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If you want to play a Mario RPG, just play Mario and Luigi.
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Are there any other examples of a series that is held hostage by one game?
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Did someone actually say that?
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>>342877194
Sadly yes.
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>>342877194
Yep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlcNubU6bYA
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>>342877043
Metroid.
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>>342877370
She looks young and cute...too bad game is gonna be shit
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>>342877370
Fuck.

I was hoping it was just a meme.
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>>342877370
>we already have mario platformers, therefore we shouldn't make any donkey kong, wario land, or kirby platformers anymore
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>>342877370
You're going to buy her game right /v/? You wouldn't want her to cry, would you?
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>>342878118
That's not the same thing because those are different IP. It would be like "Why have Super Mario Land series whe we have Super Mario Bros series" Same reason why Dobkey Kong Land is kill.
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>>342878118
Well they don't make Wario Land anymore
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>>342876915

I'm ok with that, the new Paper Mario games are great.
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How popular are the M&L games these days?
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>>342878118
>Calling Kirby a Mario Platformer

kekitykekity kek PM fags will grasp at straws to get their TTYD2
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>>342878175
No I'm not. Yes I want her to cry. I can get off on that.
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Guys I was just playing PMTTYD and holy fuck I just got a partner by doing an optional quest.
I sure didn't expect that.
Since I have 3 suns and I'm about to start chapter 5, should I upgrade her or that bob-omb first.
I'd guess the bob-omb is the best choice for now, but who knows.
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>>342876915
>tfw you've never played a Paper Mario game and love the Mario & Luigi series anyway
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>>342880084
Upgrade Bobbery first, he's going to be a lot more useful.
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>>342880084
Ms Mowz isn't that good except if you are facing defense heavy enemies. I literally only used her to steal badges/items in the pit of 100 trials. So upgrade bobbery instead since he gets a really powerful area attack
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>>342877804

You should watch the demonstration it's pretty good and the dialogue is actually pretty funny. Unlike TTYD
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>>342880672
>>342880752
That's what I thought.
What a fun game.
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>>342880772
Not using the bowser image anymore, pretendo?
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>>342876915
But aren't Mario and Luigi games also moving away from more standard RPG conventions, but rather going for more memorable individual encounters?
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>>342880084
Upgrade the bomb, Ms. Mowz is only useful for one thing. Fapping.
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>>342880873
Preautist was exposed yesterday Anon
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>>342880873

Who the fuck are you talking about?
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>>342876915
>>342877306
>>342877804
>>342878175
>>342877370
Leave Tabata-san alone you fucking retarded manchildren. You're just taking what she said out of context. It's clear that she is passionate and has put a lot of effort into this game.
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>>342881367
Even if effort is put into something that doesn't necessarily mean it's good.
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>>342881461
Are you saying this game is bad? Have you played it?
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>>342881969
Well if you've played sticker star, you have played this game.
Besides, how can you tell the game is good? Have you played it?
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>>342877306
>>342877370
That's not what she said.
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>>342876915
Who cares

Nintendont is done for anyways.
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>>342882109
>Well if you've played sticker star, you have played this game.

That isn't how that works you imbicile.
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>>342876915
At least Alpha Dream knows what they're doing. They even said they only stuck with all of the Mushroom Kingdom stuff in Paper Jam to prevent everything from getting muddled. I can't wait to see what they do next.
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I'm replaying ttyd for the first time in 10+ years

why does nintendo not make good games anymore
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>>342880084
Mowz isn't very good, one of her abilities is wasted on a really goddamn expensive heal.
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>>342882382
We better get this next.
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Reminder that one guy comes into these threads every time to shitpost. Just ignore him
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>>342882374
Based on E3 footage the games are pretty much the same shit but with a slightly different story.
So why even care?
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>>342877402
other than fan claims
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>>342876915
But Mario and Luigi has no tactics at all to it; it's just about spamming your most powerful attacks and dodging those of the enemy. Paper Mario's badge system and low numbers means there's actually some level of depth to the combat besides "lel action commands XD"

Not saying that PM games so far have required you to use that depth, but at least there's been potential for depth. M&L? Not at all.
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>>342882374
until we see any evidence to the contrary I am going to stand with that anons oppinion
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>>342881367
This honestly.
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If you wanna play a shit game, just play Paper Mario Sticker Splash
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>>342882659
This would be GOAT. I hope Alpha Dream brings back the 2D sprites again.
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>>342876915
Mario and Luigi is getting stale
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it's me again, anti-PretendoAnon.

i wonder if Cody/Preautist came back after closing down his Miiverse/Twitter accounts after getting discovered as an underage brat.

i've made an quick 75% complete infograph based on his shitposting.
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>>342882659
>4

Wow that image is outdated.
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>>342881367
What makes it clear that she's passionate besides the fact that she gives you a boner?
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>>342882374

look out everybody we've got a delusional drone on our hands
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>>342878175
I want her to break down into tears when she realizes she's a fucking awful "dev"

I want her to be left with nothing
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My brother's dad works at Nintendo and he gace me a copy and I'm playing it on my hacked New 3DS and it's way more funner than you guys are saying it will be.
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>>342879053
WL devs like Kiyotake did move to Metroid afterwards...
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>>342883035
The sprites are still 2D though, except for the Dreamy Luigi or Papercraft battles Mario and Luigi are always 2D.
http://www.spriters-resource.com/fullview/74082/

They're REALLY fucking good sprites too
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>>342882978

I bet you thought PiT would be just as good as SSS without then? A game can be like a game you like and end up bad, a game can be like a game you don't like and be great.
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>>342883252
>Obligatory
Reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VimjNnBpySk
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>>342882743
>>342883185
literally who?
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>>342883185
i think he's gone indefinitely.

>i've made an quick 75% complete infograph based on his shitposting.
post it please
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>>342883208
It was made before Dream Team ya dingus.
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>>342883393
While PiT was weak, it was still a good game, not a disaster like Sticker Splash was. It didn't completely change the genre of the series and toss it to the curb.
Unless Color Splash is suddenly REALLY good (which judging by the footage won't be), then I will not change my mind.
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>>342883449
Not them
Some guy who appeared in almost every Paper Mario thread to shill Sticker Star and Color Splash.
He basically calls people who disagree with him Pretendos.
In Paper Mario threads he would always post an image of Sticker Star's final boss to let his presence be known.

>>342780237
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>>342883589
Which is why I said it's outdated.

Are you retarded?
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>>342876915
>not colour splash

dropped
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>>342883778
Sorry anon. I'm half-drunk and I read your post as "Wow that image is retarded".
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>>342883421
>Bowser's Kingdom
My nigga
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>>342883449
>>342883731
pic related

>>342883584
>post it please
as (You) wish

there's a ton of more shit i have to add like the Image MD5+Filenames screencaps of his shitposting. i left in a pastebin so when the fireden archive is back up you can see it all. (you can find the pastebin link in the pic)
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>>342883893
>hey look at me, I'm super special cause I can put an extra letter in a word that doesn't need it, nor does it make any sense
You can't even say your spelling is the "correct" spelling because they both originated around the same time along with a ton of other spelling variations that did not take root.
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>>342883209
In an interview about Zip Lash it's pointed out how she had to go all over Japan by herself to get licensing deals done for the different snacks in the game. She's pretty dedicated to whatever projects she works on.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/interview/40643/chibi-robo-zip-lash-interview-with-risa-tabata-and-kensuke-tanabe

>Tanabe: So one challenge was to get many companies to agree to our idea to present these snacks in game. So for the US version, Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe were the two groups in charge of handling that stuff here, but in Japan she was the sole contributor to this, going around the entire country and over...
>speaking with 30 different companies or more than that. I'm not sure if you're aware, but around this time in Japan it's super hot and humid, and so she wearing her business attire, walking around the whole country, travelling to present this idea to all these people. I myself was sitting in the office, just chilling, thinking ‘She's going through such a hard labor.’ *laughs*
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>>342883893
Here's your (u).
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>>342884573
thanks anon
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>>342884573
>he use to have
Not to be rude but I hope you proof read it
Otherwise fine job
I recommend to also pointing out how he began posting his image of Sticker Star Bowser on the same day he beat the game
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>>342881305

guy that ALWAYS used the sticker king final boss bowser in his posts

>>342881210

he got exposed? fucking when?
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>>342885164
Yesterday and technically the day before that
Read this thread Anon
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>>342881367
>>342882980
>>342884810
literal cuck
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>>342885138
>I recommend to also pointing out how he began posting his image of Sticker Star Bowser on the same day he beat the game
i will

also have a spare cap of the first image of his silly Final Bowser image, i'll take a look on it.
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>>342884810
>Dedicated to different projects
>but not dedicated enough to make the games good

Also that story sounds fake
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>>342884573
Holy shit, you're more retarded than he is.
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I have no problem with that

Just give it to me in fucking console

You made 2 M&L's for 3DS Alpha dream

Make the next game for NX

Your already making a psuedo 3D world with sprites, just go the whole way and do 3D Models

Or keep the 2D style but make it high quality for a console

Fucking DO IT
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>>342881969

>Have you played it?

oh boy with this argument. you don't need to have experienced something to make a judgement call. trailer looks like shit? well then it might be shit. or it might not it depends on you.

Color Splash footage looks exactly like Sticker Star therefore I've made my decision not to support it.

>BUT ANON YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE LIKE BASED ON A TRAILER THERE COULD BE MORE TO IT!

Do you have evidence to support otherwise? If not kindly fuck off and let people have their opinions instead of imposing yours just because they don't agree with you like a baby. You're worse than the remain bitchfitters.
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The last good Mario RPG was released on the Super Nintendo.
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>>342885553
you have to be 18+ and up to post on this site, preautist.
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>>342883393

>it has babies

I already knew PiT wasn't going to be as good as Superstar Saga. AND GUESS WHAT? Hindsight says my assertion was correct.
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>>342879346
Is this the pretendo guy's new picture?
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>>342884573
Anon I want to tell to only use that image when necessary and when it's called for.
I don't want to see it in every Paper Mario and Metroid thread
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>>342884810

all that effort for FUCKING PRODUCT PLACEMENT but none on making the game good. good job, congrats, you did it, five stars, a plus for effort.
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>>342885740
what didn't you like about Paper Mario or M&L?
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>>342885521
>Also that story sounds fake

>>342885691
>I've made my decision not to support it based on a trailer

Spot the retards.
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>>342885751
>had the most hyped Kirby boss since Magalor Soul and Dark Mind
>literally Andross 64 bossfight on steroids and twisting turns
>"I miss Star Fox Zero already"
this guy's fucking dense
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>>342886030
Now Anon I really don't want this to end up as a huge witch hunt for him in these threads
He's probably playing #FE or something
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>>342882863
Metroid.
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>>342886152
Anyone with a brain can see that the footage shown is literally sticker star 2.
While not the trailer itself, the E3 footage showed battles, bosses, "NPCs" and "Puzzles". Which was literally the same as sticker stars but with cards and paint now.
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>>342886241
now give a source
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>>342886152
>someone thinks a story could be fake
>somehow this makes him retarded

Aren't you supposed to banned Preautist?
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>>342886152

>MAN THIS FEDERARION FORCE SURE LOOKS LIKE CRAP! BETTER BUY IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THOUGH.

Thirsty Nintendrone spotted.
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>>342886152
Oh yes i'm sure she traveled around the country to do something a day's worth of phone calls would have solved. and yes you can make a decision based on a trailer because a trailer's point is to give you an idea of what the game is like, retard
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>>342886071
i'll be sure to not over do it and it will have the same filename included to be sure it's me posting. (right after i post my arrival image >>342883185)

unless it's someone else, don't blame me for it.
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>>342884810
>I myself was sitting in the office, just chilling, thinking ‘She's going through such a hard labor.’ *laughs*

Tanabe sounds like a dick.
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>>342885138
>I always win
>proceeds to nuke all his accounts and start trying to post anonymously on here
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>>342886527
Understood I really don't want these threads to go off topic
Godspeed Anon and take care
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>>342876915
God, Miyamoto is so fucking stupid sometimes. People need to stop kissing his ass and caving to his retarded ass suggestions as an honorary Nintendo producer on everything.

>People don't play Paper Mario for story
Sticker Star has no story
>Mario and Luigi is the RPG
Color Splash has no story and no RPG. At least Super Paper Mario was funny and had tons of dialogue even if it was more of a platformer.
>Zelda shouldn't have a story and sequels shouldn't be connected
Thank God Aonuma started just ignoring him.
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>>342886713
aye
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>>342876915

Might as well tell Spike Chunsoft to fuck off with Mystery Dungeon since we got a pokemon rpg already.
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>>342886972

he right about one thing though. characters make or break a paper mario NOT story. what do you remember more, bobbery's backstory or the actual plot of ttyd?
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>>342885503

Nintendo isn't going to ignore the negativity Color Splash is getting

We are either getting old formula back or a new concept with proper RPG mechanics
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>>342886152
Okay
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>>342887320
not that anon, but I remember both
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>People are still blaming Miyamoto when it wasn't even him who said that quote

Jesus fucking Christ this false flagging is funny
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>>342887386
I doubt they even care, and even if they do, they will most likely cancel the series than returning it to what fans want.
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>>342879515
Not very lately, Paper Jam bombed hard.
But that's probably because Paper Mario itself is toxic now and drove away people.
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>>342887386

you don't understand how nintendo works.

if a franchise doesn't sell they don't find out why it didn't sell as good they just kill it off and move on to the next gimmick flavor and continue the same mistakes. thank fuck anouma has a head on his shoulders.
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>>342877043
Dragon quest
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>>342887848

WHY AREN'T YOU SUPPORTING VII AND VIII REPORTS ANON? Though in unfairness I've given up hope on the Dragon Quest Monster franchise over here anyway.
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>>342878118
those games have different formulas that set them apart
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>>342881367
Well goody gumdrops for her. Passion doesn't mean jack shit if it flies directly in the face of what your consumer is demanding from you.
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>>342884573
Holy shit, all this cancer

>/v/: I ALWAYS win
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>>342884573
Look I hate that faggot but you're more autistic than him.
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>>342884573
Someone spent a lot of fucking time on this image and that's weird
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>>342887706

Nah, they are too stubborn to end a series

Especially when they know that they fucked up themselves
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>>342883421
that series was funny as shit
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>>342887735

Paper Jam is still a good game though

The series isn't going to suddenly stop because of a bump like you fucks assume

If it had Partners in time would've been that game
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>>342887735

>Bombed hard

>Nicks kids choice awards

>BUT MUH BAD REVIEWS CALLING IT STALE

The series has been selling the same since SSS
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>>342887706
>>342887758

You guys seem to have a mentality that this is something that happens

It's about Nintendo coming up with ideas

The only reason we haven't gotten F-Zero is not because it was dead

It was because Miyamoto couldn't think of a good idea that isn't rehashing because it's not Mario
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>>342889414
BiS sold twice as much as normal because you play as Bowser.
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>>342889563
Not them, and while I somewhat agree with you, it's not always the case. That and this.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/23/burnout-dev-criterion-nearly-made-a-wii-u-f-zero-game
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>>342879515

Depends on how you look at it

Gameplay and writing wise yes

People will suddenly pretend that the series is dead because Paper Jam was very specific with it's design on purpose
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>>342889414
>The series has been selling the same since SSS
Couldn't be farther from the truth, check it out, there are official numbers.
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>>342887735
nah, it's way better than Snore Team

>>342889563
no, right after GX and the anime spinoff, he thought people lost interest in F-Zero.

remember that Maximum Velocity was the last F-Zero game that ever sold shit (over a million) until GX was released with a boadload of adverts and a arcade tie-in.
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>>342889563
I just want an HD remake of F Zero GX, but with all F Zero X's courses remade. Is that too much to ask?
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>>342889563

in other words

unless they can shoehorn a gimmick, it's not worth bringing back? this is why Star Fox Zero was such a clusterfuck. Miyamoto was more concerned about the fucking gyro controls than the game itself.
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>>342889839
if Criterion wasn't eaten up by EA, they would've turn F-Zero into trash like what they did to Need for Speed.
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>>342889258
I just said that sold poorly you autist.
Less than half of Dream Team in Japan.
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>>342889563
Why do people act like rehashing a game after 10 years is bad?

I mean, if we were getting the same game every 2-3 years then rehashing is bad. We haven't seen an F-Zero in two, soon to be three hardware generations, though. If you made an F-Zero GX rehash now with the exact same physics and characters and a new set of courses (or even not that, you could definitely just do GX HD) it would be exactly what F-Zero fans want.

But if you tried forcing motion controls or some other bullshit that gets in the way of enjoying the game you'd just piss off F-Zero fans.
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>>342889975
It's not, but I never mentioned it quality, it bombed commercialy.
What's with the lack of reading comprehension in this thread?
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>>342890085
star fox zero was bad because it was an exact rehash of 64 except this time you aren't a 5 year old playing it for the first time
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I can't believe how fucking bad Sticker Star was.

I actually tried to replay it and I got all those fucking stupid ass toads in the beginning of the game, only to drop it after my first battle because they are fucking POINTLESS. POINTLESS. FUCKING. POINTLESS.

The game then turns into a fucking shitty platformer of the highest abomination degree ever known and unknown in this universe. I immediately deleted it.

I am absolutely disfuckingusted about the people who actually enjoyed Sticker Star and can't wait for Shit Splash. They are in this thread. Can you believe that? I went and started up a new game of TTYD and my disease "Stickeritis" was fucking cured in that nanosecond that stupid Koopa got the fucking mail. I fucking hate Nintendo. And I hate Nintendrones. Colored Dicks is going to be fucking garbage. I don't care what that bitch says about the game, it looks like shit. I'd honestly give her a slide for the graphics but that's like saying donkey shit looks good if it was on PC Ultra settings. It's still shit.

Color Splash looks fucking stupid as fuck. OH YOU GET A COLORFUL HAMMER THAT LEVELS UP SO YOU CAN SPREAD MORE SHITSTAINS. Whoop de fucking fuck. Fuck that fucking shit. Fuck Nintendo. Burn in Hell.
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>>342891226

except the exact rehash 64 3D was still good. Zero was trash.
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>>342891369
t. Color fag
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>>342891392
they're both shit because 64 is literally babies first rail shooter and zero is 64 with tank sections that aren't fucking garbage
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>>342891226
Star Fox Zero literally started as a task given from Iwata to Miyamoto of "creating games to justify the functionalities of the gamepad".
Of fucking course it turned out a piece of shit.
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>>342891528
You can't say that about my childhood!
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>>342891660
sin x punishment also used motion controls and it was a good game but you star fox babies don't know anything about rail shooters.
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>>342891226
64 is fine as it is, especially when 643D still got praise

zero is rotten copy of 64, like fucking up Zoness, every boss is an all-range fight, Andross is bland finale, and removing memorable areas like Area 6 and Macbeth.
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>>342891528
>64 is literally babies first rail shooter
hello S&P shitter.
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>>342891882
hello star fox baby
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>>342891660

this is the fate of all mainline nintendo games for the last decade. they always have to infuse the shitty gimmicks to "show off" the potential of the system theyre on
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really does suck to be a paper mario fan.

if you have anything besides a wii though, you should get stick of truth. closer to the first 2 games than any of these other sequels have been.
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>>342892081
Planet Robobot, Tropical Freeze, Mario 3D World, Pokemon X/Y, etc. Not every game uses something.
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>>342891882

not the same anon but Sin and Punishment put Star Fox 64 to shame. Sucks Star Successor sold like shit.
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>>342892243

by mainline i meant zelda and mario
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>>342892243

>Planet Robobot, Tropical Freeze, Mario 3D World

all direct sequels

>X/Y

ha ha it's funny because pokemon has been the same game since 1996
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>>342891660
Thank god our lord and saviour Aonuma told gamepad apologists to fuck off.
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>>342892243
Pokémon XY are trash for other reasons, you really shouldn't use it as defense of anything, and Pokémon isn't made by Nintendo anyway.
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>>342892462
Well better then them featuring some gimmick you rather not have right? More of the same or going for the extreme shake up? Take your pick.

>>342892416
A Link Between Worlds. NSMBU. No gimmicks.
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>paper mario threads are now circlejerking pretendoautist instead of just ignoring him and i dunno, discussing paper mario

sasuga paperfags

may as well call it pretendoautist general
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>>342892128
I just started it, all the shit constantly on screen telling you where to go and what to do is fucking annoying.
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>>342892645
>NSMBU
>No gimmicks

While it wasn't intrusive, it had that fifth player shit where you could create blocks with the Gamepad.
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>>342891772
Star Fox (64) and S&P are different kind of railshooters and neither the same. More fans of Star Fox prefer playing in the traditional way than playing in some other awkward way like Command's godawful touch screens.

unless you're some fag crying Star Fox isn't being a copy of your favorite railshooters, like how original Hexen isn't being another copy of DooM like Heretic or Bayonetta not being DMC4.
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>>342892645

>A Link Between Worlds

painting wall mode was pushed hard. it's even on the cover art.
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>>342876915
I would if the Mario & Luigi series had an original debut entry on the fucking Wii U.

I don't blame them for changing the Paper Mario 3DS RPG into Sticker Star since Alphadream already marked their territory on handhelds, but come on!
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>>342892835
But it's optional and not forced on.

>>342892689
Agreed.

Color Splash looks very disappointing for them to continue in Sticker Stars direction. I take anything more like PM64, TTYD, or SPM.

>>342893015
That's not a gimmick that uses the hardware though but I can see what you mean.
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>>342892689
Dude people just stopped talking about him
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>>342892689

>discussing current paper mario

okay let's discuss the great story and characters of Sticker Star and the upcoming Colour Splash.
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>>342892283
>not the same anon but Sin and Punishment put Star Fox 64 to shame
arguably
>Sucks Star Successor sold like shit'
cause instead of buying it, you Treasureniggers keep crying why didn't they plaster S&P into Star Fox.

not any better than fags crying why Zelda isn't Darksiders.
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>>342883323
Would have been better with outlines 2bh f4m
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>>342893385

>cause instead of buying it

hey fuck you bucko I did my part.

>NOT wanting Treasure made SF games

instead we got the LE MAKE ALL THE GAMES meme team Platinum to do it. Though to be fair Platinum is like the least of Zero's problems.
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>>342893637
I like it.
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>>342893385

>not any better than fags crying why Zelda isn't Darksiders.

well now Zelda is Witcher Lite Edition so whatever.
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It's sad how everyone's just bitching because they didn't get the games they wanted.

They could just remake TTYD, Super Metroid and F-Zero in HD and you fools would hail it as the greatest thing. You're no better than the people who only bought the New Super Mario Bros. games because they looked and played "like the old games."
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>>342894056
Let's make installments that don't have what the fans liked in the first place
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>>342894056

>It's sad how everyone's just bitching because they didn't get the games they wanted.

ENTITLEMENT ALERT!
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>>342884573
>the Cave Story
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>>342894056

who the fuck asked for Federation Force? At least Prime can (arguably) be seen as a progression of the series. Pinball was a diversion between titles and other m regardless of it's quality is a mainline installment. How did we go from all that to a shitty monster hunter clone?
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>>342876915
But what happens when the Miyamocalypse comes/already came for Mario and Luigi?

Is this the end of the Mario RPG?
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>>342893894
>hey fuck you bucko I did my part.
not many did so.
>NOT wanting Treasure made SF games
i'm okay with Treasure having a touch on Star Fox and PG having full control on the development of SFZ2 w/out Miyamoto's bullshit (if there ever gonna be one), but if it's gonna be full of retards with their HURR S&P >>>> SF64/KI:U >>>>>> ASSAULT GET REKT STAR FAUX BABBIES XDD might as well just call off the interest on that.

too many DMC/NGB/Souls/TLoU fanboys in GoW threads gnawing at each other over what path GoW turn to.
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>>342894056
>They could just remake TTYD, Super Metroid and F-Zero in HD and you fools would hail it as the greatest thing

ayy lmao
HD remakes are lazy as fuck and I haven't bought a single one of them.
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>>342894056
>You're no better than the people who only bought the New Super Mario Bros. games because they looked and played "like the old games."
I played the first game and decided "BAH BAH" wasn't for me.

It took some convincing for me to even get 3D world/land.
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>>342894615

yeah i call bullshit
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>>342894056
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>>342894925
Call it all you want. HD "remakes" are part of the cancer killing Nintendo along with their continuous downhill slide of quality.
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>>342894230
>>342894485

I'm just saying, Nintendo has always changed shit up. Fans back then didn't like the changes with WW's art style or Sunshine's gameplay but others did. Now, those other fans are experiencing changes to their series and are reacting the same.
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>>342894485
not saying FF isn't going to be extremely shit but i'll explain

FF was a 2005 concept Tanabe wanted to produce on the DSi but held due to limitations and want to set it on a better hardware (i.e. N3DS's c-analog, etc.)

most people presume Tanabe wanted to implement Miis into FF but the chibi is there because "muh better visuals for the DS gameplay", he knows people won't like the SD-style nor it'll fit for the know Metroid Prime style. (TL;DR not a permanent style like Wind Waker).

the whole story of FF remains as something actually important to something coming in future numbered Metroid Prime titles (something about Sylux hatred for the GF and Samus) and the Blast Ball aspect being a staple optional tutorial for newcomers of the Metroid Prime sub-series. also, playable feds.

though, i have to admit, ton of fans in 2011 fell in love with the idea of a Metroid Prime spinoff were you can play as the feds or space pirates, like Halo ODST were you play as one of the spartan troops.
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>>342889713
>BiS
>Bowser's in Story
BIS*
It's "Bowser's Inside Story"
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>>342882659
Too bad wario games have been dead for a long time. He's le fart man now
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>>342884698
But it makes perfect sense. You don't write your as yor so why do the same for colour?
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sss 1.9m
pit 1.4m
bis 4.1m
dt 2m
pj ?
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>>342896963
You don't pronounce your as "yor" do you? It's more like "yoor". Do you pronounce color as "coloor"? Just curious
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Defend Nintendo all you people want. Fact is people care less and less about Nintendo. Yes, a bunch of game starved people who only own wii u's ran to try a demo for Zelda. A game with mechanics in many games before it. Their products sell less and less because they no longer offer anything most pople want.

So yes, happily nod and consume the shit they give you instead of demanding proper care and effort in franchises. Eventually all their fans will get tired of it and move on because the franchises they've been waiting for are long since dead.

Utterly tired of people blindly defending Nintendos every fucking retarded move.
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>>342895845
>not permanent
If FF sells well by some miracle, chibi is here to stay. When Nintendo knows they can half ass something and get drones to eat it up, they will in a heartbeat.
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>>342897282
I do agree that Nintendo makes a lot of questionable decisions as of late, but not every single decision they make as of late is a bad one. For this game though, it is, but not for every franchise they own and have and in general.
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>>342897594
if Other M flopped, so will FF. and also the fact people praising #FE yet it's selling shit than all the recent Atlus/FE games that's out. so any drone thinking they're leading a overwhelming army of shiteaters need to know their place.

fool us once, not getting fooled again.
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>>342876915
FINE OK
THEN RELEASE A MARIO AND LUIGI ON THE WIIU AND I'LL BUY IT
YOU FUCKS

JUST GIVE ME A COMFY HD MARIO RPG THAT I CAN PLAY COMFY IN BED ON THE WIIU GAMEPAD
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>>342897594
>implying a miracle will even help FF survive 3DS piracy like Kirby: Planet Robobot did.
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>>342885679
Fucking this.
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I only played Paper Mario 64 and it never really got my interest.

I can understand from a design standpoint why Nintendo wants Mario & Luigi to be the main RPG and Paper Mario to be the quirky arts and crafts Mario adventure game.

That said, I can understand why fans of the first two games would probably be pissed. The last 3 games look downright weird and gimmicky.
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You could probably eliminate half the ire surrounding neo-Paper Mario just by spicing up the NPCs a little. But no, everything has to be the same nondescript Toad.

>"but you can stirr terr who dey are by dere diarogue!!!"

It's still fucking lazy and makes the world look even more washed out, lifeless, and bland. Unless that's what they're going for, which it probably is.
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>>342898981
>>"but you can stirr terr who dey are by dere diarogue!!!"

There's like 3 unique Toads in Sticker Star since the level system means you'll never talk to the same Toad besides the Museum guy for more than a couple minutes. Plus it's not like every freak in Toad Town didn't have a unique personality (The kid who couldn't decide on his future, the three girls who loved travelling)

SS director a shit.
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>>342898981
>Toadettes
>A non-enemy Squeek
>A non-enemy Koopa
>Sandnigger Toad
>Old Toad
>A non-enemy Bumpty
>Only 3 red toads

Even this is better than what we're getting
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Remember when characters could have Families?
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>>342899527
>Taro Kudo a shit

Shut your whore mouth.
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>>342900081
He obviously left his spine back at Konami because Miyamoto and Tanabe pistol whipped him good.
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>>342899547
It looks like they only changed the text. If either of those scenes looks Toad-heavy to you, you're just complaining about the original Paper Mario.
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>>342900486
I'm saying it looks BETTER
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>>342897282
>Products sell less and less

Still more exclusives games sold than all current gen consoles
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>>342899547
To be fair Sticker Star's dialogue is slightly more padded than "Peach is kidnapped oh no" even if the majority of it is Paper Jokes.

But I could imagine Nintendo having dialogue that retarded one day.
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>>342884573
Jesus fuck, this escalated fast. One day he's just being obnoxious with his Bowser image now there's all this shit & him shitting other Nintendo threads.
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>>342879871
Wtf
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>>342887706
>they will most likely cancel the series than returning it to what fans want.
if PM64 romhacking grows and we get another decent Paper Mario fangame from MFGG, i'm rather fine Nintendo not shitting up the sub-series anymore other than to fridge it.
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>>342902214
he's shitposting
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>>342902649
>>342902214

Not really due to the fact that DKC doesn't hold the Mario name, Wario Land doesn't hold the Mario name, and Kirby doesn't hold the Mario name.

Paper Mario and M&L RPG are both apart of the Mario franchise.

Since that anon thinks that he's smart by saying that "Oh since we have mario we don't need DKC, Wario Land and Kirby" is a fair comparison to them not wanting 2 Mario RPG franchises is, plain and simple, pretty fucking retarded.
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>>342883393
Anon, I understand your point of view but we had nearly an hour of casual gameplay. While some things will definitely be better (the paint hammer looks fun & you at least get exp for it) it's literally Sticker Star 2. It rehashes the boss gimmicks, the card system is literally just stickers again, stickerization is practically back & being the same and Toads are primarily the only NPC you'll see, Tabata even said it'd be the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOU1mZnDpbM
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>>342888889
>>342885553
you're not even trying, jesus.

go samefag another reply about how apologetic you are to preautist over a large infograph you're overwhelmed about.
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Morton has been written pretty damn poorly Intelligent Systems. AlphaDream wrote much better with him. Hope the rest aren't lie that.
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>>342902512
There's a guy working on a modding tool for 64.
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>>342889102
took me 2 hours and also thanks to all the shit i had to gather quick before he hides everything.

this isn't the only infograph i've did, i've made another one detailing if Other M actually sold shit as Nintendo expected to sell and currently doing another idiot shitposter infograph. (and this one from the hellhole that is starmen.net )
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>>342904423
>and this one from the hellhole that is starmen.net
I thought they were nice people?
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Would you?
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>>342906470
I never understood why would they make flurrie.
There weren't other creatures in the mario universe that could blow up air? Did they need to blow those papers for those puzzles and not replace them with something else?
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So... how 'bout them fangame ideas?
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>>342907287
I am thinking about the party. I wanted to add a bomb boo instead of a bob-omb, but I have no idea which hat/accessory to give to it to make it unique
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>>342907287
What the hell could a Dino Torch do to help? Light some torches similar to Bowser in SPM? Shoot the ground & make you fly slightly upward to go across gaps?
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>>342907524
A turban
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>>342905614
fuck no, not anymore.

make a thread about it here, you're get a ton of answers about starmen.net here.
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>>342907547
That was an enemy sheet.
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>>342907742
Ah, well they would be pretty cool to fight with how they're flame-based. I could see Dino Rhino's being fought a few chapters later similar to how the Bulky Bob-ombs were. I do wonder if they have potential as a partner now though.
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>>342907287
Post some interesting partner ideas and their skills, /v/
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>>342908316
I'd fuck that goomba
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>>342907989
If I remember correctly, in the story I got that sheet from, they might have been fought in one of the three bonus dungeons. One of which was the pit of 100 trials. Speaking of the Pit, in this one, some special enemies were fought. Including some familiar foes, despite the fact that they shouldn't exist.
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>>342877370
>fans say in club nintendo survey the story isn't interesting
>the devs listen to feedback and remove the story
>fans cry because they removed the story and claim the devs aren't listening to fans
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>>342908667
You forgot to read that the survey was in japan when the system wasn't that much used in the US yet.
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>>342908729
Japan and Europe. That's still a large chunk of fans, not to mention that less than 1% said it was interesting.
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>>342908316
>Rambo Blooper
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>>342908549
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Five Fun Guys Burgers And Fries. Make it happen.
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>>342909023
go away
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>>342894018
These sprites look great. One of the main reasons I liked the last 2 M&L games so much.
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I found it interesting that there's a snifit with a text box

Atleast we can finally talk to people that arent Toads
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>>342908994
>Shadow Queen
>Even though she was destroyed in TTYD

How the fuck would this work
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>>342909023
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>>342903996
I hate to say it but you know that they're all just going to be really generic characters. It's a shame considering they were actually pretty cool in Paper Jam.
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>>342909443
>That Fire Bro who just falls into the lava

Brutal
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>>342894018
>>342909368

>tfw Mario and Luigi head to console

>The already great sprites turn out with even higher quality

yes Please
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>>342909531
magic. it's even said it's a bad clone, due to it being weaker.
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>>342909443

I like that the dragon from Captain Toad is there

This implies that there's hopefully more better represenation than simply the same SMb3 mario enemies, 3D World and Captain toad introduced a lot of new enemies, use them

Also i like that the World 2 is both a desert and a volcano, helps make the world less generic
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>>342909754
It looks like the world map is a little more open in general than Sticker Star's this time around, that's a plus.
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I miss them already!
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Will he appear?
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>>342894018

It's funny

at first Dream Team looked ugly as fuck to me back when they first revealed it

But then actually playing it and seeing all the great spirte work amazed me

paper Jam did it even better
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Playing PJ right now.

Is it just me, or is Paper Mario OP as fuck. Also where the fuck is Toadsworth? Did the great OC purge get him too?
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>>342909893

>Little more open in general

It is

However it looks like you need the boss color paint to progress some areas
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>>342910406
Someone has a grudge against Toadsworth at Nintendo. He has as much a right to exist as Jr but he still gets the shaft.
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>That one scene in PJ where the generic green toad talks too much and is super nervous

Why did they not use toadsworth for that? Where the fuck was he?
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>>342910406

Paper Mario is OP because the paper characters in general are OP

They are ironically, the most dangerous types in the game despite being more fragile

and bosses are more buffed and harder this time, so Paper Mario is going to need to be a truck, just don't get hit, that's his gimmick, keep him alive or your fucked

Toadsworth has been missing for a while, but PJ wants to focus more on Toadette than Toadsworth
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>if you want to buy a good game, just buy something else
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