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Hyuga too good.

brackets: https://smash.gg/tournament/ceo-2016/brackets

stream at twitch / CEOGaming
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first for when's SFV
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>>342883750
Hyuga is like top 3 in the world atm
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WHOS GONNA WIN? WHO DO YOU THINK?
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a true mexi-can
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DONDE ESTABAS CUANDO HYUGA SE CHINGO A LOS GRINGOS?
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who /mexico/ here?
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Free
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>>342883816
lof guys got really lucky runs this year, everybody who was good choked and got knocked out early while their pools were free as fuck

they're really not that good honestly
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>Walls of projectile spam
Fuck this character.
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>>342883987
Aqui anon, esperando a que Leo tenga visa pa' que se joda a los sucios gringos como hyuga lo esa haciendo.
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lmaaoo
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OLE OLE OLE OLE
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>>342883960

DeBush
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TRUMPFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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3-0
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3-0
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Zero's out?
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SOMOS MEXICANOS AHORA NO MAS PUENDEN HABLAR ESPANIOL AQUI!
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Hyuga PLEASE beat Zinoto, POR FAVOR
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Guys there was no Cloud this top 16
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>>342884092
Whatever character can zone the best will always be top tier in fighting games.

Like Morrigan in UMvC3 for instance.
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There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who weren't routing for El Santo
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>>342884201
kek
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>>342884215
you're right, that's why it has been so nice

if only dabuz would get out
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>>342883960
Our guy Abadango
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>>342884292
>not liking based dabuz

gonna lick the tears off your face when he wins GF
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If Hyuga doesn't beat Zinoto then it's RIP for Abadango if he beats Mr. R.
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Let us remember the days when sheik was an omnipotent goddess.

bad times.
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>>342884231
That was the only good intro.
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>Dat Entrance
>El Santo Mask
>SI! Chants
>3-0 over a Sheik

What a moment, it was just missing a Cielito Lindo chant to make it perfect.
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If Hyuga wins CEO, I'll learn Spanish.
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>>342884467
If Abadango wins CEO, I'll learn Japanese
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>sponsor 2 players right before the tournament
>they both get to winners finals
rigged
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ABA
ABA
ABA
ABA
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>>342883960
I think Dabuz is going to win.

I want either Abadango or Hyuga to take it though, Larry was my favorite initially but at least it was Aba who beat him.
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i wonder where Leo is.

he routinely rapes hyuga in mexican touranments with his secondaries.
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>>342884371
Bayo pre-nerf was more oppressive than Shiek pre-nerf. She was literally killing the game and carrying no name shitters.
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Offical faggorty tier list for sword users from biggest faggot to least
Clould>Corrin>Toon Link>Link>MK>Robin>Lucina>Roy>Pits>Marth>Ike>Shulk
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>>342884551
Leo 3-0's Hyuga with his Marth, in fact.
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Wait, what sort of memory damage do I have I thought Aba beat the Fox/DK player?
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>And. Here. We. Go. Game 4 kicking off.
>Wait, this is Game 5?

>Both players at high percent
>[High-pitched shrieking intensifies]

>Looks like that boy just got taken to the extended metaphor!
>[Awkward laughter]

>Player dies
>What just happened? I guess that was bad DI?

>Anyone dark-skinned shows up
>[Starts speaking Spanish]

What am I missing?
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>>342884354

>Dabuz wins with Rosa
>Rosa gets nerfed next patch
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Realistically, how possible is it for based Hyuga to beat Zinoto?
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>>342884551
Still deported

>>342884628
Fuck off False
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>>342884628
>i've never seen a Shulk play

Shulk might be the worst. His gameplay is pretty much Jump -> Nair
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>>342884564
Got me there. Seeing players having their character carried off the top without them being able to do anything was soul crushing.
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>>342884694
unlikely because zinoto is a god
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>>342884628

Put Roy and Lucina behind MK
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>>342884692
>he just picks olimar and wins anyway
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>>342884628
>Corrin that high
Explain. Are you just salty that she got in?
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>>342884694
Very unlikely
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Why doesn't Abadango ever completely charge the shadow ball even when he has all the time in the world after a kill?
That shit is triggering me
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>>342884692
>rosa ever getting nerfed in this lifetime
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>>342884820
>>342884909
Didn't Hyuga beat Zinoto already
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>>342884628
Shulk is way more of a faggot than Ike, do not let memes cloud your judgement.
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>>342884874
Not the same guy but Corrin players are generally massive twats.
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3/6 left are foreigners, fuck do i have to root for dabuz now
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>>342884694
Not sure how Hyuga does against Diddy, and Zinoto is likely the best Diddy in the world right now.
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>>342884917
>he doesn't know

getting one tick less on charge attacks like DK's punch or samus's charge makes it more powerful than a full charge, risk/reward
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>>342884874
No, his easy as juggles, counter, and super safe killsetups make him annoying
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>>342884692
>Sakurai nerfing his waifu

Namco literally has to beg him for weeks just to get -1 hp on Luma.
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Who beat Abadango to put him in losers?
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>>342884686
>[Talk about some random shit vaguely related to what's happening on screen]
>..and back to the match!
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>>342883960
considering all the weird shit that's happened so far imma take a wild guess and bet ANTi
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>>342885063
Dabuz
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>>342885063
https://smash.gg/tournament/ceo-2016/brackets/11789/45259/150418
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>>342884815
I miss Pre Nerf Bayonetta.

It was too harsh.
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>>342884959
>He's never had to endure 1.0 Rosalina.
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>>342885153
>>342885148
Thanks famalam
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>>342885059
Sakurai has real shit taste in women then.
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>>342885263
>8 second luma respawn
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>>342884959
rosa got nerfed in like 3 patches
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>>342885015
Shit really? I thought people did that to make the other player forget about the effectively fully charged attack
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Why is Mewtwo Literally the most satisfying character to watch?
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>>342885015
I knew about DK's punch because he trades the super armor for more power, but I've never heard anything on that from Samus or Mewtwo
some source on that
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>>342885495
its not true
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What was the strongest pre-nerf character?
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>>342885382
Manlets often like amazons.
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I would play smash4 just for mewtwo
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>>342885015
pretty sure that's bullshit and he uses it for movement
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>>342885485
he really is
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>>342885540
Ganondorf
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>>342885540
Diddy or Luigi
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>>342885540
Diddy or Bayo
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>>342885540

Diddy
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>>342885540
Diddy by far
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>>342885485
Combination of stage control and one good but not bullshit projectile.
Low tier to high tier.
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>>342885485
I agree, and yet I can't play him, shit's suffering
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>>342885540
1.0.0 Sheik, Rosa, Diddy were all ABSURD

People forget that Sheik B-air and Rosa U-smash used to kill CRAZY early.
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>>342885478
that's also a good reason to use it

>>342885495
I could be wrong, I forgot what it was specifically called so I can't find it
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>sheik has to work hard for kill
>mewtwo can just lol upthrow
ITS NOT FAIR
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>>342885239
The outrage over the character was so widespread that she had to be thrown into the dumpster to appease people.
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>>342885579
He can still do better then fucking space peach.
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>>342885540
>>342885651

Shit, Luigi too
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>>342885485
maybe, that airdodge pisses me off way more than it should though
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>>342885540
probably sheik but diddy got more results because he was easier

>>342885703
there is a character based off getting kills with 0 effort
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>>342885706
It's a shame she wasn't in the base game, people obviously get more upset by strong DLC characters than strong Base Game.
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>>342885485

It's the "he's finally good" factor. if you occasionally forget about PM like I do
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>>342885485
Because of his thick thighs.
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>>342885713
It's japan man, they love rosa.
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>>342885790
forgot my pic
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C'mon mewtwo....
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>>342885540
Rosalina in 3DS days

Diddy for Wii U
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>>342885854
>his
Isn't it canonly no-gender in the games?
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>>342885540
Bananas are not hard to play around with. Even back then, people speculated that 1.0.0 Sheik was the best once people optimized her. Uair killed at like 100%, fair was much more powerful, bouncing fish killed at low 100s consistently, back air was actually useful, and she still had all of her pre 1.1.5 stuff that people never figured out back in 2014.

Diddy's 2-frame uair that kills on the ground at 110% was insane to fight against though.
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ABADANGO DABUZ GRAND FINALS CONFIRMED
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A B A D A N G O
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DIE BITCH.
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fuck mewtoo
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>>342885894
>Le Back Throw Kid

Get good scrub Ness gets shat on by half the cast
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>le up throw
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>up throw kill
Abadango is such a faggy chink
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FUCK MEWTWO

FUCK MEWTWO

FUCK THROW KILLS
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>>342886073
He has the manliest voice possible.
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FUCK YES ABADANGO

Now Hyuga has to beat Zinoto by some miracle
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husbandango wins <3 :D
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A B A D A N G O
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>>342886207
>le back throw kid

more like le pk thunder 2, le bat tip, le up air, le back throw kid
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>>342886073
This one is male just like the first movie
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>>342886210
>le fair to fish
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>le double up throw
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Mewtwo is fucking cancer, nerf this bitch to bayonetta level.
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>>342885758
Brawl and Smash 4 air dodges are get out of trouble free cards. They're fucking cancer, just like snapping. It's handholding for players that shouldn't have put themselves in bad situations in the first place.
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>>342886073
Male voice means he's male desu...

Plus apparently being based on/is movie mewtwo
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>>342885540
Everyone saying sheik diddy and rosa bullshit because they were insufferable pricks that only brought pain when trying to engage on them while they just played hyperdefensively
But none of them had 0death ladder combos out of anything like bayo did
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>people starting to complain about Mewtwo
topkek
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>>342886201
Shiek ain't that much better to watch.
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Please take this Hyuga.
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>All this mewtwo salt
Stay free.
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>>342886210
>>342886217
>>342886272
>le fair/fthrow to fish
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>>342884874
Every move she has sends at the most perfect angle for a follow-up, also fuck Nair, makes her the most unfun character in doubles.
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>>342886282
Adapt you lazy little shit.
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Why did they kill jiggle's sleep attack so hard in later smash games?
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trump is building the wall as we speak
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Abadango!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ9_iM0CqiM

How would Melee look like?
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>>342886310

brawl was much worst since you could literally cancel hitstun with it and all other attacks.
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>>342886369
>Comparing a situational combo to a cheap grab
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>>342886316
No 0 to death was true, people were just lazy.
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>it's never the player that is good, it's just the character needs a nerf XD

/v/
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>>342886201
I wish I could. He's not real.
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43k viewers...is smash 4 the new king of smash?
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>>342886220
>>342886259
>>342886313
Well that's was not gonna stop me anyways

Now excuse me as i go to that one thread on /trash/
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>>342883750
HOW DOES HE GET DRESSED. It's not like he could get in his shirts the normal way since his head is so fucking big. He would have a better time sliding in his shirt leg first. fucking REEEEEEEE-
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>>342886218

> Le ABA isn't skilled as fuck because he can finish a stock with a throw

> Le upthrow upair fox is the best thing ever
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>>342886258
>Getting hit by PKT2

ahahahahaha
The rest he has to combo into. Why is Ness' up air a issue but Diddy's isn't?
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>>342886556
>getting hit by PKT2

top players get hit by it a lot

do you think you're better?
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>>342886359>>342886327
>>342886369
>Liking a 90% kill throw
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>>342886310
Watch ANTi vs. Mr. R from today or any game with Fatality and you'll see why air dodging is a bad idea.
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>>342885540
1.0.0 Sheik

People don't remember. Sheik's bouncing fish, uair and bair used to be a fuck ton stronger(bouncing fish used to kill like 20-30% earlier) and needles had even less lag than they did before getting nerfed recently. Fair used to be stronger too. You also have to remember that she still had old dthrow too.

1.0.0 Diddy was dumb but Sheik was even dumber, she just wasn't nearly as developed back then as she is now and Diddy was easier to play, so we never got to see how truly retarded Sheik was but we got to quickly see how retarded Diddy was.
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>>342886486
>43k on sunday
>a lot
Tell me when you break Melee's 200k
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>>342886282

> mewtwo is the only one with killthrow
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>>342886443
Absolutely true, it's still cancerous though. It's basically like "fuck your ability to follow up or how close you are to comboing, im getting out for free stay mad :^)".

I'm absolutely fine with trumping too, even as a mainly melee player, but the snap is pure handholding cancer for recoveries that already have retardedly high priority.
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>>342886450
keep telling yourself that senpai. It's not like all her combos treated everyone as if they're have 100 weight or anything.
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>>342886556
SHAD U-air is painful to deal with. Safe on shield, massive hitbox, plus the benefits of the rising sh airdodge.
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>>342886375
Retarded airdodge that's a free outofjail card, retarded nair that leads into everything and wins neutral by itself and a throw that kills at 100 and has one of the best ranges in the game.
Yeah mewtwo is fucking stupid, no wonder Abadango is playing him, fucking chink only play broken characters.
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Mewtwo makes fights hype because he kills and dies super early, and has a lot of hype shit like spikes and risky punishes.
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>>342886556
>why is ness's up air an issue but diddy's isn't

because it kills early and has fucking invincibility
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Hyuga is getting bodied, Tink vs Mewtwo GF dream is dead
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>>342886608
Son those are guesses. Okie situations can go both ways.
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>>342886428
Who is this semen demon?
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>>342886606
melee has ICs where a single grab from any percent is a kill and people adapted

stop being a shitter
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>Zinoto
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>>342886726

TL vs M2 would never happen in Grand Finals, this is Loser's.
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Mewtwo is suddenly god-tier according to /v/
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>>342886631
>without the good players literally nobody cares: the game
melee is a meme
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>>342886316
0 to death required a literally braindead person to succeed. There were tons of videos on how to DI out of all these things.
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>>342886606
>doesn't kill until ~120%, and only when mewtwo has rage

i bet you complained about ness's back throw too, didn't you?
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1000 hours in ____
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>>342886853
Not 2 bad.
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>>342886823
>implying M2 hasn't been retarded since 1.1.5

I'll bet you thought he was still low-tier as of 1.1.3 too.
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>>342885540
HOO HAA
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>>342886742
>guesses
They're called reads and they're in literally every fighting game.
It's not a guess, it's prediction. If you know a player is bad, you can expect a dodge after a chain of hits and wait to punish it.
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>>342886762
And were every viable character can kill you fucking early, meele is not smash4, that's the reason why people bitch about every strong character even when they are not unbeateable (Sheik, Bayo, MK, etc)
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I'm a big fan of Mewtwo but you can't have a good character and give him that upthrow.
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>>342886604
>Alot
No they don't it happens but not a lot. How about not landing near Ness if he is using PKT

>>342886681
>>342886724
Oh no a character has a good move! It's not like Ness has shit ground mobility, subpar range, shit recovery, is easily juggled and gimped, and gets raped by two characters and gets beat by anyone with a sword not named Roy or Shulk.
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>>342886823
It's just people who are bad at the game. Mewtwo is obviously a lot better now, but nowhere near the shitters here are making him out to be.
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>>342886606
Pretty sure his grab also can be crouched by smaller characters along with his combos not being as effective.
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>>342886762
>Comparing sm4sh with melee
>No one complains about wobbling
It´s not like n0ne complained about it 2 days ago.
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>>342883750
wait. Tr4sh has a competitive scene? what are they even doing? Roll into roll?
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>>342886823
>Mewtwo is honest and Abadango is an underdog hero that plays a bad character.
This is what most retards believe.
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>Hyuga thinks he can take Zero
>Cant even beat Zinoto

Toppest kek
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>>342886450
No, the biggest bulllshit was diddy's 0 to 50% surecombo, which became an even bigger threat after glide toss was discovered as it gave him only a 30% range of "even" fight where you could fight back, as you'd be most likely dead from banana glidetoss>hoo-ha at 80~110 or banana glidetoss>[dtilt>slight charge sidesmash/uncharged sidesmash] anywhere from ~110 or further, yet it had no ladder combo at any%

>>342886826
And bayonettas could just as easily read and or react to that DI and continue the free combo
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>>342887093
all I said was Ness took 0 effort to get kills, which is true. I didn't say he was the best character

calm down ness kiddy

>gets raped by anyone with a sword not named roy or shulk

he beats everyone who's not cloud and maybe MK
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>>342887178
>implying zero > zinoto
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>>342887031
50/50 reads are literally a guess son, im not even gonna argue this. You either guess the right timing or dont. A read would be running up and knowing someones gonna stay in shield and not jump/roll/wavedash/attack or spotdodge to stop you, it's more options than a fucking faggoty okie.
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>>342887178
Zinoto is better than Zero
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>>342887178
Zinoto has a better Diddy than ZeRo.
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>>342887178
I mean, Zinoto is better than Zero.
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>>342887163
>le honest meme
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>>342887178
zinoto is better than zero at this point tbqh
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>>342887178
can't undersell Zinoto, this guy's definitely amazing.
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>>342887142
low tier bait
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>>342887072

Corrin
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>>342886675
There's a vid on youtube, about a guy talking about how to DI as every character especially Fox since Fox has the hardest time DI Bayonetta.

It was possible and probable. You needed to be lazy or retarded to get caught in the death combo.
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>>342887178
guess who's placed higher?
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should i move to orlando or will i get shot?
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>>342887163
there are only 2 mewtwos in top 64 and both of them have been top players since brawl you shitter
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>>342886675
>What is DI?
Bayonetta had a lot of confirms that were hard to escape and killed at 60%+, the 0 to death wasn't, it was people just being bad.
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>>342887378
Do you smoke cocks?
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yes, hyuga
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>>342887072
Without rage it takes like 120% to kill light characters
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REVERSE 3-0
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>chink
wow....... just wow.......
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>>342887378
You're a nigger.
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>>342887378
if you don't want to get shot you shouldn't live in america
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>>342887095
When Mewtwo shits on people it looks broken because his offense is insane. But people forget that his neutral is mediocre against characters with disjointed hitboxes, his strong moves have decent lag and he weighs almost as little as Puff.
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>>342887445
Character representation means shit, by that logic prepatch Bayo was bad cause the only shitter that was getting results was pink fresh and the only one that got a top8 at a national.
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>>342885540
Greninja

Not even memeing, his Shadow Sneak cancel was OP.
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>>342887540
(You)

a couple mass shootings a year and britbongs act like this shit happens every day
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>>342887163
What is "honest character"? and do you seriously believe people still think mewtwo is a bad character?
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>>342887643
That's two mass shootings a year more than in any other civilized country
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>>342887643
it does?
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>>342887643
If you define mass shooting as 4 people shot or more, it literally happened every day on average in America in 2015.
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>>342887643
>a couple mass shootings a year
>a couple
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>>342887226
>I know nothing about Ness the post

Ok
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>>342887631
and this is why we will never get melee rest back.
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REST IN PEACE
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Where there any good ness or lucas's at CEO?
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Hyuga just got deported.
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FUCK YEAH ZINOTO
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>>342887984
FOW.
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>>342887226
Rosa literally invalidates him.
If you have a decent Rosa in your pocket, you'll never have to worry about him.
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>>342887226
>He beats everyone who's not Cloud and maybe MK

1. Imo he beats Cloud

2. Rosa exists.
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>>342887591
So random shitters on /v/ are the judge to what is and isn't broken?
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BLM > illegal shitskins

BUILD THAT FUCKING WALL
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>>342887643
>britbongs are the only people outside the US

amerilard logic
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>>342887984
FOW played out of his mind.
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SAVE US ABADONGO
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TRUMP | Zinoto
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i got 385th at CEO ama
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>>342888149
are you Trela
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>Entire match screeching to a halt when someone pulls up their shield because shield pressure is none existent in this game
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RIP Abadango
Last time he got shit on by both Zero's and Zinoto's Diddy
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SAVE US ANTI
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>>342888142
A true american hearo.
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>>342887967
>oh fuck, he countered my points. I better ignore it and directly criticize him

>>342888079
>>342888074
what the fuck, do you kids not read? It said characters with a sword

Yeah rosalina is a hard counter but she's the best character in the game and I never said ness was top 5 or anything
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>>342888149
How did Jade's dick taste
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>>342888149
what's your fursona?
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>>342888190
yes.

DROP RYU NOW HE'S OVERRATED AS FUUUUUCK
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META KNIGHT
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>>342888079
Cloud shits all over him, Ness struggles hard against range any character that can keep him away beats him like the sword fighters
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>>342887723
You would be surprised at the amount of retards that still think that Mew2 is not top 10, almost as many as the retards that believe that Mario isn't top 5.
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Anti is a fucking fag, you can't just cheese matchups vs. DaBased
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>>342888249
You have no idea of what you're talking about.
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[BORB INTENSIFIES]
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How good is ANTi's Borb?
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>>342888249
The point is that it's the hardest matchup in the entire game and Ness is not that good.
You know who the best Ness player lost to at this tourney? A fucking Mega Man, and not even the best one.
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please make grand finals aba vs anti
please make grand finals aba vs anti
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>>342888149
Would you fuck a Charizard?
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>tfw this game opted for 2 stock meta
>tfw this game opted for no customs meta
it's not fucking fair
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redpill me on the mario-rosa matchup
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