culture out of the celts?

I've been wondering just what turned the Celts from
>paint ourselves in hallucinogens and terrify the romans
to
>earls and kingdoms and jesus christ

I mean, the romans left right? How did christianity gain such a huge foothold in that country if its primary architect nation wasn't even there?

Of course, I freely admit to knowing nothing about England, so yeah
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>>342963738
England had several waves of culture and civilization raped into it by invaders.
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>>342962347
It might have been a massive undertaking in V, but in VI they've clearly downgraded the leaders (the pseudo-3D environments have been entirely removed). This combined with the fact that they're still (and even moreso) tying abilities to leaders makes me think they're planning it (at least as DLC).
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>>342936753
Why'd they pick Cleopatra and not Nefertiti is the better question
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>>342936005
>Russian leader isn't future russian president Natalia Poklonskaya

Fucking dropped
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>>342963878

Most people know who Cleo is.
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>>342963892
Maybe this time the modders can get some 3D models ready too.
Shouldn't cost more than $20 to get a russian girl to record the lines also.
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>>342963942
You say that, and yet hasn't Japan got a literally who leader this time around?
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>>342963858
Do you not remember that Civ5 gave us fucking static images on launch for leaders? Civ6 is doing a pretty good job of not gutting all previous features on release unlike other Civ games
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>>342963738
Britain was already chritianized by the 4th-6th century when the saxons, anglos and jutes arrived. And the remnants of the romano-british culture migrated westward and created small kingdoms in what would become Wales.
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>>342963738
Britain has one big history of cultures being destroyed by invaders

You had the Celts then came the Romans then Saxons finally ending with the Danes and later Normans.
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>>342957243
>>342957431

>We never invaded Iraq because that was done by some dudes who just happened to be in the employ of US armed forces, not by the USA itself
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>>342964348
Iraq was liberated, not conquered.
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>>342946628
>Before all the slav savages moved to the Balkans, the greeks were dark skinned.
Greeks have absolutely no slavic admixture or paternal dna. And even with the inclusion of millions of anatolian greeks from byzantine times they still look whiter than your average camel jockey or turk.
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>>342964478
>(((liberated)))

also please remind me of the reasons you (((liberated))) libya.
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>>342964478
Liberated from stability and infrastructure
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>>342964119
The real question here is why didn't they go with motherfucking Meiji, he would be a great leader for civ.
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>>342946770
newfag
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>>342957594
WE
WUZ
KANGS
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>>342964478
Yeah, liberated.
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>>342964478
I think this might be the funniest post of the day
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>>342964619
>>342964635
Libya and Iraq were both ruled by despot tyrant dictators, and their people didn't want them.
USA moved in, helped restore freedom. Should've stayed to train the police force more, but butthurt Europeans started talking about evil imperialism, and liberals back home started rocking the government.
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>>342964619
Liberating the UN from having to hear Gaddafi crap on about nothing again.
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>>342964667
This. Meiji was the last leader they could have had who didn't ultimately succumb to failure (Hideyoshi) or is too controversial a figure to be used (Hirohito)
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>>342964802
>>342964635
>>342964619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCns0ejQbI

Saddam Hussein was a tyrant who imprisoned a nation. USA liberated it.
Muammar Gaddafi was a tyrant who imprisoned a nation. USA liberated it.
Bashar al-Assad is a tyrant who imprisoned a nation. USA is working to liberate it.

USA is a force for freedom and liberty, worldwide. It is our burden to help people attain freedom from their jailers. Stay butthurt.
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>>342965120
>posting the worst Hitchens brother
dropped
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>the modeler confused Taft and Roosevelt
JUST
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>>342964667
>Meiji

Because he ended the Samurai era.
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>>342965120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGQaH3-LK54
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>>342955706
>America has never, ever tried to conquer other people
I guess the Native Americans don't count? I mean, nearly committing genocide against them to annex their lands doesn't count as conquering right?
Oh and I guess when they invaded Canada to try and annex their lands doesn't count as conquering right?
This is why the rest of the world laughs at you America. This is why Trump actually got a chance and wasn't laughed away. This is why your Empire is failing and you will soon lose all your prestige and coercive power. Look at this Anon as an example of everything that is wrong with your country.
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>>342965120

Your post couldn't be more satire if it had weeping eagles and a picture of the WTC burning
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Well being fat usually meant that you were well-fed and probably rich. Though that's probably not why they did it
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>>342965120
>this whole post
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>>342965375
I posted a peer reviewed book, and a philosopher giving a short live lecture on it.
You posted no argument, yet posture as if you have won?

Reconsider.
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>>342965120
>It is our burden
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>>342965443
how do we justify your fat ass then?
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>>342963154
>forgetting about the Panic of 1837
Jackson's a meme president.
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>>342965534

I am posting that I find your satire and bait to be of quality such that it is obvious.

As is your rebuttal.

No citation is needed sir, your work stands for itself on that account.
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>>342965120
Iraq, Syria and Libya are now all shitholes full of rebels

haha good work america
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>>342936761
Taft you FUCK. You bought your clothes at the Portly Gentlemen's Discount Clothing store. Ya cheapskate!

I know it 'cause I SOLD IT TO YOU.
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>>342965682
The fact that it is no longer relevant or true?
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>>342936005
>bought my first gaming PC 2 months ago
>bought it specifically to play Civilization: Beyond Earth
>Spent $46 as I recall
>Now I'm beginning to be kind of underwhelmed by the game
>Steam Summer Sale is listing CivBE as $16

crap.

I had really high hopes for Beyond Earth but I'm beginning to think that it's a dead project. I understand that Firaxis usually sells it as a complete edition when it is complete, but with the work going into Civ 6, I just don't see there being another DLC. Which is all the more disappointing because I feel like one more addition might be all that's needed to provide true balance to the game.

Like, for once I'd like to actually spend my time during a game developing infrastructure and trade routes and growing population and maybe even produce a wonder in the process of raising an army. Instead, I'm essentially forced to forward settle god-awful locations to control resources, and then quite literally zerg rush space Nigeria or space Mexico because they've built the beacon. Like FFS, could you make the victory conditions difficult to attain at least? Or maybe at least nerf the contact victory?
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>>342963892
A shame
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>>342964120
>Do you not remember that Civ5 gave us fucking static images on launch for leaders?
No? If on launch you could only get static images even with the leaderscreen settings on high then that was a glitch.
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>>342949925
Gotta wonder how they messed that up.
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>>342965807
Maybe next time don't protest the war before its over and we won't hastily leave before police is trained and bases constructed to keep things proper.

Alone against the world, this is as good as it gets.They are free and will have the chance to rebuild.
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>>342966063
Turn off the victories like contact if you're more interested in taking your time.
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>>342966170
I just want to get animated backgrounds for Civ 6. That is honestly the part I liked most about Civ 5.
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>>342963892
Is she even russian? Isnt she ukrainian? And she isn't in charge of Russia, she is like a small town mayor or something.
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