What are some games with good exploration?
>>342918831
I just picked up Subnautica, pretty fun so far.
>>342918831
I played Fallout 4 for like 30 mins and I'm bored.
Should I start modding already?
>>342919841
just drop it
refund if possible
it doesnt get better
>>342918930
Recently dropped Subnautica because of the anti-gun hippy liberal faggot not adding ANY weaponry to the gross sea monsters trying to kill you. Most retarded logic to not add any weapons to your game.
>>342918831
Metroid Prime
>>342918831
Fallout New Vegas
>>342918831
>bandicam
What year is this?
Yume Nikki
>>342921347
Is that why he didn't?
![morrowind_hiking_by_greyannis-d6ixpe6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TBH2aDt.jpg "morrowind_hiking_by_greyannis-d6ixpe6[1].jpg")
>>342918831
Morrowind. Hand-placed artifacts actually reward you for exploring places you'd think would be empty, like caves and huts.
>>342922648
Abandoning this was the worst thing about Oblivion next to level scaling. Random loot is never satisfying.
>>342918831
fallout 4 is not one of them of course.
>>342923641
I don't even like bethesda's fallout games, I just play them to see how they fuck up simple concepts.
Like items not falling through furniture and the floor.
>>342924719
Every fucking time.
These are fun.
>>342924902
this bugs me more than the bugsloldo. Putting the ejection port and bolts on the wrong side of the gun is such a bad design choice
Jesus Merciful, I can't believe I almost fell for Todd's lies. I mean with all it's flaws I loved skyrim and actually managed to enjoy F3 to a certain point, but this...
This is a fucking disgrace, how the fuck did they get away with this is beyond me.
But it's hilarious, keep posting 'em senpai
>>342921783
Fallout: Neverland
So have mods already fixed this horrendous shit like every Bethesda game?
>>342925639
>>342926025
Not all of it. And all the problems inherent to their shitty engine can't be modded out.
>>342918930
I've recently got a Vive for work; Didn't give much of a shit about FPS especially Fallout4 but that's been amazing in VR so far as it doesnt work with games I usually play.
Im now looking for some 'official' titles to demo, hows Subnautica? I've also noticed that Vive and Occulus are independent icons and Subnautica is only tagged Occulus. I was under the impression the DRM lockout on hardware had been either bypassed or removed. Is there any reason why I cant use Occulus titles with the Vive? The software architecture was the same for both I thought
>>342926025
nope
>>342926269
>>342926443
Well shit.
I'm replaying Arcanum right now and I'll probably replay Fallout 2 afterwards.
Why can't I get good RPGs like those anymore?
How empty does Fallout 4 feel on a scale from Morrowind to Skyrim?
>>342926498
>How empty does Fallout 4 feel on a scale from Morrowind to Skyrim?
you already know the answer to that
>Never had a single bug shown in this thread
>Worst glitch was a companion disappearing until I fast traveled
The only real bad part of the game is zero endgame content
the DLC was a rubbish ripoff of Point Lookout with not even half the charm or atmosphere
>>342922640
pretty much. the development started after the sandy shooting so he figured he'd design it without weapons.
Doesnt mean he shouldn't give better ways of dealing with the giant monsters trying to kill you, even if its just more ways to disable them
i love getting the opportunity to post this.
>>342926583
Maybe I'd be better off if I'd never played those good games so I could enjoy the industry of today.
They're even trying to take roguelikes from me by calling every shitty pixel indie game that has some random generation a roguelike.
>>342926598
I'd say its on par with Skyrim
>Slightly larger than nuke town Main city
>5-10 ish enemies respawning in a bunch of random little forts
>Not a while lot in-between, barely any nice secrets like Fallout 3
>Barely any unique weapons now that you actually care about getting, random drops will eventually give you one of the 'game breaking' modifiers and nothing else matters after that
>no endgame content, no bonus or challenge areas. Game is over after the last quest, DLC adds about three hours of content and is laughably expensive
If you've played the Witcher 3 you'll find this game extremely lazy
>>342926609
There are torpedoes that can kill the large monsters........................ .
>>342924237
sure you do, faggot.
Fallout 4 is, hands fucking down, my most disappointing game. I wasn't even let down by Skyrim as badly as I was let down by FO4.
It's awful in every single way.
>Hey we improved the combat xD
>IF I WANTED A FUCKING FPS I'D BE PLAYING A FPS, WHERE'D MY RPG GO???
>>342926829
>Fallout 4 on par with skyrim
KEK. I'm playing through Skyrim for the second time and it's SO MUCH better than F4.I've never played Oblivion, I should probably give it a go.
>>342926025
>>342926952
>>Hey we improved the combat xD
wat, how
It's exactly the same as 3/NV except now there is a grenade button and VATS is slowmo now
>>342926498
It's much, much worse than Skyrim.
>>342926025
they never did
>>342918831
Gothic 2, Risen, Witcher 3.
>>342918831
I look at steam sometimes and I have absolutely no clue how I played FO4 for like 36 hours. It's so fucking god damn boring.
>>342927074
not him but
they brought back damage types to an extent
gave more uses to Action Points with sprinting and slow-mo aiming
AI now "properly" hides behind stuff and around can peek out of corners
Don't know why they didn't bring shields in the game. Everyone has guns but wearing trash somehow protects against it.
>>342927021
That a weird billiard ball.
>>342926649
It saddens me, it really does. I hate playing Beth games and immediately thinking about how everything could have been better. They make such cool worlds and then do nothing with them
>>342925209
>shoot barrel
>it explore
>>342927008
been a while since i played Skyrim, but I remember getting bored extremely fast and quit after my stupid melee brawling ork character become the archmage in about an hour.
I remember it having the same combat mechanics as Terraria too which just isnt interesting when you're doing it all game (click left, sometimes click right, block if you feel like it)
I truly knew FO4 was a shit game when I couldn't even put items on shelves in my settlements. Forget the frustrating walls/floors not aligning properly, the fact that they have shelving units/tables but don't let you put ANYTHING on them just shows how lazily they put the game together.
>>342927327
it's literally a polished turd
pic related
>>342927567
It's funny, because the last dlc added proper display cases and weapon stands, but they don't work, stuff still falls through them.
>>342927567
you can still drop the items and place them
theres also mods that expand and fix all the building issues
/v/, have mods made FO4 bearable? I finished the game at about a 80-85% completion rate when it first came out but my HDD crashed so I lost my save. I'm bored as fuck while I'm waiting on Legion to come out so I'm considering doing a replay with mods.Yes it's 2016 and I still play WoW
>>342926872
>............................. .
Are you 13?
>>342926025
Mod quality is the worst of any Bethesda game to date, it'll never match NV at this rate, let alone any of the Elder Scrolls games modding scenes
What game characters can defeat TooT HowoH?
>>342927827
Did they fix the lights sometimes not turning on? Or turning on but not emitting any actual light?
>>342926285
>>342926598
>>342926829
>>342927480
>>342927604
>>342927827
Alright you fucking homo what mods
>make f4 so bad that people remember skyrim fondly
>release skyrim remastered (essentially just a nextgen port) for 60USD
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>342927327
Lol
>>342928123
+ ENB
>>342928150
>nextgen
>still 30fps
Sounds about right.
>>342928279
what? i thought it was 60fps/1080 instead of 30fps/720
lmao
maybe it won't have 5 minute load times like ps3
>>342928279
Fuck off, TotalBiscuit
>>342928447
It's 1080p/30fps.
The human eye can't see above 24fps anyway, they're just wasting 3 per eye.
>>342927953
Fuck.
I think that speaks to the quality of the base game more than anything else then.
>>342928506
This is the kind of retard that keeps bethesda afloat, and the reason they don't even have to try to make a decent game anymore.
>>342928632
To be fair, 4s modding scene has pretty much imploded because of the console mod shitfest
>game actually looks pretty good with an ENB/Reshade and some texture mods thrown in
>shooting is an improvement over 3/NV
>animations improved overall
>settlements are kinda addicting even if they did rely far too much on it and skimped on all else
>better lighting
but
>they cut back on weapon/armor diversity
>that fucking dialogue wheel
>those fucking weapon designs
>the same problem 3 had where you could kill everything in the map and do every quest within a week and it's just an empty sandbox now
>quests are still shit like 3's
>no skills/traits
God damnit they only took a couple cues from New Vegas for this game. There was so much potential but they squandered it. They took ten steps forward, but 20 steps back; and they'll keep doing it with every game of theirs.
Aurora
>shaft diehard fans to cater to normies
a tale as old as time
>>342928737
>console mod
What happened?
Are they porting those steam-quality mods to consoles and they're crying because all the actually good mods require script extenders and such?
>>342922095
looooool
>it just works
>>342928831
>Ok RPG
>Ok Gameplay
>Ok Graphics
Bethesda: Choose one. mods will fix it
>>342929024
And also because the ones that don't need anything wouldn't run on a console that already can barely run the game at silky smooth 24fps.
>>342928916
And Space Engine.
>>342918831
Inquisitor.
>>342929024
>Mfw mods on console will inevitably brick systems and upset children
>mfw they'll be removed or so heavily restricted it wont be worth developing for
Will the normie mobile console market be the end of good vidya?
>>342929065
Considering they'll probably keep using the same shit engine beyond trump's second term, ok gameplay and ok graphics are out of the question.
>>342929153
You mean that diablo-clone, well more like Divinity-clone?
I've got that in my Steam it seems from a few years back, is itfun?
Breath of The Wild
>>342929217
why would a mod "inevitably brick systems"
explain the mechanism by which this would happen.
>>342927008
If you can handle the shit combat, Oblivion has some good quests. I've been thinking about replaying it, partly to see if it's as good as I remember.
>>342929356
Never underestimate the stupidity of of the average consolebro.
>>342929439
What? that doesn't make any sense.
How are mods going to "inevitably" brick systems. Has nothing to do with anyone's intelligence. I want you to explain by what mechanism a mod can brick a system
>>342929415
you can make it look decent enough with mods
quests are still as entertaining as ever
yes combat sucks
leveling system and leveled enemy spawns are still lame, but mods exist
>>342929065
>mods will fix it
>>342929356
Ive been bluescreened by mods, and thats on the platform the mod was made on and for. Can you imagine what will happen when a whole catalogue of mods are ported to lower end hardware? The shit worth anything requires script injection/extending, ram enabling etc and kiddies aren't going to know or probably even have the option of optimising.
I doubt consoles will ever get the same HD texture, lighting, ENB etc as PC but there's still plenty that will probably make the game unplayable. I drop from 60 to 35FPS in extremely busy parts with mods, console barely makes 24FPS at reduced resolution and massively reduced visual quality.
>>342929784
Too bad that it can't actually fix how shitty the options are. But it's good not having to wonder what each option actually says.
>>342929784
>a voiced protag won't impact the complexity of branched dialogue they said
>>342924902
What gun is that?
>>342921783
Goddamn Bethesda needs to get a new engine.
>>342929784
>>342929940
they already admitted this sucks. todd himself.
>>342929512
Depends what Bethesda allows the modification to access, if its anything like PC theres plenty of potential for mods to interact causing crash loops, registry errors, bluescreens. Its why everyone uses a mod manager and so much times goes into ensuring cross compatibility.
Console owners dont know shit about this, they'll install every mod expecting it all to work, and I can guarantee they wont. Bethesda cant even get their vanilla games to be stable most of the time, especially on the limitations of console.
>>342921347
>i wont play a game if i don't agree with someone's politics
lmao grow up kid
>>342929784
Of all things wrong with FO4, the dialogue system saddens me the most.
Who thought it would be a good idea to have every conversation end in yes/yes/yes/yes? It's lazy and disappointing
>>342929830
>Ive been bluescreened by mods,
explain how a mod caused the blue screen.
> ram enabling etc
? why would that apply to consoles?
>I doubt consoles will ever get the same HD texture, lighting, ENB et
why would you anyone think they would? you'd have to completely lack any understanding about the conversation to think consoles would get those things
you don't seem to get it and are retarded. the point of mods, for the vast majority of users, is to add content to the game, not fucking jerk off over the graphics. retard.
>>342930034
>f its anything like PC theres plenty of potential for mods to interact causing crash loops, registry errors, bluescreens
You haven't explained any way in which these things would happen whatsoever, you're just saying they can happen. How do mods cause these things?
>Console owners dont know shit about this, they'll install every mod expecting it all to work, and I can guarantee they wont.
How stupid and ignorant do you have to be to not understand that the mods will be packaged in a framework that makes them easier to use and controls how they interact? this isn't even much work to implement.
You're just stupidly, ignorantly wanting things to fail because it's not PC and you have no idea whatosever what yuo're talking about with mods causing bluescreens etc.
/v/ is full of this shit lately, people just spout whatever ignorant shit and then continue rambling on when called on it. you don't have the slightest fucking clue
>>342930138
>add content to the game
Sorry to disappoint my man but graphics and gameplay are the only mods worth anything, there is no new content, unless you consider the mods that add workshop items to be content because I got over playing dollhouse fast
>>342930078
you literally can't do it with a voiced protag?
you want 4 tailored responses?
and then 4 responses from the bot?
impossible
the only way you can do it is have multiple responses that lead to the same conclusion like witcher 3
>tfw remembering dragon age origins with its' 5 choice dialogue trees all leading to different outcomes
>>342930034
how can a mod cause registry errors? mods can't access the registry.
how can a mod cause "crash loops"? what is a crash loop when one executable is involved?
>>342930138
>>342930323
If you expect it to be shit then what are you arguing about, enjoy console modding friends!
>>342929985
gonna need a source for that
>>342930462
then go find it i guess? /v/ is a no spoonfeeding board
>>342929985
Don't be a Todd, and provide source
>>342930553
>>342930545
gee if there was only a big video game event recently maybe he said something there
>>342930069
>won't play a game that has been affected by the creator's political views.
Seems pretty reasonable.
>>342930138
>>342930323
Delusional consolefriends at it again
Not the same guy but changing CPU priority for Fallout 4 fucked with the overclocking on my GTX980 and gave me bluescreens for whatever reason. I had several crashing issues with trying to fix godrays without the FPS sacrifice on ultra quality early on and texture mesh issues from 4k textures not scaling correctly on a multiple monitor setup.
But I agree m8 you dont have to worry about any of that shit because consoles wont have the hardware for it for at least a decade at this rate
>>342930390
my ENB certainly did.
>>342922095
>bethesda being lazy again
what a suprise
![[laugh].png](https://i.imgur.com/KZSiYWC.jpg "[laugh].png")
>>342918831
Xenoblade Chronicles series
Most of the Metroid franchise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpNXhzscjQ
>>342930545
Providing evidence for a claim is not spoonfeeding, you retarded faggot.
>when console friend saves disappear for the first time
>when game wont launch for thousands of babbies
>when everyone get made because 2FPS
>when the mod selection is still shitty and slow
>when support is dropped because the money isn't good enough for modders to stay working on mods
>when they cant do anything about it because console hardware and interface, bethesda mod managing (probably)
>>342931327
It's already been confirmed by modders that bethesda's mod managing is awful.
2GB limit for total mods installed, bethesda.net only allows one file per page, so mods with variations need one page for each one, same goes for translations.
>>342926649
to be fair they leave you alive as bacl up dna if somethign goes with the baby during the research, as thier dna are similar or some shit like that
the rest is pretty much true
Divinity 2 had a massive, massive world with tons of shit to find in it.
>>342922640
no, of course not
but this is 4chan
>>342918831
My brother-in-law has Fallout 4 for his PS4. I had no intention of buying a copy of Fallout 4, but is it worth a borrowed weekend of playing?
>>342931828
After owning the PC version I found the PS4 graphical quality, controls, FPS, gameplay and motion blur completely unacceptable. There's input delay that I dont notice with a Keyboard and mouse
>>342932152I don't have a PC capable of playing anything beyond Solitaire.I was just asking if it was worth a play at all.
>>342932152
>There's input delay that I dont notice with a Keyboard and mouse
Might be because of the smooth 20-28fps fluctuation.
>>342930034
I'm a console owner who has no problems modding PC games. You're talking out of your ass because "muh masterrace". If you think you're smart because you can mod your fucking Skyrim, I pity you.
>>342932152
dump all your screenshots, senpai
>>342925428
>not the fact that you reload 5 rounds after firing 1
>nor the fact that you eject a round both after firing and reloading
>>342926012
god damn dogmeat
>>342929356
Perhaps not bricking the hardware, but I remember an anon talking about how you could sneak a script into a mod that spawns an object underground whenever you return to sanctuary, silently bloating your save file and memory until it becomes impossible to load.
>>342930078
I'd rather go back to the morrowind text box system.
So much exposition you could fit into the game, while also making it easy as hell to mod.
>>342928916
>aurora
>spam grav survey ships and find another planet with 1110000 tons of vanderite
It isn't really exploring if every system is more or less the same as the last
>>342923751
>>342924150
Well I can see why they made it so the dog can't die.
>>342930323
>/v/ is full of this shit lately, people just spout whatever ignorant shit and then continue rambling on when called on it. you don't have the slightest fucking clue
>>342933704
You never know if you might find a derelict alien ship or ancient ruins. Besides, you can never have too much minerals or colonies.
>>342930545
>/v/ is a no spoonfeeding board
>>>/a/
>>342929305
only if you are a storyfag, combat is utter shit
it's very similar to Arcanum now that i think about it
>>342926012
This is whole bethesda in one webm.
>>342934691
Well I love Arcanum for the world, quests and roleplaying but the combat is pretty shit, I agree.
I just get the Ogre in Shrouded hills and give him a pyrotechnic axe and he kills the game.
>>342918831
>>342922442
>Open webm
>Hey there Delilah starts playing.
>>342934845
that sadly doesn't work in Inquisitor, companions ain't that good
but i think it's worth playing through on easy just for the ability to torture faggots you dislike to death and overall pretty realistic and hrim setting. playthroughs are a lot different for each class too iirc
>>342921347
waaaaaaaah waaaaah mommy i dont get muh guns, worst game ever!
>>342918831
>>342921783
>>342922095
>>342922426
>>342924150
>>342924262
>>342924719
>>342924902
>>342925136
>>342926012
>>342926443
Reminder that despite trashing New Vegas for being buggy, reviewers not only defended Fallout 4's being buggier but even praised it for it.
>>342922648
morrowind also had an much more interesting, unique and exotic world
>>342935249
>I lol every time Dogmeat's shitty AI makes him run into landmines and kill me! I love falling through the level geometry and being unable to finish bugged quests, such epic lulz!
>>342935249
>>342935249
>Thought this is a shit 'shop
>Read your post
>Search it
>mfw it's a real Wired article
I can't even
i dont understand all the hate fallout 4 gets
>>342935842
It's not the only one either, there's a whole bunch praising Fallout 4 for being buggy and broken.
>>342921347
It's almost as if the entire game has nothing to do with killing the sea monsters and is almost entirely based on avoiding them.
Adding guns would ruin that. Go back to Call of Duty, it's probably more your speed.
>>342935985
Worst is no one can tell if they're shills or they genuinely think FO4 is a good game.
>>342931797
thats literally what he said
sandy shooting influenced him to basically gun ban the game
Can someone explain to me why so many people shit on Dragon's Dogma's story but not Fallout 4's? Everywhere I look, everyone I talk to, they all seem to think Fallout 4's some great piece of writing, "oh you shouldn't bother with the details, it's just a game", but when it comes to DD everyone stands up and goes "haha those japs made an incomprehensible story, they should hire a real writer :)", even though there is nothing interesting or well-done about Fallout 4's story at all.
Dragon's Dogma would also be a great exploration game if it weren't so small.
>tfw he tried to warn all of us but we didn't listen
https://archive.is/WVCxd
>>342936135
YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND
>>342924719
>>342926012
I love the double ldeal in these, I lose it every time
Someone captures a bug and then accidentaly get another one as well, shit's that fucking common
>>342936334
>Dragon's Dogma would also be a great exploration game if it weren't so small.
Dragon's Dogma would also be a great exploration game if everything wasn't an identical looking forest area.
FTFY
