Anyone else feel sad that visual novels will never become a thing in the west? like for companies to bring it over
>>342877531
Why did they use fan translators anyway. Retards.
>we aren't profitting because we're shit with money and paid too much for a translation
>THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT YOU SHITS
uh, is this guy retarded?
Maybe you should make an actual game and not a VN.
nah
no one cares because they're not fucking video games
literally
visual
novels
Honestly I wish they would bring over more r-18 BL visual novels... all the american ones have not one good bachelor
>>342877531
Wow what a surprise....
Only NEET's play VN's and guess what, they can barely pay for food, much less for games. They will pirate it, they won't pay for shit. Stop pandering for a parasitic audience.
>people complain about walking simulators when VNs exist
>>342877531
>visual NOVELS
>video games
>muh respect
Being naive fucked them, not the market itself. Also, fan translator should do it mostly for free since that's what they do normally.
>>342878540
The difference is that VNs don't pretend to be games
THEY NEED TO PUT FUCKING DENUVO IN IT. ITS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE FUCKING NEETs SUPPORT THEIR HOBBIES
When you have things like TellTales games and things like Oxenfree or Firewatch nowadays, you can consider that VNs are basically outdated.
>>342877531
they are a thing, but all the western vns are cringy shit made for furfags.
>>342878637
Then why are they listed as games on Steam?
>>342878540
well, you have an impact on the story in most good VNs
>>342878540
Nobody claims VNs are high art and that video games need to be more like them in order to "grow up."
>>342878739
Because Steam is shit.
>>342877531
>We paid above market value
So what did you do in order to make sure your game made above market value profit? You did nothing?
Out of respect for you, I'm not going to call you a retard who is bad with money but don't try and blame other people when you're a retard who is bad with money.
only anti-piratefags complain about this.
Let's be fair here
G-senjou was one of the worst vn ever made, so there nothing surprising about people not wanting to buy it
VNs are not video games
they are digital picture books for the intellectually challenged
No. Almost every VN doesn't tell an interesting story - it focuses mainly on romance bullshit.
>>342877531
Only VN I've ever played was katawa shoujo desu
>>342877531
>Anyone else feel sad that visual novels will never become a thing in the west?
FUCK NO. I'm glad Americans don't like to read or else they'll fucking ruin another Japanese genre with their sjw shit.
>>342878961
>you're stupid if you read books
Neo-/v/, everyone.
>>342879105
More like always /v/
>>342877531
NEET culture is much different between the US and Japan.
In Japan, NEETs are still taken care of by their family and given money by their parents to buy things. Moreover, there's an entire culture of hikikomori's who make money at work but then hole themselves up the rest of the time. What do you think they spend money on?
Not to mention the enormous moe anime culture that helps to fuel visual novel sales. See how the style of most VN's has changed over the years? From "sexy women" to moe cute girls? It's not a coincidence.
>make visual novel
>spend most the budget on the opening cutscene with generic anime song
>photoshop 5 real life photos to look like anime backdrops
>draw 10 forward facing portraits and edit their faces slightly to create cast
>draw a couple cgs and edit them slightly in order to create thousands of pictures for the gallery viewer
>use the most basic programming knowledge to connect them together
>charge $40 or more even outside of Japan and market the game to otakus
Literally the scummiest video game practice out there. At least with all the other scummy practices going on right now you get real content for what you pay for.
>>342879031
I've played a couple VNs that I liked pretty well
Steins;Gate and Monster Girl Quest were fun
Honestly, if G-Senjou didn't have such a retarded explanation for the antagonist, I'd probably have bought it. But I'm actually kind of angry at it.
That said, it seems rather strange to me to localize paying above market value for a fan translation for a VN that isn't really popular. Outside of people that already read it, I guess most people don't care about it.
>>342878962
it's almost as if that what's the main demographic wants
>>342879105
did you not read the post?
he's implying that vns are special made books for the intellectually challenged
>>342878540
The difference is that Walking simulators get awarded as full immersive gaming experience
Visual novels are literally treated as Visual novels and nothing else
>>342878559
that an eye?
>>342879440
VNs have more words than books on average and definitely do not have a kindergarten reading level.
>>342879360
>photoshop 5 real life photos to look like anime backdrops
HOL UP
does it include >that pool
becasue if it doesn't it's not worth a single penny
>>342878810
>Steam is shit.
oh EA, someday your shitty distribution model might work, maybe.
How much money could it take to make a VN? It's literally a story with some pictures and the easiest possible thing somebody could ever code.
>>342879654
VN writing is often manga/comics level, which is not bad.
>>342879662
you'll see it it nukige
>>342878540
No one defends VNs as the second coming of Christ like walking simulators. You won't read any praise from Kotaku or Polygon, they are too busy promoting their friends' games.
>VNs
If I wanted to read graphomania I'd go to fanfiction.com
>>342879360
>the writing part doesn't count and isn't content
and again it's not a game, it's a digital picturebook and isn't pretending otherwise
>>342879779
>which is not bad.
>>342878662
>TellTale inspires a new brand of VN
>Your waifu will remember that.
>>342879654
i guess that depends on the vn i guess
those i've read, often has mediocre writing, going in spirals or breaking the 4th wall in the most awkward ways. and the amount of text doesn't really matter since i've had vn take their time explaining trivial things that aren't relevant to the story.
i'm not trying to defend that other guys opinion btw, but some vns have very lackluster writing below the level of regular books
>>342877531
The people who are the market for VN's have been reading them for ages, mostly for free.
You're going to need to offer some sort of incentive for people to actually buy them and a high price is not one of them.
>>342878139
You should check out Blackgate.
VN are already dying in japan anyway.
>>342878662
Walking sim are just much less efficient VN, I wouldn't call them better.
I wouldn't mind if some books were completely VN-ified.
Why do they charge such high prices for fucking VNs in the first place? That Kindred Spirits VN looked interesting but it's fucking $35. Shit's just not a good value.
>>342879772
If it's voice acted, it's actually quite expensive.
But otherwise, no, they are generally inexpensive to produce which is why it's alright if they only pull a couple thousand sales. That's still a profit for the developers.
>>342879990
t. "intellectual" /lit/fag
>>342879931
Then the price should be $5-$15 tops to reflect that. Because they are overcharging intentionally in order to scum money off of otaku like they do for anime bluray they'll never have a global market. Its literally their own fault. There are a couple visual novels on steam I would have bought if the prices were reasonable. But visual novels are low content and incredibly easy to program yet outrageously priced.
That kind of marketing is so short sighted.
>>342880381
They're even more expensive in Japan but loser otakus eat them up anyway.
>>342880381
It's one of the few not shit tier yuri vn, so for me it was worth it's money
>>342879772
Drawing good looking characters and backgrounds takes money and time to hire someone who can do it. Otherwise you end up with deviant art level shit. Then you have to hire VAs if you want it voiced which usually end up being the biggest cost. Then you need someone to edit your story. Also some game engines require you to buy a license to use it and someone to code things up for it.
Since it is a niche market the sales aren't that great and so you are unlikely to make much out of it.
>>342879654
more words ≠good writing
The majority of VNs definitely have a quantity over quality policy when it comes to their writing and much of the text is very insipid, anime-tier dialogue
>>342880205
Some of the better known VNs have decent writing but there's a metric fuckton of them that just attempt to pander and have absolutely juvenile writing.
Even worse is the incredibly popular light novel market in Japan. Very typically these works are incredibly juvenile with shallow manga-esque plots and awful dialogue, yet people eat them up.
In both mediums there are some standouts that are very much worth your time, of course.
>>342877531
Actually, I'm glad that those non-games flop hard over here, apart those that are massively backed by the Tumblrd/dA crowd
>paying money for a fan translation that's been available for free for years
Did they really think this would work out for them?
>>342880960
i think most of the VNs i've read has had something along the lines of "that would only happen in a visual novel or manga. but this is real life, haha" near the beginning, and it's awful
>>342877531
nope because they aren't games, instead of turning a page you are just clicking a mouse button.
>>342877531
No because I actually want GAMEPLAY in my VIDEO GAMES!
>>342880960
I absolutely hate with a passion any visual novel that insists on slowly and painstakingly introducing every single character that will ever be in the game for more than three sentences near the beginning of the game before anything actually happens
>>342878540
HA JOKES ON YOU
YOU DONT WALK ON VNS YOU JUST READ A STORY
Walking simulators dont even stories have,
its aways like
>oh there is a rock on your vagina
>it can mean something or it cannot
>follow the child voice
>follow the light
>the light can mean something
>or not
>who cares
>>342881232
Not just that, but it also having less content since it cuts out the H-scenes.
>>342877531
Will Sekai Project go bankrupt already?
>>342881676
Knowing their history?
No
>>342881676
I feel they would just set up another company and do more kickstarters even if they did go bankrupt.
I have no problems with visual novels but if you can't make a profit from them then though shit. Most visual novels are made up by pretty simple backgrounds and some text with some characters pasted in. This should not have to cost a fortune to make, so if you can't make a profit then people are not buying your game or you are terrible with money or maybe both.
>>342877531
I've never even heard of that game, perhaps they need to actually advertize if they want to have a profit. Being passive aggressive will only make me less likely to spend money
>>342881670
Holy shit. How did not even one person on the team think for a minute that this wasn't a good idea?
>>342881854
>>342881865
They stated they've been going in the red for several years and still are.
>>342877531
Steins gate is on sale on ps4
It's not a thing because they usually suck
>>342881998
Before founding their current company they scammed developers in japan
You can be sure that this guys not in the red
>tfw bought Root Double (kind of disappointed, only Route A delivered) and Fata Morgana (fucking awesome) in May
Feels good.
>>342882119
That didn't come out on ps4 you memer
>>342881998
>believing what dovac says on twitter
They use kickstarter for about 80% of their projects which should have them at least break even. Then they have all the Sakura series games which they publish and will get a cut from.
They stealth released a VN using an existing fan translation.
>>342877531
What the fug? I had no idea G-senjou had a western release.
the only visual novel that would ever be worth buying in history is Sengoku Rance
>>342877531
>guy who spams steam with all those sakura titles
>whining on twit about not making money off a no-name VN
If you're losing money after throwing tits literally everywhere you could think of, maybe it's time to consider you're just a shitty businessman?
>>342882546
Rance isn't a VN dingus
>>342882469
He says the same onIRCthough.
>>342877531
>licensing a fantranslated game
I will never understand this. EVERYONE ALREADY PLAYED IT YOU RETARDS. Bring something across that people haven't already read you idiots.
>>342877531
Soon, bros.
Machine translation will make it and localization costs will be a thing of the past.
>>342882804
It's really made a lot of progress. One day we might actually be able to use machine translations and have it not be total shit.
>>342882502
It is worse than the fan translated version. No porn and the 16:9 CGs are cropped. All it really got was an extra edit through the translation which was fine already.
>>342877531
I really hope Sekai just fucking dies already.
>>342880338
>VN are already dying in japan anyway.
Are you retarded?
There are departments in most major game stores dedicated solely to VNs.
There are even entire shelves for otoge alone.
As an example, the vita is only alive in Japan because theyre pumping out so many VNs for it.
>>342883048
>No porn
>16:9 CGs are cropped
And he's complaining that he hasn't made a profit? lol what a retard.
>>342883261
My god I have a bunch of their games on steam but they're all such fags.
>>342882789
With the right VN it can still make some money.
Pretty sure if F/SN was put up on kickstarter it would make just as much if not more.
>>342883616
Fate is a ridiculously well-known franchise comparatively. Just the anime-only people alone would make it work.
You'd see most of the backers shocked someone made a VN out of the show.
>Waste tons of money re-translating a VN that was translated YEARS ago, that everyone that was interested in already read.
>"WOW WHY DIDN'T WE MAKE ANY FUCKING MONEY?"
>>342877531
VNs are becoming a thing, but only meme VNs with a lot of ecchi/H scenes will. Actual VNs like G-Senjou or Gahkthun are destined to bomb. I wouldn't be surprised if Muv-Luv bombs too in spite of the mass of plebs who call it a masterpiece.
>>342883616
>Pretty sure if F/SN was put up on kickstarter
This would have to have the backing of financially secure company. I can't even imagine how much money it would cost to bring the Fate VN over to the west. The fact that no one has tried it yet makes me believe its just not possible. Fate without a doubt is the most well known VN in the world.
It's much more profitable to create walking simulators than traditional VNs.
>>342877531
Most VN's are a fucking borefest. It's just sex and romance yadda yadda yadda.. Then the fucking lame fan service. Maybe if Japan or indie devs push the limit of actually adding original content to VN's maybe people would be more open to that.
>>342877531
>let me release a game that's already been translated for years, and have the gall to sell it for $40
and then they wonder why it didn't make a profit
How about RELEASING UNTRANSLATED VN's instead of shit people already went through years ago!
>>342883616
>F/SN on kickstarter
Type-Moon is making so much money off F/GO that the idea of this is more trouble than it's worth.
>>342884190
I am more surprised Type Moon just haven't done it themselves now a few Jap companies like Key and Frontwing are bringing their games over now. It would basically be free money for them.
>>342877531
G-Senjou didn't pull a profit because they pulled this shit.
>>342877531
>mfw the anime games on steam bubble is already bursting.
>>342884429
Don't forget slap on some DRM too.
>>342878540
Most VNs have more gameplay than walking simulators.
>>342884708
That's because only the shit anime games are on there.
>>342884401
You know as well as I do that if actually original VNs like Forest, Inganock, Dies Irae, etc. were localized they would sell like shit.
>VN's on console
Why the fuck do they think it'd sell on there? G-senjou had some really nice h-scenes too, those would never get on console.
>>342877531
VNs are shit
>>342877531
They used to be if you remember Hirameki International. There just isn't enough advertising.
>>342884671
Wait
It was DUBBED?
>>342884708
More like people are boycotting Sekai Project.
>>342884805
No they don't you fucking deluded weeb, most VNs are straight walls of text until you reach the 3 or 4 multiple choice quizzes that determine your ending
Huge branching pathways and actual gameplay systems are by far the exception, not the norm
>>342885041
Are you retarded?
>>342878540
Walking Simulator is a genre
VN is a presentation style
That's like saying >people complain about MMOs when text-based games exist
>>342878739
Most people aren't particularly concerned with the proper terminology my dimwitted friend.
>translate garbage bargain bin vns nobody gives a shit about
>still no fate stay night
Why wouldn't they do babby's first VN? Even if it was a kickstarter it would do crazy, even better than muv luv. If it's too expensive show me proofs
>>342885041
No you chode. They just charged more for a version with voices on. It's ridiculous
>>342885041
No.
Voiceless has no voices at all.
Voiced has the JP voices.
Since it didn't do well then don't expect them to ever separate them again.
They have been a thing for ages and in the past 3 years the western audience and official translations have only been growing. You just dont know what you are talking about, next you are telling me that you dont even own a physical copy of starless and THEN you are going to tell me that you want one of my riesens you little shit.
>>342885175
I would definitely consider G-senjou a babby's first. If that bombed then they have absolutely zero chance with something else.
>>342885193
>Since it didn't do well then don't expect them to ever separate them again.
Nah, it obviously has nothing to do with the poor sales, they just won't pay the translators next time.
>>342885113
>>342885179
>>342885193
Oh wait I'm retarded I didn't notice the voice DLC was 50% off too.
I just saw it as
>Voice-less $20
>Voiced $40
>Voice DLC $10
And went
>Why the fuck would I buy voiced when I could buy voiceless and dlc for 30?
>>342877531
>tfw Sekai Project will die in your lifetime
>>342885175
>Why wouldn't they do babby's first VN
This is kind of funny. Years ago we joked that Tsukihime was babby's first VN. I'm getting old guys.
>>342885309
And how did any of that lead you to think the VN was dubbed?
>>342877531
No, because I am not dependent on video games to fill in for my social interactions like some sociopath
>>342885087
This
Someone at Sekai Project did a twitter poll asking if people wanted Eushully games. The optiins were "yes," "no," and "stop ruining VNs" with the latter getting the majority
>>342885438
>JP voiced edition $40
>Shit english dub $10 cheaper
This was my thought process
>>342885472
>galge are the only VNs that exiat
>>342884527
They don't need to when Fate/Grand Order is a Rank EX Money Printing Noble Phantasm.
>People unironically defending VNs
Play a real game, faggots.
>>342885616
I don't speak moonrune, go outside
>>342885664
Why are the nips so gullible to mobile shit like that and Granblue?
>All these VN's
>All these fetish based RPG maker games
>All these fart and giant fetish """games"""
>Still no pure foot fetish VN
>>342885809
Because they spend 3/4th of their life in a train commuting and Japanese college students just rake in free money from their parents who pay for everything
>>342885513
I bet dovac actually put the third choice to see how many people were hating on them.
I wonder how hard Maitetsu is gonna tank desu.
>>342885427
>Years ago we joked that Tsukihime was babby's first VN
Doesn't have the anime to back it up so most new people gravitate to Fate with all the recent and old adaptations.Especially since people deny the Tsukihime anime exists.
>>342877531
>Translate a VN that's praised for its twist and also one of the first recommendations for people getting into the genre.
>Literally everyone who reads VN has already played it or got it spoiled because VN fags are literally fucking faggots raped by their uncle so they can't let people enjoy things.
It's their fault, should have translated something popular like the new Grisaia or something people want like Bunny black 3.
What I want to know is why vns are so goddamn expensive I mean they can't be that hard to make, right?
>>342886103
Maeda's music is expensive
>Still no Gore Screaming Show translation.
>No 3Days translation
>VN fanbase is typically violently opposed to the removal of H-scenes
>They also are a market that pirates everything and have already read it
>The only people who will buy this are newcomers but steam is so flooded with garbage indie nobody knows that this was actually good or popular.
>Sekai project licenses literally anything they can get their hands on, so nobody's sold on the localization company
There were so many signs
>>342880960
Jesus fuck, what VNs have you played?
>>342885809
They have cute girls
>>342886081
They did translate the sequel to Grisaia and it just got released. Too bad they censored some of the dirty jokes and there isn't a 18+ plus patch you can get yet.
>>342883616
People didn't pay that much for the VNs, the Muv-Luv kickstarter had a huge amount of goodies going with it. I can't imagine they even made that much money after all their expenses.
>>342886424
>censored some of the dirty jokes and there isn't a 18+ plus patch
So it's dead on arrival
>>342886103
>Initial release date: April 28, 2004
>first English translation: 2012-06-07
>Steam Release Date: Nov 23, 2015
>50 American dollarydoos
>>342878637
Then why do you people keep posting them on the video game board?
Checkmate weebfag. Pack your shit and get the fuck out.
Protip: This guy is the CEO of sekai project, a company that has had literally more than ten successful kickstarters, some for over a million dollars.
I have trouble feeling sympathy for him when mangagamer and jast can fucking manage to put out games(and also not rip out their porn) with having to make millions of dollars off kickstarter.
>>342880021
i feel like i haven't seen this picture in years
Nope, I'd rather play video games.
>>342886274
doesn't maeda own key
>No Sister Scheme translation
>>342877531
Persona is basically a VN half the time.
>>342877531
nigga books are not video games try playing a real game
G-Senjou is fucking trash and a console port would just censor the only aspect of it that's even remotely worth reading so why should I give a fuck?
If they're going to pay extra to fantranslators to not be cheap cunts then they should make sure you do it for a game that isn't shit next time.
>>342886081
>popular like the new Grisaia
Grisaia was flavour of the season, the anime turned to shit once it got past the common route and everyone stopped watching it. The only people still interested in the VN are people who read all of the first part and they're the people who would have backed the kickstarter
Sekai are massively incompetent though and have released part 2 with a butchered all-ages version and no signs of the 18+ patch that they originally promised during the original kickstarter.
That and part 2 and 3 are shit.
>>342885701
Of course, I just bought Gone Home and The Stanley Parable on sale. Time for culturally enriched games with compelling plots and emotionally-skilled gameplay. Later I'll go play Uncharted 4 on my Playstation 4 Console for a true cinematic gaming experience. :^)
>>342886028
>Localise a famous lolige from the makers of Monobeno
>Censor it
Maitetsu is gonna tank like nothing before. Especially since I hear the licensing costs were huge.
>>342886103
>I mean they can't be that hard to make, right?
Go ahead, try to make one interesting enough for people to buy it.
There's more effort into these games than shit like Kirby games.
Can't be that hard?
That's a shame. G-senjou no maou was great when I read it in my mid teens years ago. Would recommend it.
>>342886081
>Grisaia
The second one recently came out and the third is still meant to be coming at some point.
>Bunny black 3
Aroduc still may do it some point down the line, just not any time soon since he needs someone to do some hacking work on it and he has been having trouble with finding people who can/will do stuff like that.
>>342885028
Fuck Hirameki, they were even worse than Sekai Project. Do you remember their DVD Play bullshit?
>chian
whine more
>>342886712
Fuck off retard
>releasing half a decade old fan translation
>censored
>expecting profit
I've read Ixrec translation when it was fresh, why the fuck would i buy it now.
Stop re-releasing old VNs you fucks, do some real work.
>>342886636
>JRPGs are basically a VN 75% of the time with baby tier menu based combat for retards with baby tier stat progression for the rest
FTFY
>>342886694
>Especially since I hear the licensing costs were huge
Really proof? Also I heard from a friend the game itself is pretty shit in term of story.Though who gives a shit, people play it for the lolis. Which are getting censored to oblivion.
>>342886917
No.
>>342879687
Found the Steam cuck.
Get ready for the next gaben charity race cucky.
I really fucking hope Sekai Project doesnt fuck up world end economica, I need more economics and waifus in life......or did they fuck it up already? Waiting for all the parts to be released and pick them up in a bundle
>>342877531
>Let's publish VNs in the west!
>Okay, let's start with a shitty one!
>One that everyone already read because it's been translated for ages!
>I'm sure the thing that was free up until now will sell like hotcakes!
>Oh and don't forget to pay above market value to the fan translators!
>Oh fuck, it's not selling!
>Let's whine on Twitter!
>Don't forget to admit we have no clue how to do our job or business in general!
>And blame the fans!
>>342886636
like many JRPGs persona would be better if it was just a VN, the "gameplay" is awful
>Sekai Project
>>342877531
no. who gives a shit about VN?
>>342886558
>and also not rip out their porn
Does Sekai Project not sell the uncensored versions outside of Steam like the other publishers do?
>>342886975
/jp/ was talking about it a few weeks ago, I don't remember anything more specific. But there are a lot of people on /jp/ who work in the industry and share things.
>>342886810
I know the translator is planning to do Bunny black 3 but he literally said he's tired of the franchise and hacking BB3 is different than the other 2 or something.
>so I hope y'all are happy
maybe if you weren't retarded about how to run a business you wouldn't be in this situation where you feel like you have to blame the fans for spending more money then you should have.
I don't even know what this thread is about but jesus fuck there's nothing I hate more than people acting sassy when they fucked up because it's the only way they can deflect the fact that it's all their fault.
>>342886103
Don't bring Key into this, his games are like 3000 hours long and make you cry a lot.
>>342887064
They have porn company on the side called denpasoft but they don't really give a shit about it, so uncensored releases come way later, if they even do.
G-Senjou never came.
Official Rance translations when?
>>342886513
>>first English translation: 2012-06-07
Are you sure? I'm certain I played the VN back in 2009 though I skipped After Story.
>>342885175
T-M just doesn't care
>>342887235
Fuck Key, literal one key tone hacks.
>>342877531
>Anyone else feel sad that visual novels will never become a thing in the west?
No.
Visual novels are really boring for the vast majority of people so only a tiny niche audience buys them.
I don't care if they stop producing them, becuase they never innovate at all or push the medium forward.
>>342887064
The adult stuff is supposed to be put back in with an 18+ patch which is hosted on their website, however all I've heard with Grisaia part 2 is that there's no timelime for when that will actually be released.
Generally their schedules are a complete mess and rarely ever followed
>>342887316
>Skipped After Story
Why even read it then?
>>342887316
Just posted the first English date listed on VNDB.
>>342877531
Translation: We fucked up and paid way more for the translation than we should have and we're trying to save face.
>>342887037
can't wait for the all-ages version of this
>>342877531
Maybe if they didn't charge an extra $20 for fucking voice acting, it'd sell more.
Visual novels fucking suck. I honestly don't see the appeal. Read a book or play an Interactive Experienceâ„¢. Visual novels incorporate the worst of both of those activities.
>>342886059
Wouldn't Narcissu or Planetarian be babby's first VN? Short and questionable quality
>>342886513
And it was still sold like a hot cakes
Because it was good
And pretty sure I played it in the 2010
>>342877531
>we overpaid them and its your fault
>>342878540
The only difference between a walking simulator and a visual novel is that the walking simulator gets awards for its story.
They're both fine genres and acting elitist about one and putting down the other is fucking retarded.
>>342887465
You are seeing it.
>>342887316
>skipping after story
You do realize that that's pretty much the game's main story right?
>>342877531
Okay? So people didn't buy it. What's he pissed about? People aren't obligated to buy your product. Like yeah you being passive aggressive toward those of us who haven't bought it is really gonna get me to do it.
>>342877903
This
>>342887313
BUY THAT ONE VN.
>>342887489
>planetarian
>questionable quality
Are you kidding? It's fantastic, and as a beginner VN it's one of the best you can read.
>>342887443
I think the patch came out after Clannad anime aired, but before After Story aired.
It was right after the translation finished, but before QC had finished. As far as I know QC never actually finished.
>>342887316
>skipped after story
Why would you be content after all that ugu sugoi haremshit and then not start the actual story?
>>342887603
>What's he pissed about?
That people didn't buy it.
>>342877531
>we suck at our job and it's your fault
>EOPs
lol
>>342887879
>EOP
>Implying I don't speak French
>>342887785
Then he's dumb.
Why are people shitting on G-senjou no maou? I thought it was breddy gud. Certainly a fantastic entry level piece.
>If ever 17 were translated today people would shit on it too.
>>342878540
VNs take effort with branching storylines
usually
Some even have puzzles.
>>342887431
>>342887746
>>342887571
I ended up watching the anime instead since it was airing around that time and revisited the VN years later.
That and I played it using PSP homebrew so After Story didn't work at the time.
>>342888007
this is because your taste is bad, not our fault
The VN market will never be sustainable in the West. There's over a dozen that gets released every month in Japan and even more if you count the ones that are for "porn only".
Among all of those, who's to say which ones deserve a translation or not and which will actually be profitable?
Saya no Uta is babby's first VN
>>342888007
Because it got popular.
>>342888007
Elitist contrarianism probably. I thought it was a good gateway VN as well.
>>342888007
Everything translated is entry level.
>>342888007
Because "MUH ENTRY LEVEL POPULAR VNS ARE SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" autism.
>>342888007
>It's a 999 ripoff
>>342881990
This. Uncensoring h-scenes is the only thing people care about those western releases.
Not really. VN just seem like a waste of time.
>>342888241
>>It's a 999 ripoff
Holy shit I can imagine.
>>342888135
Have you read it?
>That company that localized "If My Heart Had Wings"
Has anyone fucked up as bad, yet?
>sell VNs which are known for their sexual content on a christian digital distribution platform
>probably have no clue that censorship is a big no-no for the niche audience that likes these type of games
>charge high prices for it
>most of the good games have already been translated by fans for free
>be surprised that it doesn't sell well
>>342877531
Have other VNs on steam pulled profit?
>>342888609
Yes.
wasn't sekai project that fan group that was doing school days back in the day? i didn't realize they went legit
>>342888168
>Saya no Uta is babby's first VN
Because it doesn't have enough choices?
>>342887074
If that's true I hope it tank so hard dovac becomes a hobo.
>>342877531
>try to sell some mildy obscure vn that already had a fan translation since forever
>everyone that ever gave a shit about already played it hears ago
>surprised it didnt sell well
I enjoyed at the time but cmon, thats just being retarded. What about selling a vn that hasnt already been translated years ago?
To be fair a Visual novel has to have some semblance of game play and a unique art-stile to make most westerners even glance art it.
I watch tons of anime but i dont think i ever played a VN that dint have at lest some game play.
Such as Utavarerumono, Tears of Tiara Phoenix Wright series, Danganrompa 1 and 2 zero escape games.
You have to ask yourself.
Why would someone who can get anime fro free on the internet vilingy spend money on something that basically looks like generic anime only its not even animated its just text voices and still images.
I think VN makers should at lest try and use non generic art stiles.
>>342888645
Well then the issue is clearly not with the VNs or the VN market but G-senjou itself, or its localization process.
>>342888168
YMK is babby's first VN
katawa shoujo is faggot's first VN
umineko is good guy's first VN
kana imouto is my nigga's first VN
>>342888714
No, because it was literally one of /v/'s babby's first VNs, together with YMK.
>>342888162
>Among all of those, who's to say which ones deserve a translation or not and which will actually be profitable?
Play them and check fan forums to see the reception? Most weebs buy anything with cute girls in it and porn and if it turns out to also have an entertaining story it will certainly be a hit in the west as well but the biggest mistake is trying to sell it like they sell it in Japan. Virtual released only VN shouldn't cost more than 15 bucks.
I like choose your own adventure games. Actions actually matter to the story
>>342888714
No because it's likely to be your first VN due to
-Popularity
-Not shit
-Fairly unique
-Translated
etc
>>342888523
Unfortunately, yes
Writing is bad
Characters don't make any sense "lol I'm the genius highscooler who works on the Yakuza" "lol I can have sex with my sister, just trolling she isn't blood related:)))))"
And let's not forget how main villain just disappear from the plot in every route except one
>>342888609
Steins;Gate was hugely profitable supposedly but that was mostly thanks to PS3/Vita sales.
>>342877531
No because I'm not an EOP cuck
>>342887037
I'm not familiar with this vn. Name?
>>342888821
1.-It was localized by Sekai project
2.-They removed the porn (even though it's not that important to the story, it's a mystery VN)
3.-They never released the porn patch.
4.-The game is old and everyone played it already.
>>342888764
>Why would someone who can get anime fro free on the internet vilingy spend money
Crunchyroll.txt
>>342888931
>>342888834
So is being baby's first VN bad or no?
>sekai project
There's your problem.
VN is already a fucking niche market, it's sad to admit but consider more troughly which games to bring, and if they are already fantranslated just fucking think twice, most potential buyers would've already read it by then.
>>342889056
No, both SnU and YMK are bretty gud.
>>342888714
Because it's 4 hours long and easy to digest for the western market.
>When you finally see how little Saya actually is.
She's like 10 dude.
>>342889032
Does Sekai have a history of issues with localization?
>>342889056
No, it's mainly a phrase used to take the piss out of someone.
