When will the VR meme end?
When you grow upnever
looks like you have dorito dust on your eyes
>>342888253
It's actually not a meme. It's quite good. It just needs some good games.
You would know this if you actually had a job and could afford one :^)
>>342888483
>It's actually not a meme. It's quite good. It just needs some good games.
You heard the exact same arguments for motion controls in the early days of the Wii
Idk but I don't see it going anywhere
but it already did
try again in 15 years
It looks retarded as shit, aint ever gonna pick up.
>>342888603
You seriously need to try it. It's not some cheap gimmick.
>>342888253
Says the kid with 0 time on either device.
Fuck off kid, you are poor we get it. I took a dump this morning that had a more valid opinion of VR than you do. And I flushed that turd..
>>342888253
It's not. It's shitty now because it's an emerging technology, but it'll improve over time.
>>342888836
This
>>342888721
what's fluttershy, is it from an anime?
>>342888836
can literally say the same thing with motion controls,3D, and kinect. look where they are now.
>>342888603
the wii is a success tho
If they make actual good video games that aren't just gimmicks I might check it out. But for now, I'll just wait and see.
>>342888775
Again, i heard the exact same thing for motion controls and they "worked" exactly as they were intended.
It only took a few years for people to wise up.
>>342889054
And?
>>342888603
>>342889132
Why do you always fall into this flawed shitty logic? One technology failed, now every single technology ever will also fail?
>>342889024
Those were gimmicky and annoying to have to control. I don't see the same problems arising for VR. I'm still excited for it. After all, there are plenty of examples of new tech superseding old.
>>342889230
>gimmicky and annoying to have to control
>not VR
whatever you say anon.
>>342888253
>When will the VR meme end?
when you accept the fact nobody cares about your stupid meme image that you incessantly post for attention
>>342889230
>Blu-ray will never take off, when will this meme end? Laser Disk already tried your shitty CD based media, it'll never work.
>>342888253
2 days ago I tried psvr it was awesome I'm probably gonna get it because im a a sony pony
>>342888721
Q-Q....Quinten?
>>342889606
Comparing one video format to another is a hugely different thing than VR. Even in your own example it's dumb because DVD was already a hugely successful disc based format for video and even today as a bigger market than blu-ray does.
>>342888253
When porn is outlawed.
>>342889132
and your sense of logic is pretty childish, you stupid jockstrap
>>342888253
When you stop playing shit games with no usefull VR.
>>342889213
>Why do you always fall into this flawed shitty logic? One technology failed, now every single technology ever will also fail?
You're being purposefully thick, throwing all "technologies" into the same bucket. VR and motion controls are fairly similar in their aims, new methods to interact with the game world, in which, yes you can easily compare the two. Basically you're asking people to fork over 400-800 dollars for an potentially uncomfortable box you strap to your face that can make you sick and unable to play for long periods of time. Even reduce the cost by half and that's alot to ask of people.
>>342889606
Blu-Ray is a strait up improvement over VCR/DVD, VR is a completely new paradigm that is very different from traditional displays. VR potentially large disadvantages while DVD's/Blu Rays had few
>>342890060
I get tingles when she reaches for behind my ear
>>342890240
I don't understand the purpose of that pic.
>>342890190
Point out the flaw in my logic.
there's good applications for vr, however the least of which is video games.
>>342890335
You idiot, they've made and re-made these things for comfort, especially companies like Oculus who have had more time than anyone to perfect the design of the headset.
Literally NOBODY has called the latest iteration of Oculus Rift "uncomfortable to wear"
>>342890060
is this mocap?
>>342888253
It won't.
It's barely just started and will only keep getting better.
A more appropriate question is, why do you want it to fail?
>>342890760
You're sound more like a shill by the second. And note i said "potentially uncomfortable" for a reason.
Strapping a VR headset to your face is by definition more unconformable that looking at your television, and we're talking about wearing these things for hours playing video games.
>>342890335
> VR and motion controls are fairly similar in their aims, new methods to interact with the game world, in which, yes you can easily compare the two
Okay then, I'll narrow what I said
Past "new methods to interact with the game world" have failed, now every single "new methods to interact with the game world" will fail? Great logic.
> Even reduce the cost by half and that's alot to ask of people.
Apparently not, according to sales figures
>>342888253
Around the same time the motion control meme ends.
Which won't be anytime soon. Thanks, Shitendo.
>>342891230
If he's sounding like a shill, then you're sounding like a troll. You aren't actually highlighting problems that VR has, you're highlighting potential problems that it possibly could have (but doesn't). You can do the exact same thing with literally every technology. If you base your arguments around people's actual experiences with the product instead of your imagined flaws with it then you'd have more credence.
>>342891230
That's a baseless hypothetical.
These things are not particularly heavy and the straps are engineered to distribute the weight so they are not uncomfortable at all.
>VR is a meme
>unless Sony does it
>>342891294
>Past "new methods to interact with the game world" have failed, now every single "new methods to interact with the game world" will fail? Great logic
Not really what i'm saying, it has a high likelihood of not living up to peoples insane exceptions and you should be extremely skeptical as i am.
>Apparently not, according to sales figures
What do you mean? People will buy anything, even memes that have no staying power. That doesn't mean it will be successful on a meaningful scale.
>>342891163
Because they are some pretty sour grapes.
>>342891531
>>342891531
Not even that guy but 3D failed completely because people didn't want to wear glasses just to watch shit, and even the best designed VR headset is much more than just glasses.
>>342891720
>i can't be bothered to adjust my straps
>>342891621
>No one will buy this
>people bought it
>OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WILL BUY IT
okay man, sure
>>342891837
It only has 2 positions: snow goggles tight or loose.
>>342888836
>impying any technology in the history of mankind ever started out shitty and got better with time
>>342891747
The fuck are you on about?
Back in the day 3D failed because the technology wasn't where it needed to be to add anything to the viewing experience.
Now people have no fucking problem wearing glasses in the cinema, even though the added value is still negligible.
JUST INSTANT BLOCK LMAO
>>342892007
Don't be so intentionally thick, you can try to convince yourself your right but it's not going to work on other people.
Bought something and realised it sucks so you delude yourself into thinking its good: The Thread
>>342892072
I have no problem wearing snow goggles for hours on end so I don't really see your point.
>>342892180
I'm talking about 3D TV moron.
>>342892267
That they fuck up your face.
>>342892269
Could have specified, dumbfuck.
>>342892187
UGH UGH FAFNIR
UGH UGH KUDAKERO
UGH UGH 5 FRAME SAFE OVERHEAD JUGGLABLE COMBO
>human head and neck are not made to support weight beyond the head its self
>no matter how "light" headsets get, they are still too heavy and they have to be off-centre of gravity because they have to be in front of your eyes
>the entire premise is flawed beyond saving without even starting to get into the technology side of things
>>342892376
And socks leave impressions on your skin when you take them off, so what?
>>342888836
>It's shitty now because it's an emerging technology, but it'll improve over time.
VR is two decades old. This is the point where it was finally supposed to not suck and it still sucks.
>>342891747
but 3D is fucking pointless.Thats pretty sad if people aren't willing to put on glasses though.How much effort does that really take?
>>342892180
>Now people have no fucking problem wearing glasses in the cinema, even though the added value is still negligible.
That's bullshit, in most theaters you don't have the option of watching in 2D, so people just have to deal with that retardation. That doesn't mean they'd want that shit in their homes.
>>342892450
t.Bullshit
>>342892502
Literally everyone who tries it disagrees
>>342892450
even if you think that, they could put a counterweight on the back of the head you tard
>>342892450
Yeah that's why headphones and electronic goggles and fucking hats have never been a thing.
>>342892490
That you don't wear socks when you're at home.
VR is really fucking cool, it just lacking a reason to actually get the damn things
All I've seen so far is space ship flying and shooting gallery games
>>342892734
>you don't wear socks when you're at home
what?
Summer Lesson for steamvr WHEN
>>342892502
>VR is two decades old
No, it was attempted 20 years ago, forgotten and now recreated from scratch with technologies that didn't even exist back then.
>>342892701
People generally don't like large headphones. That example doesn't really help your case.
>>342892701
>headphones
Most people use earbuds.
>electronic goggles
What?
>and fucking hats
Who uses hats nowadays, other than specialized hats if they're working or something.
>>342892734
I would if it was cold. If it serves a function then the extremely minor discomfort of wearing socks is easily ignored.
>>342892838
Never. Not for North America at least.
You can thank modern feminism.
>>342891230
>hours playing video games
anon...You spend several hours playing video games in a single session?
>>342892906
>faggots generally don't like large headphones
ftfy
Smaller headphones don't adequately drown out ambient noise.
>>342888982
Yes, it's from the anime and manga series called 私たちの小さな馬:仲間意識が魔力であります
>>342893145
People are faggots then, NOBODY likes large headphones.
>>342892906
My case doesn't need any help when the only opposition to it is a bunch of arbitrary unsupported statements like "people don't like large headphones" played off as fact.
Wow, way to meme OP. I bet you are top memester on the reddit.
>>342893013
Ok. Still, you can wear socks and do whatever you want without any issues, and that's not the case with VR goggles,
VR is really good, if more people got to try it they'd stop talking shit.
>>342888483
What it needs is independent positional tracking. Until I can run around on a football field with my phone strapped on my face I ain't buying shit. At least Carmack is working on that.
>>342893242
And your statement that large headphones exist does?
When will memes in general die?
>>342893262
What the fuck are you talking about? When you wear the fucking things you're playing a game or watching porn.
They do not interfere with you doing that, dumbass.
>>342893224
>>342893471
When Hillary Clinton is elected President.
>>342888253
when all the retards who bought into it stop having buyer's remorse
>>342890335
>yes you can easily compare the two
No, not really. Motion controls are just that, but VR headsets now have good enough tracking to trick your brain, and that's why tons of people get motion sickness. It's completely different.
>>342893314
True but that will never happen on /v/.
This place is full of poorfag NEETs who can't afford a headset and don't leave their house so they'll never encounter a tech demo either.
I got to play with some of the VR equipment at last summer's IDF conference.
Best one by far, hands down, is the Vive.
The one I'd also like to see succeed is the OSVR (Open-source VR), could be a promising cheap alternative with lots of support.
Fuck Oculus Rift though, I don't trust anything that has to do with Facebook.
Why isn't there any videos or even screens of this? I'm finding it hard to justify spending hundreds of euros on technology when you don't even know how it works.
>See VR when it releases
>"Ah that's pretty cool"
>See giantbomb video that's always posted
>"Oh shit nevermind"
>Dad says he wants one for his PS4
>"Well fuck if he's going to get one anyway may as well have him goes halfsies on a Vive with me, less cost for both of us, and it's not relegated to the PSQuadra"
>Buy the Vive
>Expect janky ass glitchy ass no fun play, really wanted it for the waifu sims
>It's actually pretty fun
It's never going to replace anything but it's neat in its own right and gives a new experience to vidya, if you're not retarded.
>>342893835
Go somewhere and test it.
>>342893478
>when you're playing a game or watching porn
Do you do those things in complete isolation? Do you also put yourself an IV and a catheter?
>>342890335
VR is nothing like motion controls. It's more like a new resolution level that makes games look better and become wayyy more immersive. The only disadvantages are the set-up time (which for anyone who's tried it will find spending an hour one time worthwhile for the vive, or less for the oculus), the lack of content, and the cost of entry (both of which will be fixed over time).
have you tied VR yet?
>>342892869
No, VR as a research technology is at least 30 years old, and serious research hardware surpassed current consumer models for most of that time. It was just bigger and more expensive.
>>342893835
>Why isn't there any videos or even screens of this?
Is that a serious question?
Because no video will ever accurately reflect the sensation of seeing something in fucking VR, genius.
>>342893889
It's going to replace your eyes. VR is really the next step to achieving replacements for complex body parts like the human eye.
>>342893953
>VR is nothing like motion controls.
>they all use all sorts of different motion controls for your movement and your camera
>>342892269
3D TV doesn't add nearly as much as VR does.
Higher resolution, more games, lower prices.
That's what VR needs right now.
VR is a meme that will be forgotten and tried again in 10 years when the tech is actually there, now its just screens you attach to your face with head tracking +1000$
>>342888721
I know you're just looking for a fucking (you), so here's your fucking (you). Can we move on now please?
when porn games such as illusion games say they have an oculus patch is there a way to get them working on Vive too?
>>342892869
>recreated from scratch with technologies that didn't even exist back then
You don't believe that, do you?
It's an improved version of the same technology that existed back then, they invented absolutely nothing from scratch.
Two decades of progress it's still two monitors strapped to your face and motion controls, just like it was back then. The only thing that changed is the graphics quality and the size and weight of the gear involved.
>>342894090
>Since it uses motion controls it has the same limitations as strict motion control.
I've been devving a VR RTS for the Vive, called Cosmic Trip.
Here's a giphy, if you want to see some random gifs of it.
http://giphy.com/gifs/hugs-snuggles-cosmic-trip-3o72FgAKhsLlKfs0F2
Ask me anything, anons. I own a Vive, Oculus, and PSVR.
>>342893917
No seriously, what the fuck are you getting at here?
That you can't eat while wearing a headset? That you can't take a shit while wearing a headset?
YOU TAKE IT THE FUCK OFF, GO EAT, TAKE A DUMP AND THEN PUT IT BACK ON.
Holy shit, your retardation is legitimately infuriating. The worst part is that you're not even pretending.
Can I play Overwatch, or Doom or something like that in VR? WoW would be really cool in VR.
>>342894180
>now its just screens you attach to your face with head tracking
as opposed to what
>>342894284
Also, the game is out on Steam in Early Access already.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/427240/
>>342894284
why do you waste your time with a failed product?
>>342894331
>YOU TAKE IT THE FUCK OFF, GO EAT, TAKE A DUMP AND THEN PUT IT BACK ON.
Can't you see just how big of a pain in the ass that is?
>>342894043
>homebrew PCs existed but were never hugely popular from the 70s-90s therefore PCs will never take off
t. fucking retard like you
>>342894197
>two monitors strapped to your face
It's not.
>>342888836
This
The porn industry is literally throwing millions at this
Pretty much depends on how quickly porn gets adapted to it. If they're on top of it then it won't go away, if they don't then it will be dead in the water for another couple decades.
>>342894332
bethesda already made a doom vr demo. They are rereleasing Fallout 4 for VR as well
>>342894332
No, I think the games need strict VR support, I bought a Vive and I can't play most newer games because it renders it twice, once for the headset and once for the screen.
Although WoW does have a VR mod, so you CAN play it, don't expect it to be perfect though.
>>342894380
It's sold enough in the two weeks of early access to cover about a quarter of dev costs for the next year. It's not a failed product, anon.
There are almost 100,000 headsets currently in consumer hands. (I can guarantee at least 80,000, as of a few weeks ago) - for an $800 product that requires a $1000 PC, that's pretty damn impressive.
I don't consider it failed tech, but I do consider it unnecessary (used the dev kits for the past 2 years). There still isn't really anything resembling what is described in Snow Crash/Neuromancer, and the amount effort pushed towards these feature is minimal at best. Mostly just games and porn.
I don't want to play any games on the thing, there are barely any development teams I trust anymore (or buy from for that matter). Porn is pretty pointless as that requires me to give a shit about sex and so on.
very easy to see it as a gimmick.
>>342894413
It fucking isn't, you drooling retard. It's no more of a hassle than taking off your headphones and you don't go running to the toilet every other minute.
>>342894413
How much do you weigh, bro?
>>342888603
Wii Sports was a great game and was why the Wii sold.
>>342894475
>>342894516
It has to be compatible with VR? It isn't just playing the game through the headset?
>>342893835
turn off your computer and look around. that's what VR is like.
>>342894413
it's not really that bad
I used to play sims a lot with a retarded LED clip on my head I would have to put on and get my camera software running every time. A HMD is easier
>>342889132
>VR WILL BE JUST LIKE THE WII
>The Wii was a success
>OH SHIT, BETTER ACT DISMISSIVE
>>342894416
Wow, HMDfags really are only capable of bad analogies. The difference between computers in the 70s and HMDs at any point in time is that computers have always had a killer app, which is databases. The main good application for HMDs is flight simulation, which is really marginal.
>>342894560
>I don't consider cars failed tech but I do consider them unnecessary because I never need to go anywhere far away
>>342894518
>its not a failed gimmick already fading into obscurity
sure thing anon
>>342894707
That's initially what I though, but yeah, it has to be compatible with VR for it not to fuck your PC to pieces with how many times it renders the damn game.
Can play Project cars like a dream, can't play the new HITMAN if my life depended on it.
>>342888253
It stops being a meme when you buy one.
Much like how everyone thought computers were a meme until they actually bought one, or that cars would be a meme until they bought one.
>>342894818
what an atrocious analogy. Again, try again.
>>342894673
it was ok, the wii had so many better games
>>342888915
>maximum interest
>>342894573
It is a lot more of a hassle, you retard. You don't have your headphones attached to your head. You don't have to position them carefully over your eyes. You can do other things without having to pause the game and either turn on the outside camera or remove the damn thing altogether. It is a huge pain in the ass.
>>342894824
I don't understand why you think this? It's sold nearly 100,000 and it hasn't even been a full year in release. That's outstanding. Not only that, but it's gaining momentum. Tons of AAA companies are starting to deeply look into it.
Not just the Vive, but VR in general. The Gear might be dumb but has sold over a million units now. And it's just a light introduction to VR.
Although I don't agree with it, I feel that PSVR will be the one to REALLY take off and sell the first million over the Vive, despite the Vive being the superior product, just because it is more expensive.
>>342894425
What? You think they invented some new never before seen type of display unit for VR? It beams it directly to your brain?
Dude, it's two monitors, some motion detection equipment and some software to run it all, same as it was back then. Nothing new.
>>342894904
Try rephrasing your stupid shit then because that is basically what you said.
>It has these uses right here but I'm personally not interested in them so it's worthless for everyone
>>342894894
>comparing a gimmick to computers and cars
Holy shit stop being so unbelievably delusional, you shill.
>>342894741
>The main good application for HMDs is flight simulation, which is really marginal.
yet there are more and more space and cockpit sims coming out because people actually enjoy VR. Sony has a tank game for psvr too.
literally everyone is putting money in and saying vr is here to stay. Don't act surprised when you're wrong as fuck.
>>342893913
>go to best buy for PSVR demo
>wait in like about 30 minutes
>dirty normies around me talking about dirty normie things like playing casualshit overwatch with their 3d trash girlfriends
>im next in line
>oh shit, a qt is running the demo
>she's call me up because its my turn
>"hi, how's your day?"
>"f...fine..."
>"yeah? do you have a lot of experience with games?"
>"y..yeah I've played some waifu games"
>"wai..fu? what's that?"
>get nervous
>start farting my nervous farts
>she give me a weird look
>everyone in line starts whispering behind my back
>I run to mommys car and have her drive me to mcdonalds to help me feel better
vr is complete shit guys.
>>342895058
>I've never played with a vive before the post
wow
>>342895125
>Cars
>Not a gimmick
HAHAHAH RICH FAG CAN'T EVEN FEED HIS HORSES HOLY SHIT!
>>342895013
You adjust the straps for your head once and then you can just slip it on. For the rift the headphones are even attached to the headset.
Have you ever actually used one or are you completely talking out of your ass?
>>342895019
>100,000
>outstanding
>>342895079
Didn't say it was worthless at all, you just said that. Right now. Most of what you wrote was based on an assumption because of a few key words. Not the entire sentence. Try again.
>>342895013
>You don't have your headphones attached to your head
lmao
>>342895058
It's one display, not two.
If I bought a Vive right now, what porn games could I play?
>>342892490
>impressions on your ankles (if you're not wearing sport socks)
>walking around with a red face
c'mon anon
>>342895223
It is considering most of the "PC master race" can't even pass the fucking SteamVR test, buddy.
>>342895315
Do you have straps on your headphones? Are you special?
>>342895223
>$80,000,000
>not outstanding
please consider suicide
Most companies are hoping on to it now cause they want to be there when something groundbreaking happens
>>342895356
Red face goes away in like 10 minutes bro.
Don't know why you'd plan to play with VR for 5 hours straight and then go straight to work.
>bought a new phone to try gear vr
>could have bought Vive for the same price
at least it's spread over two years
>>342889054
the games are still shit
>>342895169
Okay, if you want to hitch your wagon to flight simulators and tank games, be my guest. I'll stick to playing actual games personally.
>>342895404
yes it's called a headband which holds them on using pressure exactly the same as an HMD works
>>342895019
cool i cant wait to buy a vive to play on my ouya
I'm guessing that by the time VR gets to its 3rd generation, it will be a god tier platform that everyone must have.
>>342895223
They sold every unit they produced.
>>342895125
It's a gimmick when they first came out. What's the point of a car when everyone has horses?
Plus, the technology was expensive and had no track record as it was so new. The parallels are pretty good.
Also much like early computers, VR will take up a whole room.
>>342894737
Where are the motion controls today?
>>342895415
>doesn't even know how profits work
>things anybody will develop games for such an small userbase
You don't have to consider it, just end yourself.
Is Summer Lesons the newNEVER EVER?
>>342895353
>that clipping
I hardly ever notice stuff like this but that is bad.
>>342895353
Pretty sure CM3D2 has full support.
>>342895569
The nice thing about it is that I can enjoy both VR games and regular games while all you have is sour grapes.
>>342892734
Where the hell do you live?
>>342895605
Well yeah, but isn't that because you had to order them? In fact they had part shortages so it's not like they could have extras lying around.
Which is weird, since if you're making them to order then surely you should know how many parts you'd need. It's not like someone walks in and wants to buy 50 all at once and you don't have that many in stock.
>>342895569
I'll play whatever the fuck I want you dumb piece of shit
car games are popular as well
not to mention all the standing roomscale games
>>342888253
My bro got it for games, I just use it for videos like watching my own animations in a virtual theater. Feels good man. Fun to experiment with.
>>342895614
It's a coach that doesn't require horses, you fucking retard. Holy shit you're dumb. Fuck off with your shitty analogies.
>>342895659
>things anybody will develop games for such an small userbase
>the studio I work at is developing the game for the small userbase
Not many AAA studios are taking the risk, but some are. And smaller studios like mine will profit the most off of it. We're not just developing for the 100,000 now, but for the million of the end of 2017.
>>342895019
I want the PSVR just so I can play PS4 without a TV. Playing the Wii U without a TV is surprisingly handy.
>>342895636
Wii U has them. Splatoon controls very well for example.
>>342895353
sexy beach premium resort says it has an oculus patch but idk what it's like or if it works on vive.
>>342895913
>Expensive machine
>Requires some nerd ass mechanic
>When I can just feed and fuck my horse and be good to go
Car shill LEAVE
>>342895913
And PSVR is a Playstation that doesn't require TVs, what's your point?
Why are you so mad though?
>>342895913
Keeps using it to like it's accurate and he's convincing anyone, it's a terrible analogy.
Got to try a Vive a few days ago. Cool shit, but it's definitely limited by shitty games. The hardware is damn near perfect.
>>342895448
Because I like to squeeze vidya in when I have free time? You know, sit down, play, then get up and do something else with minimum hassle? It's just another strike against it, not necessarily a deal-breaker on its own but combined with all the other issues...
>>342895913
>Yeah it moves without horses but it requires special fuel that's really expensive and barely anyone knows how to drive and maintain it so really I'll just stick with the horses, they get me from point A to B just fine. Really the Horseless Carriage meme should just end.
>>342894090
>a minor aspect of the technology is the same, therefore the new visual medium is no different than this old input medium.
don't worry, someday they'll find a cure for autism.
>>342895318
Congratulations, your pedantry triumphs.
>>342894180
>I haven't tried it, the post
>>342896139
Oh, yes, cause TVs are such a hassle to use. Yeah, nothing like the comfort of having to strap some oversized goggles to your face.
>>342888253
When rogue sexbots cull all biological life
>I CAN'T AFFORD IT, SO I'LL CALL IT A MEME XD
>>342895870
Oh man, you mean I can play ANY KIND of cockpit simulator? Well sign me up!
Also, roomscale games are terrible.
>>342896381
it is actually pretty comfy because you can have any virtual environment you want instead of my shitty dirty house
>>342896265
>the way you control the games
>a minor aspect
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
>>342895448
also the original post was about comparing red impressions on your ankles to massive red impressions on your face, one is significantly more embarrassing and noticeable than the other.
even with my 1440p phone display, it's hard to read things in VR. When will 2nd generation come with higher res screens?
Besides spoiled kids and mustards, no one will ever buy it. The average Walmart waddler will think of it as just an unnecessary and expensive toy. It's one thing for consoles to flop but it's another for an expensive console accessory to fail
>>342896219
You do realize you have to clear out room space and put on equipment for VR, it's not something you squeeze in an hour before work you brain dead nob.
>>342894331
or you get the vive that has a camera you can use if you gotta do something in the real world.
>lol you just can't afford it that's why you call it a meme
>>342892142
>what are cars
>what are computers
>what is internet
>>342892834
fucking man children don't wear socks at home would rather show their little toesies off to anyone that is near them. disgusting.
>>342896479
yeah just ignore that you can play many kinds of games on it
>wow you mean ANY kind of FPS or 3rd person shooter / platformer???
>>342896136
Horses need vets. You know they get sick right? Cars can also be brought back from the dead, unlike horses. You also have to shovel a lot of shit if you keep animals.
>>342896719
All things that would be called memes if they were invented today
>>342896479
Honestly, with VR I want a giant robot cockpit simulator. That would be fucking awesome.
>>342896648
3 years, I'd wager.
PC graphics are are only now nearing 4k as the standard and VR will need two 4k images rendered at 90fps simultaneously so it's still a bit much for modern hardware.
>>342896539
>it is actually pretty comfy because you can have any virtual environment
He was talking about physical comfort not looking around a virtual cottage with a weight strapped to your face.
>>342896697
You do know the thing is attached with a data and power cable, right?
You can't really move that far.
>>342896696
>You do realize you have to clear out room space
Not if you're playing a cockpit game.
>>342896719
>>342896852
All things that were amazing when they were invented, unlike your shitty gimmick, you delusional fucks.
>>342896696
just keep the floor empty that you want to play VR in
put HMD on head
wow so hard
>>342896894
Why 90fps?
VR is okay, but honestly not worth having yet. No must-have experiences developed for them yet. Someday it will be good, just not yet unless you can't live without tech demos.
>>342896381
You don't have to worry about sunlight obscuring the TV, or people blocking the way when they walk in front of it. Plus, it frees up the TV for someone else to use as well. Not only that, it lets you play in situations where using the TV isn't an option, like you're in a hotel room and can't access the TV's ports or the TV is broken.
>>342896369
i will not try it because i know its just a stupid gimmick that will be forgotten just like this thread
>>342897060
VR is amazing. You would know that if you had ever tried it.
>>342895058
they're unique displays that render 3d objects dynamically with your head movements you dingus. the videos you see online look nothing like the VR experience because it is completely impossible to represent in 2D.
>>342896843
But you can't play any kind of FPS on it, and you can only play certain kinds of 3d platrofmers. You can only play first-person roomscale games, which limits you to shooting galleries, and third-person games need limited degrees of freedom on the non-tracked camera movement. That's kind of the point of my objection, there's really serious limitations to the technology that people just seem to gloss over because they're in the honeymoon phase.
>>342888253
I know what you mean, when will this cellphone meme die as well?
Nothing beats a good old, reliable land line.
>>342896381
Yeah, nothing like having a physical 200" TV mounted to the ceiling above your bed.
>>342896894
it would probably just be one 4k display for both eyes which isn't that big of a jump from 1440p
and psvr uses 1080p which sounds really bad
>>342897107
To avoid motion sickness.
If it's less than 90 then you'd experience a disconnect between you head motions and what you see on the screen.
>>342897060
VR is also amazing.
First cars were shit. Just like internet, computer, internet. and that's the from the top of my head.
Give it time.
( I don't own VR and I do not plan to anytime soon. But when it becomes affordable I will get it).
>>342896719
Yeah, just like penicillin
>>342897359
It's one display but it renders two slightly offset images.
>>342896926
but it is comfy? if it's not comfy, get a better couch
>>342897378
>>342897252
Oh, mobile phones is another thing.
Maybe you are too young to remember it, but at first everyone were laughing at its large size and generally perceived uselessness.
I have a Vive and a Rift. I have a room large enough to use max size room scale without moving anything. Modern VR is amazing shit and not like anything else not even comparable to the smartphone versions. If you're in to video games and technology in general it's cool as fuck but like anything else brand new it costs more than it should so it stands in the luxury space that people here don't comprehend due to being poor.
ITT poor people and retards who are uninformed
>>342897593
be careful your buyer's remorse is showing
>>342897060
>First computers were literally the size of a room and took 3 hours to do calculations anyone who isn't shit at maths could do in minutes, plus were complicated to use by anyone who wasn't trained in using them
>Early cars were shitboxes. Radiators would break in the winter, tires would pop every two days, engine break downs were frequent and roads were originally designed to be used by a horse and carriage, so a horseless car would eventually need a team of horses to pull it out of the mud when there was heavy rain
>Motherfucker if you were old enough to use this site you'd know dial up was shit, and internet was shit before that back when it was used by the public.
>>342897248
except there are literally games with joystick movement for psvr already
>>342897378
>>342897501
You can't be fucking serious. All those things were amazing when they were invented, you absolute retard. VR is just a gimmick. It has been a gimmick for the past 30 years, in fact, and nothing has changed, because it's a fucking gimmick. Stop being retarded already, for fucks sake.
>>342897252
Cell phone pros:
>Make calls
>Make emergency calls
>Make plans
>Social media
>Play games
>Use as a flashlight
VR Pros:
>Cut off bloodflow to your face
>Give yourself migraines
>Play games I guess?
>>342897478
yes and 4k is 16:9
>>342896551
y..you are aware that VR can be played with a normal controller, right?
>>342889024
Those were gimmicks create for an already established console. They had no plans to fully invest in developing those technologies. Oculus only makes VR it will always try to make the latest and great in VR because thats waht it does. and so it will progress. Kinect and anything else wont because they will always be 2ndary features not primary.
>>342897378
All of those were great and were useful
>>342897501
They were useful just not for everybody. Only few people needed them because of their job
Kinda like laptops.
But then tech improved and stuff got smaller and lighter.
How will VR advance or what needs to be improved?
>>342897949
>>Make plans
>>Social media
>>Play games
>>Use as a flashlight
Yeah, the phone in that picture can totally do those things.
>>342896987
I thought we were talking about doing stuff during our gaymin session, not household chores.
>>342898106
VR will improve by being completely irrelevant in 2 years and saving people from buying into an over priced ouya-tier device
>>342890060
When the dab just right
>>342897875
>n fact, and nothing has changed
dumb person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIxY6G-UHE
>>342897378
>>342897501
I feel like people making these analogies don't know anything about the technologies they're talking about. The internet was developed for military communications, and it was fantastic for that purpose. Its next chief role was allowing researchers to easily communicate, in particular, to communicate about the future design of the internet. Then it moved on to allowing university faculty and students to communicate. All this was decades before the world wide web, which is what people who make poor analogies think the internet is.
Computers were originally designed by mathematicians who wanted a way of approaching problems that were intractable in the early 20th century. This reached its greatest prominence with cryptography in World War II. From there, they became usable for storing and manipulating data, which made them slowly replace filing systems, and also gave them the role of aggregating data and generating reports. This gave them an increasing role in document preparation. And so on.
The original (consumer) mobile phones were car phones, that needed a specially-mounted antenna to get a strong enough signal. Even these devices were incredibly useful for businessmen who wanted to be able to stay in touch while traveling. People may have made fun of the bulkiness of brick phones, but that doesn't mean they weren't incredibly useful.
This is to say, as other people have said, all these things were useful right from the start. Simply asserting that something is "like computers in some imagined ways" doesn't make that thing useful from the start.
Is there a way to try this vr shit out before I make a decision on purchasing it?
>>342898106
>How will VR advance or what needs to be improved?
FOV, resolution, weight, comfort and removing wires.
